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2014-03-29 07:28:55 PM

Silent But Deadly: WI241TH: SilentStrider: Used to be Sixty Minutes was like that.
Shame TDS is the only place that happens now.

Aasif Mandvi especially. He has a remarkable talent for getting people to say incredibly stupid things on camera.

I don't watch that often, but one of the last interviews I saw, Aasif had the interviewee speechless for a long 5 seconds after one of his questions.  You could almost see the gerbil wheel turning in his head before he oddly enough agreed half-heartedly.  Hilarious.


Yes, that was the revelation that Knoxville, TN has third world health care. OMG that was incredible.
 
2014-03-29 07:28:56 PM

Mrs.Sharpier: Has she been waterboarded before?


It's just like bukkake, except with water and protection. So yeah, she's probably been "waterboarded".
 
2014-03-29 07:32:20 PM
I am continuously astounded that such dumb people make so much money. What the fark is going on with the human race.
 
2014-03-29 07:34:43 PM

Ambivalence: Gyrfalcon: WI241TH: SilentStrider: Used to be Sixty Minutes was like that.
Shame TDS is the only place that happens now.

Aasif Mandvi especially. He has a remarkable talent for getting people to say incredibly stupid things on camera.

He is really good. I'm surprised he's not been snapped up by a real news agency. Oh wait, there aren't any.

The Daily Show has more integrity than any news show on TV.


While this may be, they are still doing it primarily for the lulz.
 
2014-03-29 07:34:54 PM

vodka: I am continuously astounded that such dumb people make so much money. What the fark is going on with the human race.


I laughed out loud at this.  My sad, cynical laugh.
 
2014-03-29 07:39:20 PM
Just watched the interview, she opened badly by going on the defensive and drawing a line against Environmentalists.

Going the other way there's a clip where three news pieces are referenced, one blowout at surface, one contamination story and one plant fire.  only one is relevant to a fracking piece. Minus 1 for TDS,
 
2014-03-29 07:46:04 PM

Ambivalence: Cyclometh: Ambivalence: FlashHarry: why do these people even agree to go on?

For the same reason people gamble at casinos, they think they can beat the house.

You've been practicing that speech, haven't you?

Um....no.  But it sounded good. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.


FTFY.
 
2014-03-29 07:52:19 PM

Representative of the unwashed masses: Just watched the interview, she opened badly by going on the defensive and drawing a line against Environmentalists.

Going the other way there's a clip where three news pieces are referenced, one blowout at surface, one contamination story and one plant fire.  only one is relevant to a fracking piece. Minus 1 for TDS,


Those clips were to counter the shill's assertion that oil companies couldn't be safer and don't need any more regulation, not that fracking itself was safe.
 
2014-03-29 07:53:14 PM
poot_rootbeer:

Professional rhetoricists in PR and politics should be embarrassed whenever they don't argue circles around the comedians of The Daily Show. You have one job..

I used to date a girl who was working on a professional journalism degree at a good university. It says a lot that the rhetoric class she had to take as part of her program was cancelled several times because no one else signed up for it.

WTF? That should be the *FIRST* thing they teach journalists! Heck, you could even go back and make it a "founding fathers" thing... What exactly was one of the core topics of a good education for those guys other than Latin?

If you're not trained in rhetoric, you're basically going to get blown around by those who are. You're bringing a nerf lightsaber to a gun fight. This certainly explains a lot of modern voters.
 
2014-03-29 08:07:04 PM

Don't Troll Me Bro!: unyon: Oh, and you know what else feels like 3 hours of water boarding?  About 5 minutes of actual water boarding.

My googles are weak, so I couldn't find the video.  A guy voluntarily got waterboarded, just to see how bad it was.  He lasted (I think) 11 seconds.  He was holding onto a small metal pipe and had to just drop it to make them stop.  Afterwards they were interviewing him about it, and the guy that actually did the waterboarding, who also administers it to some of our elite forces as training, said that was longer than most special forces people make it their first time.  The guy that had been waterboarded replied that he was trying to let go of the pipe after about 1 second, but was so overcome with sheer terror and panic that he couldn't get himself to let go; he just completely froze up and his hand tightened up around it.

And no, torture sympathizers, it isn't "simulated drowning."  It is actual, slow drowning, at least according to the medical doctor and the guy that uses it to train elite military units.  You begin inhaling water, which gets into your lungs, decreases surface area of lung tissue that can absorb oxygen out of the air you breath, and it will kill you if it isn't stopped.


Probably when Christopher Hitchens was waterboarded for Vanity Fair. Skip to 3:00 minutes on the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LPubUCJv58
 
2014-03-29 08:08:56 PM

Ambivalence: Mike_LowELL: Is there any reason that The Daily Show reporters are not in jail?  They will lie and they will say anything to make people look bad, so long as it supports their position.  The fracking industry simply wants to make people happy, and they want to give American families fuel at a price which makes those people happy, rather than what makes the most profit.  Thank you, fracking companies, for being America's first line of defense.

I know what you mean! I actually kind of wish they could frack people to get natural gas.  If a little is good, more must be better!


So, a 10,000 psi enema?

i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-29 08:15:42 PM
"Oil and gas companies are quite good at self-regulating or self-policing,"

Bullshiat.

"I figured it might as well be me because I know that I know my topic."
 Since I was not aware of any fracking accidents,


Apparently you don't know your topic as well as you think you do.

sycraft: They also do reshoots of the interviewer asking questions in a more outrageous manner to inter-cut with your answers.


No they don't.
 
2014-03-29 08:25:51 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't think I'll ever understand how people like this sleep at night. They know precisely what are the end-results of their lobbying and sycophantic pandering. You have to be a sociopath to do what they do. I guess it's better than first-degree murder, but not by much.


The checks clear, and they don't care about other people. As a Texan I've spent lots of time speaking with Conservatives, so please believe me when I tell you this. They. Do not. Give a shiat. About other people. They just don't. They barely care about their own families as people rather than possessions(this is why red states have super-high domestic abuse stats), why would they give a damn about strangers? As to the world, half of them want the world to end because they think that will make their magic Aryan Dionysus clone come back, and the other half got theirs, so the devil can take the rest.
 
2014-03-29 08:29:00 PM

Mrtraveler01: "I knew I was not the first person to whom they had reached out," she wrote. "Others had turned them down. If I said 'no,' they'd continue down some list until they found someone who'd say yes. I figured it might as well be me because I know that I know my topic."

Yep, she knows it so well she said this:

"Oil and gas companies are quite good at self-regulating or self-policing,"

Wish he flew her out to Bradford County, PA and have her say that to the faces of those that have been impacted by fracking.


Better yet, have her say that to the locals of the Niger Basin.
 
2014-03-29 08:31:11 PM

Old Man Winter: Back when he was an actor, that's how watching him felt like too.


Don't talk about The Last Airbender. No one wants to be reminded of that crappy crappy movie.

/He wasn't horrible in Spider-Man 2
 
2014-03-29 08:38:34 PM

dsmith42: Don't Troll Me Bro!: unyon: Oh, and you know what else feels like 3 hours of water boarding?  About 5 minutes of actual water boarding.

My googles are weak, so I couldn't find the video.  A guy voluntarily got waterboarded, just to see how bad it was.  He lasted (I think) 11 seconds.  He was holding onto a small metal pipe and had to just drop it to make them stop.  Afterwards they were interviewing him about it, and the guy that actually did the waterboarding, who also administers it to some of our elite forces as training, said that was longer than most special forces people make it their first time.  The guy that had been waterboarded replied that he was trying to let go of the pipe after about 1 second, but was so overcome with sheer terror and panic that he couldn't get himself to let go; he just completely froze up and his hand tightened up around it.

And no, torture sympathizers, it isn't "simulated drowning."  It is actual, slow drowning, at least according to the medical doctor and the guy that uses it to train elite military units.  You begin inhaling water, which gets into your lungs, decreases surface area of lung tissue that can absorb oxygen out of the air you breath, and it will kill you if it isn't stopped.

Probably when Christopher Hitchens was waterboarded for Vanity Fair. Skip to 3:00 minutes on the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LPubUCJv58


Related Mancow waterboarding
 
2014-03-29 08:51:23 PM

bdub77: I would like to personally waterboard her for three hours so she can see if it's an apt comparison.

Just for fun we'll make the sure the water used for the waterboarding is from a fracked well.


they should have offered her some water to drink. then after she took a drink tell her it was from a fracked well.
 
2014-03-29 08:55:12 PM
"Because the average person doesn't understand fracking," she added, "the environmentalists are able to use fear, uncertainty and doubt to plant ideas into people's minds."

I wasn't aware of the great job the oil and gas industry was doing to inform us. Have they told us yet what chemicals they use in their fracking operations?
 
2014-03-29 09:15:58 PM

Satanic_Hamster: "Oil and gas companies are quite good at self-regulating or self-policing,"

Bullshiat.

"I figured it might as well be me because I know that I know my topic."
 Since I was not aware of any fracking accidents,

Apparently you don't know your topic as well as you think you do.

sycraft: They also do reshoots of the interviewer asking questions in a more outrageous manner to inter-cut with your answers.

No they don't.


They actually go out of their way to NOT do that.
 
2014-03-29 09:22:36 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: Representative of the unwashed masses: Just watched the interview, she opened badly by going on the defensive and drawing a line against Environmentalists.

Going the other way there's a clip where three news pieces are referenced, one blowout at surface, one contamination story and one plant fire.  only one is relevant to a fracking piece. Minus 1 for TDS,

Those clips were to counter the shill's assertion that oil companies couldn't be safer and don't need any more regulation, not that fracking itself was safe.


with no context in that regard those are still virtually useless.  Of all things a mattress factory burned up this week.  car accidents happen.  You can't disprove safety records and statistics by only emphasizing a few notable incidents.
 
2014-03-29 09:23:10 PM
The only way to stop this is to make lobbying by commercial interests illegal.  Because it is immoral and subverts the whole idea of democracy.  Oh yeah - loosen the regulations on health and safety and environmental controls because, hey, some goddamn greedy stockholder is more important.

Corporations have shown time and time again not to be trusted with the planet.  Politicians are mostly corrupt just can't resist that sweet, sweet money from lobbyists. These assholes actually feel entitled.

The penalties for both lobbyists and the lobbied should be severe, and should also involve public humiliation before a lengthy prison term.
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2014-03-29 09:26:09 PM

Representative of the unwashed masses: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Representative of the unwashed masses: Just watched the interview, she opened badly by going on the defensive and drawing a line against Environmentalists.

Going the other way there's a clip where three news pieces are referenced, one blowout at surface, one contamination story and one plant fire.  only one is relevant to a fracking piece. Minus 1 for TDS,

Those clips were to counter the shill's assertion that oil companies couldn't be safer and don't need any more regulation, not that fracking itself was safe.

with no context in that regard those are still virtually useless.  Of all things a mattress factory burned up this week.  car accidents happen.  You can't disprove safety records and statistics by only emphasizing a few notable incidents.


Actually, yes you can. She said it was safe. It obviously isn't. How many mattress factories catch fire every year? Less than one? He had an info graphic with every fracking-related incident in PA alone and it was much more than "a few"
 
2014-03-29 09:40:05 PM

Representative of the unwashed masses: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Representative of the unwashed masses: Just watched the interview, she opened badly by going on the defensive and drawing a line against Environmentalists.

Going the other way there's a clip where three news pieces are referenced, one blowout at surface, one contamination story and one plant fire.  only one is relevant to a fracking piece. Minus 1 for TDS,

Those clips were to counter the shill's assertion that oil companies couldn't be safer and don't need any more regulation, not that fracking itself was safe.

with no context in that regard those are still virtually useless.  Of all things a mattress factory burned up this week.  car accidents happen.  You can't disprove safety records and statistics by only emphasizing a few notable incidents.


Let me know when you finally decide where you want to put those goal posts and we can discuss this further.
 
2014-03-29 10:07:59 PM
It is a pretty sad state of affairs in journalism when one could reasonably argue that Asif Mandvi is probably one of the top 10 investigative journalists in the U.S. today.
 
2014-03-29 10:21:22 PM

Shadowtag: Old Man Winter: Back when he was an actor, that's how watching him felt like too.

Don't talk about The Last Airbender. No one wants to be reminded of that crappy crappy movie.

/He wasn't horrible in Spider-Man 2


There was also the movie Margin Call from a few years ago where he had a short part as a Wall St executive, and then a long time ago he was a cab driver in Die Hard With A Vengeance.
 
2014-03-29 10:38:59 PM
There is a really good Fresh Air interview by Dave Davies with Neil DeGrasse Tyson where he talks about preparing for an interview with John Stewart. He also talks a bit about race and the TV series Cosmos.

http://www.npr.org/2014/02/27/2834436 70/neil-degrasse-tyson-explains- why-the-cosmos-shouldnt-make-you-feel- small

/my phone keeps adding a space between the last hyphen and "small"
 
2014-03-29 10:43:29 PM

Representative of the unwashed masses: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Representative of the unwashed masses: Just watched the interview, she opened badly by going on the defensive and drawing a line against Environmentalists.

Going the other way there's a clip where three news pieces are referenced, one blowout at surface, one contamination story and one plant fire.  only one is relevant to a fracking piece. Minus 1 for TDS,

Those clips were to counter the shill's assertion that oil companies couldn't be safer and don't need any more regulation, not that fracking itself was safe.

with no context in that regard those are still virtually useless.  Of all things a mattress factory burned up this week.  car accidents happen.  You can't disprove safety records and statistics by only emphasizing a few notable incidents.


A car engine catching on fire and a natural gas refinery catching on fire are two completely different things. A car crash could possibly kill a bunch of people if it is in a Michael Bay-esque crash situation with a one-in-a-million lucky freak coincidences. The other could kill hundreds and level a town if the fire isn't stopped quickly enough. The town of West, Texas, partially disappeared because of negligent inspections of a fertilizer factory, and the damage would be as bad with the oil and gas industry.
 
2014-03-29 10:49:38 PM
GOOD

That's how you're supposed to feel if a journalist was doing his job.
 
2014-03-29 11:32:56 PM

codemastaflex: There is a really good Fresh Air interview by Dave Davies with Neil DeGrasse Tyson where he talks about preparing for an interview with John Stewart. He also talks a bit about race and the TV series Cosmos.

http://www.npr.org/2014/02/27/2834436 70/neil-degrasse-tyson-explains- why-the-cosmos-shouldnt-make-you-feel- small

/my phone keeps adding a space between the last hyphen and "small"


Among other places. Link: http://www.npr.org/2014/02/27/283443670/neil-degrasse-tyson-explains- w hy-the-cosmos-shouldnt-make-you-feel-small
 
2014-03-30 12:25:13 AM

Silent But Deadly: WI241TH: SilentStrider: Used to be Sixty Minutes was like that.
Shame TDS is the only place that happens now.

Aasif Mandvi especially. He has a remarkable talent for getting people to say incredibly stupid things on camera.

I don't watch that often, but one of the last interviews I saw, Aasif had the interviewee speechless for a long 5 seconds after one of his questions.  You could almost see the gerbil wheel turning in his head before he oddly enough agreed half-heartedly.  Hilarious.


Yes, the tennessee healthcare speech. Gave a horrible healthcare scenario, guy says "that's what is going to happen with Obamacare", then Maandvi points out this scearionis taking place in Tenessee. Holy CRAP, the guy had no place to go from there.
 
2014-03-30 04:55:23 AM
 
2014-03-30 04:59:21 AM

GreatGlavinsGhost: Link to Mandvi's Tennessee healthcare interview


FF to 4:12.

I wish someone would make a gif
 
2014-03-30 06:21:55 AM

adamatari: She's not that smart. The Daily Show people are pretty smart, but what they do is obvious and they've been out-spun and out-talked before. Jon Stewart was embarrassing to watch against John Yoo (the torture lawyer), simply because Yoo was clever and Jon couldn't out-clever a lawyer.

That one should have been a slam dunk, too, because torture is pretty farking hard to defend, but being clever rather than blunt worked very badly against Jon Stewart.

He tries too hard to keep it light, IMO. He should take the kiddie gloves off more often. He skewered Jim Cramer so bad I thought the guy was going to break down in tears on the air.

As to the lady in the article... "I told them: 'I know your job is to make me look bad, but mine is to be sure I look good.' I wore a favorite red silk blouse with gold jewelry." and "On the plane on the way home, I reflected on the experience and deduced what they were up to."...

I was in too much shock to even facepalm after reading that.

/I'd link to the infamous "Roll 2:12" incident but Comedy Central has no idea how viral marketing works and the actual clip is almost impossible to find online
 
2014-03-30 06:36:36 AM

LoneWolf343: GOOD

That's how you're supposed to feel if a journalist was doing his job.


Yes exactly.
It is always so incredibly annoying to me when interviewers let politicians and other people BS their way through an interview with obvious non-answers.  If they're interviewing someone about a controversial topic and their subject isn't squirming, then they either aren't asking them good questions or they aren't getting good answers.  In either case the interviewer is, at best, wasting everyone's time with an uninformative interview and, at worst, allowing the interviewee to mislead everyone and dominate the conversation with his own unchallenged talking points.  F**k politeness, people need to be called out on their nonsense.
 
2014-03-30 10:46:37 AM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't think I'll ever understand how people like this sleep at night. They know precisely what are the end-results of their lobbying and sycophantic pandering. You have to be a sociopath to do what they do. I guess it's better than first-degree murder, but not by much.


Don't you dare disrespect Asif Mandvi like that.
 
2014-03-30 05:05:33 PM

Zombalupagus: /I'd link to the infamous "Roll 2:12" incident but Comedy Central has no idea how viral marketing works and the actual clip is almost impossible to find online


Almost. Here's the entire interview: http://walrusvideo.com/jon-stewart-vs-jim-cramer-march-12-2009/

(hope they're not reading FARK)
 
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