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(Chicago Sun-Times)   New study conducted by the Romero Institute of Chicago proves 911 response times vary depending on how close you live to a police station and whether or not your home is located in the middle of a gang warzone   (suntimes.com) divider line 23
    More: Obvious, Romero Institute, Chicago, not equal, Chicago Police Department, Jarrett Barrios, Chicago Sun-Times, South Chicago  
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2014-03-29 03:54:19 PM
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2014-03-29 05:33:54 PM

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Going going gone!
 
2014-03-29 05:35:44 PM
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2014-03-29 05:42:17 PM
 
2014-03-29 05:43:26 PM
Amazing,it took a study for someone to figure this out. Guess you can get grant money for anything.
 
2014-03-29 06:01:46 PM
Meh. Understaffing is due to profit margins. Calls holding is a typical scenario in busy systems. Service here funded a study to justify lengthening response times to meet compliance and minimal staffing.They also upgraded our radios to be encrypted under the guise of HIPPA and better patient privacy. The reality was they didn't want the public to hear how understaffed we were and how often no one was available. Calls still go out unencrypted on the fire department side and when the news started hearing EMS is having a delayed response over the fire channels, the EMS side just quit giving any heads up to the fire or police at all.
 
2014-03-29 06:04:28 PM

thehobbes: Meh. Understaffing is due to profit margins


Chicago's municipal EMS is run by the Fire Department.

news.medill.northwestern.edu

Why should "profit margins" matter to a fire department? I mean, this IS the IAFF selling point, right?
 
2014-03-29 06:10:53 PM
When seconds count, the police are minutes away.
 
2014-03-29 06:16:09 PM
obvious to anyone who has played this game
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Watch your city fall apart if there aren't enough PDs and FDs
 
2014-03-29 06:38:28 PM
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2014-03-29 06:40:10 PM
Good thing Chicago has such robust gun rights.
 
2014-03-29 06:42:49 PM

Doom MD: Good thing Chicago has such robust gun rights.


Yeah. More guns would definitely help.

/lives in Chicago
//in a gang zone
///more guns would help 0%. Or less.
 
2014-03-29 07:20:36 PM
Well, duh.
 
2014-03-29 07:36:50 PM
So much this and so much duh. Every day of my job as a dispatcher in a near-bankrupt city is an attempt to explain this to people. Yes, I (usually) feel bad; no, there's nothing I can do. Also, the ambulance doesn't teleport to your house within three seconds of you calling. They have to DRIVE there from their station.
 
2014-03-29 09:00:20 PM
I live one very small block away from both police and fire so I'm getting a kick of these replies.
 
2014-03-29 09:23:35 PM

Freudian_slipknot: Doom MD: Good thing Chicago has such robust gun rights.

Yeah. More guns would definitely help.

/lives in Chicago
//in a gang zone
///more guns would help 0%. Or less.


Only if in the wrong hands. On my block, every other house is armed. Guess what happens...

/closest station is five minutes away.
//STILL takes 20 minutes to respond.
 
2014-03-29 10:10:44 PM

People_are_Idiots: Freudian_slipknot: Doom MD: Good thing Chicago has such robust gun rights.

Yeah. More guns would definitely help.

/lives in Chicago
//in a gang zone
///more guns would help 0%. Or less.

Only if in the wrong hands. On my block, every other house is armed. Guess what happens...

/closest station is five minutes away.
//STILL takes 20 minutes to respond.


In Chicago, it helps to live in a neighborhood where every other house is CPD or CFD.

/neighborhoods would absolutely go to shiat if the residency requirement were removed
//seriously, it provides major stability to neighborhoods
 
2014-03-29 10:15:16 PM
In my younger, wilder days myself and a few friends got into an armed conflict with some other wayward youths on my grandmother's block in Englewood. After it was over I went into the house and she was sitting in the front room with that look on her face. She says, "you know I called the police on y'all right." I ask her what they said. They told her to call back when it was over and they'd collect the bodies
 
2014-03-30 12:12:10 AM
Yeah, and profits still matter as fire. Also lots of private services in Chicago. Please go back to bronymedic. Easier to dismisst you that way.
 
2014-03-30 12:56:35 AM

thehobbes: Yeah, and profits still matter as fire. Also lots of private services in Chicago. Please go back to bronymedic. Easier to dismisst you that way.


Sorry I have a hard-on as a non-profit hospital based provider for calling out the fire side for being the best argument against Fire-based EMS.

Someone has to keep you guys honest. :3
 
2014-03-30 01:12:29 AM
I ask a cop buddy in Denver, "How long would it take for the PD to thoroughly clean up the city's gang and drug problems if everyone at the State government level took the gloves off?"

"About a week," he said.
 
2014-03-30 04:25:35 AM

soze: In Chicago, it helps to live in a neighborhood where every other house is CPD or CFD.


Here, it's better to have a civvie.

/police can't shoot worth a flip.
 
2014-03-30 08:52:51 AM

Clemkadidlefark: I ask a cop buddy in Denver, "How long would it take for the PD to thoroughly clean up the city's gang and drug problems if everyone at the State government level took the gloves off?"

"About a week," he said.


Cops never know what they are talking about with regard to this. Prosecutors don't just sit on their hands, they're politically motivated to get convictions, and since they're elected and autonomous, they do what they want.

There are legal barriers to "cleaning up the streets" in a week. That's probably why they don't go forward.
 
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