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2014-03-29 02:37:25 PM
why do these people even agree to go on?
 
2014-03-29 03:12:21 PM

FlashHarry: why do these people even agree to go on?


Because they are self-righteous and dumb. Or at least dumber than they think they are.
 
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2014-03-29 03:13:18 PM

FlashHarry: why do these people even agree to go on?


Because it's a part of their job to take all the free air time they can get.
 
2014-03-29 03:14:12 PM
"On the plane on the way home, I reflected on the experience and deduced what they were up to."

Wow.  It took her that long.  And wow.  She admits as much.
 
2014-03-29 03:20:10 PM
I don't think I'll ever understand how people like this sleep at night. They know precisely what are the end-results of their lobbying and sycophantic pandering. You have to be a sociopath to do what they do. I guess it's better than first-degree murder, but not by much.
 
2014-03-29 04:07:49 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't think I'll ever understand how people like this sleep at night. They know precisely what are the end-results of their lobbying and sycophantic pandering. You have to be a sociopath to do what they do. I guess it's better than first-degree murder, but not by much.


I assume you're talking about agreeing to write an article for Townhall?
 
2014-03-29 04:30:34 PM
FTFA: "Aasif repeatedly asked me about pizza and whether it was appropriate compensation for a 'fraccident,'" Noon wrote in her op-ed. "I stopped and told them: 'I will not say that word.' Since I was not aware of any fracking accidents, I wasn't going to let them get me on camera saying 'fraccident.'"

Wow, that was pretty savvy of her.  I mean, to not use the word "fraccident" on camera so that they had her saying it.  She wisely just made sure that she was quoted saying it, so that it can only be used in print.  More telling is that she's willfully ignorant of accidents related to tracking.

Future headline, based on this quote:  "Clueless fracking Lobbyest completely unaware of 'fraccidents'"

Oh yeah, much better there lady.  Well done.
 
2014-03-29 04:31:21 PM
Oh, and you know what else feels like 3 hours of water boarding?  About 5 minutes of actual water boarding.
 
2014-03-29 04:41:18 PM
Used to be Sixty Minutes was like that.
Shame TDS is the only place that happens now.
 
2014-03-29 04:45:31 PM
FTFA: But she she wasn't aware of how it would come out until after she'd recorded the segment. "On the plane on the way home, I reflected on the experience and deduced what they were up to."

After much reflection, I deduced all the way to potato.
 
2014-03-29 05:20:39 PM

FlashHarry: why do these people even agree to go on?


For the same reason people gamble at casinos, they think they can beat the house.
 
2014-03-29 05:36:45 PM
I would like to personally waterboard her for three hours so she can see if it's an apt comparison.

Just for fun we'll make the sure the water used for the waterboarding is from a fracked well.
 
2014-03-29 05:59:05 PM
They didnt realize until hours after the fact? Wow. These people are professionals???
 
2014-03-29 06:05:29 PM
Mandvi talked to Marita Noon, a former Christian speaker

Rape the planet for profit. It's what Jesus would have done.
 
2014-03-29 06:09:48 PM

SilentStrider: Used to be Sixty Minutes was like that.
Shame TDS is the only place that happens now.


Aasif Mandvi especially. He has a remarkable talent for getting people to say incredibly stupid things on camera.
 
2014-03-29 06:39:21 PM
Has she been waterboarded before?
 
2014-03-29 06:42:10 PM

WI241TH: SilentStrider: Used to be Sixty Minutes was like that.
Shame TDS is the only place that happens now.

Aasif Mandvi especially. He has a remarkable talent for getting people to say incredibly stupid things on camera.


So did John Oliver. Hope his new show does well.
 
2014-03-29 06:45:26 PM
"I knew I was not the first person to whom they had reached out," she wrote. "Others had turned them down. If I said 'no,' they'd continue down some list until they found someone who'd say yes. I figured it might as well be me because I know that I know my topic."

Yep, she knows it so well she said this:

"Oil and gas companies are quite good at self-regulating or self-policing,"

Wish he flew her out to Bradford County, PA and have her say that to the faces of those that have been impacted by fracking.
 
2014-03-29 06:46:17 PM
I actually thought Aasif went really easy on her.
He could have confronted her with facts, in a humorous way, but opened with a bloody nose joke?
Still, another great segment.
 
2014-03-29 06:47:11 PM
She's not that smart. The Daily Show people are pretty smart, but what they do is obvious and they've been out-spun and out-talked before. Jon Stewart was embarrassing to watch against John Yoo (the torture lawyer), simply because Yoo was clever and Jon couldn't out-clever a lawyer.

That one should have been a slam dunk, too, because torture is pretty farking hard to defend, but being clever rather than blunt worked very badly against Jon Stewart.
 
2014-03-29 06:47:14 PM

fusillade762: Mandvi talked to Marita Noon, a former Christian speaker

Rape the planet for profit. It's what Jesus would have done.


former Christian... Satan pays a lot better.
 
2014-03-29 06:48:21 PM
Leave it to the fracking mouthpiece to joke about waterboarding.
 
2014-03-29 06:48:50 PM
Back when he was an actor, that's how watching him felt like too.
 
2014-03-29 06:49:22 PM

Ambivalence: FlashHarry: why do these people even agree to go on?

For the same reason people gamble at casinos, they think they can beat the house.


Ignorance is insufficient for entertainment of this caliber. We need a liberal dose of hubris.
 
2014-03-29 06:49:24 PM

Ryker's Peninsula: I actually thought Aasif went really easy on her.
He could have confronted her with facts, in a humorous way, but opened with a bloody nose joke?
Still, another great segment.


Well, JO is just a silly Brit, and Aasif is brown.  Those types of people couldn't possibly outsmart them.
 
2014-03-29 06:49:34 PM
I thought she held her own pretty well, all things considered. She didn't come off looking as clueless as most of their other "experts" do, and I had to assume TDS chose her worst moments. I was mildly impressed.

There is basically no way for corporations to present their fracking practices as community-centric and environmentally sound anyway.
 
2014-03-29 06:50:48 PM

Ryker's Peninsula: I actually thought Aasif went really easy on her.
He could have confronted her with facts, in a humorous way, but opened with a bloody nose joke?
Still, another great segment.


I would have loved to have seen it go like the Tennessee health segment did.
 
2014-03-29 06:53:13 PM

adamatari: The Daily Show people are pretty smart, but what they do is obvious and they've been out-spun and out-talked before. Jon Stewart was embarrassing to watch against John Yoo (the torture lawyer), simply because Yoo was clever and Jon couldn't out-clever a lawyer.


Professional rhetoricists in PR and politics should be embarrassed whenever they don't argue circles around the comedians of The Daily Show. You have one job...
 
2014-03-29 06:53:22 PM
It always amazes me that these morons don't know how it will go on TDS. You are going to look goofy in the interview, that's their style. You don't have to watch very many of the shows to realize "Hey, this is a comedy show and they like to make people in their interviews look silly because it is a comedy show!"

For that matter any time there is an interview that is like 3 hours long for a normal 30 minute TV show, you know that means they'll be using heavy editing. They are rolling camera for that long so they can find that bits that fit well with what they want to do.

And of course you could always just read up on it, there's information out there. Yes, they interview you for hours. They also do reshoots of the interviewer asking questions in a more outrageous manner to inter-cut with your answers. Also they control all the tapes, you sign releases to that regard, so the final edit is theirs and theirs alone. The end result will be you looking goofy. They won't necessarily be mean to you (though it is probably not that hard to tell) but you are going to look silly because they are a comedy show and laughs are what they are out for.

I feel zero sympathy for anyone who agrees to get interviewed and then is mad that they played the fool. That means either that you did zero research, which makes you an idiot, you ALWAYS check out a show before agreeing to an interview, or you did know, but for some reason thought you'd be the one interview that was different from all the others.

I have plenty of respect for those that go in to it, knowing what it is all about, and are ok with that and figure it'll be fun, or don't mind playing the fool. I have no respect for those that don't like that, but go on anyhow, and then biatch about it.
 
2014-03-29 06:54:56 PM
How stupid do you have to be to go on The Daily Show when you KNOW what their angle will be? I'm constantly amazed that they continue to get people to be interviewed.
 
2014-03-29 06:56:04 PM

Ambivalence: FlashHarry: why do these people even agree to go on?

For the same reason people gamble at casinos, they think they can beat the house.


You've been practicing that speech, haven't you?
 
2014-03-29 06:59:16 PM

sycraft: It always amazes me that these morons don't know how it will go on TDS. You are going to look goofy in the interview, that's their style. You don't have to watch very many of the shows to realize "Hey, this is a comedy show and they like to make people in their interviews look silly because it is a comedy show!"

For that matter any time there is an interview that is like 3 hours long for a normal 30 minute TV show, you know that means they'll be using heavy editing. They are rolling camera for that long so they can find that bits that fit well with what they want to do.

And of course you could always just read up on it, there's information out there. Yes, they interview you for hours. They also do reshoots of the interviewer asking questions in a more outrageous manner to inter-cut with your answers. Also they control all the tapes, you sign releases to that regard, so the final edit is theirs and theirs alone. The end result will be you looking goofy. They won't necessarily be mean to you (though it is probably not that hard to tell) but you are going to look silly because they are a comedy show and laughs are what they are out for.

I feel zero sympathy for anyone who agrees to get interviewed and then is mad that they played the fool. That means either that you did zero research, which makes you an idiot, you ALWAYS check out a show before agreeing to an interview, or you did know, but for some reason thought you'd be the one interview that was different from all the others.

I have plenty of respect for those that go in to it, knowing what it is all about, and are ok with that and figure it'll be fun, or don't mind playing the fool. I have no respect for those that don't like that, but go on anyhow, and then biatch about it.


Conservatives eventually wised up with Stephen Colbert, telling them to turn any offers at all cost.
 
2014-03-29 06:59:18 PM

unyon: Oh, and you know what else feels like 3 hours of water boarding?  About 5 minutes of actual water boarding.


My googles are weak, so I couldn't find the video.  A guy voluntarily got waterboarded, just to see how bad it was.  He lasted (I think) 11 seconds.  He was holding onto a small metal pipe and had to just drop it to make them stop.  Afterwards they were interviewing him about it, and the guy that actually did the waterboarding, who also administers it to some of our elite forces as training, said that was longer than most special forces people make it their first time.  The guy that had been waterboarded replied that he was trying to let go of the pipe after about 1 second, but was so overcome with sheer terror and panic that he couldn't get himself to let go; he just completely froze up and his hand tightened up around it.

And no, torture sympathizers, it isn't "simulated drowning."  It is actual, slow drowning, at least according to the medical doctor and the guy that uses it to train elite military units.  You begin inhaling water, which gets into your lungs, decreases surface area of lung tissue that can absorb oxygen out of the air you breath, and it will kill you if it isn't stopped.
 
2014-03-29 07:01:08 PM

Cyclometh: How stupid do you have to be to go on The Daily Show when you KNOW what their angle will be? I'm constantly amazed that they continue to get people to be interviewed.


Stupid and ignorant people tend to believe they are much smarter and educated than they actually are.
 
2014-03-29 07:01:44 PM

Cyclometh: Ambivalence: FlashHarry: why do these people even agree to go on?

For the same reason people gamble at casinos, they think they can beat the house.

You've been practicing that speech, haven't you?


Um....no.  But it sounded good.
 
2014-03-29 07:02:23 PM
The piece was quite unnerving.   I think I might be a little smarmed out, but I wanted to punch the guy when he was doing the Chuckles the Clown bit with the people whose water was ruined.  HAHAHAHAHAHA Bhopal in our own backyard HAHAHAHAHAHA.

Yes, I'm grumpy.
 
2014-03-29 07:03:25 PM

SilentStrider: Used to be Sixty Minutes was like that.
Shame TDS is the only place that happens now.


Sixty Minutes has a long, very long history of editing interviews to make interviewees look bad. Don't kid yourself, they've been doing it for years and years.
 
2014-03-29 07:03:39 PM
Is there any reason that The Daily Show reporters are not in jail?  They will lie and they will say anything to make people look bad, so long as it supports their position.  The fracking industry simply wants to make people happy, and they want to give American families fuel at a price which makes those people happy, rather than what makes the most profit.  Thank you, fracking companies, for being America's first line of defense.
 
2014-03-29 07:05:35 PM

Mike_LowELL: Is there any reason that The Daily Show reporters are not in jail?  They will lie and they will say anything to make people look bad, so long as it supports their position.  The fracking industry simply wants to make people happy, and they want to give American families fuel at a price which makes those people happy, rather than what makes the most profit.  Thank you, fracking companies, for being America's first line of defense.


I know what you mean! I actually kind of wish they could frack people to get natural gas.  If a little is good, more must be better!
 
2014-03-29 07:07:46 PM
FTA: "Mandvi talked to Marita Noon, a former Christian speaker..."

Oh, a former Christian speaker. I'm sure that qualifies you as a geologist, hydrologist, chemist, and provides whatever other experience and expertise that may be needed to qualify you as a hydraulic fracturing expert.

Also FTA: Noon wrote that she went into it well aware of how the "Daily Show" handles this kind of interview. "When I walked into the offices of the Daily Show, I felt that I was ready," she wrote. "I told them: 'I know your job is to make me look bad, but mine is to be sure I look good.' I wore a favorite red silk blouse with gold jewelry."

STFU, you brainless shill.
 
2014-03-29 07:14:32 PM

sycraft: It always amazes me that these morons don't know how it will go on TDS. You are going to look goofy in the interview, that's their style. You don't have to watch very many of the shows to realize "Hey, this is a comedy show and they like to make people in their interviews look silly because it is a comedy show!"


I feel zero sympathy for anyone who is sees the same behavior repeated over and over and is always amazed by it.  ;^>

Also, Simpsons did it.

i.imgur.com

/sweet candy
 
2014-03-29 07:16:44 PM

sycraft: It always amazes me that these morons don't know how it will go on TDS. You are going to look goofy in the interview, that's their style. You don't have to watch very many of the shows to realize "Hey, this is a comedy show and they like to make people in their interviews look silly because it is a comedy show!"

For that matter any time there is an interview that is like 3 hours long for a normal 30 minute TV show, you know that means they'll be using heavy editing. They are rolling camera for that long so they can find that bits that fit well with what they want to do.

And of course you could always just read up on it, there's information out there. Yes, they interview you for hours. They also do reshoots of the interviewer asking questions in a more outrageous manner to inter-cut with your answers. Also they control all the tapes, you sign releases to that regard, so the final edit is theirs and theirs alone. The end result will be you looking goofy. They won't necessarily be mean to you (though it is probably not that hard to tell) but you are going to look silly because they are a comedy show and laughs are what they are out for.

I feel zero sympathy for anyone who agrees to get interviewed and then is mad that they played the fool. That means either that you did zero research, which makes you an idiot, you ALWAYS check out a show before agreeing to an interview, or you did know, but for some reason thought you'd be the one interview that was different from all the others.

I have plenty of respect for those that go in to it, knowing what it is all about, and are ok with that and figure it'll be fun, or don't mind playing the fool. I have no respect for those that don't like that, but go on anyhow, and then biatch about it.


Actually they dont do that at all.  There was an article a while back about a Samatha Bee interview (written by the interviewee) and it was made very clear that they always shot the question and answer together.  If they dont like the take thy have to shot both the question and the answer again.  Honestly i was surprised I sort of assumed they recut things for maximum funny.  I guess the fear of a lawsuit wins out.
 
2014-03-29 07:19:21 PM

WI241TH: SilentStrider: Used to be Sixty Minutes was like that.
Shame TDS is the only place that happens now.

Aasif Mandvi especially. He has a remarkable talent for getting people to say incredibly stupid things on camera.


He is really good. I'm surprised he's not been snapped up by a real news agency. Oh wait, there aren't any.
 
2014-03-29 07:20:51 PM

Gyrfalcon: WI241TH: SilentStrider: Used to be Sixty Minutes was like that.
Shame TDS is the only place that happens now.

Aasif Mandvi especially. He has a remarkable talent for getting people to say incredibly stupid things on camera.

He is really good. I'm surprised he's not been snapped up by a real news agency. Oh wait, there aren't any.


The Daily Show has more integrity than any news show on TV.
 
2014-03-29 07:21:58 PM

WI241TH: SilentStrider: Used to be Sixty Minutes was like that.
Shame TDS is the only place that happens now.

Aasif Mandvi especially. He has a remarkable talent for getting people to say incredibly stupid things on camera.


I don't watch that often, but one of the last interviews I saw, Aasif had the interviewee speechless for a long 5 seconds after one of his questions.  You could almost see the gerbil wheel turning in his head before he oddly enough agreed half-heartedly.  Hilarious.
 
2014-03-29 07:22:01 PM

The Thoroughbred of Sin: sycraft: It always amazes me that these morons don't know how it will go on TDS. You are going to look goofy in the interview, that's their style. You don't have to watch very many of the shows to realize "Hey, this is a comedy show and they like to make people in their interviews look silly because it is a comedy show!"

For that matter any time there is an interview that is like 3 hours long for a normal 30 minute TV show, you know that means they'll be using heavy editing. They are rolling camera for that long so they can find that bits that fit well with what they want to do.

And of course you could always just read up on it, there's information out there. Yes, they interview you for hours. They also do reshoots of the interviewer asking questions in a more outrageous manner to inter-cut with your answers. Also they control all the tapes, you sign releases to that regard, so the final edit is theirs and theirs alone. The end result will be you looking goofy. They won't necessarily be mean to you (though it is probably not that hard to tell) but you are going to look silly because they are a comedy show and laughs are what they are out for.

I feel zero sympathy for anyone who agrees to get interviewed and then is mad that they played the fool. That means either that you did zero research, which makes you an idiot, you ALWAYS check out a show before agreeing to an interview, or you did know, but for some reason thought you'd be the one interview that was different from all the others.

I have plenty of respect for those that go in to it, knowing what it is all about, and are ok with that and figure it'll be fun, or don't mind playing the fool. I have no respect for those that don't like that, but go on anyhow, and then biatch about it.

Actually they dont do that at all.  There was an article a while back about a Samatha Bee interview (written by the interviewee) and it was made very clear that they always shot the question and answer together.  If they dont lik ...


This was the reason that Penn and Teller called their targets "Assholes" rather than "Liars" or "Frauds" on "Bullshiat!".
 
2014-03-29 07:25:57 PM

sycraft: It always amazes me that these morons don't know how it will go on TDS. You are going to look goofy in the interview, that's their style. You don't have to watch very many of the shows to realize "Hey, this is a comedy show and they like to make people in their interviews look silly because it is a comedy show!"


It would be like going on the Bill O'Reilly show and expecting to have a conversation where he actually listens to your arguments and allows you to finish your thoughts before talking over you.
 
2014-03-29 07:26:04 PM

Truffle Kerfuffle: Ryker's Peninsula: I actually thought Aasif went really easy on her.
He could have confronted her with facts, in a humorous way, but opened with a bloody nose joke?
Still, another great segment.

I would have loved to have seen it go like the Tennessee health segment did.


(See my comment to WI241TH above)... darnit that was the episode I was thinking from that post.  Thanks!
 
2014-03-29 07:26:37 PM
No outrage here, she said she knew what she was getting into and seemed to be giving TDS credit for playing hardball better than she expected.
 
2014-03-29 07:28:48 PM

fusillade762: Mandvi talked to Marita Noon, a former Christian speaker

Rape the planet for profit. It's what Jesus would have done.



A former "christian speaker" eh? That explains the hubris.
 
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