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(Huffington Post)   Jerry Bruckheimer reveals the "plot" of Top Gun 2, which is surprising considering the first one didn't have a plot so much as it had homoerotic volleyball games, flying, and Val Kilmer hamming it up   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 73
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2014-03-29 09:58:33 AM  
Does Top Gun really need a sequel?
 
2014-03-29 10:02:18 AM  
How are they going to cram Val Kilmer into a jet?
 
2014-03-29 10:08:21 AM  
Subby, your ego is writing checks your body can't cash. You've been redlit, you lost your ass on the politics tab three times, put in your place twice by liters, and have a history of nonsense in the queue that stacks up equal to the length of my johnson!
 
2014-03-29 10:13:46 AM  

texdent: Does Top Gun really need a sequel?


No

/and it doesn't need a remake, either
 
2014-03-29 10:16:25 AM  
What's with all these sequels they're making 20 years after anyone gave a shiat?
 
2014-03-29 10:17:10 AM  
Your plot sucks!
 
2014-03-29 10:41:29 AM  
 
2014-03-29 10:42:33 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: texdent: Does Top Gun really need a sequel?

No

/and it doesn't need a remake, either


This.

hi13760: Your plot sucks!


I haven't RTFA, but it's probably going to involve pretending there's technological parity.
 
2014-03-29 10:50:58 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Obligatory.


I knew what that was before I even clicked.
 
2014-03-29 10:53:46 AM  

Nabb1: I knew what that was before I even clicked.


I'm surprised it wasn't posted earlier.
 
2014-03-29 11:15:19 AM  

Mugato: How are they going to cram Val Kilmer into a jet?


it's a cargo plane full of rubber dog shiat out of Hong Kong
 
2014-03-29 11:26:55 AM  
God.  I hope that boy and girl from Hunger Games is in it.  And it gets hit witha  sharknado.
 
2014-03-29 11:32:50 AM  
By the look of him, Kilmer has been doing nothing but hamming ever since.
 
2014-03-29 11:36:16 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Obligatory.


That's brilliant.
 
2014-03-29 11:41:39 AM  

Quasar: By the look of him, Kilmer has been doing nothing but hamming ever since.


I think there were some mashed potatoes in there, too

/lots of mashed potatoes
//♫ Highway to the gravy zone... ♫
 
2014-03-29 11:53:48 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-29 01:23:48 PM  
Isn't the plot that an ace fighter pilot goes to the best school ever to compete for a spot on the best fighting team ever? The conflict is that he is attracted to his teacher and he loses his best friend. The conclusion is that despite his devil-may-care attitude he ends up saving the day against the Russians.
 
2014-03-29 01:47:09 PM  
Fun facts: the older gentleman seen with Charlie in the bar scene is the real life "Viper" and was a consultant for the movie. Also, the real Top Gun school charges anyone on the staff a $5 fine if they quote the movie.
 
2014-03-29 02:00:58 PM  
So it's basically John Henry with jets?
 
2014-03-29 02:08:32 PM  

Mark Ratner: Fun facts: the older gentleman seen with Charlie in the bar scene is the real life "Viper" and was a consultant for the movie. Also, the real Top Gun school charges anyone on the staff a $5 fine if they quote the movie.


It should be fifty.  A hundred if they reenact the bar serenade.
 
2014-03-29 02:08:32 PM  
Give James Tolkan a cameo, that dude never ages.
 
2014-03-29 02:14:42 PM  
www.letsplaysnes.com
 
2014-03-29 02:16:59 PM  

texdent: Does Top Gun really need a sequel?


Meh. Rather obvious sequel. Goose's son grows up, goes to Top Gun, meets Maverick's and Charlie's daughter, who is also a pilot. Hilarity ensues.

/yes, Jennifer Lawrence as the daughter
 
2014-03-29 02:17:35 PM  
I probably wouldn't watch Top Gun 2. I don't need my childhood wrecked because Hollywood cannot come up with new ideas. My theory is nobody is willing to back the movie money wise, so they put these "Sequels" out hoping to tap into someones childhood dreams.

In any case, the movie will have explosions, some hot chick and an aging tom cruise. There won't be any decent sound track to go with the movie, there for its probably going to be shiat.

Doesn't matter what plot they come up with or actors, it simply won't touch the original in any way, in my opinion not even worth spending $12 to see, along with a $19 popcorn and $12 soda.
 
2014-03-29 02:20:41 PM  
If Tony Scott isn't directing it, then I ain't watching it

And you're a cateloupe.
 
2014-03-29 02:33:43 PM  

Pumpernickel bread: If Tony Scott isn't directing it, then I ain't watching it


He's probably not.
 
2014-03-29 02:39:55 PM  
I like how when we go to DefCon 3 toe to toe with the Russkies the only fighter pilots the Navy can find are the half-dozen rookies right out of the fighter school, including the guy who wrecked his jet and dropped out.
Where the hell is last year's Top Gun class? Are they stuck in 1941 with Kirk Douglas or what?
 
2014-03-29 02:46:27 PM  
We haven't had a real air-to-air battle since Vietnam, right?
 
2014-03-29 02:48:53 PM  
(reads link)  Tom Cruise's character is up against drones?  Proving the pilots aren't outdated?

Sounds like the start of Green Lantern.  Seriously.
 
2014-03-29 02:51:06 PM  

Alphax: We haven't had a real air-to-air battle since Vietnam, right?


Wrong.
 
2014-03-29 02:51:23 PM  

Mark Ratner: Fun facts: the older gentleman seen with Charlie in the bar scene is the real life "Viper" and was a consultant for the movie. Also, the real Top Gun school charges anyone on the staff a $5 fine if they quote the movie.


The real Top Gun is now called something like the "Naval Strike and Air Warfare Center" and with the end of the Cold War, focuses more on ground attack missions against third-world shiatholes that can't field an effective air force, so I don't see it being particularly riveting watching dudes make craters in the Nevada desert.

Oh, and it also moved from Miramar, California to NAS Fallon, which is is in the most boring, ass-end of Nevada.  I had to do training there with some Marine ANGLICO dudes, and we were bored out of our farking minds.
 
2014-03-29 02:51:49 PM  

freddie freeloader: Pumpernickel bread: If Tony Scott isn't directing it, then I ain't watching it

He's probably not.


Sure, with a soundtrack by Tupac and Hendrix.

It's not really a Top Gun sequel if it doesn't feature Kenny Loggins on the soundtrack, though.
 
2014-03-29 02:53:17 PM  

Alphax: (reads link) Tom Cruise's character is up against drones? Proving the pilots aren't outdated?


Yeah, that's even dumber than I would have expected as a plot for any sequel or adaptation.

Honestly, if Bruckenheimer and Cruise REALLY want to do this, a straight up remake with "Maverick" now as an instructor and a new cast of hot-shot pilots would make the most sense. The actual plot they come up with is not really that important; the original Top Gun, as cheesy and brainless as it was, was still watchable because of the dogfighting scenes.

Any sort of action popcorn film just needs a lot of well-choreographed action as a base...if you do that right, a lot can be forgiven around it.
 
2014-03-29 02:55:24 PM  

macadamnut: Alphax: We haven't had a real air-to-air battle since Vietnam, right?

Wrong.


Not an air-to-air battle if one plane is completely unarmed.

Thought I think the Brits and Argentines mixed it up a bit in the Falklands in 1982.
 
2014-03-29 02:55:50 PM  
i can't forgive the hollywood sequel machine after what they did to robocop
 
2014-03-29 02:56:36 PM  
They're just riding high on all the goodwill generated by Archer.

www.slate.com
 
2014-03-29 02:57:59 PM  

Alphax: macadamnut: Alphax: We haven't had a real air-to-air battle since Vietnam, right?

Wrong.

Not an air-to-air battle if one plane is completely unarmed.

Thought I think the Brits and Argentines mixed it up a bit in the Falklands in 1982.


I was being silly, it was a bit one-sided. But I believe the Iran-Iraq war might have what you're looking for.
 
2014-03-29 03:01:15 PM  

charlesmartel11235: i can't forgive the hollywood sequel machine after what they did to robocop


But jetpack!  And ninja cyborgs!

How could it fail?
 
2014-03-29 03:53:36 PM  

Killer Cars: Alphax: (reads link) Tom Cruise's character is up against drones? Proving the pilots aren't outdated?

Yeah, that's even dumber than I would have expected as a plot for any sequel or adaptation.

Honestly, if Bruckenheimer and Cruise REALLY want to do this, a straight up remake with "Maverick" now as an instructor and a new cast of hot-shot pilots would make the most sense. The actual plot they come up with is not really that important; the original Top Gun, as cheesy and brainless as it was, was still watchable because of the dogfighting scenes.

Any sort of action popcorn film just needs a lot of well-choreographed action as a base...if you do that right, a lot can be forgiven around it.


What would be an even more interesting story would be if Maverick not only became an Aggressor pilot, but eventually wound up on loan to the Red Eagles piloting MiGs against Top Gun pilots. The program was run by the USAF, but they eventually had a few Navy pilots as part of the team. Since Miramar was so close to Tonopah Range, it was really easy for the Navy to "borrow" the Top Gun pilots when there were holes in the USAF sortie schedule and give them "exposures" to the real MiGs. This wound up being really helpful, because it alleviated the "buck fever" US pilots often got when they saw a MiG for the first time. Once they got used to seeing the MiGs up close and learning how they flew, it was easy for them to figure out how to get the upper hand on them.

The Red Eagle program is supposedly shut down, but it was a really interesting story that could make a cool period piece if they had part of the film flashing back to Maverick's career after the first movie. Hell, it even would make a great stand alone movie without any Top Gun tie in because based on the book I read about it, the group was full of very colorful characters and the black nature of the program gave them a lot of leeway to be a bit weird. Since most of the MiGs were rebuilt models they bought from former Soviet-leaning states that changed sides (like Indonesia), the planes were not all that mechanically sound, spare parts were hard to come by, and documentation was sparse, which meant that the planes were dangerous as all hell to fly. Some planes like the MiG-23 even had some serious design flaws, and would literally come apart if you flew them too hard (the canopy would actually shatter on the MiG-23 if it went too fast, for example). It is a really interesting story of a small group who pulled off some seemingly impossible things and really did a lot to help better train US pilots during the cold war.
 
2014-03-29 04:02:31 PM  
userdisk.webry.biglobe.ne.jp
 
2014-03-29 04:11:56 PM  
I have heard people saying a Top Gun remake would ruin their childhood.  I just do not buy it.

What will ruin your childhood memories of Top Gun, is watching it as an adult and realizing what an awful movie it really was.  Homeorotic softcore romance, even Kelly Micgillis was fugly.

I would say that part 2 should open up with Maverick and Iceman living in early retirement, running a bed and breakfast that caters to gay military guys, called the Cock Pit Inn.
 
2014-03-29 04:15:21 PM  
Ghost Goose.
 
2014-03-29 04:23:37 PM  

macadamnut: I like how when we go to DefCon 3 toe to toe with the Russkies the only fighter pilots the Navy can find are the half-dozen rookies right out of the fighter school, including the guy who wrecked his jet and dropped out.
Where the hell is last year's Top Gun class? Are they stuck in 1941 with Kirk Douglas or what?


img.pandawhale.com
 
2014-03-29 04:52:40 PM  

Mugato: How are they going to cram Val Kilmer into a jet?




Are we going to have to look at Kelly McGillis?


brocouncil.com
 
2014-03-29 05:04:39 PM  
Iron Eagle was way better.
 
2014-03-29 05:04:44 PM  

hasty ambush: Mugato: How are they going to cram Val Kilmer into a jet?

Are we going to have to look at Kelly McGillis?


[brocouncil.com image 650x358]


she looks like Tyler Hansbrough
 
2014-03-29 05:54:57 PM  
I remember seeing this movie at Lynnhaven Mall in Virginia Beach back in the day. They had a Navy recruiting booth right outside the exits. To this day, I wonder how many noobs they signed up?

"You mean I can be a Navy fighter pilot because I watched 'Top Gun'? Cool! Sign me up!!!"
 
2014-03-29 05:58:46 PM  

Catsaregreen: I remember seeing this movie at Lynnhaven Mall in Virginia Beach back in the day. They had a Navy recruiting booth right outside the exits. To this day, I wonder how many noobs they signed up?

"You mean I can be a Navy fighter pilot because I watched 'Top Gun'? Cool! Sign me up!!!"


The TV show "Black Sheep Squadron" did the same for the Marines. Many young men fresh out of high school signed up for the Marines because they thought they were going to be fighter pilots, and the recruiters did bother to correct them.
 
2014-03-29 06:00:20 PM  

Sgt Otter: Mark Ratner: Fun facts: the older gentleman seen with Charlie in the bar scene is the real life "Viper" and was a consultant for the movie. Also, the real Top Gun school charges anyone on the staff a $5 fine if they quote the movie.

The real Top Gun is now called something like the "Naval Strike and Air Warfare Center" and with the end of the Cold War, focuses more on ground attack missions against third-world shiatholes that can't field an effective air force, so I don't see it being particularly riveting watching dudes make craters in the Nevada desert.

Oh, and it also moved from Miramar, California to NAS Fallon, which is is in the most boring, ass-end of Nevada.  I had to do training there with some Marine ANGLICO dudes, and we were bored out of our farking minds.


Thanks for that info, but more importantly, for serving in the military. I bet you have some stories to tell.
 
2014-03-29 06:03:37 PM  
The last time this thread came around, I predicted a plot not too far off from this.   But the drone thing can be handled  several ways.  It could be human pilot versus autonomous drone, or human pilot versus remote human pilot. One of the selling points of human remote pilots is that you can take advantage of the skills and wisdom of an older, highly-experienced pilot, and use him in a way that doesn't endanger his life by actually puling gees and being exposed to live fire. In the air combat arena, the hardware, costly as it is, is not the most rare and expensive component: the PILOT is.

What would be fun is Cruise bringing in a cadre of retired fat old bastard pilots to man drones and wax the tails of the young, inexperienced live pilots.
 
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