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(Daily Mail)   Get pulled out of your car at gunpoint by Alcoholic Beverage Control agents who thought you bought beer while underage when you were actually just buying sparkling water? You can bet that's a $40 million dollar lawsuit   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 178
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2014-03-29 11:03:39 AM  

RockofAges: Cerebral Ballsy: R.A.Danny: Cerebral Ballsy: ZAZ: If you file a $40 million lawsuit for being arrested, you should automatically lose and pay your victims' legal fees. Even if the arrest causes you anxiety. Even if the arrest causes you death. It's an absurd amount and the legal system should treat it as a frivolous claim.

If I were on this jury, I'd give the victim $500, tops. This lawsuit bullshiat has got to stop. We're becoming a nation of professional victims.

It's not about her getting the money, it's about the perpetrators paying the money.

The peeps don't pay any money, are you people high? The taxpayers pay this money.

Jesus. Do you guys think there's a magical fountain of money at the police station?

I agree it shouldn't have happened but her tears aren't worth 40 million. She's fine.

Maybe the "new mustang cruisers" can wait a few years, and the old pistols don't need laser targeting sights. Yeah, I think the PD can go down a few belt loops if this is the "value for money" they are offering to "serve and protect" their citizenry, their only sole duty. Like I said, I'm suggesting $20,000 to $30,000. Maybe fire these two morons and give her half of their annual salaries? Win / win for the taxpayer.


they always ask for the moon. it's standard procedure. they will probably get 100k at most from it if they win at all.
 
2014-03-29 11:03:47 AM  
Wouldn't it be fun if we got rid of qualified immunity?
 
2014-03-29 11:04:33 AM  

redmid17: Cerebral Ballsy: jso2897: labman: Again? Just how often does this happen?

It's the same article - complete with the same thread, full of GEDs in law who never heard of punitive damages.
Pete doesn't seem to have taught Repeat anything in the last few days.

This is the Daily Fail. She probably saw a cop cruiser in her rearview mirror and nothing else happened.

You are quite the troll


Trolling is a art.
 
2014-03-29 11:08:56 AM  

dukeblue219: Satanic_Hamster: Let's say the cops were right; she was underage and purchasing booze.  So their plan was to point a shiatload of loaded weapons at a farking KID just for buying alcohol?

Sure, why not? In graduate school in an engineering building we had a professor accused (rightly) of misappropriating a few hundred thousand dollars. A legit crime worthy of a search warrant, no doubt. Instead, 2 fully armed and armored swat teams, followed by uniformed state police, stormed the building and held everyone they found there at 8am at gunpoint. We're talking about 21-25 year old engineering students and their professors who aren't even connected to this case. It was a big learning moment for me about how the police view the public.


It's not how they view the public that's the problem. It's how they view themselves. Heroic tough guy defenders of justice in a world gone badly wrong. In their minds because of who they are they need and deserve all that equipment.
 
2014-03-29 11:09:23 AM  

There's a reason we separate military and the police: one fights the enemy of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people




And fark 2001. I'll land on Europa all damn day, and only physics and biology can stop me.
 
2014-03-29 11:10:47 AM  

Oldiron_79: So the vic was drinking Bud Light?


I was running in the MC Marathon in 2007.  About 15 miles into the run, I hear a marine at a water stop up ahead calling out "Gatorade over here.... Bud Lite over there"

15 miles in, and I wasn't really thinking logically... I was just thinking "Hey! Even Bud Lite will taste good now!"

Of course, the "Bud Lite" line was water, but the jerk got my hopes up!

// Semper Fi, anonymous MC jokester
 
2014-03-29 11:11:28 AM  
Again?
 
2014-03-29 11:17:04 AM  

Cerebral Ballsy: RockofAges: Cerebral Ballsy: SH: ZAZ: If you file a $40 million lawsuit for being arrested, you should automatically lose and pay your victims' legal fees. Even if the arrest causes you anxiety. Even if the arrest causes you death. It's an absurd amount and the legal system should treat it as a frivolous claim.


Whatta moron. I bet you voted for Romney.

We need to stop with this professional victim shiat. Lawsuit caps all around. If I were on her jury, I'd give her a few hundred dollars.


I know someone who wrongly sat on jail for two weeks because he shared a name with a criminal with a warrant.. He only got $40,000. What was he thinking? He should have sued for a trillion dollars!

/liberal who does not buy into bullshiat

You're actually an overweening, try-too-hard "wannabe" liberal. Sorry my man. Take it from a very politically involved social democrat -- you're pushing authoritarianism here.

These are state officers, who literally abused a private citizen, threatening lethal force. Again, not the same as "I spilled hot coffee on myself".

Sure, 40 mill is a bit hilarious. But I think 20-30k is the minimum this warrants. Pay for the kids college for their fark-up.

I didn't read to where she got arrested. I made it to "they 'tried' to break her car window" and stopped there.

I take it back. $1000 for every night she spent in jail.


Trying to break the window of someone's car because they're a 20 year old who you believe bought a beer is retarded. Is $40 million dollars a stupid amount of money? Yes but so is a couple grand for threatening lethal force and damaging someone's personal property when they bought a goddamn bottle of water whether you think it's a beer or not
 
2014-03-29 11:17:54 AM  
img.fark.net

black_knight: Why does Fark not have a Virginia tag?


Are you looking for suggestions?

/for these agents?
 
2014-03-29 11:18:13 AM  
I live walking distance from where it happened. So I drove down there (I'm a lazy fark) either that same night or the next and took these pics:

View of lot from front door of Harris Teeter:
www.bitlogic.com

View left:
www.bitlogic.com

View of Harris Teeter from a couple of spaces away:
www.bitlogic.com
As you can see, the lot is pretty well-lit.
 
2014-03-29 11:22:04 AM  

Dr J Zoidberg: Cerebral Ballsy: RockofAges: Cerebral Ballsy: SH: ZAZ: If you file a $40 million lawsuit for being arrested, you should automatically lose and pay your victims' legal fees. Even if the arrest causes you anxiety. Even if the arrest causes you death. It's an absurd amount and the legal system should treat it as a frivolous claim.


Whatta moron. I bet you voted for Romney.

We need to stop with this professional victim shiat. Lawsuit caps all around. If I were on her jury, I'd give her a few hundred dollars.


I know someone who wrongly sat on jail for two weeks because he shared a name with a criminal with a warrant.. He only got $40,000. What was he thinking? He should have sued for a trillion dollars!

/liberal who does not buy into bullshiat

You're actually an overweening, try-too-hard "wannabe" liberal. Sorry my man. Take it from a very politically involved social democrat -- you're pushing authoritarianism here.

These are state officers, who literally abused a private citizen, threatening lethal force. Again, not the same as "I spilled hot coffee on myself".

Sure, 40 mill is a bit hilarious. But I think 20-30k is the minimum this warrants. Pay for the kids college for their fark-up.

I didn't read to where she got arrested. I made it to "they 'tried' to break her car window" and stopped there.

I take it back. $1000 for every night she spent in jail.

Trying to break the window of someone's car because they're a 20 year old who you believe bought a beer is retarded. Is $40 million dollars a stupid amount of money? Yes but so is a couple grand for threatening lethal force and damaging someone's personal property when they bought a goddamn bottle of water whether you think it's a beer or not


A bunch of roided-up mall ninjas in plainclothes pointed guns at her and tried to break into her car because she bought a bottle of water.

Think about that for a minute.  $40 million is not all that absurd.  Certainly not as absurd as the allegations against the ABC agents....

Or, to put it another way, how much danger did those cops put the victim, themselves, and the general public at with their actions?
 
2014-03-29 11:35:10 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: For the life of me, I don't understand why someone would think they would need a squad of undercover officers with weapons drawn for an underage alcohol purchasing sting.

Let's say the cops were right; she was underage and purchasing booze.  So their plan was to point a shiatload of loaded weapons at a farking KID just for buying alcohol?




WAR ON TERROR!
 
2014-03-29 11:35:52 AM  
Alcoholic Beverage Control agents

See, I think I see your problem right there.
 
2014-03-29 11:37:38 AM  
Go for it
Smash the State
Hammer government nimrod's ten ways from Sunday
Punish the agents, personally
 
2014-03-29 11:38:25 AM  

Some Coke Drinking Guy: Two things.  First, alcohol control officers, whatever their state, never get the experience of dealing with major crimes that other law enforcement does, so they tend to treat their petty offenders who they just caught buying beer underage, as if they were members of some major drug cartel.  While I believe they do important work in regulating a restrictive substance, I have never been impressed with how they perform their job, in any state.  That said, I notice the ones that started showing up during spring break, to enforce underage drinking laws a few years ago, have started calming down, and treating the kids in much the same firm but reasonable manner that the regular cops do, so it may just be a lack of field experience for most of their officers.

Second, unless someone actually shot the poor girl, her damages are no where near 40 million.  While she deserves something, whoever decided on that figure for her is an idiot.  The best she can really hope for is a few thousand dollars in a settlement, just to go away.


Shoving the kids in jail overnight after terrorizing them with guns for doing nothing and refusing to drop charges for month? Nah, no significant damages.

/maybe not 40m, but Fark isnt really in the best position to decide...I hope whatever number it is hurts somebody's budget
 
2014-03-29 11:40:38 AM  

Lekneh: ZAZ: If you file a $40 million lawsuit for being arrested, you should automatically lose and pay your victims' legal fees. Even if the arrest causes you anxiety. Even if the arrest causes you death. It's an absurd amount and the legal system should treat it as a frivolous claim. My sister was arrested once and even though the charges were dropped, it still shows up on her record when potential employers do a background check. It has seriously affected her ability to find employment. She would have definitely sued if she had known she'd never be able to find a job which utilizes her degree.


She will never be able to get a security clearance.
 
2014-03-29 11:45:39 AM  

elysive: Some Coke Drinking Guy: Two things.  First, alcohol control officers, whatever their state, never get the experience of dealing with major crimes that other law enforcement does, so they tend to treat their petty offenders who they just caught buying beer underage, as if they were members of some major drug cartel.  While I believe they do important work in regulating a restrictive substance, I have never been impressed with how they perform their job, in any state.  That said, I notice the ones that started showing up during spring break, to enforce underage drinking laws a few years ago, have started calming down, and treating the kids in much the same firm but reasonable manner that the regular cops do, so it may just be a lack of field experience for most of their officers.

Second, unless someone actually shot the poor girl, her damages are no where near 40 million.  While she deserves something, whoever decided on that figure for her is an idiot.  The best she can really hope for is a few thousand dollars in a settlement, just to go away.

Shoving the kids in jail overnight after terrorizing them with guns for doing nothing and refusing to drop charges for month? Nah, no significant damages.

/maybe not 40m, but Fark isnt really in the best position to decide...I hope whatever number it is hurts somebody's budget


When a suit like this is filed, both the actual and punitive damages are enumerated. - but the media never gives us those numbers. these discussions might make a little more sense if they did.
 
2014-03-29 11:47:29 AM  

maddogdelta: Oldiron_79: So the vic was drinking Bud Light?

I was running in the MC Marathon in 2007.  About 15 miles into the run, I hear a marine at a water stop up ahead calling out "Gatorade over here.... Bud Lite over there"

15 miles in, and I wasn't really thinking logically... I was just thinking "Hey! Even Bud Lite will taste good now!"

Of course, the "Bud Lite" line was water, but the jerk got my hopes up!

// Semper Fi, anonymous MC jokester


He didn't lie - Bud Lite IS water.
 
2014-03-29 11:50:48 AM  

Hobodeluxe: office_despot: Even if she had been underage and buying a six pack of beer, in WHAT world is pulling a gun on someone over that appropriate?  Buying a six pack of beer is not endangering anyone's life.

Law enforcement really needs to start giving intelligence tests before hiring.

they actually cull them if they're too smart. they don't want any independent critical thinkers in the ranks.


I've always thought, that when the applicant states that, "All my life, I've wanted to be a police officer", they should be automatically shown the door, because you've got a junior Gestapo wannabe on your hands.
 
2014-03-29 11:52:46 AM  
The police should have malpractice insurance.
I suppose they already do, it's just called something else.

And...

The police should have video cameras recording continuously so the court can see what really happened.

I suppose citizens will need them also.
 
2014-03-29 11:56:31 AM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Lekneh: ZAZ: If you file a $40 million lawsuit for being arrested, you should automatically lose and pay your victims' legal fees. Even if the arrest causes you anxiety. Even if the arrest causes you death. It's an absurd amount and the legal system should treat it as a frivolous claim. My sister was arrested once and even though the charges were dropped, it still shows up on her record when potential employers do a background check. It has seriously affected her ability to find employment. She would have definitely sued if she had known she'd never be able to find a job which utilizes her degree.

She will never be able to get a security clearance.


That's not true. People with arrest records get security clearances all the time, particularly if the arrest was expunged. I think she's got some validity to her damages claim if she really does have documented PTSD from the experience; you can estimate how much lost income she would suffer over a lifetime and come up with a number. I doubt it's going to be anywhere near $40 million, though. That's a meaningless number, but she could very well wind up with $1 million or more. Good thing, too; cops need to be reined in with all this SWAT-team BS they increasingly use on simple misdemeanor collars.
 
2014-03-29 12:04:23 PM  

doglover: Also, I would like to see a law where cops who are not in uniform are not cops. "plain clothes officer" should mean "no authority person" You can still use undercover cops as witnesses and in prostitution stings, but there should be an explicit law that a cop in plain clothes is no cop at all.


That entirely negates the purpose of "citizen's arrest"
 
2014-03-29 12:04:32 PM  
The cops deserve every bit of this.  They were all in plain clothes, rushed their car with guns drawn when they had not committed a crime, so the girls freaked and sped off, while  calling the police to report they had just been attacked.  Dispatch tells them to stop and pull over, which they did, and they were then still charged with multiple felonies (assaulting police [no injuries], and evading arrest).

fark Virginia cops.
 
2014-03-29 12:05:03 PM  

ZAZ: If you file a $40 million lawsuit for being arrested, you should automatically lose and pay your victims' legal fees. Even if the arrest causes you anxiety. Even if the arrest causes you death. It's an absurd amount and the legal system should treat it as a frivolous claim.


The way the system works. You file for 40 in hopes of getting 4. Then after the lawyers take there cut, you go to McDonald's and buy a value meal with large fries.
 
2014-03-29 12:06:52 PM  
Sounds like some people haven't dealt with the ABC before.  You may dislike cops, but there is no group that maliciously abuses their power like they do.  They tried to railroad one of my coworkers about a decade ago, who was ex-military, ex-cop, ex-professional sports player who was just there for some extra retirement money, not realizing who they were going after. It was really humorous to see what happened when he made a few phone calls to people he had worked with who were really high up in state or federal now.

/he did absolutely nothing wrong
//they had a guy who was 50+ buy a beer, then after he received it they tried to swap him with a 17 year old and claim he'd been sold drinks underage -- watched it happen myself, as I was laughing about how some random 50 year old had bought a teenager a beer.
///why yes, they work off of the fine money they bring in, too!
////some states' ABC people are worse than others
 
2014-03-29 12:08:31 PM  

LazyMedia: I think she's got some validity to her damages claim if she really does have documented PTSD from the experience; you can estimate how much lost income she would suffer over a lifetime and come up with a number. I doubt it's going to be anywhere near $40 million, though. That's a meaningless number, but she could very well wind up with $1 million or more. Good thing, too; cops need to be reined in with all this SWAT-team BS they increasingly use on simple misdemeanor collars.


Most people are missing the point.  The 40 million isn't for her anxiety, its so they stop having glorified truant officers charging in with weapons drawn to arrest people for potentially having beer when they shouldn't.  That's a recipe for SOMEONE getting dead, maybe even one of these cops (who will be a "hero" who fell in the line of duty).

The 40 million is punitive damages to punish this department for doing something RIDICULOUS and extremely unsafe for everyone involved.  And really none of these guys will be punished at all so even then it doesn't help.  We need to implement always-on full-body recordings with sound for all police officers and then strike down qualified immunity and require any lawsuits to pass a simple deposition where the cop's camera feed is examined by a judge to prove there's basic merit.
 
2014-03-29 12:08:59 PM  
And I hope they get every penny of it. Cops are slowly turning into jack booted thugs that need to be reigned in.
 
2014-03-29 12:09:01 PM  

LazyMedia: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Lekneh: ZAZ: If you file a $40 million lawsuit for being arrested, you should automatically lose and pay your victims' legal fees. Even if the arrest causes you anxiety. Even if the arrest causes you death. It's an absurd amount and the legal system should treat it as a frivolous claim. My sister was arrested once and even though the charges were dropped, it still shows up on her record when potential employers do a background check. It has seriously affected her ability to find employment. She would have definitely sued if she had known she'd never be able to find a job which utilizes her degree.

She will never be able to get a security clearance.

That's not true. People with arrest records get security clearances all the time, particularly if the arrest was expunged. I think she's got some validity to her damages claim if she really does have documented PTSD from the experience; you can estimate how much lost income she would suffer over a lifetime and come up with a number. I doubt it's going to be anywhere near $40 million, though. That's a meaningless number, but she could very well wind up with $1 million or more. Good thing, too; cops need to be reined in with all this SWAT-team BS they increasingly use on simple misdemeanor collars.


Just want to ditto this, since the "no security clearance" is a popular meme.  Arrest records -- and in some cases even convictions -- do not stop you from getting a security clearance.  It just depends how much the agency wants you.  They do make it hard, though, if you're an outside contractor who needs the clearance to do work for the government.  That's a big showstopper, again, unless you are providing something very few other people can.
 
2014-03-29 12:09:24 PM  

Tigger: dukeblue219: Satanic_Hamster: Let's say the cops were right; she was underage and purchasing booze.  So their plan was to point a shiatload of loaded weapons at a farking KID just for buying alcohol?

Sure, why not? In graduate school in an engineering building we had a professor accused (rightly) of misappropriating a few hundred thousand dollars. A legit crime worthy of a search warrant, no doubt. Instead, 2 fully armed and armored swat teams, followed by uniformed state police, stormed the building and held everyone they found there at 8am at gunpoint. We're talking about 21-25 year old engineering students and their professors who aren't even connected to this case. It was a big learning moment for me about how the police view the public.

It's not how they view the public that's the problem. It's how they view themselves. Heroic tough guy defenders of justice in a world gone badly wrong. In their minds because of who they are they need and deserve all that equipment.


To be fair, when there actually is a bad guy and the cops are actually in the right, having some of that stuff is really handy for the forces of good and law.


In fact, most cops are actually pretty good at not abusing their authority. They're very much trained, like dogs, to be hierarchical. This is a good thing.

The problem is that you have lawmakers giving them authority they don't deserve or need. Like the power to arrest a kid for having a beer under 21.

These guys prolly have a quota (All the current cops say they don't, but all the former cops say they do.) They need to bust x number of kids or funding gets cut. Funding gets cut, they can't feed their kids. So their brains are all hopped up on desperation and training. So when they see ANYTHING that might be an offense, they go to 11 immediately. Full farkin' textbook takebown in case this suspect is the next Bonnie and Clyde style hard ass with a BAR across their laps and nothing to lose is what they're trained to do. So out comes the guns and they don't wear uniforms because the element of surprise is a force multiplier. But it all goes to hell, and here we are.

These two cops did what they were trained to do, like dogs. They were too aggressive for no reason, like bad dogs. They made a big mess and traumatized a minor, like very bad dogs. So, we should treat them like the dogs they are and make sure their training is very clear. Right now we train them to be vicious hunting dogs with the latest and greatest German Schanze-Essen training and encourage them to run down everything that moves and piss on anything that doesn't. It's not the dog's fault when the owner is bad. We should train the next generation of police to be more like sheep dogs. Observe the herd, guide its movement, and tear into any wolves that show up. Instead of warriors, they should be guardians. Instead of hunters, they should be gatekeepers. Instead of vice law, they should be dealing with violent crimes.
 
2014-03-29 12:10:35 PM  

doglover: I do think that paying her more than a few $100,000 tops is way too much. I've been falsely arrested at the age of 18 myself. Get a hobby, girl. Work some of that stress off.


It's unlikely she's the one who set the damage amount.  Once she signed on with a lawyer, the entire deal is out of her hands.  The huge punitive damage amount got the media attention the case needed.  They will enter negotiations and settle out of court for an amount they won't be allowed to disclose.

And has anyone mentioned this is a repeat, Pete?
 
2014-03-29 12:10:38 PM  
Super_pope:

The 40 million is punitive damages to punish this department for doing something RIDICULOUS and extremely unsafe for everyone involved.

Think of all the children who would have died if she had been allowed to get away with that water unchecked.  She could have gone on a multi-state gardening spree, watering dying plans wantonly.
 
2014-03-29 12:18:40 PM  

mrmopar5287: doglover: Also, I would like to see a law where cops who are not in uniform are not cops. "plain clothes officer" should mean "no authority person" You can still use undercover cops as witnesses and in prostitution stings, but there should be an explicit law that a cop in plain clothes is no cop at all.

That entirely negates the purpose of "citizen's arrest"


This is a problem? We really need this guy out apprehending people?

mayberrymeets.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-03-29 12:19:25 PM  

FitzShivering: Super_pope:

The 40 million is punitive damages to punish this department for doing something RIDICULOUS and extremely unsafe for everyone involved.

Think of all the children who would have died if she had been allowed to get away with that water unchecked.  She could have gone on a multi-state gardening spree, watering dying plans wantonly.


Water? Like from the toilet?
 
2014-03-29 12:20:50 PM  
I hope that young lady has learned her lesson now.
 
2014-03-29 12:22:31 PM  

FitzShivering: Think of all the children who would have died if she had been allowed to get away with that water unchecked.  She could have gone on a multi-state gardening spree, watering dying plans wantonly.


Even if it WAS beer, like... she was buying beer.  There's literally ZERO reason to think she's going to pull out a Tommy Gun and just UNLOAD if they try to stop her while wearing their uniforms and without drawing arms.  Getting a boner because you get to threaten someone's life makes you totally unfit for being a cop.  Its basically a requirement to be employed in a PD these days, but you're still utterly unfit for duty.
 
2014-03-29 12:26:43 PM  

doglover: ZAZ: If you file a $40 million lawsuit for being arrested, you should automatically lose and pay your victims' legal fees. Even if the arrest causes you anxiety. Even if the arrest causes you death. It's an absurd amount and the legal system should treat it as a frivolous claim.

No. We need to make the punative damages equal to all salaries, pentions, and budgets of any alcohol police. Destroy them, smote their ruin, undo their works, and end their lines. Vice laws mostly destroy societies. Break those who enforce them as the treasons they are.


Crush them, see them driven before us, and hear the lamentation of their women!
 
2014-03-29 12:30:48 PM  
This case has some merit IMHO.

Virginia ABC was acting like the Catholic Church before the incident. The agent in charge at least one year before had "lost control" of another office and was asked to transfer (just like the Catholic Church and schools transferring bad apples rather than firing) to the office where this event happened.

This wouldn't have come to light so easily except that the agent no 2 at that office was told he could apply for the same job before the superiors decided to transfer the bad apple into the office to hide a problem.

Problem was this agent had no problem with plainclothes officers pulling guns on someone who appears to be buying beer underaged. Flashing a badge quickly doesn't absolve them of that. They should have used their
Badges first before pulling their guns. I know their official story is that the guns didn't come out until after she tried to hit (murder) them with her car but wouldn't you try to get away from some creeps telling you to get out of the car?

I don't buy it that the guns were pulled that late. She ignored their brief badge flash and they escalated it. All with a bad apple agent in charge. Sorry it wasn't just training at play and I usually will defend police in toss up situations.

40 million is too much but 100k is too little for an official coverup. Unless more heads roll with loss of pensions etc.
 
2014-03-29 12:31:23 PM  

Man On A Mission: labman: Or they are using the mobile version of the site on their phone that doesn't have that link at the bottom. (Like I am)

Or no one can actually find the "original" thread.


The mobile site does have the link at the bottom. It's labeled "report error".

It's how Megan and I are penpals.

Usually if you come across as a human, even if you don't know the original link, they'll do something. My current lack of TF is to try and limit my time on the computer, not an expression of disdain for the admins.

/the users of TFD, however, well, they're another story.
 
2014-03-29 12:35:12 PM  

Super_pope: Even if it WAS beer, like... she was buying beer.  There's literally ZERO reason to think she's going to pull out a Tommy Gun and just UNLOAD if they try to stop her while wearing their uniforms and without drawing arms.   Getting a boner because you get to threaten someone's life makes you totally unfit for being a cop.  Its basically a requirement to be employed in a PD these days, but you're still utterly unfit for duty.


All six officers on scene were plainclothes.  Not a single officer there was wearing a uniform or driving a marked vehicle.

Also, obviously the  only reason for them to rush the car like that was because they get off on it.  If they had just calmly approached the vehicle with a badge in hand instead of a gun, this whole situation could have been avoided.  Its farking bullshiat, and its why if I was on this jury I'd award every penny.
 
2014-03-29 12:35:21 PM  

LazyMedia: mrmopar5287: doglover: Also, I would like to see a law where cops who are not in uniform are not cops. "plain clothes officer" should mean "no authority person" You can still use undercover cops as witnesses and in prostitution stings, but there should be an explicit law that a cop in plain clothes is no cop at all.

That entirely negates the purpose of "citizen's arrest"

This is a problem? We really need this guy out apprehending people?

[mayberrymeets.files.wordpress.com image 850x637]


In the ideal United States, YES we need this guy apprehending criminals.

need
verb
1require (something) because it is essential or very important.
2.expressing necessity or obligation.

Let's blend the two meanings and call citizen's arrests an obligation that is essential or very important to the functioning of a first world society.  If a crime has been committed and a person (not even a citizen) is witness to a felony or misdemeanor, it would be the ideal situation for them to immediately apprehend the perpetrator if they are able to do so in a safe manner.  This gets the criminal off the streets without letting them run loose to possibly commit more crimes, and it also motivates people to take responsibility and be invested in their communities.  It is far better than a callous disregard that most people have when they see a crime and think "That's the job of the police" as they shrug and walk away from a situation that they very will might be able to end right there on the spot.  It cuts down on false arrests based upon eye witness reports when you immediately apprehend the person on the spot.  Lastly, it also functions to knock the police down a notch or two in most people's mental
hierarchy when you communicate the legal concept to people that THEY have the power to make an arrest and right a wrong, and they are a partner with the police who act as the transport to the jail and court system.
 
2014-03-29 12:38:14 PM  
Thank God it wasn't an Arizona iced tea or else somebody would have ended up killed!
 
2014-03-29 12:46:06 PM  

Super_pope: FitzShivering: Think of all the children who would have died if she had been allowed to get away with that water unchecked.  She could have gone on a multi-state gardening spree, watering dying plans wantonly.

Even if it WAS beer, like... she was buying beer.  There's literally ZERO reason to think she's going to pull out a Tommy Gun and just UNLOAD if they try to stop her while wearing their uniforms and without drawing arms.  Getting a boner because you get to threaten someone's life makes you totally unfit for being a cop.  Its basically a requirement to be employed in a PD these days, but you're still utterly unfit for duty.


This.I don't care if she had a couple of bottles of Everclear...drawing weapons and busting car windows to haul somebody out of a vehicle for underage possession is in no way acceptable.
 
2014-03-29 12:46:39 PM  
Drew should add a Repeat tab to Fark.
 
2014-03-29 01:08:12 PM  

ZAZ: If you file a $40 million lawsuit for being arrested, you should automatically lose and pay your victims' legal fees. Even if the arrest causes you anxiety. Even if the arrest causes you death. It's an absurd amount and the legal system should treat it as a frivolous claim.


I see you don't understand how lawsuits work.
 
2014-03-29 01:10:14 PM  
As a (sad to say) middle aged man; why is the drinking age 21 in America?

At 18 years old you can legally
-vote
-marry
-sign a contract
-do porn
-buy a gun
-fight and die for your country
but you can't buy alcohol. Why?
 
2014-03-29 01:10:32 PM  

ZAZ: If you file a $40 million lawsuit for being arrested, you should automatically lose and pay your victims' legal fees. Even if the arrest causes you anxiety. Even if the arrest causes you death. It's an absurd amount and the legal system should treat it as a frivolous claim.


I agree. While on the one hand, that is a lot of manpower to try and catch someone using a fake I.D., this was just a misunderstanding and no harm came to anyone. This lawsuit is frivolous and the product of a self-entitled brat that likely had any hint of adversity in her life paved over by her undoubtedly wealthy parents
 
2014-03-29 01:13:06 PM  

Alonjar: Super_pope: Even if it WAS beer, like... she was buying beer.  There's literally ZERO reason to think she's going to pull out a Tommy Gun and just UNLOAD if they try to stop her while wearing their uniforms and without drawing arms.   Getting a boner because you get to threaten someone's life makes you totally unfit for being a cop.  Its basically a requirement to be employed in a PD these days, but you're still utterly unfit for duty.

All six officers on scene were plainclothes.  Not a single officer there was wearing a uniform or driving a marked vehicle.

Also, obviously the  only reason for them to rush the car like that was because they get off on it.  If they had just calmly approached the vehicle with a badge in hand instead of a gun, this whole situation could have been avoided.  Its farking bullshiat, and its why if I was on this jury I'd award every penny.


Right. I said they could have done this just fine with uniforms and no guns. Frankly she's probably cute and they wanted to scare her til the point where they could extort a few dick suckings out of her.

Cops commit sexual assaults at like 5 times the rate of other americans
 
2014-03-29 01:13:31 PM  

doglover: ZAZ: If you file a $40 million lawsuit for being arrested, you should automatically lose and pay your victims' legal fees. Even if the arrest causes you anxiety. Even if the arrest causes you death. It's an absurd amount and the legal system should treat it as a frivolous claim.

No. We need to make the punative damages equal to all salaries, pentions, and budgets of any alcohol police. Destroy them, smote their ruin, undo their works, and end their lines. Vice laws mostly destroy societies. Break those who enforce them as the treasons they are.


Old school, love it.
i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-29 01:15:30 PM  

Pumpernickel bread: ZAZ: If you file a $40 million lawsuit for being arrested, you should automatically lose and pay your victims' legal fees. Even if the arrest causes you anxiety. Even if the arrest causes you death. It's an absurd amount and the legal system should treat it as a frivolous claim.

I agree. While on the one hand, that is a lot of manpower to try and catch someone using a fake I.D., this was just a misunderstanding and no harm came to anyone. This lawsuit is frivolous and the product of a self-entitled brat that likely had any hint of adversity in her life paved over by her undoubtedly wealthy parents


Punitive damages are so tricky for some of you better-of-aborteds
 
2014-03-29 01:17:06 PM  
Better of aborted what?
 
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