not_an_indigo: Sometimes you just need a thrill. I get it. I've thought about doing it.
RockofAges: It's pretty clear that socially / culturally, monogamy is innately natural for human pairs, as it has been the standard since the dawn of our existence.
RockofAges: Polyamory sounds great on paper, and works for less than 1% of the population. Also, which "natural" state are you talking about? Biologically? Or Socially? Culturally?
RockofAges: it's not usually the sex that's the issue
Prey4reign: My brother-in-law, who I always assumed was wildly in love with my sister, shocked me the other day with a tale of a dalliance he had with a delivery girl in his office about 33 years ago.
stirfrybry: WhoopAssWayne: Only liberals feel this way. Been married for years.THISbetrayal must be a liberal thingBill ClintonGary HartAl Gore
miscreant: And even then... it's a cultural standard. If we're all so naturally monogamous, then why do 50% of marriages end in divorce, and even the ones that last have a high rate of infidelity.
WhoopAssWayne: Only liberals feel this way. Been married for years.
TwistedFark: rosekolodny: TwistedFark: filter: Yeah, the CDC has that number nailed down.... right. I don't see any reason why the rate of cheating should be lower than the rate of divorce. Secondly the divorce rate is a bit of a false metric, considering how many people get divorced multiple times.ladyfortuna: "Actual data". Riiiiiight. Because people don't lie about sex, or (probably more often) the urge to be naughty, even if they don't act on it.Okay, so people are happy to believe the CDC when it comes to stuff like HIV transmission, cancer rates, heart disease, etc, but for some reason you don't believe them when they conclude that only about 20% of married people had more than 1 sexual partner while married. Note: This number also includes people who are in "open relationships", so it's probably even better in favour of monogamy (or fidelity as the case may be) being the norm, and not infidelity.In any case, it's more factual than the garbage this woman is pushing.Oh. So there's some sort of medical test for infidelity now? You can run an ELISA or Western Blot to test for adultery antibodies?Self-reporting is notoriously sketchy. Men inflate the number of sexual partners they have enjoyed, while women downplay the same. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that I have more confidence in the CDC's HIV statistics than its extramarital-naughty-time statistics.Don't be stupid. With the sampling size they have there would have to be an obvious and concerted effort for people to lie in order to substantially shift the numbers by more than a percentage point or two.In any case, what are you arguing? That the number may not be definitive, or that it's off by an order of magnitude? If it's the former, then I'll grant that, because yes, we never really know, if it's the later then you're just a moron - or like this woman have a book to sell.
rosekolodny: Of course I'm not saying it's off by an order of magnitude. I'm saying that someone who will lie to the spouse may also lie to the surveyor, and that I personally have more confidence in science-science than social-science. I think this article is pretty good/relevant:http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/28/health/28well.html?_r=0
HindiDiscoMonster: Tyrone Slothrop: robohobo: These people are also known as worthless, dishonest scumbags deserving of a scarlet letter.You sound sexually repressed.you sound amoral
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