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2014-03-28 11:39:30 PM
Aww crap, and I'm headed there Sunday.
 
2014-03-28 11:53:43 PM
Wouldn't want to cut into Sheldon Aldelson's profits huh subs? How many more billions do these guys need before people like you can start rooting for the middle class worker?
 
2014-03-28 11:53:57 PM
 
2014-03-28 11:55:33 PM
Actually, yes, that is the time when a strike may be called for because the management will likely try to use the downturn as an excuse to cut benefits, wages, or jobs.

FTFA:  The new contracts preserve health benefits and add measures to protect housekeepers from hazardous work conditions. The deals also aim to restore workers laid off when restaurants closed during the recession.

So, they're not even asking for more money, just that their health insurance isn't reduced, that workplace safety be improved, and that jobs be restored to those who lost them due to no fault of their own.
 
2014-03-29 02:00:59 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Actually, yes, that is the time when a strike may be called for because the management will likely try to use the downturn as an excuse to cut benefits, wages, or jobs.

FTFA:  The new contracts preserve health benefits and add measures to protect housekeepers from hazardous work conditions. The deals also aim to restore workers laid off when restaurants closed during the recession.

So, they're not even asking for more money, just that their health insurance isn't reduced, that workplace safety be improved, and that jobs be restored to those who lost them due to no fault of their own.


Literally worse than that German chap who didn't like juice.

Now, check out my new yacht. It comes with a dozen quad-copter drones that automatically seek and destroy sand castles and steal babies' candy.
 
2014-03-29 02:24:24 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Actually, yes, that is the time when a strike may be called for because the management will likely try to use the downturn as an excuse to cut benefits, wages, or jobs.

FTFA:  The new contracts preserve health benefits and add measures to protect housekeepers from hazardous work conditions. The deals also aim to restore workers laid off when restaurants closed during the recession.

So, they're not even asking for more money, just that their health insurance isn't reduced, that workplace safety be improved, and that jobs be restored to those who lost them due to no fault of their own.


That's just what they WANT you to think. Somewhere buried beneath several dozen paragraphs of good reasons to strike is one thing related to extra diet cokes during work breaks or something.
 
2014-03-29 03:08:47 AM
It is a tough time for casino owners.

The amount they're spending to buy Senators and Congressmen to outlaw their online competition is killing them.
 
2014-03-29 03:48:47 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Actually, yes, that is the time when a strike may be called for because the management will likely try to use the downturn as an excuse to cut benefits, wages, or jobs.

FTFA:  The new contracts preserve health benefits and add measures to protect housekeepers from hazardous work conditions. The deals also aim to restore workers laid off when restaurants closed during the recession.

So, they're not even asking for more money, just that their health insurance isn't reduced, that workplace safety be improved, and that jobs be restored to those who lost them due to no fault of their own.


Much better to go on strike when absolutely nothing is wrong and the tips are flowing. Yeah....
 
2014-03-29 03:57:07 AM
Las Vegas says it's revenue is down. Because Vegas has a history of being on the up'n'up.
 
2014-03-29 03:58:24 AM
Wait, their profits are down, and yet casino patron winning numbers are also down...? I'd imagine an awful lot of their losses would be from people winning, so how the...?
 
2014-03-29 04:00:31 AM
Sounds like the miners here in south africa.

"Profits are up and the markets are good? STRIKE!"

"Profits are bad and the markets are looking crappy? STRIKE"

"Profits and the market look broadly the same as last year? STRIKE STRIKE STRIKE! Also, lets burn random peoples cars and loot shops!"
 
2014-03-29 04:00:41 AM
I would love to go back in time and visit Las Vegas when it was run but the rob. Fantastically corrupt, but far more classy.

And also, you sling cards, or drinks. Boo farking hoo.
 
2014-03-29 04:03:24 AM
where is my Ancient Fishy :(
 
2014-03-29 04:04:52 AM
I'd like to see the dam.
 
2014-03-29 04:06:44 AM

Smoking GNU: Sounds like the miners here in south africa.

"Profits are up and the markets are good? STRIKE!"

"Profits are bad and the markets are looking crappy? STRIKE"

"Profits and the market look broadly the same as last year? STRIKE STRIKE STRIKE! Also, lets burn random peoples cars and loot shops!"


It's almost like profits and markets don't matter to workers if they're getting farked.
 
2014-03-29 04:07:20 AM
Because GenY-Z are fulfilling their "alt reality where they WIN!" via MMORPGs.
 
2014-03-29 04:07:39 AM
I love the part where you nuked Las Vegas, it was a suitably biblical ending to the place.
 
2014-03-29 04:08:47 AM

TomD9938: I'd like to see the dam.


The Hoover Dam is very impressive. It's a fantastic tour. An hour isn't enough. Also the first and last men to die during construction were father and son.
 
2014-03-29 04:19:19 AM

LordJiro: Smoking GNU: Sounds like the miners here in south africa.

"Profits are up and the markets are good? STRIKE!"

"Profits are bad and the markets are looking crappy? STRIKE"

"Profits and the market look broadly the same as last year? STRIKE STRIKE STRIKE! Also, lets burn random peoples cars and loot shops!"

It's almost like profits and markets don't matter to workers if they're getting farked.


Yeah, "getting farked". Now even more so since the mines are turning to mechanization in their mining process cause of the unreliability of their working force, who strike on average of 3 months a year.
 
2014-03-29 04:26:37 AM
doglover:  quad-copter drones that automatically seek and destroy sand castles and steal babies' candy.

shutupandtakemymoney.jpg
 
2014-03-29 04:30:07 AM
Sounds resonable. The place I work has been trying to nickle and dime us at every turn. Everyone getting promoted makes 30% less, healthcare about to go up another 50% and this week we were told that we would have to take a mandatory 90 min lunch break. So in order for people to get 8 hours they would have to come in early or leave later. They reapealed it they day after they told us because a lot of people were just going to quit on friday, a lot of people. I still updated my resume anyway.
 
2014-03-29 04:42:40 AM

fusillade762: Down from when?

Year Revenue Change

2007 $25.257 billion 4.9

2008 $25.004 billion -1.0

2009 $22.011 billion -12.0

2010 $20.853 billion -5.3

2011 $22.012 billion 5.6

2012 $22.976 billion 4.4

2013 $23.075 billion 0.4


But the rich!!!!! They will make up for it! With the automatic trickling downing of wealth, we will win!!!!! All hail the Tea Party!!!!!!
 
2014-03-29 04:44:00 AM

robohobo: I would love to go back in time and visit Las Vegas when it was run but the rob. Fantastically corrupt, but far more classy.

And also, you sling cards, or drinks. Boo farking hoo.


Rob was a hell of a nice guy.
 
2014-03-29 04:49:14 AM

dwade: robohobo: I would love to go back in time and visit Las Vegas when it was run but the rob. Fantastically corrupt, but far more classy.

And also, you sling cards, or drinks. Boo farking hoo.

Rob was a hell of a nice guy.


It's been robbed of its charm with him gone
 
2014-03-29 04:49:15 AM
Still up 6%
 
2014-03-29 05:07:05 AM

Smoking GNU: Sounds like the miners here in south africa.

"Profits are up and the markets are good? STRIKE!"

"Profits are bad and the markets are looking crappy? STRIKE"

"Profits and the market look broadly the same as last year? STRIKE STRIKE STRIKE! Also, lets burn random peoples cars and loot shops!"


Hm.

When I think South African miners, the news story that really sticks in my mind is the Marikana miners who were charged with murder because the police shot a load of them up.

Digging further reveals that, while recent strikes have apparently cost the platinum mining industry $1bn, the mine owners can't afford to pay their employees $14000 pa.

How dare those uppity miners demand a decent wage for doing a dangerous job.
 
2014-03-29 05:24:56 AM
So, what's the FAIL tag for subby? A group of workiers just trying to maintain their meager standard of living? I call FAIL on your FAIL tag.
 
2014-03-29 05:57:21 AM

robohobo: I would love to go back in time and visit Las Vegas when it was run but the rob. Fantastically corrupt, but far more classy.

And also, you sling cards, or drinks. Boo farking hoo.


Vegas is a dumpy money pit these days, and it's even worse if you gamble. Definitely needs more DeNiro and Peschi type characters to class it up.

Last trip there, I discovered the best line to fend the timeshare and other folks who walk up and try to sell you something.

Them: Hi, what brings you to Las Vegas?

Me: My mother's funeral.
 
2014-03-29 05:59:33 AM
I'm surprised LV makes any money with all the new casinos popping up in different states.
 
2014-03-29 06:33:03 AM
It's all these Tourists that go to LV and Don't gamble! The "Perks", the shows, the restaurants, the fancy pools and everything else were built as Extras for the people who came to Play or as something to keep the wife and kids busy the rest of the time. Now there are all these people who come to LV and think rolling a 20 into a machine once is gambling. Did everyone forget why and how this all got built in the first place? I go to AC and LV specifically TO gamble. In LV I still stay on the strip but I always get a car and spend my days downtown and around at all the Off-Strip places. By now I've been in almost every casino in LV except for a few of the really small ones. Definitely every one in AC. I play all day every day. AM session, Afternoon session and Evening session. Never seen a show and have no desire to. The Pools? I'm over 60 now so forget it. Clubbing? Right, last time I did that was when Disco was cool and that didn't last did it. Fine Dining? I don't know what Gourmet Cuisine that You are eating at home but all the off-strip buffets cost about 1/2 of what the Tourists pay stuck on the strip. $4.99 for b'fast at Palace Station! it's all the same eggs, bacon, sausage and whatever style of home fries they all have anyway, what's the difference? Oh you have a fine casino at home. Well that tells me you don't have any idea of how they really work. I have no desire to go into the ones they've built here in MD. I checked out one a few years ago and wasn't impressed. Besides, I go Away to Stay and Play several times a year, that's the whole reason for it all. I have no desire to drive right down the road and play all the time. That's like sitting home getting Drunk and watching TV, what's the point?
 
2014-03-29 06:36:50 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Actually, yes, that is the time when a strike may be called for because the management will likely try to use the downturn as an excuse to cut benefits, wages, or jobs.

FTFA:  The new contracts preserve health benefits and add measures to protect housekeepers from hazardous work conditions. The deals also aim to restore workers laid off when restaurants closed during the recession.

So, they're not even asking for more money, just that their health insurance isn't reduced, that workplace safety be improved, and that jobs be restored to those who lost them due to no fault of their own.


I've never understood that last part.  I've been laid off due to no fault of my own twice.  I went out and got another job.  Moved once to do it too.  Why would anyone sit around waiting for their old employer to rehire them?

Forget it.  It's gone.
 
2014-03-29 06:46:13 AM

AngryDragon: TuteTibiImperes: Actually, yes, that is the time when a strike may be called for because the management will likely try to use the downturn as an excuse to cut benefits, wages, or jobs.

FTFA:  The new contracts preserve health benefits and add measures to protect housekeepers from hazardous work conditions. The deals also aim to restore workers laid off when restaurants closed during the recession.

So, they're not even asking for more money, just that their health insurance isn't reduced, that workplace safety be improved, and that jobs be restored to those who lost them due to no fault of their own.

I've never understood that last part.  I've been laid off due to no fault of my own twice.  I went out and got another job.  Moved once to do it too.  Why would anyone sit around waiting for their old employer to rehire them?

Forget it.  It's gone.


Fairly certain that just means the number of operating staff. Not the exact same person
 
2014-03-29 06:49:39 AM
FTA:  "The Culinary is the largest union in Nevada, with some 55,000 workers including bartenders, food service workers, housekeepers, cooks, porters and others at casinos and properties downtown and on the Las Vegas Strip."

All of them working hard to keep the mathematically challenged casino patrons drunk, stuffed with food, and comfortable in their hotel rooms while the casino owners relieve said patrons of their money.
 
2014-03-29 06:57:37 AM
A point would exist if money was being actually lost, as in, you know, running at a loss.
 
2014-03-29 07:06:40 AM

Smoking GNU: LordJiro: Smoking GNU: Sounds like the miners here in south africa.

"Profits are up and the markets are good? STRIKE!"

"Profits are bad and the markets are looking crappy? STRIKE"

"Profits and the market look broadly the same as last year? STRIKE STRIKE STRIKE! Also, lets burn random peoples cars and loot shops!"

It's almost like profits and markets don't matter to workers if they're getting farked.

Yeah, "getting farked". Now even more so since the mines are turning to mechanization in their mining process cause of the unreliability of their working force, who strike on average of 3 months a year.


img2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-03-29 07:28:31 AM

AngryDragon: TuteTibiImperes: Actually, yes, that is the time when a strike may be called for because the management will likely try to use the downturn as an excuse to cut benefits, wages, or jobs.

FTFA:  The new contracts preserve health benefits and add measures to protect housekeepers from hazardous work conditions. The deals also aim to restore workers laid off when restaurants closed during the recession.

So, they're not even asking for more money, just that their health insurance isn't reduced, that workplace safety be improved, and that jobs be restored to those who lost them due to no fault of their own.

I've never understood that last part.  I've been laid off due to no fault of my own twice.  I went out and got another job.  Moved once to do it too.  Why would anyone sit around waiting for their old employer to rehire them?

Forget it.  It's gone.


Because someone owes me something!
 
2014-03-29 07:42:54 AM

Lapdance: It's all these Tourists that go to LV and Don't gamble! The "Perks", the shows, the restaurants, the fancy pools and everything else were built as Extras for the people who came to Play or as something to keep the wife and kids busy the rest of the time. Now there are all these people who come to LV and think rolling a 20 into a machine once is gambling. Did everyone forget why and how this all got built in the first place? I go to AC and LV specifically TO gamble. In LV I still stay on the strip but I always get a car and spend my days downtown and around at all the Off-Strip places. By now I've been in almost every casino in LV except for a few of the really small ones. Definitely every one in AC. I play all day every day. AM session, Afternoon session and Evening session. Never seen a show and have no desire to. The Pools? I'm over 60 now so forget it. Clubbing? Right, last time I did that was when Disco was cool and that didn't last did it. Fine Dining? I don't know what Gourmet Cuisine that You are eating at home but all the off-strip buffets cost about 1/2 of what the Tourists pay stuck on the strip. $4.99 for b'fast at Palace Station! it's all the same eggs, bacon, sausage and whatever style of home fries they all have anyway, what's the difference? Oh you have a fine casino at home. Well that tells me you don't have any idea of how they really work. I have no desire to go into the ones they've built here in MD. I checked out one a few years ago and wasn't impressed. Besides, I go Away to Stay and Play several times a year, that's the whole reason for it all. I have no desire to drive right down the road and play all the time. That's like sitting home getting Drunk and watching TV, what's the point?


Saves a lot of time. I also save time when going to the casino by lowering my car window a crack and toss out $20's. Never win, and get more pleasure watching people fight over the money.
 
2014-03-29 07:44:39 AM

Deep Contact: Lapdance: It's all these Tourists that go to LV and Don't gamble! The "Perks", the shows, the restaurants, the fancy pools and everything else were built as Extras for the people who came to Play or as something to keep the wife and kids busy the rest of the time. Now there are all these people who come to LV and think rolling a 20 into a machine once is gambling. Did everyone forget why and how this all got built in the first place? I go to AC and LV specifically TO gamble. In LV I still stay on the strip but I always get a car and spend my days downtown and around at all the Off-Strip places. By now I've been in almost every casino in LV except for a few of the really small ones. Definitely every one in AC. I play all day every day. AM session, Afternoon session and Evening session. Never seen a show and have no desire to. The Pools? I'm over 60 now so forget it. Clubbing? Right, last time I did that was when Disco was cool and that didn't last did it. Fine Dining? I don't know what Gourmet Cuisine that You are eating at home but all the off-strip buffets cost about 1/2 of what the Tourists pay stuck on the strip. $4.99 for b'fast at Palace Station! it's all the same eggs, bacon, sausage and whatever style of home fries they all have anyway, what's the difference? Oh you have a fine casino at home. Well that tells me you don't have any idea of how they really work. I have no desire to go into the ones they've built here in MD. I checked out one a few years ago and wasn't impressed. Besides, I go Away to Stay and Play several times a year, that's the whole reason for it all. I have no desire to drive right down the road and play all the time. That's like sitting home getting Drunk and watching TV, what's the point?

Saves a lot of time. I also save time when going to the casino by lowering my car window a crack and toss out $20's. Never win, and get more pleasure watching people fight over the money.


Gambling is fun. Imagining what you will do with all that cash that you wont win is something that is pretty damn fun.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-03-29 08:02:34 AM
I am willing to destroy Las Vegas and move the population somewhere more sustainable like the California coast or Brazil.
 
2014-03-29 08:43:08 AM

tirob: FTA:  "The Culinary is the largest union in Nevada, with some 55,000 workers including bartenders, food service workers, housekeepers, cooks, porters and others at casinos and properties downtown and on the Las Vegas Strip."

All of them working hard to keep the mathematically challenged casino patrons drunk, stuffed with food, and comfortable in their hotel rooms while the casino owners relieve said patrons of their money.


A little background on the UNITE-HERE Culinary local's problem with their healthcare:

UNITE HERE's Harshly Critical Report About Obamacare
http://onlabor.org/2014/03/11/unite-heres-harshly-critical-report-ab ou t-obamacare/

:
 
2014-03-29 08:43:33 AM
Las Vegas revenues down 14%, and winnings down 20%. Las Vegas workers unions: "This is a perfect time to strike"

"
...When a city has grown so large and overcrowded that it is in immediate danger of collapse...when food and clean water flow into the city at a rate just sufficient to feed every mouth and every hand must work constantly to keep it that way...when all transportation is involved in moving vital supplies and none is left over to move people out of the city should the need arise...then it is that Crazy Eddie leads the movers of garbage out on strike for better working conditions."

/Too obscure?
//Fyunch-click
 
2014-03-29 08:48:02 AM

Iczer: Wait, their profits are down, and yet casino patron winning numbers are also down...? I'd imagine an awful lot of their losses would be from people winning, so how the...?


Fewer players.
 
2014-03-29 08:59:10 AM

Tokin42: tirob: FTA:  "The Culinary is the largest union in Nevada, with some 55,000 workers including bartenders, food service workers, housekeepers, cooks, porters and others at casinos and properties downtown and on the Las Vegas Strip."

All of them working hard to keep the mathematically challenged casino patrons drunk, stuffed with food, and comfortable in their hotel rooms while the casino owners relieve said patrons of their money.

A little background on the UNITE-HERE Culinary local's problem with their healthcare:

UNITE HERE's Harshly Critical Report About Obamacare
http://onlabor.org/2014/03/11/unite-heres-harshly-critical-report-ab ou t-obamacare/

:

They are not the only Union having buyers remorse over backing Obamacare, serves them right hope they all end up on exchanges.



Democrats in Washington are telling unions to stop griping about the impact of Obamacare on their members. He quoted a Senate aide saying, 'Labor needs to regress to the mean."

Why unions are turning on Obamacare

Some Unions Angry With Obamacare's Unintended Consequences
 
2014-03-29 09:18:56 AM

robohobo: I would love to go back in time and visit Las Vegas when it was run but the rob. Fantastically corrupt, but far more classy.


img.fark.net

Say the word and I'll come down and kick their asses!
 
2014-03-29 09:26:04 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Actually, yes, that is the time when a strike may be called for because the management will likely try to use the downturn as an excuse to cut benefits, wages, or jobs.

FTFA:  The new contracts preserve health benefits and add measures to protect housekeepers from hazardous work conditions. The deals also aim to restore workers laid off when restaurants closed during the recession.

So, they're not even asking for more money, just that their health insurance isn't reduced, that workplace safety be improved, and that jobs be restored to those who lost them due to no fault of their own.


Thread over.
 
2014-03-29 09:28:10 AM

Tokin42: tirob: FTA:  "The Culinary is the largest union in Nevada, with some 55,000 workers including bartenders, food service workers, housekeepers, cooks, porters and others at casinos and properties downtown and on the Las Vegas Strip."

All of them working hard to keep the mathematically challenged casino patrons drunk, stuffed with food, and comfortable in their hotel rooms while the casino owners relieve said patrons of their money.

A little background on the UNITE-HERE Culinary local's problem with their healthcare:

UNITE HERE's Harshly Critical Report About Obamacare
http://onlabor.org/2014/03/11/unite-heres-harshly-critical-report-ab ou t-obamacare/


I hope they go out on strike and stay out on strike for ten years.  I for one wouldn't miss the casinos one bit.
 
2014-03-29 09:38:53 AM
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2014-03-29 09:46:13 AM

TuteTibiImperes: So, they're not even asking for more money, just that their health insurance isn't reduced, that workplace safety be improved, and that jobs be restored to those who lost them due to no fault of their own.


THOSE EVIL BASTARDS!
 
2014-03-29 09:54:10 AM

maddogdelta: TuteTibiImperes: So, they're not even asking for more money, just that their health insurance isn't reduced, that workplace safety be improved, and that jobs be restored to those who lost them due to no fault of their own.

THOSE EVIL BASTARDS!


I typically hate unions, but in this case their demands seem reasonable and fair.
 
2014-03-29 10:27:04 AM

Headso: Wouldn't want to cut into Sheldon Aldelson's profits huh subs? How many more billions do these guys need before people like you can start rooting for the middle class worker?


The casinos don't do nearly as well as you seem to think.  Bankruptcies are common.

TuteTibiImperes: So, they're not even asking for more money, just that their health insurance isn't reduced, that workplace safety be improved, and that jobs be restored to those who lost them due to no fault of their own.


Jobs restored to workers whose work isn't needed because the customer volume simply isn't there.

The Gentleman Caller: Las Vegas says it's revenue is down. Because Vegas has a history of being on the up'n'up.


It's down.  You can see the thinner crowds.  (Note:  I live in Las Vegas.)
 
2014-03-29 10:46:38 AM
As long as the Margariata bar on the strip isn't affected I'm cool. *checks article* you bastards!

/ never been to that bar(s)
 
2014-03-29 10:59:04 AM

cman: A point would exist if money was being actually lost, as in, you know, running at a loss.


The net loss for Nevada casinos in 2013 was more than $1 Billion.  Was just there this month.  Business is definitely down.
 
2014-03-29 11:01:58 AM
No shocker.... Unions love to destroy their own industries.
 
2014-03-29 11:06:59 AM

Ontos: No shocker.... Unions love to destroy their own industries.


Business is bad we need you employees to pitch in do the job of 2, take a pay cut, and pay more for health care. Business is good executive bonus time and huge dividends for shareholders yay! Its not really the employees job to save an industry, they can switch to another if needed. Stop blaming them for not sacrificing to make other people money. If you really want to be fair reward their sacrifice with equity in the company.
 
2014-03-29 11:19:57 AM

cman: Deep Contact: Lapdance: It's all these Tourists that go to LV and Don't gamble! The "Perks", the shows, the restaurants, the fancy pools and everything else were built as Extras for the people who came to Play or as something to keep the wife and kids busy the rest of the time. Now there are all these people who come to LV and think rolling a 20 into a machine once is gambling. Did everyone forget why and how this all got built in the first place? I go to AC and LV specifically TO gamble. In LV I still stay on the strip but I always get a car and spend my days downtown and around at all the Off-Strip places. By now I've been in almost every casino in LV except for a few of the really small ones. Definitely every one in AC. I play all day every day. AM session, Afternoon session and Evening session. Never seen a show and have no desire to. The Pools? I'm over 60 now so forget it. Clubbing? Right, last time I did that was when Disco was cool and that didn't last did it. Fine Dining? I don't know what Gourmet Cuisine that You are eating at home but all the off-strip buffets cost about 1/2 of what the Tourists pay stuck on the strip. $4.99 for b'fast at Palace Station! it's all the same eggs, bacon, sausage and whatever style of home fries they all have anyway, what's the difference? Oh you have a fine casino at home. Well that tells me you don't have any idea of how they really work. I have no desire to go into the ones they've built here in MD. I checked out one a few years ago and wasn't impressed. Besides, I go Away to Stay and Play several times a year, that's the whole reason for it all. I have no desire to drive right down the road and play all the time. That's like sitting home getting Drunk and watching TV, what's the point?

Saves a lot of time. I also save time when going to the casino by lowering my car window a crack and toss out $20's. Never win, and get more pleasure watching people fight over the money.

Gambling is fun. Imagining what you will do with a ...


It's an occasional thing you might do like anything else. You don't do it all the time, if I played anymore than what I do now, I'd get tired of it. I hit LV 2X a year for a whole week and AC on shorter 2 or 3 night mid-week trips 3 or 4 times a year. The Play whatever your game or games of choice is the Fun. I don't Sink my money into a Boat, been there done that years ago. Don't spend hundreds or thousands on Golf, Skiing or Tennis or any of that stuff. This is where my "disposable entertainment dollars" go. Anyone who goes into a Casino expecting to win is delusional. You have a Limit on your Sessions and stick to it. I've come out ahead at times, mostly come back with 1/2 or better of my "Bankroll" and have Never gone Broke. When you take what you expect to play with and come back with most of it or more, that's a Win. It's what you expected to pay for being entertained. It's that simple. What I do get is a break on how much my rooms cost in LV and I haven't paid to stay in AC for like 7 years. Most of all I like being treated like a High Roller the whole time though I'm far from it. Whatever turns you on.
 
2014-03-29 11:30:05 AM
Meanwhile, the Indian casinos are doing quite nicely, thank you.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/indian-casinos-set-new-revenue -r ecord-topping-2813-billion

The ones in California and Arizona, especially, are probably viewed by Vegas casino operators as their most dangerous competition.
 
2014-03-29 11:35:28 AM
Like every business ever with contract negotiations coming up, "Oh we're bankrupt, we're barely surviving, profits are down!!"  After employee consessions:  "Yippee, bonuses all around."   It's like Hollywood accounting when negotiaons are in progress or looming.
 
2014-03-29 11:38:32 AM
Oh no, fewer people are throwing their money away by gambling.

Ya ya, I know, everyone has a story about someone they know who hit it big in Vegas.
 
2014-03-29 11:42:27 AM
I work at one of the biggest casinos on the strip. You can absolutely tell without a doubt the business is down and crowds are thinner, and I don't even have access to any of the numbers.
 
2014-03-29 11:53:29 AM
God hates Unions like he hated Fred Phelps

/sure is hot in Heaven, Fred said
 
2014-03-29 11:57:49 AM

Pincy: Oh no, fewer people are throwing their money away by gambling.

Ya ya, I know, everyone has a story about someone they know who hit it big in Vegas.


I doubt that's the explanation for the revenue drop.  What I would guess is going on is that more people are doing their gambling closer to home now.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/macau-gambling-revenue-surges-record-4 0- percent-february-051047828--sector.html

For example, Vegas is in the process of losing its critical Asian market to Macau, among other places.
 
2014-03-29 12:18:41 PM

AtlanticCoast63: Las Vegas revenues down 14%, and winnings down 20%. Las Vegas workers unions: "This is a perfect time to strike"

"...When a city has grown so large and overcrowded that it is in immediate danger of collapse...when food and clean water flow into the city at a rate just sufficient to feed every mouth and every hand must work constantly to keep it that way...when all transportation is involved in moving vital supplies and none is left over to move people out of the city should the need arise...then it is that Crazy Eddie leads the movers of garbage out on strike for better working conditions."

/Too obscure?
//Fyunch-click


Of course not, nothing is obscure on Fark.  Did you really think the basement-dwelling nerds here haven't read Niven?
 
2014-03-29 12:46:35 PM

tirob: Pincy: Oh no, fewer people are throwing their money away by gambling.

Ya ya, I know, everyone has a story about someone they know who hit it big in Vegas.

I doubt that's the explanation for the revenue drop.  What I would guess is going on is that more people are doing their gambling closer to home now.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/macau-gambling-revenue-surges-record-4 0- percent-february-051047828--sector.html

For example, Vegas is in the process of losing its critical Asian market to Macau, among other places.


Has anybody blamed Obama yet.




Obama Draws Fire For Las Vegas Comments Ahead Of Visit
 
2014-03-29 01:06:46 PM

hasty ambush: Tokin42: tirob: FTA:  "The Culinary is the largest union in Nevada, with some 55,000 workers including bartenders, food service workers, housekeepers, cooks, porters and others at casinos and properties downtown and on the Las Vegas Strip."

All of them working hard to keep the mathematically challenged casino patrons drunk, stuffed with food, and comfortable in their hotel rooms while the casino owners relieve said patrons of their money.

A little background on the UNITE-HERE Culinary local's problem with their healthcare:

UNITE HERE's Harshly Critical Report About Obamacare
http://onlabor.org/2014/03/11/unite-heres-harshly-critical-report-ab ou t-obamacare/

:
They are not the only Union having buyers remorse over backing Obamacare, serves them right hope they all end up on exchanges.

Democrats in Washington are telling unions to stop griping about the impact of Obamacare on their members. He quoted a Senate aide saying, 'Labor needs to regress to the mean."

Why unions are turning on Obamacare

Some Unions Angry With Obamacare's Unintended Consequences


I thought unions were lying liars that shouldn't be trusted?

Which is it?
 
2014-03-29 01:29:58 PM

Iczer: Wait, their profits are down, and yet casino patron winning numbers are also down...? I'd imagine an awful lot of their losses would be from people winning, so how the...?


Well, to play a Devil's Advocate, people -have- to play to win. Less people playing, less people winning.
 
2014-03-29 01:45:03 PM

grumpfuff: hasty ambush: Tokin42: tirob: FTA:  "The Culinary is the largest union in Nevada, with some 55,000 workers including bartenders, food service workers, housekeepers, cooks, porters and others at casinos and properties downtown and on the Las Vegas Strip."

All of them working hard to keep the mathematically challenged casino patrons drunk, stuffed with food, and comfortable in their hotel rooms while the casino owners relieve said patrons of their money.

A little background on the UNITE-HERE Culinary local's problem with their healthcare:

UNITE HERE's Harshly Critical Report About Obamacare
http://onlabor.org/2014/03/11/unite-heres-harshly-critical-report-ab ou t-obamacare/

:
They are not the only Union having buyers remorse over backing Obamacare, serves them right hope they all end up on exchanges.

Democrats in Washington are telling unions to stop griping about the impact of Obamacare on their members. He quoted a Senate aide saying, 'Labor needs to regress to the mean."

Why unions are turning on Obamacare

Some Unions Angry With Obamacare's Unintended Consequences

I thought unions were lying liars that shouldn't be trusted?

Which is it?


Yes, which is it? Were they lyig when they supportd Obamacare or are they now lying  now that they are against it?

Of course that brings up the question if you still support Obamacare are you anti-union/labor?
 
2014-03-29 01:47:26 PM

Ontos: No shocker.... Unions love to destroy their own industries.


That's all they're good for.
 
2014-03-29 02:07:03 PM

hasty ambush: grumpfuff: hasty ambush: Tokin42: tirob: FTA:  "The Culinary is the largest union in Nevada, with some 55,000 workers including bartenders, food service workers, housekeepers, cooks, porters and others at casinos and properties downtown and on the Las Vegas Strip."

All of them working hard to keep the mathematically challenged casino patrons drunk, stuffed with food, and comfortable in their hotel rooms while the casino owners relieve said patrons of their money.

A little background on the UNITE-HERE Culinary local's problem with their healthcare:

UNITE HERE's Harshly Critical Report About Obamacare
http://onlabor.org/2014/03/11/unite-heres-harshly-critical-report-ab ou t-obamacare/

:
They are not the only Union having buyers remorse over backing Obamacare, serves them right hope they all end up on exchanges.

Democrats in Washington are telling unions to stop griping about the impact of Obamacare on their members. He quoted a Senate aide saying, 'Labor needs to regress to the mean."

Why unions are turning on Obamacare

Some Unions Angry With Obamacare's Unintended Consequences

I thought unions were lying liars that shouldn't be trusted?

Which is it?

Yes, which is it? Were they lyig when they supportd Obamacare or are they now lying  now that they are against it?

Of course that brings up the question if you still support Obamacare are you anti-union/labor?


Your links specifically say the unions don't want to replace the ACA, they want to reform it. So there's that. They're also complaining about the "keep your doctor" nonsense.

There's also still the point about you being viciously anti-union until they say something you agree with.

Really, you should just go back to posting pictures and fleeing the thread. You somehow looked less stupid doing that.

/why am I arguing with a bad troll?
 
2014-03-29 04:43:03 PM

grumpfuff: hasty ambush: grumpfuff: hasty ambush: Tokin42: tirob: FTA:  "The Culinary is the largest union in Nevada, with some 55,000 workers including bartenders, food service workers, housekeepers, cooks, porters and others at casinos and properties downtown and on the Las Vegas Strip."

All of them working hard to keep the mathematically challenged casino patrons drunk, stuffed with food, and comfortable in their hotel rooms while the casino owners relieve said patrons of their money.

A little background on the UNITE-HERE Culinary local's problem with their healthcare:

UNITE HERE's Harshly Critical Report About Obamacare
http://onlabor.org/2014/03/11/unite-heres-harshly-critical-report-ab ou t-obamacare/

:
They are not the only Union having buyers remorse over backing Obamacare, serves them right hope they all end up on exchanges.

Democrats in Washington are telling unions to stop griping about the impact of Obamacare on their members. He quoted a Senate aide saying, 'Labor needs to regress to the mean."

Why unions are turning on Obamacare

Some Unions Angry With Obamacare's Unintended Consequences

I thought unions were lying liars that shouldn't be trusted?

Which is it?

Yes, which is it? Were they lyig when they supportd Obamacare or are they now lying  now that they are against it?

Of course that brings up the question if you still support Obamacare are you anti-union/labor?

Your links specifically say the unions don't want to replace the ACA, they want to reform it. So there's that. They're also complaining about the "keep your doctor" nonsense.

There's also still the point about you being viciously anti-union until they say something you agree with.

Really, you should just go back to posting pictures and fleeing the thread. You somehow looked less stupid doing that.

/why am I arguing with a bad troll?

 
2014-03-29 05:34:26 PM

tirob: Pincy: Oh no, fewer people are throwing their money away by gambling.

Ya ya, I know, everyone has a story about someone they know who hit it big in Vegas.

I doubt that's the explanation for the revenue drop.  What I would guess is going on is that more people are doing their gambling closer to home now.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/macau-gambling-revenue-surges-record-4 0- percent-february-051047828--sector.html

For example, Vegas is in the process of losing its critical Asian market to Macau, among other places.


I think you hit the nail on the head.  The biggest casino in the US is Foxwoods, a tribal casino in Middle-of-nowhere Connecticut but by chance, in a location that's less than two hours away from both Boston and New York City.  They've had amazing success during their first 20 years but now both NY and Mass have opened or are opening casinos.  Rhode Island has one now too.  People will drive two hours to ski on bigger mountains but slots are slots.  Why drive two hours when you need only go 30 minutes?  Closer still is online gambling which will probably put in end to all these grand palaces one day.
 
2014-03-30 07:29:51 AM

Persnickety: People will drive two hours to ski on bigger mountains but slots are slots.  Why drive two hours when you need only go 30 minutes?

Agreed.  Around here where I am, the Atlantic City casinos have been hurt very badly by competing joints in Pennsylvania, which have drawn off big chunks of their market from this Commonwealth, New York, and even New Jersey.

Persnickety: Closer still is online gambling which will probably put in end to all these grand palaces one day.


Not as sure about this.  Part of the appeal of casinos, as the existence of the labor union mentioned in TFA testifies to, is the idea that they are a place you can go to to get boozed up, stuffed with food, and otherwise cossetted.  (And entertained, mostly by people on a stage, but sometimes also by hookers.)  I think there will always be a market for this sort of thing.  Online gambling may cause some slot barns to shut down, but I would bet that most casinos will continue going on strong.
 
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