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(io9)   Remember 35 years ago when we had a partial nuclear meltdown in Pennsylvania? Good times, good times   (observationdeck.io9.com) divider line 16
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2014-03-28 08:28:26 PM  
6 votes:
That would explain all of my nipples.
2014-03-28 08:54:45 PM  
3 votes:
www.voxboxcomics.com
2014-03-28 09:07:15 PM  
2 votes:
TMI, subby.
TMI.
2014-03-28 08:51:30 PM  
2 votes:
Pepsi syndrome?

/how big is the president?
//obscure?
2014-03-28 08:47:29 PM  
2 votes:

theorellior: I remember a friend of mine (I was maybe eight) wearing a T-shirt with a cartoony drawing of the cooling towers on it with smoke curling up out of them into the word "LIE". We were frankly skeptical of the nuclear industry at that point.



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Cooling towers do not work that way!
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-03-28 07:30:18 PM  
2 votes:
When Americans and their reactors go wrong, they make an expensive mess in a reactor building.

When Japanese and their reactors go wrong, they melt down and leak radiation.

When Russians and their reactors go wrong, they blow up and spew radiation.
2014-03-28 10:11:21 PM  
1 votes:

ginandbacon: MFAWG: ginandbacon: Oh wow. Now I feel very very old.

Right? And I remember the hay the 'No Nukes' crowd made of it, and the movie. Good times!

Oh yeah. The principal of my school got himself arrested demonstrating (Quaker school, lots of protesting and hiding Nicaraguans.) My mother and little brother went off to Seabrook for a protest. (They didn't get arrested.) But my best friend's father was a nuclear engineer and he very patiently explained that nuclear is really pretty safe and much cleaner that fossil fuels so I stayed home.

That might have been my first act of teenage rebellion...


Ha! I was attending this bastion of Librul Groupthink in the middle Seventies, where my parents had sent us to matriculate for reasons that had nothing at all to do with forced busing  and had a similar experience as they were trying to license the Bonneville plant, with ONE key difference: The local chapter of the Sierra Club demanded equal time, and it was done as a debate before the assembled student body.

Long story short, the PG&E guys all showed up in shirt and tie, and the Sierra Club types donned their best Deadhead gear, which endeared them to the crowd to no end. So after we all went into discussion groups, and I pointed out that the Sierra Club was doing some pretty base pandering, and hadn't really done much in the way of being convincing in terms of arguments. My suggestion was to redo the thing, but switch the clothes,

That didn't go far, LOL.
2014-03-28 09:46:05 PM  
1 votes:

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: gopher321: ZAZ: When Americans and their reactors go wrong, they make an expensive mess in a reactor building.

When Japanese and their reactors go wrong, they melt down and leak radiation.

When Russians and their reactors go wrong, they blow up and spew radiation.

Good lord, I really hope you are not equating Chernobyl and Fukushima with 3 Mile Island...


By all means, counsel, distinguish them for us.

/no, really. I'm curious.


The only thing that the three have in common is that they were nuclear accidents that had economic consequences.

Three Mile Island was purely an economic accident.  Nobody died.  I say that, but to be fair, statistically, 0.7 people died, if you assume the radiation release stayed in a big cloud and a person breathed it for some absurdly long time.  I remember doing this calculation in my nuclear engineering classes in college.  TMI is best analogized to this kind of accident:  you change the oil on your car and forget to put new oil back in.  Then you drive your car and the engine seizes up.  Car is ruined!  Won't ever run again!  Bummer!  Luckily, nobody hurt.

Fukushima is the result of a giant tidal wave of Biblical proportions.  The tidal wave wiped out infrastructure to keep the nuclear fuel cool.  Therefore, there was a meltdown, just like TMI, i.e., in the analogy, "shiat!  My car is shot!!"  Now, there are deaths from Fukushima, but those "deaths" are in the form of slightly elevated cancer rates among certain people living right next to the plant.  More people died from the evacuation of the public than those that will die from the Fukushima radiation.

Chernobyl.  Where to even farking start?  Russia farked this from the word jump, killed thousands of people, killed its soldiers trying to contain the mess, etc.  Bad all around.  No "car engine" analogy is even suitable.  Chernobyl had a fundamentally different (and inherently unstable) reactor design.  It is not physically possible for a U.S. reactor to explode like Chernobyl did.  (for the nuclear engineers:  U.S. reactors have a negative temperature and void coefficient of reactivity; for Chernobyl they were positive(!!) )

Want to talk about truly bad industry accidents?  Don't look at nuclear.  Check out the Bhopal India disaster:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhopal_disaster


tl;dr:  TMI is like forgetting to put oil in your car, now engine is ruined; Fukushima is like driving your car off a cliff, two people dead; Chernobyl is like the 9-11 terrorist attacks.
2014-03-28 09:28:11 PM  
1 votes:
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That's Wilford Brimley on the right, before the diabeetus.
2014-03-28 09:22:24 PM  
1 votes:

Summoner101: Clearly the solution is to rely on coal fired plants to continuously pollute our planet


I hope I get to be coal someday
2014-03-28 09:12:02 PM  
1 votes:
Clearly the solution is to rely on coal fired plants to continuously pollute our planet
2014-03-28 09:02:26 PM  
1 votes:
"remember"? no... i'm 32.

more interesting in PA is that town that's been on top of that burning coal mine for however many years.
2014-03-28 09:01:10 PM  
1 votes:
My third head remembers.
2014-03-28 08:49:51 PM  
1 votes:

insertdip: theorellior: I remember a friend of mine (I was maybe eight) wearing a T-shirt with a cartoony drawing of the cooling towers on it with smoke curling up out of them into the word "LIE". We were frankly skeptical of the nuclear industry at that point.




Cooling towers do not work that way!


You'll have to take that up with my friend or the cartoonist who drew the shirt, Morbo. All I know is, the sentiment was perfectly conveyed.
2014-03-28 08:49:12 PM  
1 votes:
I was two back then, and we (me, Mom, my baby brother, and Grandma) were shopping in the Colonial Park Mall when a woman came running towards us screaming "Three Mile Island's melting down!  We're all gonna die!"  She then grabbed me away from Mom, yelling "We have to save the children!" and tried to run off with me, but was tackled by my short but wide Grandma before she got too far.

The three of us ended up staying with my grandparents, who kept all doors and windows shut tightly, until we got word that everything was safe, while Dad went about business as usual in Camp Hill.
2014-03-28 07:52:42 PM  
1 votes:
Again. Go watch Pandora's Promise. It's on Netflix.
 
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