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(Chicago Sun-Times)   "We've all dozed off driving a train," says the president of the CTA's union in the wake of last week's derailment at O'Hare   (suntimes.com) divider line 9
    More: Scary, CTA, O'Hare Airport, Amalgamated Transit Union, a.m. Monday, O'Hare International Airport  
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2014-03-29 04:00:35 PM
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DrewCurtisJr: efgeise: Yeah, I'm pro-union as a whole, but I'll be pissed off if the union starts actively fighting attempts to fire her, especially since it's the union's job to make sure she is not being overworked.

Some unions operate kind of like lawyers representing their clients. They are obligated to represent their members in the employee in the discipline process.


Which I do agree with, to a point. It's just borderline unethical to defend someone who confessed to falling asleep whilst operating a fast moving vehicle which ended up derailing and injuring people.

Plus, the union isn't apparently doing its job correctly, if the drivers are being so overworked that they are prone to fall asleep like that.
2014-03-29 03:58:27 PM
2 votes:
Sounds like we need to get rid of the unions and hire people who don't fall asleep while driving a train.
2014-03-29 12:27:42 PM
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Two dozing incidents in two months "sounds bad. It sounds horrible in the public's eyes,'' Kelly said. "Each individual is different, and it all depends on what's going on. Come on. We've all dozed off driving a train [or a car]. There's a difference between dozing and falling asleep, in my opinion.''

NO.  NO we all haven't.  Amtrak even has an alerter switch the engineer has to hit every 30 seconds to make sure their engineers don't doze off.
2014-03-29 05:55:16 PM
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Nutsac_Jim: A city council, working for the best interest of the city, agreed to this?


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2014-03-29 04:23:18 PM
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efgeise: Which I do agree with, to a point. It's just borderline unethical to defend someone who confessed to falling asleep whilst operating a fast moving vehicle which ended up derailing and injuring people.


Like I said, they are obligated to defend her interests. It would be unethical to put someone who is dangerous behind the controls of the train but if that is the case hopeful that will come out in the process.

efgeise: Plus, the union isn't apparently doing its job correctly, if the drivers are being so overworked that they are prone to fall asleep like that.


The article says the driver had 18 hours off prior to that shift and she volunteered for some of the double shift work. This is a tactic do deflect blame from the union member and try to blame management. It is pretty common to say "What the real problem is we need to hire more workers."
2014-03-29 03:39:34 PM
1 votes:

Russ1642: Driving a train is about as boring as sitting and trying to be actively involved in watching a windows loading bar. At least when you're driving a car you have to steer. On a train you just fraking sit there and do nothing when you're at cruising speed.


Every now and then in Arizona some monster cargo needs to make its way on the highway for hundreds of miles at speeds of 3 - 10 mph. But even with all the police escorts, lights, coffee and donuts, I can't imagine many more painful experiences than driving hundreds of miles through desert at 3 - 10 mph.

http://www.kpho.com/story/25099635/520-ton-oversize-load-slowly-make s- its-way-through-az

A recent example. Must be lighter than the last one they pulled through here since they are being quoted of making 10 mph.
2014-03-29 03:32:28 PM
1 votes:

TheOther: That's what the COCAINE is for, idjit!

/humming tune


Casey Jones, you'd better watch your speed.
2014-03-29 03:24:21 PM
1 votes:
The answer to the problem is automatic trains.
2014-03-29 02:31:51 PM
1 votes:
Unions are their own worst enemy.

Seriously, don't they have anyone from public relations talks to these folks before they go in front of the press?
 
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