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(Slate)   Attention, mothers who equate colors with a non-existent anti-feminist agenda: IT IS OKAY FOR YOUR DAUGHTER TO LIKE AND WEAR PINK   (slate.com) divider line 89
    More: PSA, political agenda, Kid 'n Play, international sanctions, gender roles  
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2014-03-29 09:48:49 AM  
 
2014-03-29 10:35:40 AM  
It's not about gender, it's about consumerism.  That's it.  Get over your vagina.
 
2014-03-29 10:52:56 AM  
Just try to stop my three year old girl from picking out pink. Or yellow.
 
2014-03-29 11:36:34 AM  
It's all about the parent's ego, not the child's.
 
2014-03-29 12:11:26 PM  
Feminists invent problems to be victimized by? Say it isn't so. That's so phallocratic.
 
2014-03-29 12:56:12 PM  
Oh its slate, who quite possibly have the dumbest writers for their website on the entire internet.
 
2014-03-29 12:56:20 PM  
Shut the f*ck up, Lindy West.
 
2014-03-29 12:58:12 PM  
Maybe these women should stop with the man-hate already. I'm tired of being mistreated by women making shiat up to keep us under their thumb. It's abuse, plain and simple.
 
2014-03-29 12:59:58 PM  
Can we stop paying attention to people who have nothing better to do than manufacture outrage? Feminism in 2014 is a joke. First world problems.
 
2014-03-29 01:01:42 PM  
One of my former co-workers is going through this with her daughter. She wants her daughter to grow up to be an engineer so she keeps buying her construction toys and refuses to buy anything pink. The daughter, who is five, just wants to dress up like a princess, which her relatives gladly indulge her to the dismay of her mother. Irony is when the girl grows up, she's probably  going to have all kinds of negative associations with engineering and a lifelong attraction to the forbidden "girly" items. There are ways to encourage children to be open to different opportunities but using them as proxies in an imaginary gender war is bad for everybody.
 
2014-03-29 01:01:54 PM  
BTW, fathers, it's ok for your sons to like and wear pink too.
 
2014-03-29 01:02:49 PM  
Well...that tarded writer missed the point entirety. Bravo!
 
2014-03-29 01:03:07 PM  
I'm just annoyed with the lack of freedom and the fact that people will readily those who don't conform.  It's also pretty stupid that people think that color options are governed by some some kind of pre-ordained, immutable law.
 
2014-03-29 01:03:40 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-03-29 01:04:37 PM  

steamingpile: Oh its slate, who quite possibly have the dumbest writers for their website on the entire internet.


Well not the dumbest but they run a close second to:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-03-29 01:05:58 PM  
ohhh, another feminism article from Slate how bold and original of them.  No thanks.
 
2014-03-29 01:07:09 PM  
Does "fark" have a 2nd meaning of "misogynist"?
 
2014-03-29 01:07:34 PM  
it's also OK for your boy to wear pink, have a princess party. WTF does it matter if they're happy with it themselves? It's also OK for girls to like transformers, wear blue and want to play with power tool toys.

The mother's reaction against pink is as much to do with social conditioning as her daughter's wish to wear it.

steamingpile: Oh its slate, who quite possibly have the dumbest writers for their website on the entire internet.


have you even read the Daily FeMail?

edmo: No one cared prior to WWI


Because everything was in B&W. Duh. ;-)
 
2014-03-29 01:07:41 PM  

Mrs.Sharpier: Well...that tarded writer missed the point entirety. Bravo!


Care to enlighten us as to what the point is, then, or just sniping?
 
2014-03-29 01:08:23 PM  
Like practically every modern thing, blame marketing and advertising
 
2014-03-29 01:11:23 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Maybe these women should stop with the man-hate already. I'm tired of being mistreated by women making shiat up to keep us under their thumb. It's abuse, plain and simple.


ummm.... where in TFA, specifically, is all this horrific oppression that you are so offended at?

Oh, that's right, there isn't. Now, quit making shiat up and make me a sammich.
 
2014-03-29 01:11:48 PM  

hasty ambush: steamingpile: Oh its slate, who quite possibly have the dumbest writers for their website on the entire internet.

Well not the dumbest but they run a close second to:


I take it neither of you two have heard of Jezebel.
 
2014-03-29 01:12:42 PM  
img2.wikia.nocookie.net

Aren't we all?
 
2014-03-29 01:15:22 PM  
It's not that I'm against pink... An overwhelming amount of ANY color is annoying. I personally like finding girly stuff for my daughter in purples, blues, and yellows because it's variety. Pink is only annoying because SO MUCH girl stuff is pink! We bought a new house last year that had a pink bedroom, so we were excited because it was already decorated for a little girl. But after a month, our daughter asked to have her yellow walls back and decorate it like her room in the last house. Mostly yellow, with sky blue, lilac, and light pink accents. I don't care if she picks pink on her own... It's when there's no other choice that it's annoying.
 
2014-03-29 01:17:05 PM  

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: BTW, fathers, it's ok for your sons to like and wear pink too.


My older son (6) loves pink, and likes to put little heart stickers on the Lego bridges he engineers and builds. This morning my younger son (4) asked for "the yellow princess doll" for his birthday so he could play with one of his girl friends at preschool since she's not really into running around the playground banging her head into things and smashing Matchbox race cars like he is.

Whatever floats your boats, little guys. Just be creative and have fun.
 
2014-03-29 01:17:30 PM  

EngineerAU: One of my former co-workers is going through this with her daughter. She wants her daughter to grow up to be an engineer so she keeps buying her construction toys and refuses to buy anything pink. The daughter, who is five, just wants to dress up like a princess, which her relatives gladly indulge her to the dismay of her mother. Irony is when the girl grows up, she's probably  going to have all kinds of negative associations with engineering and a lifelong attraction to the forbidden "girly" items. There are ways to encourage children to be open to different opportunities but using them as proxies in an imaginary gender war is bad for everybody.


I was given lotsa pink, girly things and Barbie dolls when I was a little kid back in the 1960s. I also was given Matchbox & Hot Wheels cars and a Lego set (which my brothers also had). The brothers and I used to hit each other with the Hot Wheels tracks when we weren't racing our cars, and built stuff like stadiums with our Lego sets. Dad took us to lotsa baseball & football games. Result: I still like pink, girly things AND going to baseball and football games.
 
2014-03-29 01:17:52 PM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: I take it neither of you two have heard of Jezebel.


Not much on the internet sets off my Poe's Law detector like Jezebel. I'm sure half of it is sincere and half is click bait, but hell if I can tell which half is which.
 
2014-03-29 01:20:19 PM  

Lorelle: I was given lotsa pink, girly things and Barbie dolls when I was a little kid back in the 1960s. I also was given Matchbox & Hot Wheels cars and a Lego set (which my brothers also had). The brothers and I used to hit each other with the Hot Wheels tracks when we weren't racing our cars, and built stuff like stadiums with our Lego sets. Dad took us to lotsa baseball & football games. Result: I still like pink, girly things AND going to baseball and football games.


Balance is a great thing.
 
2014-03-29 01:21:28 PM  
They're pretty much required to love pink, or there will be nothing available for them to purchase except Transformers.
 
2014-03-29 01:24:19 PM  
But...but...but Sinfest!!
sinfest.net
 
2014-03-29 01:25:24 PM  
My daughter likes to wear pink girly outfits and play with her construction tool toys.

Just like Daddy.

/I keed
 
2014-03-29 01:26:57 PM  

hasty ambush: steamingpile: Oh its slate, who quite possibly have the dumbest writers for their website on the entire internet.

Well not the dumbest but they run a close second to:


Oh yeah almost forgot about that site, anytime its linked I close it the second I see the name.
 
2014-03-29 01:26:58 PM  
It'd be nice if your article was more than just a retelling of someone else's article with some personal anecdotes sprinkled around..
 
2014-03-29 01:27:02 PM  
OK, I'm interested in the book but very doubtful that it wasn't *at all* a signifier before the 20th century. There's that passage in "Little Women" where Amy gives the boy/girl twins pink and blue ribbons, in the "French fashion," and in one of Elizabeth Barrett Browning's letters, she mentions her maid decorating a crib in pink ribbons since she was convinced Browning's baby would be a girl (it wasn't, but no word on whether they changed the decorations). I'm not saying pink was *exclusively* female then, but the association did exist.
 
2014-03-29 01:27:18 PM  
Someone give the writer a knife please. Her instinct will kick in. The she'll start making sandwiches instead of typing up such tripe.
 
2014-03-29 01:27:30 PM  

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: BTW, fathers, it's ok for your sons to like and wear pink too.


What's interesting is the duality of the arbitrary color scheme. It's acceptable for women to want to be more like men (by wearing blue, enjoying sports, having a hobby that involves working with one's hands, etc) but not the other way around (wearing lighter colors, looking for careers involving nurturing - like nursing, or not enjoying physical activities). Then he's queer and in need of some serious re-education to be more manly.

/I'd recommend touring a steel mill
 
2014-03-29 01:27:44 PM  

FDR Jones: Mrs.Sharpier: Well...that tarded writer missed the point entirety. Bravo!

Care to enlighten us as to what the point is, then, or just sniping?


Allison Benedikt seems to think that parents are reluctant to purchase gender specific toys and clothes because it forces their children to conform.

That's not really the reason. It's a reaction against marketing and consumer based advertising.

Pink Bic pens, Pink Legos etc. it's all another ploy to get people to buy shiat they don't need. It's not really even about feminism at this point.

Plus plastic toys just suck.
 
2014-03-29 01:28:14 PM  
After reading TFA, I can see many have haven't and missed the point.
 
2014-03-29 01:30:20 PM  

edmo: No one cared prior to WWI


Well, no shiat, the world was in black and white back then.  Duh.
 
2014-03-29 01:32:27 PM  

Infobahn: After reading TFA, I can see many have haven't and missed the point.


You must be new here.

Account created: 2003-12-28 12:45:47 (10 years ago)

Um, yeah, you have no excuse.
 
2014-03-29 01:32:39 PM  
I don't hate pink, but I swear to goodness that almost of all my daughter's clothes have at least a pink accent and it's not like we have done it on purpose.
 
2014-03-29 01:33:16 PM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: hasty ambush: steamingpile: Oh its slate, who quite possibly have the dumbest writers for their website on the entire internet.

Well not the dumbest but they run a close second to:

I take it neither of you two have heard of Jezebel.


I concede, you are correct.
 
2014-03-29 01:34:10 PM  
FTA:"Why is it any likelier that your daughter is going to end up thinking that a prince will save her than it is that my son will think he should kill bad guys? Why is one of those fantasies considered harmless and the other damaging? "

Ummm, I would consider them both damaging.
Not being willing or able to act on your own behalf is a problem.
Killing people as a first or best solution to their being "bad" is a problem. (c.f. article on pulling guns on underage water-drinker)

Neither of these fantasies is anything to raise your children with.
 
2014-03-29 01:36:28 PM  
Side note: my daughter loves dinosaurs, and pink and purple. Finding pink and purple dinosaur stuff can be hard.
 
2014-03-29 01:41:39 PM  
Even when I agree I still wish Slate could produce somehing well thought out. Come for the tittillating headline, leave for the shallow thought process.
 
2014-03-29 01:53:20 PM  

Ashlea: Side note: my daughter loves dinosaurs, and pink and purple. Finding pink and purple dinosaur stuff can be hard.


How about buying some great dino stuff -- but on rainy days, having a craft day with her so she can make her own pink/purple dino creatures? May be a fun and creative way to pass the time.
 
2014-03-29 02:02:14 PM  

uttertosh: ReverendJynxed: Maybe these women should stop with the man-hate already. I'm tired of being mistreated by women making shiat up to keep us under their thumb. It's abuse, plain and simple.

ummm.... where in TFA, specifically, is all this horrific oppression that you are so offended at?

Oh, that's right, there isn't. Now, quit making shiat up and make me a sammich.


There's an article?
 
2014-03-29 02:03:35 PM  
A slate article I agree with?

What the fark, is it Opposite Day already?
 
2014-03-29 02:06:12 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Maybe these women should stop with the man-hate already. I'm tired of being mistreated by women making shiat up to keep us under their thumb. It's abuse, plain and simple.


duffblue: Can we stop paying attention to people who have nothing better to do than manufacture outrage? Feminism in 2014 is a joke. First world problems.


1/10
 
2014-03-29 02:10:16 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: BTW, fathers, it's ok for your sons to like and wear pink too.

What's interesting is the duality of the arbitrary color scheme. It's acceptable for women to want to be more like men (by wearing blue, enjoying sports, having a hobby that involves working with one's hands, etc) but not the other way around (wearing lighter colors, looking for careers involving nurturing - like nursing, or not enjoying physical activities). Then he's queer and in need of some serious re-education to be more manly.

/I'd recommend touring a steel mill


God forbid that he throw like a girl.
 
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