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(Chicago Trib)   Chicago may have to pay almost $6 million to a bicyclist injured after a tree branch fell on him   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 59
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2014-03-29 12:45:28 PM
Nice use of sappy tag.
 
2014-03-29 12:45:33 PM
But will he leaf the area? Does he pine for the Fjords?
 
2014-03-29 12:47:48 PM
6 million seems low for being paralyzed.
 
2014-03-29 12:47:59 PM
When you're repeatedly told about the problem and don't fix it you're just asking for liability.
 
2014-03-29 12:48:09 PM
Since there were no witnesses, did he make a sound?
 
2014-03-29 12:49:06 PM
Nature always has the right of way.
 
2014-03-29 12:51:17 PM
If bicyclists wood stay off the road, maybe they wood not be so reviled even trees try to kill them.
 
2014-03-29 12:51:22 PM
Do cities normally carry insurance for this stuff or do they pay out of pocket?
 
2014-03-29 12:51:43 PM

highrye: Nice use of sappy tag.


I don't care about the story at all, but that tag though....
 
2014-03-29 12:52:12 PM
That's about 120k a year for the rest of his expected life, which doesn't doesn't seem outrageous at all, when you consider costs for a handicapped person's medical needs, as well as basic compensation for lost income.
 
2014-03-29 12:52:45 PM
My first thought was 'greedy prick cyclist...', then

"Attorney Michael Goode said his client, now 39, was left paralyzed from the waist down and lives in an assisted living home." "Those requests came via 311 calls and Internet messages.
In one case, an Internet message warned that branches had already fallen from the tree, striking the windshield of a car, the documents state."


... oh. 6 mil? Double it. At least.
 
2014-03-29 12:52:54 PM

duffblue: 6 million seems low for being paralyzed.


Yeah if that was mean I would want $20 million minimum.
 
2014-03-29 12:54:07 PM

deadsanta: That's about 120k a year for the rest of his expected life, which doesn't doesn't seem outrageous at all, when you consider costs for a handicapped person's medical needs, as well as basic compensation for lost income.


It seems low for complete negligence by the city.
 
2014-03-29 12:54:35 PM
Wood you all just leave him alone?
 
2014-03-29 12:55:45 PM
Ailanthus is invasive.   The city has no reason at all to not have cut it down completely and removed it prior to any problem.

For being paralyzed,  this guy should probably be getting double that amount.   10-15 million would be closer.  Plus there should be some stipulation the city begin paying attention to the other Ailanthus in the area.   Where there is one there are probably 5,000 more.
 
2014-03-29 12:59:50 PM
So they knew it was a problem and they continued to ride under it? Wear a helmet next time chump.
 
2014-03-29 01:00:58 PM
TOTY nominee
 
2014-03-29 01:01:25 PM

ReverendJynxed: So they knew it was a problem and they continued to ride under it? Wear a helmet next time chump.


This. Life happens, people get hurt. You don't get a payout because you're a moron. Or rather, you shouldn't.
 
2014-03-29 01:06:51 PM

Kit Fister: ReverendJynxed: So they knew it was a problem and they continued to ride under it? Wear a helmet next time chump.

This. Life happens, people get hurt. You don't get a payout because you're a moron. Or rather, you shouldn't.


He was a lawyer.  everything went according to plan, except the paralyzed part.
 
2014-03-29 01:08:27 PM
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2014-03-29 01:10:29 PM

Kit Fister: ReverendJynxed: So they knew it was a problem and they continued to ride under it? Wear a helmet next time chump.

This. Life happens, people get hurt. You don't get a payout because you're a moron. Or rather, you shouldn't.


Somebody didn't read the article. What do you think this is, fark?
 
2014-03-29 01:21:32 PM
I don't live in Chicago, but I googled City council and they have like 50 council members who are all Democrats?    I think the Mayor is a Democrat.

Democrats,   especially here in Fark are always proclaiming environmentalism.   So Chicago had reports for years that these trees were a problem.   AND the trees in question are invasive species.    Yet Chicago City council did nothing.    What other environmental issues are they turning a blind eye to?

Environmental groups in my state are all over the Ailanthus issue.   There are road closures while trees are removed.   There is spraying programs.    Literature and education programs.

And in Chicago these trees are to the point of disabling people and the Council and Mayor do nothing ?
Talk of environmentalism, but no action.    Or maybe it's just they won't put money where their mouth is.

/pay up
//at least 12 million
 
2014-03-29 01:23:16 PM

duffblue: Kit Fister: ReverendJynxed: So they knew it was a problem and they continued to ride under it? Wear a helmet next time chump.

This. Life happens, people get hurt. You don't get a payout because you're a moron. Or rather, you shouldn't.

Somebody didn't read the article. What do you think this is, fark?


Oh no, I read the article, and I still say that people accept risks of injury just by stepping out of their door. The world is not safe. Get over it.
 
2014-03-29 01:23:33 PM
This wouldn't have happened if the Bears re-signed Brian Urlacher.

/no loyalty derp
 
2014-03-29 01:24:26 PM

toadist: I don't live in Chicago, but I googled City council and they have like 50 council members who are all Democrats?    I think the Mayor is a Democrat.

Democrats,   especially here in Fark are always proclaiming environmentalism.   So Chicago had reports for years that these trees were a problem.   AND the trees in question are invasive species.    Yet Chicago City council did nothing.    What other environmental issues are they turning a blind eye to?

Environmental groups in my state are all over the Ailanthus issue.   There are road closures while trees are removed.   There is spraying programs.    Literature and education programs.

And in Chicago these trees are to the point of disabling people and the Council and Mayor do nothing ?
Talk of environmentalism, but no action.    Or maybe it's just they won't put money where their mouth is.

/pay up
//at least 12 million


So who do you sue if you get hurt in a forest?
 
2014-03-29 01:24:28 PM

RectalFury: Nature always has the right of way.


This type of tree is commonly called "Tree of Heaven".

Will the city argue it was "an act of God"?

/your name scares the shiat outta me
 
2014-03-29 01:27:21 PM

Kit Fister: ReverendJynxed: So they knew it was a problem and they continued to ride under it? Wear a helmet next time chump.

This. Life happens, people get hurt. You don't get a payout because you're a moron. Or rather, you shouldn't.


I'm reminded of a few Calvin and Hobbes strips where Calvin took a similar attitude. Hobbes invariably took the opportunity to demonstrate how "life happens." Calvin learned empathy.

You chumps wouldn't. My guess, life already "happened" to you and when nobody kissed your boo-boo you turned sour inside.

Nobody helped you, so f*ck everybody else, right? Oh, right... you didn't need any help.

Right.
 
2014-03-29 01:27:25 PM
That was one pissed off tree...

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-29 01:27:28 PM

Kit Fister: toadist: I don't live in Chicago, but I googled City council and they have like 50 council members who are all Democrats?    I think the Mayor is a Democrat.

Democrats,   especially here in Fark are always proclaiming environmentalism.   So Chicago had reports for years that these trees were a problem.   AND the trees in question are invasive species.    Yet Chicago City council did nothing.    What other environmental issues are they turning a blind eye to?

Environmental groups in my state are all over the Ailanthus issue.   There are road closures while trees are removed.   There is spraying programs.    Literature and education programs.

And in Chicago these trees are to the point of disabling people and the Council and Mayor do nothing ?
Talk of environmentalism, but no action.    Or maybe it's just they won't put money where their mouth is.

/pay up
//at least 12 million

So who do you sue if you get hurt in a forest?


Smokey, of course.
 
2014-03-29 01:27:57 PM
+1 for sappy tag
 
2014-03-29 01:29:17 PM

toadist: I don't live in Chicago, but I googled City council and they have like 50 council members who are all Democrats?    I think the Mayor is a Democrat.

Democrats,   especially here in Fark are always proclaiming environmentalism.   So Chicago had reports for years that these trees were a problem.   AND the trees in question are invasive species.    Yet Chicago City council did nothing.    What other environmental issues are they turning a blind eye to?

Environmental groups in my state are all over the Ailanthus issue.   There are road closures while trees are removed.   There is spraying programs.    Literature and education programs.

And in Chicago these trees are to the point of disabling people and the Council and Mayor do nothing ?
Talk of environmentalism, but no action.    Or maybe it's just they won't put money where their mouth is.

/pay up
//at least 12 million


Everything looks like a nail to you, doesn't it?
 
2014-03-29 01:31:25 PM

Badmoodman: That was one pissed off tree...


In gif form, Dorothy looks like she's enjoying that a little too much.

/I'll be in my bunk
 
2014-03-29 01:36:12 PM

Kit Fister: duffblue: Kit Fister: ReverendJynxed: So they knew it was a problem and they continued to ride under it? Wear a helmet next time chump.

This. Life happens, people get hurt. You don't get a payout because you're a moron. Or rather, you shouldn't.

Somebody didn't read the article. What do you think this is, fark?

Oh no, I read the article, and I still say that people accept risks of injury just by stepping out of their door. The world is not safe. Get over it.


there's a difference between unknown risks and known risks.
city had data/info that could have mitigated this risk and acted negligently accordingly.
 
2014-03-29 01:40:23 PM
It was a cyclist. Nail a medal on the tree and call it a day.
 
2014-03-29 01:42:32 PM

brimed03: Kit Fister: ReverendJynxed: So they knew it was a problem and they continued to ride under it? Wear a helmet next time chump.

This. Life happens, people get hurt. You don't get a payout because you're a moron. Or rather, you shouldn't.

I'm reminded of a few Calvin and Hobbes strips where Calvin took a similar attitude. Hobbes invariably took the opportunity to demonstrate how "life happens." Calvin learned empathy.

You chumps wouldn't. My guess, life already "happened" to you and when nobody kissed your boo-boo you turned sour inside.

Nobody helped you, so f*ck everybody else, right? Oh, right... you didn't need any help.

Right.


I feel empathy for the guy because he got hurt. That doesn't translate into anything more than "I'm sorry, and let me help you get to an ambulance", not "here, let me agree to let the city use my tax dollars to pay you millions because you got hurt by a tree."
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-03-29 01:48:41 PM
The value of a life in America is generally considered to be a few million dollars. One figure I have seen used in transportation planning is $90,000 per year, adjusted for quality of life. A 40 year old might have 30 quality years left and be worth around $3 million. There are other figures in the same ballpark. In this case there is quantifiable medical care to add on.

In a lawsuit against a city it normally doesn't matter whether you argue negligence, complete negligence, super duper negligence, malice, or premeditated tree breaking. Cities are not normally liable for punitive damages, on the theory that innocent taxpayers rather than evil arborists would be punished. Actual damages are unaffected by motive.
 
2014-03-29 01:55:21 PM
In Chicago, bicyclists can do no wrong. Stop signs are an option for them. Red lights are an option for them. Passing cars on the right at an intersection is something they won't think twice about. But if one of them gets injured due to their own stupidity, it's always someone else's fault....ALWAYS...even if the other party is nature, apparently.
 
2014-03-29 01:58:43 PM

Russ1642: Do cities normally carry insurance for this stuff or do they pay out of pocket?


Chicago is in a habit of losing law suits and having to pay out millions of bucks.  They can afford it.. greedy farkers have lots of money stashed away.
 
2014-03-29 01:59:39 PM

duffblue: 6 million seems low for being paralyzed.


How much more would make him walk again?
 
2014-03-29 02:05:32 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: duffblue: 6 million seems low for being paralyzed.

How much more would make him walk again?


How much more would it take to finish the job?
 
2014-03-29 02:09:25 PM

bim1154: Russ1642: Do cities normally carry insurance for this stuff or do they pay out of pocket?

Chicago is in a habit of losing law suits and having to pay out millions of bucks.  They can afford it.. greedy farkers have lots of money stashed away.


Isn't Chicago shutting down a shiatload of schools because of a billion dollar deficit? Seems they could have made better use of their money spending the few hundred to get the tree trimmed or cut down than $6 million in a lawsuit.
 
2014-03-29 02:12:00 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: duffblue: 6 million seems low for being paralyzed.

How much more would make him walk again?


The estimated price for the Human Assisted Limb exoskeleton was $4200, but I don't know if they managed to produce any for that amount.
 
2014-03-29 02:32:16 PM

duffblue: 6 million seems low for being paralyzed.


Jimmy John's bicycle delivery guy. Sounds harsh, but they base that partly on loss of future expected earnings, which in his case was not much.

/Wonder how much tree maintenance they could have done for $6 million? Penny-wise and pound-foolish to skimp.
 
2014-03-29 02:35:50 PM

Boojum2k: bim1154: Russ1642: Do cities normally carry insurance for this stuff or do they pay out of pocket?

Chicago is in a habit of losing law suits and having to pay out millions of bucks.  They can afford it.. greedy farkers have lots of money stashed away.

Isn't Chicago shutting down a shiatload of schools because of a billion dollar deficit? Seems they could have made better use of their money spending the few hundred to get the tree trimmed or cut down than $6 million in a lawsuit.


I know they were doing something last year.  To what extent, I stopped paying attention to it.  I know the teachers and parents were all up in arms about it.  But seriously, as I said, their track record for getting sued and losing is pretty much the norm for them.  If it isn't tree limbs, it's torture reparations, wrongful conviction reparations, or any other number of things.
 
2014-03-29 02:47:12 PM
Yep, came here for all the celebratory posts. City got repeated complaints about a dangerous tree, did nothing, and eventually a branch fell on someone and crippled him for life. But, hey, it was a biker! Thank heavens it wasn't a tragic outcome, like having it fall on a pedestrian, or, God forbid, a driver...
 
2014-03-29 03:07:35 PM

lindalouwho: This type of tree is commonly called "Tree of Heaven".

Will the city argue it was "an act of God"?


IMHO, when you're paralyzed by a "Tree of Heaven", God doesn't like you very much.

/Waiting for the "kind and benevolent God" folks to arrive...
 
2014-03-29 03:11:09 PM
As someone who had those farking trees on my property back in Ohio, I would like to remind everyone that they farking stink like hell. Horrible to get rid of, too. Took several tries to get rid of the one closest to the house, and since I don't care about that house anymore, I wouldn't be surprised if it came back.

Any tree that can go from a small, tiny plant to a full-grown sapling within a couple of a months, and then outpaces the other weeping willow sapling in the yard, is spawned from the ninth level of Gardening Hell, right next to the old lady who goes through each flat of flowers and transfers their trays so that she has only the best, and takes all day about it.

/twitches
//no, I don't have any latent issues...
 
2014-03-29 03:42:58 PM
I'm waiting for this to happen with a dead tree on the easement in front of my house.  I've requested removal with the city multiple times.  The tree is marked for removal and has been for two years now.  I didn't want this somehow to be negligence on my part so I filed a freedom of information request to get the records of the tree being marked for removal and the multiple times i've called it in.  Hopefully this will be the kick in the ass they apparently need.
 
2014-03-29 03:55:56 PM

surewewang: I'm waiting for this to happen with a dead tree on the easement in front of my house.  I've requested removal with the city multiple times.  The tree is marked for removal and has been for two years now.  I didn't want this somehow to be negligence on my part so I filed a freedom of information request to get the records of the tree being marked for removal and the multiple times i've called it in.  Hopefully this will be the kick in the ass they apparently need.


You could try calling local TV; this is the sort of easy story that producers love. If you can find a bunch of other trees, they'd be even more interested. That thing gets on TV, they'll have it down in a day.
 
2014-03-29 08:10:47 PM
injured by a fallen branch from a parkway tree that was the subject of repeated complaints to the city

Then no surprise there. Perhaps this will serve as a wake-up call for lazy public servants and dumbass political leaders who won't properly fund local government.
 
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