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(Baton Rouge Advocate)   If you live in Louisiana and recently filled up with Exxon gasoline, you might want to save your receipt for the upcoming class action suit   (theadvocate.com) divider line 32
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2014-03-29 10:16:03 AM  
"What we think is something got in the fuel that shouldn't have gotten in,"

No shiat.
 
2014-03-29 10:45:27 AM  
So I get a coupon for a couple gallons and the lawyers rake in several mil? Nah.
 
2014-03-29 10:47:02 AM  
FTA:  "Commissioner Mike Strain"

Sounds like the right man for the job...
 
2014-03-29 10:48:34 AM  
I haven't bought gas from Exxon since the Valdez spill.

/I'm old.
 
2014-03-29 10:49:29 AM  
BP for the winning!
 
2014-03-29 10:53:49 AM  
So, they will just raise the price of the gas to cover any costs.

Or, they could pay out the settlement with about 38 minutes of profits from

Or, they could just fight it in court for 25 years like the Valdez spill damage award because fark you.
 
2014-03-29 10:57:45 AM  
Some of them don't come with spare tires either.  It makes it great when you are out in bumpkinsville and have a blowout.
 
2014-03-29 11:01:05 AM  
You know...I've never given much thought to the safety of our fuel supply. I just assume everything will be fine when I fill up my vehicles, because I have other things to think about. Interesting.

/Hold me.
 
2014-03-29 11:02:38 AM  
Ronnie Richard of Baton Rouge said he wasn't concerned about buying Exxon gasoline.

Well, sheee-it.  If Ronnie says it's OK what's the fuss all about?
 
2014-03-29 11:06:19 AM  
Bad gas?  Whoop dee doo! I got bad gas last week.  Of course, it was my fault. I know I should not have eaten at that Taco Bell. . .
 
2014-03-29 11:13:52 AM  
...or maybe, possibly, the company that ships it to the service stations might have been careless about what they put in the tankers...
 
2014-03-29 11:23:50 AM  
meow said the dog: BP for the winning!

Chevron for the win!

/my only beef with the Chevron stations around here is that no one carries 91 octane.
//it's just 87, 89, 93
///my car's owner's manual kindly requests 90 octane and above
 
2014-03-29 11:27:26 AM  

Nabb1: I haven't bought gas from Exxon since the Valdez spill.

/I'm old.


I try to avoid them, and also Shell for something they did way back when. However it's just a symbolic gesture since as TFA points out:

Exxon makes gasoline for a number of other companies at its Baton Rouge refinery, not just for stations that carry its brand name - blending the fuel to the specifications of a gasoline distributor, Altazan said.

By the way Exxon, how's that cleanup going?
 
2014-03-29 11:33:19 AM  
They have to reimburse their customers for 5 million gallons of gas, plus fix the engines of maybe 250,000 vehicles.
That's going to cost Exxon maybe 10 million bucks.  5 million if their good lawyers aren't busy that day.
 
2014-03-29 11:34:32 AM  
Hey, that's why you always smell the gas to make sure it's good gas, Jack!
 
2014-03-29 11:42:36 AM  

FizixJunkee: meow said the dog: BP for the winning!

Chevron for the win!

/my only beef with the Chevron stations around here is that no one carries 91 octane.
//it's just 87, 89, 93
///my car's owner's manual kindly requests 90 octane and above


You will be fine with 93. Higher octane prevents pre detonation, it's a must in turbocharged cars. However Hyundai and other manufactumanufacturers off turbocharged engines that can run on 87.
 
2014-03-29 11:42:42 AM  

Nabb1: I haven't bought gas from Exxon since the Valdez spill.

/I'm old.


Yeah, right.

What's funny is I saw about 5 different news stories about the Valdez spill recently and they all said Alaska is still suffering from it, but not one of them said how.
 
2014-03-29 11:43:20 AM  

You Idiots: So I get a coupon for a couple gallons and the lawyers rake in several mil? Nah.


I just got a letter stating that I was part of a class action lawsuit against a major health care provider (uhh, ok...), not sure how much it was settled for, but my check was for $2.27.
I am guessing the attorneys made a couple of bucks more.
 
2014-03-29 12:01:22 PM  

gfid: Nabb1: I haven't bought gas from Exxon since the Valdez spill.

/I'm old.

Yeah, right.

What's funny is I saw about 5 different news stories about the Valdez spill recently and they all said Alaska is still suffering from it, but not one of them said how.


What's funny is I saw several new stories about the Valdez spill recently and all of them showed several ways the area is still suffering, like increased mutation/defects in local fauna, standing pools of crude never cleaned up, blobs of crude on the bottom of the bay poisoning all sorts of critters and plants mollusks and bivalves... And those are just some of the biological  problems.  There are still economic problems caused or exacerbated by the spill.
 
2014-03-29 12:05:39 PM  
FTFA: "As for the problems motorists are experiencing, "There may be a misfire, or the vehicle will be hard to start," said Altazan, who also hosts a radio show about auto repairs on WJBO. "In some cases, the vehicle won't start at all."

Sounds like diesel fuel to me.
 
2014-03-29 12:06:16 PM  

Aquapope: gfid: Nabb1: I haven't bought gas from Exxon since the Valdez spill.

/I'm old.

Yeah, right.

What's funny is I saw about 5 different news stories about the Valdez spill recently and they all said Alaska is still suffering from it, but not one of them said how.

What's funny is I saw several new stories about the Valdez spill recently and all of them showed several ways the area is still suffering, like increased mutation/defects in local fauna, standing pools of crude never cleaned up, blobs of crude on the bottom of the bay poisoning all sorts of critters and plants mollusks and bivalves... And those are just some of the biological  problems.  There are still economic problems caused or exacerbated by the spill.



Ha ha..... too funny.   Mel Gibson is a farker !
 
2014-03-29 12:14:38 PM  

netcentric: Aquapope: gfid: Nabb1: I haven't bought gas from Exxon since the Valdez spill.

/I'm old.

Yeah, right.

What's funny is I saw about 5 different news stories about the Valdez spill recently and they all said Alaska is still suffering from it, but not one of them said how.

What's funny is I saw several new stories about the Valdez spill recently and all of them showed several ways the area is still suffering, like increased mutation/defects in local fauna, standing pools of crude never cleaned up, blobs of crude on the bottom of the bay poisoning all sorts of critters and plants mollusks and bivalves... And those are just some of the biological  problems.  There are still economic problems caused or exacerbated by the spill.


Ha ha..... too funny.   Mel Gibson is a farker !


Somebody's blaming the Valdez spill on Jews?
 
2014-03-29 12:17:27 PM  

duffblue: FizixJunkee: meow said the dog: BP for the winning!

Chevron for the win!

/my only beef with the Chevron stations around here is that no one carries 91 octane.
//it's just 87, 89, 93
///my car's owner's manual kindly requests 90 octane and above

You will be fine with 93. Higher octane prevents pre detonation, it's a must in turbocharged cars. However Hyundai and other manufactumanufacturers off turbocharged engines that can run on 87.


Yup.

Used to be, "premium" gas would be 91 octane* in the US (well, most places in the US, higher altitudes this may vary). Then for some reason a lot of stations started running 92 or 93 octane as their premium fuel... my guess is it had more to do with marketing than anything else. I see some stations that have 91, others with 92, and some with 93.

A car will run fine on higher octane ratings than needed, you just won't see any added benefit from it (you could put 108 octane racing fuel in your car; it would work fine but it wouldn't be any more powerful). However, if you run lower octane than the maker requires the car is likely to de-tune itself slightly to avoid damaging predetonation (knock).


*(R+M)/2 method
 
2014-03-29 12:24:35 PM  
spike the tank with 2 gallons of n-butanol and you'll clean your injectors, cylinders, valves, and exhaust system.
 
2014-03-29 12:27:27 PM  

Aquapope: What's funny is I saw several new stories about the Valdez spill recently and all of them showed several ways the area is still suffering, like increased mutation/defects in local fauna, standing pools of crude never cleaned up, blobs of crude on the bottom of the bay poisoning all sorts of critters and plants mollusks and bivalves... And those are just some of the biological  problems.  There are still economic problems caused or exacerbated by the spill.


and new microbes capable of cleaning up or producing crude oil, gasoline, diesel. this was a black swan event, buddy. don't bet against it, use it.
 
2014-03-29 12:29:34 PM  

duffblue: However Hyundai and other manufactumanufacturers off turbocharged engines that can run on 87.


when engines form their own hit squad mafias, you lose. especially when the pit boss stutters.
 
2014-03-29 12:54:30 PM  

Aquapope: They have to reimburse their customers for 5 million gallons of gas, plus fix the engines of maybe 250,000 vehicles.
That's going to cost Exxon maybe 10 million bucks.  5 million if their good lawyers aren't busy that day.


Nope.

If you read the fine print in the article again you will notice that they mention "valid claims"

So you will need to have not only a receipt from a station that bought gasoline during the affected time, you will also need to have an independent analysis of the gasoline and gas tank in your car to ensure that it was the gas, not your car. Then they will pay for the repairs up to the standard cost of repair. They won't reimburse for investigation costs so the hundreds your mechanic spent trying to figure out what was wrong with the car or the costs of the gasoline analysis. So most people won't be made whole but they will have reimbursed the valid claims!
 
2014-03-29 01:06:09 PM  

IanMoone: Aquapope: They have to reimburse their customers for 5 million gallons of gas, plus fix the engines of maybe 250,000 vehicles.
That's going to cost Exxon maybe 10 million bucks.  5 million if their good lawyers aren't busy that day.

Nope.

If you read the fine print in the article again you will notice that they mention "valid claims"

So you will need to have not only a receipt from a station that bought gasoline during the affected time, you will also need to have an independent analysis of the gasoline and gas tank in your car to ensure that it was the gas, not your car. Then they will pay for the repairs up to the standard cost of repair. They won't reimburse for investigation costs so the hundreds your mechanic spent trying to figure out what was wrong with the car or the costs of the gasoline analysis. So most people won't be made whole but they will have reimbursed the valid claims!


Yes but once they accept and pay on the valid claim, they accept responsibility right? Take that to court and have them pay the rest plus damages.
 
2014-03-29 01:46:32 PM  
Why class action?
Why not just use the small claims court system. A $5000.00 suit or 2 to cover up to $10,000 in damages for engine repairs, and all of the other stuff you need to prove that this issue was caused by Exxon. It would cost Exxon more to send lawyers to defend each suit than to pay claims so they would probably be no shows, and even if they did show up, if you have the documentation, they will lose anyway, and the filing fee is $50, and no lawyer neccessary.

Whether or not Exxon would actually pay the small claims action is of course different..., but getting a settlement in your favor seems simpler in this case through small claims.

It seems like the class action cases are now working too well for the companies being sued, as they can now just do arbitration, mediation and settlements that pay lawyers and not plantiffs, and even then the settlements then just get postponed ad infinitum.
 
2014-03-29 04:15:20 PM  

duffblue: FizixJunkee: meow said the dog: BP for the winning!

Chevron for the win!

/my only beef with the Chevron stations around here is that no one carries 91 octane.
//it's just 87, 89, 93
///my car's owner's manual kindly requests 90 octane and above

You will be fine with 93. Higher octane prevents pre detonation, it's a must in turbocharged cars. However Hyundai and other manufactumanufacturers off turbocharged engines that can run on 87.


If your car says it REQUIRES 90 or higher, you'll have to use 90/91/92/93 no matter what. If it says only that it is recommended, 89 would be fine. You might lose a little power, but I doubt it would be noticeable with such a low number change. I'm a mechanic who specializes in European cars, and my own cars are all turbocharged Volvos. Volvo recommends, but doesn't require, premium in them. If I use regular, there's a noticeable power loss. Mid grade is usually okay. The only one I won't use anything other than premium in is my 98 S70, because I had the computer tuned to allow a good bit more boost. While the computer is still designed to react to knock by reducing boost and retarding ignition, I'm paranoid about the initial detonation events with the higher boost before the computer can react.
 
2014-03-29 04:29:37 PM  

akula: duffblue: FizixJunkee: meow said the dog: BP for the winning!

Chevron for the win!

/my only beef with the Chevron stations around here is that no one carries 91 octane.
//it's just 87, 89, 93
///my car's owner's manual kindly requests 90 octane and above

You will be fine with 93. Higher octane prevents pre detonation, it's a must in turbocharged cars. However Hyundai and other manufactumanufacturers off turbocharged engines that can run on 87.

Yup.

Used to be, "premium" gas would be 91 octane* in the US (well, most places in the US, higher altitudes this may vary). Then for some reason a lot of stations started running 92 or 93 octane as their premium fuel... my guess is it had more to do with marketing than anything else. I see some stations that have 91, others with 92, and some with 93.

A car will run fine on higher octane ratings than needed, you just won't see any added benefit from it (you could put 108 octane racing fuel in your car; it would work fine but it wouldn't be any more powerful). However, if you run lower octane than the maker requires the car is likely to de-tune itself slightly to avoid damaging predetonation (knock).


*(R+M)/2 method


Lower octane fuels contain more energy though.

/the more you know
 
2014-03-30 07:55:00 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: akula: duffblue: FizixJunkee: meow said the dog: BP for the winning!

Chevron for the win!

/my only beef with the Chevron stations around here is that no one carries 91 octane.
//it's just 87, 89, 93
///my car's owner's manual kindly requests 90 octane and above

You will be fine with 93. Higher octane prevents pre detonation, it's a must in turbocharged cars. However Hyundai and other manufactumanufacturers off turbocharged engines that can run on 87.

Yup.

Used to be, "premium" gas would be 91 octane* in the US (well, most places in the US, higher altitudes this may vary). Then for some reason a lot of stations started running 92 or 93 octane as their premium fuel... my guess is it had more to do with marketing than anything else. I see some stations that have 91, others with 92, and some with 93.

A car will run fine on higher octane ratings than needed, you just won't see any added benefit from it (you could put 108 octane racing fuel in your car; it would work fine but it wouldn't be any more powerful). However, if you run lower octane than the maker requires the car is likely to de-tune itself slightly to avoid damaging predetonation (knock).


*(R+M)/2 method

Lower octane fuels contain more energy though.

/the more you know


Citation Needed.
 
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