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(AP)   Las Vegas revenues down 14%, and winnings down 20%. Las Vegas workers unions: "This is a perfect time to strike"   (hosted.ap.org) divider line 71
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2014-03-29 10:46:38 AM
As long as the Margariata bar on the strip isn't affected I'm cool. *checks article* you bastards!

/ never been to that bar(s)
 
2014-03-29 10:59:04 AM

cman: A point would exist if money was being actually lost, as in, you know, running at a loss.


The net loss for Nevada casinos in 2013 was more than $1 Billion.  Was just there this month.  Business is definitely down.
 
2014-03-29 11:01:58 AM
No shocker.... Unions love to destroy their own industries.
 
2014-03-29 11:06:59 AM

Ontos: No shocker.... Unions love to destroy their own industries.


Business is bad we need you employees to pitch in do the job of 2, take a pay cut, and pay more for health care. Business is good executive bonus time and huge dividends for shareholders yay! Its not really the employees job to save an industry, they can switch to another if needed. Stop blaming them for not sacrificing to make other people money. If you really want to be fair reward their sacrifice with equity in the company.
 
2014-03-29 11:19:57 AM

cman: Deep Contact: Lapdance: It's all these Tourists that go to LV and Don't gamble! The "Perks", the shows, the restaurants, the fancy pools and everything else were built as Extras for the people who came to Play or as something to keep the wife and kids busy the rest of the time. Now there are all these people who come to LV and think rolling a 20 into a machine once is gambling. Did everyone forget why and how this all got built in the first place? I go to AC and LV specifically TO gamble. In LV I still stay on the strip but I always get a car and spend my days downtown and around at all the Off-Strip places. By now I've been in almost every casino in LV except for a few of the really small ones. Definitely every one in AC. I play all day every day. AM session, Afternoon session and Evening session. Never seen a show and have no desire to. The Pools? I'm over 60 now so forget it. Clubbing? Right, last time I did that was when Disco was cool and that didn't last did it. Fine Dining? I don't know what Gourmet Cuisine that You are eating at home but all the off-strip buffets cost about 1/2 of what the Tourists pay stuck on the strip. $4.99 for b'fast at Palace Station! it's all the same eggs, bacon, sausage and whatever style of home fries they all have anyway, what's the difference? Oh you have a fine casino at home. Well that tells me you don't have any idea of how they really work. I have no desire to go into the ones they've built here in MD. I checked out one a few years ago and wasn't impressed. Besides, I go Away to Stay and Play several times a year, that's the whole reason for it all. I have no desire to drive right down the road and play all the time. That's like sitting home getting Drunk and watching TV, what's the point?

Saves a lot of time. I also save time when going to the casino by lowering my car window a crack and toss out $20's. Never win, and get more pleasure watching people fight over the money.

Gambling is fun. Imagining what you will do with a ...


It's an occasional thing you might do like anything else. You don't do it all the time, if I played anymore than what I do now, I'd get tired of it. I hit LV 2X a year for a whole week and AC on shorter 2 or 3 night mid-week trips 3 or 4 times a year. The Play whatever your game or games of choice is the Fun. I don't Sink my money into a Boat, been there done that years ago. Don't spend hundreds or thousands on Golf, Skiing or Tennis or any of that stuff. This is where my "disposable entertainment dollars" go. Anyone who goes into a Casino expecting to win is delusional. You have a Limit on your Sessions and stick to it. I've come out ahead at times, mostly come back with 1/2 or better of my "Bankroll" and have Never gone Broke. When you take what you expect to play with and come back with most of it or more, that's a Win. It's what you expected to pay for being entertained. It's that simple. What I do get is a break on how much my rooms cost in LV and I haven't paid to stay in AC for like 7 years. Most of all I like being treated like a High Roller the whole time though I'm far from it. Whatever turns you on.
 
2014-03-29 11:30:05 AM
Meanwhile, the Indian casinos are doing quite nicely, thank you.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/indian-casinos-set-new-revenue -r ecord-topping-2813-billion

The ones in California and Arizona, especially, are probably viewed by Vegas casino operators as their most dangerous competition.
 
2014-03-29 11:35:28 AM
Like every business ever with contract negotiations coming up, "Oh we're bankrupt, we're barely surviving, profits are down!!"  After employee consessions:  "Yippee, bonuses all around."   It's like Hollywood accounting when negotiaons are in progress or looming.
 
2014-03-29 11:38:32 AM
Oh no, fewer people are throwing their money away by gambling.

Ya ya, I know, everyone has a story about someone they know who hit it big in Vegas.
 
2014-03-29 11:42:27 AM
I work at one of the biggest casinos on the strip. You can absolutely tell without a doubt the business is down and crowds are thinner, and I don't even have access to any of the numbers.
 
2014-03-29 11:53:29 AM
God hates Unions like he hated Fred Phelps

/sure is hot in Heaven, Fred said
 
2014-03-29 11:57:49 AM

Pincy: Oh no, fewer people are throwing their money away by gambling.

Ya ya, I know, everyone has a story about someone they know who hit it big in Vegas.


I doubt that's the explanation for the revenue drop.  What I would guess is going on is that more people are doing their gambling closer to home now.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/macau-gambling-revenue-surges-record-4 0- percent-february-051047828--sector.html

For example, Vegas is in the process of losing its critical Asian market to Macau, among other places.
 
2014-03-29 12:18:41 PM

AtlanticCoast63: Las Vegas revenues down 14%, and winnings down 20%. Las Vegas workers unions: "This is a perfect time to strike"

"...When a city has grown so large and overcrowded that it is in immediate danger of collapse...when food and clean water flow into the city at a rate just sufficient to feed every mouth and every hand must work constantly to keep it that way...when all transportation is involved in moving vital supplies and none is left over to move people out of the city should the need arise...then it is that Crazy Eddie leads the movers of garbage out on strike for better working conditions."

/Too obscure?
//Fyunch-click


Of course not, nothing is obscure on Fark.  Did you really think the basement-dwelling nerds here haven't read Niven?
 
2014-03-29 12:46:35 PM

tirob: Pincy: Oh no, fewer people are throwing their money away by gambling.

Ya ya, I know, everyone has a story about someone they know who hit it big in Vegas.

I doubt that's the explanation for the revenue drop.  What I would guess is going on is that more people are doing their gambling closer to home now.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/macau-gambling-revenue-surges-record-4 0- percent-february-051047828--sector.html

For example, Vegas is in the process of losing its critical Asian market to Macau, among other places.


Has anybody blamed Obama yet.




Obama Draws Fire For Las Vegas Comments Ahead Of Visit
 
2014-03-29 01:06:46 PM

hasty ambush: Tokin42: tirob: FTA:  "The Culinary is the largest union in Nevada, with some 55,000 workers including bartenders, food service workers, housekeepers, cooks, porters and others at casinos and properties downtown and on the Las Vegas Strip."

All of them working hard to keep the mathematically challenged casino patrons drunk, stuffed with food, and comfortable in their hotel rooms while the casino owners relieve said patrons of their money.

A little background on the UNITE-HERE Culinary local's problem with their healthcare:

UNITE HERE's Harshly Critical Report About Obamacare
http://onlabor.org/2014/03/11/unite-heres-harshly-critical-report-ab ou t-obamacare/

:
They are not the only Union having buyers remorse over backing Obamacare, serves them right hope they all end up on exchanges.

Democrats in Washington are telling unions to stop griping about the impact of Obamacare on their members. He quoted a Senate aide saying, 'Labor needs to regress to the mean."

Why unions are turning on Obamacare

Some Unions Angry With Obamacare's Unintended Consequences


I thought unions were lying liars that shouldn't be trusted?

Which is it?
 
2014-03-29 01:29:58 PM

Iczer: Wait, their profits are down, and yet casino patron winning numbers are also down...? I'd imagine an awful lot of their losses would be from people winning, so how the...?


Well, to play a Devil's Advocate, people -have- to play to win. Less people playing, less people winning.
 
2014-03-29 01:45:03 PM

grumpfuff: hasty ambush: Tokin42: tirob: FTA:  "The Culinary is the largest union in Nevada, with some 55,000 workers including bartenders, food service workers, housekeepers, cooks, porters and others at casinos and properties downtown and on the Las Vegas Strip."

All of them working hard to keep the mathematically challenged casino patrons drunk, stuffed with food, and comfortable in their hotel rooms while the casino owners relieve said patrons of their money.

A little background on the UNITE-HERE Culinary local's problem with their healthcare:

UNITE HERE's Harshly Critical Report About Obamacare
http://onlabor.org/2014/03/11/unite-heres-harshly-critical-report-ab ou t-obamacare/

:
They are not the only Union having buyers remorse over backing Obamacare, serves them right hope they all end up on exchanges.

Democrats in Washington are telling unions to stop griping about the impact of Obamacare on their members. He quoted a Senate aide saying, 'Labor needs to regress to the mean."

Why unions are turning on Obamacare

Some Unions Angry With Obamacare's Unintended Consequences

I thought unions were lying liars that shouldn't be trusted?

Which is it?


Yes, which is it? Were they lyig when they supportd Obamacare or are they now lying  now that they are against it?

Of course that brings up the question if you still support Obamacare are you anti-union/labor?
 
2014-03-29 01:47:26 PM

Ontos: No shocker.... Unions love to destroy their own industries.


That's all they're good for.
 
2014-03-29 02:07:03 PM

hasty ambush: grumpfuff: hasty ambush: Tokin42: tirob: FTA:  "The Culinary is the largest union in Nevada, with some 55,000 workers including bartenders, food service workers, housekeepers, cooks, porters and others at casinos and properties downtown and on the Las Vegas Strip."

All of them working hard to keep the mathematically challenged casino patrons drunk, stuffed with food, and comfortable in their hotel rooms while the casino owners relieve said patrons of their money.

A little background on the UNITE-HERE Culinary local's problem with their healthcare:

UNITE HERE's Harshly Critical Report About Obamacare
http://onlabor.org/2014/03/11/unite-heres-harshly-critical-report-ab ou t-obamacare/

:
They are not the only Union having buyers remorse over backing Obamacare, serves them right hope they all end up on exchanges.

Democrats in Washington are telling unions to stop griping about the impact of Obamacare on their members. He quoted a Senate aide saying, 'Labor needs to regress to the mean."

Why unions are turning on Obamacare

Some Unions Angry With Obamacare's Unintended Consequences

I thought unions were lying liars that shouldn't be trusted?

Which is it?

Yes, which is it? Were they lyig when they supportd Obamacare or are they now lying  now that they are against it?

Of course that brings up the question if you still support Obamacare are you anti-union/labor?


Your links specifically say the unions don't want to replace the ACA, they want to reform it. So there's that. They're also complaining about the "keep your doctor" nonsense.

There's also still the point about you being viciously anti-union until they say something you agree with.

Really, you should just go back to posting pictures and fleeing the thread. You somehow looked less stupid doing that.

/why am I arguing with a bad troll?
 
2014-03-29 04:43:03 PM

grumpfuff: hasty ambush: grumpfuff: hasty ambush: Tokin42: tirob: FTA:  "The Culinary is the largest union in Nevada, with some 55,000 workers including bartenders, food service workers, housekeepers, cooks, porters and others at casinos and properties downtown and on the Las Vegas Strip."

All of them working hard to keep the mathematically challenged casino patrons drunk, stuffed with food, and comfortable in their hotel rooms while the casino owners relieve said patrons of their money.

A little background on the UNITE-HERE Culinary local's problem with their healthcare:

UNITE HERE's Harshly Critical Report About Obamacare
http://onlabor.org/2014/03/11/unite-heres-harshly-critical-report-ab ou t-obamacare/

:
They are not the only Union having buyers remorse over backing Obamacare, serves them right hope they all end up on exchanges.

Democrats in Washington are telling unions to stop griping about the impact of Obamacare on their members. He quoted a Senate aide saying, 'Labor needs to regress to the mean."

Why unions are turning on Obamacare

Some Unions Angry With Obamacare's Unintended Consequences

I thought unions were lying liars that shouldn't be trusted?

Which is it?

Yes, which is it? Were they lyig when they supportd Obamacare or are they now lying  now that they are against it?

Of course that brings up the question if you still support Obamacare are you anti-union/labor?

Your links specifically say the unions don't want to replace the ACA, they want to reform it. So there's that. They're also complaining about the "keep your doctor" nonsense.

There's also still the point about you being viciously anti-union until they say something you agree with.

Really, you should just go back to posting pictures and fleeing the thread. You somehow looked less stupid doing that.

/why am I arguing with a bad troll?

 
2014-03-29 05:34:26 PM

tirob: Pincy: Oh no, fewer people are throwing their money away by gambling.

Ya ya, I know, everyone has a story about someone they know who hit it big in Vegas.

I doubt that's the explanation for the revenue drop.  What I would guess is going on is that more people are doing their gambling closer to home now.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/macau-gambling-revenue-surges-record-4 0- percent-february-051047828--sector.html

For example, Vegas is in the process of losing its critical Asian market to Macau, among other places.


I think you hit the nail on the head.  The biggest casino in the US is Foxwoods, a tribal casino in Middle-of-nowhere Connecticut but by chance, in a location that's less than two hours away from both Boston and New York City.  They've had amazing success during their first 20 years but now both NY and Mass have opened or are opening casinos.  Rhode Island has one now too.  People will drive two hours to ski on bigger mountains but slots are slots.  Why drive two hours when you need only go 30 minutes?  Closer still is online gambling which will probably put in end to all these grand palaces one day.
 
2014-03-30 07:29:51 AM

Persnickety: People will drive two hours to ski on bigger mountains but slots are slots.  Why drive two hours when you need only go 30 minutes?

Agreed.  Around here where I am, the Atlantic City casinos have been hurt very badly by competing joints in Pennsylvania, which have drawn off big chunks of their market from this Commonwealth, New York, and even New Jersey.

Persnickety: Closer still is online gambling which will probably put in end to all these grand palaces one day.


Not as sure about this.  Part of the appeal of casinos, as the existence of the labor union mentioned in TFA testifies to, is the idea that they are a place you can go to to get boozed up, stuffed with food, and otherwise cossetted.  (And entertained, mostly by people on a stage, but sometimes also by hookers.)  I think there will always be a market for this sort of thing.  Online gambling may cause some slot barns to shut down, but I would bet that most casinos will continue going on strong.
 
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