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2014-03-28 03:17:35 PM  
Every once in a while I miss living in L.A., and then I remember the traffic, graffiti, constant sound of sirens blaring and I find myself relieved to be out of that crazy place.
 
2014-03-28 03:24:21 PM  
I love Los Angeles, but then again I stay in a really nice area- Palos Verdes- and I don't drive long distances.
 
2014-03-28 03:32:49 PM  

vernonFL: I love Los Angeles, but then again I stay in a really nice area- Palos Verdes- and I don't drive long distances.


I don't blame you, you live in paradise....not in the valley.
 
2014-03-28 03:44:54 PM  

vernonFL: I love Los Angeles, but then again I stay in a really nice area- Palos Verdes- and I don't drive long distances.



I love L.A. as well.....but only because I went college in Malibu.
 
2014-03-28 03:48:15 PM  
Hate New York City
It's cold and it's damp
And all the people dressed like monkeys
Let's leave Chicago to the Eskimos
That town's a little too rugged
For you and me, you bad girl

Rollin' down the Imperial Highway
With a big nasty redhead at my side
Santa Ana winds blowin' hot from the north
And we was born to ride

Roll down the window, put down the top
Crank up the Beach Boys, baby
Don't let the music stop
We're gonna ride it till we just can't ride it no more

From the South Bay to the Valley
From the West Side to the East Side
Everybody's very happy
'Cause the sun is shining all the time
Looks like another perfect day

I love L.A. (We love it)
I love L.A. (We love it)

Look at that mountain
Look at those trees
Look at that bum over there, man
He's down on his knees
Look at these women
There ain't nothin' like em nowhere

Century Boulevard (We love it)
Victory Boulevard (We love it)
Santa Monica Boulevard (We love it)
Sixth Street (We love it, we love it)
We love L.A.

I love L.A. (We love it)
I love L.A. (We love it)
I love L.A. (We love it)
 
2014-03-28 03:48:29 PM  
On its own, LA would be the 87th most populous nation, edging out Bolivia, Hungary, Sweden, and just behind Benin. But at just 4,752 sq miles, it would be the 175th largest nation, down there with Brunei, Trinidad and Tobago, and French Polynesia. So basically, it's a country the size of Sweden, crammed into an area 1/2030th the size.

No wonder they have shiatty traffic.
 
2014-03-28 03:50:45 PM  

The_Sponge: vernonFL: I love Los Angeles, but then again I stay in a really nice area- Palos Verdes- and I don't drive long distances.


I love L.A. as well.....but only because I went college in Malibu.


Pepperdine? Yeah that is about the most beautiful campus I've ever seen.
 
2014-03-28 03:57:22 PM  

vernonFL: The_Sponge: vernonFL: I love Los Angeles, but then again I stay in a really nice area- Palos Verdes- and I don't drive long distances.


I love L.A. as well.....but only because I went college in Malibu.

Pepperdine? Yeah that is about the most beautiful campus I've ever seen.



Yup.  Being a kid from the Seattle area, it was AWESOME.
 
2014-03-28 04:30:27 PM  
You deserve it for living there.
 
2014-03-28 04:31:23 PM  
Walking in L.A. Walking in L.A.? Nobody walks in L.A.
 
2014-03-28 04:35:58 PM  
I have so many cities that I want to visit and LA is straight at the bottom of the list.

/Superficial and fake=no thanks
 
2014-03-28 04:36:28 PM  
10 million people, and almost 20 Americans.
 
2014-03-28 04:37:16 PM  
Actually, traffic was super-breezy this morning. I made it from Sepulveda to Broadway in 25 mins. I left the house @ a gentlemanly 0645. Had I left 20 minutes later, that 25 minute jaunt would have easily been an hour. Timing is everything whilst driving the mean freeways and streets of LA.

/CSB
 
2014-03-28 04:38:47 PM  

Beerguy: vernonFL: I love Los Angeles, but then again I stay in a really nice area- Palos Verdes- and I don't drive long distances.

I don't blame you, you live in paradise....not in the valley.


Its not so bad here in the valley. My commute sucks since I have to drive to Malibu everyday, but I like living in the valley.
 
2014-03-28 04:38:59 PM  
"...people in LA ..."

forum.sportsmogul.com
 
2014-03-28 04:39:28 PM  

Buttknuckle: I have so many cities that I want to visit and LA is straight at the bottom of the list.

/Superficial and fake=no thanks


Ex-Texan: 10 million people, and almost 20 Americans.



Love the hate from asshats who've never been
 
2014-03-28 04:40:19 PM  
In the summer. In the city. In the summer. In the city.
 
2014-03-28 04:40:33 PM  
A couple speak english too...
 
2014-03-28 04:43:06 PM  
There's only 1.6 million people in New York County, therefore LA > NY.
 
2014-03-28 04:44:01 PM  

BobCumbers: A couple speak english too...


LAUGHTER OBIGOTRY.
 
2014-03-28 04:44:03 PM  
Did you see any bees?
static6.businessinsider.com
 
2014-03-28 04:44:27 PM  

Beerguy: vernonFL: I love Los Angeles, but then again I stay in a really nice area- Palos Verdes- and I don't drive long distances.

I don't blame you, you live in paradise....not in the valley.


I LIKE living in the Valley. :P

/is looking at the 405 right now
//it isn't crowded
///it will be in about an hour
 
2014-03-28 04:45:33 PM  

Lorelle: Beerguy: vernonFL: I love Los Angeles, but then again I stay in a really nice area- Palos Verdes- and I don't drive long distances.

I don't blame you, you live in paradise....not in the valley.

I LIKE living in the Valley. :P

/is looking at the 405 right now
//it isn't crowded
///it will be in about an hour


Hey, we're neighbors.

/no ho
 
2014-03-28 04:46:34 PM  

drew46n2: Buttknuckle: I have so many cities that I want to visit and LA is straight at the bottom of the list.

/Superficial and fake=no thanks

Ex-Texan: 10 million people, and almost 20 Americans.


Love the hate from asshats who've never been


I've never been inside a sewer system either.
 
2014-03-28 04:46:53 PM  
So here's my thing:

In LA, every damn time they mention a highway they put "the" in front of it. The 405, the 5, etc. Lived in the Bay Area for 20 years and never heard it but go to L.A. and even the damn broadcasters do it.

Knock that shiat off. Or there will be hell to pay when I am King.
 
2014-03-28 04:47:58 PM  
And all of Ireland has only 6 million people.

Yeah, keep increasing population Cali. there's no concern about over use.   Water, electricity,  garbage pollution will never become an issue.    More immigration will be a real plus.
 
2014-03-28 04:48:53 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: The 405, the 5, etc.


just go with it
 
2014-03-28 04:48:55 PM  
Is that with or without counting the undocumented illegals?
 
2014-03-28 04:50:38 PM  

Buttknuckle: I have so many cities that I want to visit and LA is straight at the bottom of the list.

/Superficial and fake=no thanks

 You know, I hear that shiat a lot from people who have never been to L.A.  And I've been all around the world, and I've found that the ratio of superficial and fake people stays around the same just about everywhere I go.  Every town in every country has salt of the earth and snakes in the grass.  I do find, however, that the rate of judgmental, ignorant twats who think they know all there is to know about L.A. and its denizens from watching TV and anecdotes from other judgmental twats, jumps when you leave Southern California.
 
2014-03-28 04:51:14 PM  

biscuitsngravy: Actually, traffic was super-breezy this morning. I made it from Sepulveda to Broadway in 25 mins. I left the house @ a gentlemanly 0645. Had I left 20 minutes later, that 25 minute jaunt would have easily been an hour. Timing is everything whilst driving the mean freeways and streets of LA.

/CSB


abigpicturewindow.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-03-28 04:51:45 PM  

netcentric: And all of Ireland has only 6 million people.

Yeah, keep increasing population Cali. there's no concern about over use.   Water, electricity,  garbage pollution will never become an issue.    More immigration will be a real plus.


the more people in California when it sinks the better
 
2014-03-28 04:51:47 PM  

drew46n2: just go with it


You are so not invited to my coronation.
 
2014-03-28 04:51:57 PM  
I drove up there last week ... I see nothing has gotten better from 6 years ago (the last time I bothered to go to the E3 in person).

I thought San Diego had gotten overcrowded, then I ran off to get some numbers.

San Diego County: ~ 3 million on ~4,200 square miles
vs
LA County: ~10 million on ~4,060 square miles

Fark that.
 
2014-03-28 04:52:26 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Is that with or without counting the undocumented illegals?


With the undocumented, there's like a billion of us. That's why we get to rule the country.
 
2014-03-28 04:53:05 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: So here's my thing:

In LA, every damn time they mention a highway they put "the" in front of it. The 405, the 5, etc. Lived in the Bay Area for 20 years and never heard it but go to L.A. and even the damn broadcasters do it.

Knock that shiat off. Or there will be hell to pay when I am King.


Huh. I thought that was a West Coast thing. Out here, we only use "the" when the road has a name - the JFX, the LIE, the Capitol Beltway, the Belt Parkway, the Baltimore Beltway, the John Hanson Highway, etc.

95 is just "95".

// or "I-95", if you're a pedantic douchey timewasting farkstick
 
2014-03-28 04:53:26 PM  

shamalamadingdong: Buttknuckle: I have so many cities that I want to visit and LA is straight at the bottom of the list.

/Superficial and fake=no thanks
 You know, I hear that shiat a lot from people who have never been to L.A.  And I've been all around the world, and I've found that the ratio of superficial and fake people stays around the same just about everywhere I go.  Every town in every country has salt of the earth and snakes in the grass.  I do find, however, that the rate of judgmental, ignorant twats who think they know all there is to know about L.A. and its denizens from watching TV and anecdotes from other judgmental twats, jumps when you leave Southern California.


I love it there.  Lots of culture, lots of great places to eat, I find people there to be very polite and friendly actually.
 
2014-03-28 04:54:31 PM  

shamalamadingdong: You know, I hear that shiat a lot from people who have never been to L.A.



there's a high percentage of people in this country who rarely leave their own counties, let alone their states. These are the people I imagine when I hear idiots regurgitate stereotypes about any city, let alone LA.
 
2014-03-28 04:54:47 PM  
... And that is why I stay far clear of SoCal.
 
2014-03-28 04:55:20 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: So here's my thing:

In LA, every damn time they mention a highway they put "the" in front of it. The 405, the 5, etc. Lived in the Bay Area for 20 years and never heard it but go to L.A. and even the damn broadcasters do it.

Knock that shiat off. Or there will be hell to pay when I am King.


So this is the opening salvo in the L.A. vs  S.F. flame war?  The use of the word "the?"

If only there were an Emperor, who could simply banish the word "the" with a stroke of a pen.

/I love LA
//also love SF
///
 
2014-03-28 04:55:29 PM  
I've never been there and will probably never go.  One question I do have -- where did the name Crips come from?
 
2014-03-28 04:56:09 PM  

lordargent: San Diego County: ~ 3 million on ~4,200 square miles
vs
LA County: ~10 million on ~4,060 square miles



just remember that the next time the 805 is backed up from the split to the 54...which will be in about 2 hours.

It could be alot worse.
 
Oak
2014-03-28 04:56:21 PM  

vernonFL: The_Sponge: vernonFL: I love Los Angeles, but then again I stay in a really nice area- Palos Verdes- and I don't drive long distances.


I love L.A. as well.....but only because I went college in Malibu.

Pepperdine? Yeah that is about the most beautiful campus I've ever seen.


Visit UC-Santa Cruz once before you die.
 
2014-03-28 04:56:29 PM  
I think this thread has perfectly encapsulated LA thus far..

It's an overcrowded shiathole with awful traffic, a bunch of foreigners, the crappiest downtown ever for a huge city, the Valley sucks, and is superficial and fake.

Yet, it has Malibu and Palos Verdes and all of the other really nice places in the LA areas.  And gorgeous weather for the vast majority of the year (you know we're in a heatwave when downtown hits 95).

I don't love LA proper and the only time I really visit is for Dodger Stadium.  I used to go more often for concerts and shows, but these days I'm old with young kids so that doesn't happen anymore (but living near a big Metro area is great for that stuff).
 
2014-03-28 04:56:59 PM  
That is nice.... now take into account it is a big honking ass county in area, and it drops to 47th:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_statistics_of_the_United_States #M ost_densely_populated
 
2014-03-28 04:58:02 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: So here's my thing:

In LA, every damn time they mention a highway they put "the" in front of it. The 405, the 5, etc. Lived in the Bay Area for 20 years and never heard it but go to L.A. and even the damn broadcasters do it.

Knock that shiat off. Or there will be hell to pay when I am King.


Of course, both the SoCal variant of "The 5" and the NorCal variant of "5" are different from the entire rest of the country, where The 5 would be referred to as "Interstate 5" or "I-5".
 
2014-03-28 04:58:28 PM  

raerae1980: Hey, we're neighbors.

/no ho


*waves*

Soup4Bonnie: So here's my thing:

In LA, every damn time they mention a highway they put "the" in front of it. The 405, the 5, etc. Lived in the Bay Area for 20 years and never heard it but go to L.A. and even the damn broadcasters do it.

Knock that shiat off. Or there will be hell to pay when I am King.


It's short for "the 405 freeway," "the 5 freeway," the 101 freeway," etc.

It's just a freeway thing. When referring to Pacific Coast Highway, we call it PCH. NO ONE calls it "the PCH."
 
2014-03-28 04:59:42 PM  

drew46n2: there's a high percentage of people in this country who rarely leave their own counties, let alone their states. These are the people I imagine when I hear idiots regurgitate stereotypes about any city, let alone LA.


It's like the "LA was built in a desert" nonsense.  1910-1950, Los Angeles County was the top producing agricultural area in the country, and the water systems we're famous for weren't built until the 60s.  Try doing that in a desert.
 
2014-03-28 05:00:15 PM  
L.A.'s fine, but it ain't home.
 
2014-03-28 05:01:27 PM  
www.icebergtees.com
dambreaker.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-03-28 05:01:35 PM  
Eh, L.A. was a nice place to visit, but I am glad that I don't live there.

Now NYC.....that is a place I have no desire to go.  I just don't like large cities, but at least L.A. has the climate to make me forget that.
 
2014-03-28 05:01:43 PM  
WInter, 2014

LA-

img.fark.net

Rest of the Country:

media.hometeamsonline.com


/haters gon hate
 
2014-03-28 05:01:45 PM  
I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.

SCUBA this morning and will be having amazing Chinese tonight in the SGV
 
2014-03-28 05:02:08 PM  

tricycleracer: L.A.'s fine, but it ain't home.


And no one heard at all, not even the chair.
 
2014-03-28 05:02:51 PM  

vernonFL: I love Los Angeles, but then again I stay in a really nice area- Palos Verdes- and I don't drive long distances.


Yeah, we lived in Brentwood within walking distance of the beach.  It was nice.

/currently in Atlanta
//prefers L.A. to ATL
 
2014-03-28 05:04:11 PM  

obenchainr: Los Angeles County was the top producing agricultural area in the country


www.dvdizzy.com

Do you have any idea what was out there five years ago?

YEAH!

You bet you do, orange groves, as far as the eye could see.
 
2014-03-28 05:04:36 PM  

obenchainr: drew46n2: there's a high percentage of people in this country who rarely leave their own counties, let alone their states. These are the people I imagine when I hear idiots regurgitate stereotypes about any city, let alone LA.

It's like the "LA was built in a desert" nonsense.  1910-1950, Los Angeles County was the top producing agricultural area in the country, and the water systems we're famous for weren't built until the 60s.  Try doing that in a desert.


Your dates are a bit off, the local NPR stations covered alot of this recently covering the anniversary of the LA aqueduct. Alot of interesting info on
William Mulholland and the history of the growth of LA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Mulholland
 
2014-03-28 05:05:24 PM  
I wait until I get on the 405 before I start futsing around with things like my phone, coffee, radio, et al...

...It's the one part of my commute where I am safely stopped long enough to do so.
 
2014-03-28 05:05:27 PM  

Oak: vernonFL: The_Sponge: vernonFL: I love Los Angeles, but then again I stay in a really nice area- Palos Verdes- and I don't drive long distances.


I love L.A. as well.....but only because I went college in Malibu.

Pepperdine? Yeah that is about the most beautiful campus I've ever seen.

Visit UC-Santa Cruz once before you die.


It is awesome; I love hiking in the upper campus reserve. I miss living in the Santa Cruz area; hopefully I can move back up Highway 9 at some point.
 
2014-03-28 05:06:53 PM  

dletter: That is nice.... now take into account it is a big honking ass county in area, and it drops to 47th:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_statistics_of_the_United_States #M ost_densely_populated


Very true, and you need to go a level further and define what you mean be "densely" populated.  I use my own DPA scale (dumbasses per acre) and while LA has a few troublesome areas, it hardly ranks in the worst 100 areas.  I save those for certain Florida counties and Montgomery County, Texas.
 
2014-03-28 05:07:12 PM  
All you suckers in LA still got like 3 more hours of work! take that west coast!!!
 
2014-03-28 05:07:20 PM  
Stuuuuart - whaddrr YOU doing heerrree?
 
2014-03-28 05:08:09 PM  
Living near Glendale, I'm not going to say ALL of the immigrants were Armenian... but yea... they were Armenian.
 
2014-03-28 05:09:22 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: So here's my thing:

In LA, every damn time they mention a highway they put "the" in front of it. The 405, the 5, etc. Lived in the Bay Area for 20 years and never heard it but go to L.A. and even the damn broadcasters do it.

Knock that shiat off. Or there will be hell to pay when I am King.



There's a reason they do that, you know.  Take a look at the freeway signs sometime.  Notice they say things like "San Diego Freeway" in addition to "405 Southbound".  Once upon a time*, everyone in the area referred to freeways by their names (not number) like "the San Diego freeway", complete with the article in the front.  The preceding "the" stuck.

However, now it's more common among younger folk to refer to freeways by number, and not name, but the "the" persisted.

You can always tell how old someone---radio announcers, for example---in L.A. is by whether or not they refer to freeways by number or by name.  The older ones use names instead of numbers.

*if I recall correctly
 
2014-03-28 05:10:20 PM  
That's a lot of Mexicans.
I hate high population areas. I don't think man was meant to live in such density, our brains evolved in tiny tribal settings and the cities are just so impersonal.
 
2014-03-28 05:11:20 PM  
Population of the city of LA is 3.8 Million, in China it would rank 20th, behind some cities that do not even have an airport.
 
2014-03-28 05:12:43 PM  

FizixJunkee: You can always tell how old someone---radio announcers, for example---in L.A. is by whether or not they refer to freeways by number or by name.  The older ones use names instead of numbers.


Right, it's sort of like the 91.  Going west, it's the Artesia Freeway and going east, it's the Riverside Freeway.  I don't know very many people who call it that, but you hear from time to time.
 
2014-03-28 05:12:51 PM  

Headso: All you suckers in LA still got like 3 more hours of work! take that west coast!!!


pfft, while you losers on the east coast where going to work, I had just finished eating lunch!

/France
 
2014-03-28 05:13:16 PM  

drew46n2: there's a high percentage of people in this country who rarely leave their own counties, let alone their states.


Most of them consider civilization to end at Harlem.
 
2014-03-28 05:14:42 PM  

Headso: All you suckers in LA still got like 3 more hours of work! take that west coast!!!


The west coast rocks if you are a sports fan though.  East coast baseball games usually start 4pm and then the west coast games start at 7pm.  Football games on Sunday start at 10am, 1pm, and 5pm.
 
2014-03-28 05:15:56 PM  

FizixJunkee: Yeah, we lived in Brentwood within walking distance of the beach. It was nice.

/currently in Atlanta
//prefers L.A. to ATL


What, floating down the 'hooch on an inner tube as lumps of fecal matter floats by doesn't compare to the beach?

Having lived on both places, I don't think either place is particularly nice overall but the good parts of LA (few there are) are light years ahead of the good parts of Atlanta (yes, suburbanites, I'm including entire metros... sorry, Johns Creek is only impressive to people who have never been anywhere else).

/Seriously, suburbanites in Atlanta are some of the most deluded people on the planet
//Gulf of Mexico beaches > California beaches
 
2014-03-28 05:17:27 PM  
ladodger34:
Right, it's sort of like the 91.  Going west, it's the Artesia Freeway and going east, it's the Riverside Freeway.  I don't know very many people who call it that, but you hear from time to time.


It's annoying as shiat, isn't it?   The same farking road, but it has two different names depending on which direction you're facing.  Calling the freeways by number (e.g., the 405) is less confusing.
 
2014-03-28 05:17:52 PM  
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
#1 I hear people complain about the freeways.
#2 The what?
#1 Never mind, let's get a gelato.
#2 Okay!
 
2014-03-28 05:19:39 PM  

drew46n2: WInter, 2014

LA-

[img.fark.net image 729x486]

Rest of the Country:

[media.hometeamsonline.com image 776x582]


/haters gon hate


assets.meanwhilein.org
 
2014-03-28 05:20:26 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: I don't think man was meant to live in such density, our brains evolved in tiny tribal settings and the cities are just so impersonal.


Oh, screw that noise.  I'm a city mouse.  I grew up rural and fark was it boring.  Darling, I love you, but give me Park Avenue.
 
2014-03-28 05:21:30 PM  

FizixJunkee: ladodger34:
Right, it's sort of like the 91.  Going west, it's the Artesia Freeway and going east, it's the Riverside Freeway.  I don't know very many people who call it that, but you hear from time to time.


It's annoying as shiat, isn't it?   The same farking road, but it has two different names depending on which direction you're facing.  Calling the freeways by number (e.g., the 405) is less confusing.


I was really confused about that when I first moved here. Now I think its just a cute example of L.A. slang.
 
2014-03-28 05:22:13 PM  
The only thing I like about California is you motherfarkers know how to drive.  I loved that part.  The rest can so suck on sweaty camel balls
 
2014-03-28 05:22:26 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: So here's my thing:

In LA, every damn time they mention a highway they put "the" in front of it. The 405, the 5, etc. Lived in the Bay Area for 20 years and never heard it but go to L.A. and even the damn broadcasters do it.

Knock that shiat off. Or there will be hell to pay when I am King.


Our traffic is such that we can't help but  anthropomorphizethe freeways.  The 405 is an angry god whose wraith can be felt from 6am to 8pm, daily.  The 5 is a reliable friend who gets you where you're going, but occasionally you fight.

That, and we don't have weather, so we tend to talk about traffic jams like they are hurricanes that roll in unexpectedly.
 
2014-03-28 05:22:45 PM  
Got stuck in traffic on my way home on the PCH. Watched a bunch of hot girls practicing volleyball in bikinis. Yeah, I'll stick with my commute.
 
2014-03-28 05:23:15 PM  

drew46n2: WInter, 2014

LA-

[img.fark.net image 729x486]

Rest of the Country:

[media.hometeamsonline.com image 776x582]


/haters gon hate


Cali-
i.imgur.com

Rest of the Country:
i.imgur.com

/haters gon hate.
 
2014-03-28 05:23:42 PM  

EngineerAU: FizixJunkee: Yeah, we lived in Brentwood within walking distance of the beach. It was nice.

/currently in Atlanta
//prefers L.A. to ATL

What, floating down the 'hooch on an inner tube as lumps of fecal matter floats by doesn't compare to the beach?

Having lived on both places, I don't think either place is particularly nice overall but the good parts of LA (few there are) are light years ahead of the good parts of Atlanta (yes, suburbanites, I'm including entire metros... sorry, Johns Creek is only impressive to people who have never been anywhere else).

/Seriously, suburbanites in Atlanta are some of the most deluded people on the planet
//Gulf of Mexico beaches > California beaches



Challenge accepted:


www.luxuryrealestate.com
Emerald Bay in SoCal
 
2014-03-28 05:23:49 PM  
Los Angeles.  The City of the Angels.  10 million people live there.  Most of those love it.  Here's one reason to hate it.
 
2014-03-28 05:24:14 PM  

Oak: vernonFL: The_Sponge: vernonFL: I love Los Angeles, but then again I stay in a really nice area- Palos Verdes- and I don't drive long distances.


I love L.A. as well.....but only because I went college in Malibu.

Pepperdine? Yeah that is about the most beautiful campus I've ever seen.

Visit UC-Santa Cruz once before you die.


Daughter graduated from UCSC in 2004. Beautiful campus.

We moved to LA (SF Valley) from Chicago in 1989. My heart has never left Chicago and I hate living in this sea of self-absorbed assholes.
 
2014-03-28 05:24:33 PM  
When I lived in San Diego I had to do a lot of jobs up in LA. The general rule was we work from 10-2. anytime before or after that meant you were fighting traffic there and back. Besides that I really didn't mind LA. Would never live there but nice place to visit. And when you get to any large city you will find all sorts of people some are nice and some aren't. A lot of snobs and posers. People who think they are special because they live there. A lot of it was for show and you quickly learned how to spot the fakes. But also lots of really nice and interesting people as well. It is what it is and what you take from it.

I just grew tired of it all. And moving back to small town flyover country is like a vacation. Yeah the weather is nicer there but you pay for it.
 
2014-03-28 05:25:49 PM  

Banacek: Watched a bunch of hot girls practicing volleyball in bikinis.


They were wearing bikinis and they were still hot?  Wow, it must have been really warm that day.
 
2014-03-28 05:26:18 PM  

ReverendJynxed: drew46n2: WInter, 2014

LA-

[img.fark.net image 729x486]

Rest of the Country:

[media.hometeamsonline.com image 776x582]


/haters gon hate

Cali-


Rest of the Country:


/haters gon hate.


Sorry but our beaches don't look like that. Not the ones I frequent, anyway. Gulf coast Florida, now, they have some UGLY beaches.
 
2014-03-28 05:27:34 PM  
I grew up in So. Cal and I just can't bring myself to miss it.  I lived in Berdoo, commuted to L.A. or O.C. for work as a finish carpenter.   We'd leave before the sun came up and get home after it had set.  Only thing I used to miss was the money I'd make back then.

/csb

As an aside, I wonder how many people have left that area for somewhere else due to the rising population.
 
2014-03-28 05:27:42 PM  

EdNortonsTwin: Challenge accepted:


those look like 1500 sqft homes, probably start at 2MM bucks...
 
2014-03-28 05:27:56 PM  

EdNortonsTwin: EngineerAU: FizixJunkee: Yeah, we lived in Brentwood within walking distance of the beach. It was nice.

/currently in Atlanta
//prefers L.A. to ATL

What, floating down the 'hooch on an inner tube as lumps of fecal matter floats by doesn't compare to the beach?

Having lived on both places, I don't think either place is particularly nice overall but the good parts of LA (few there are) are light years ahead of the good parts of Atlanta (yes, suburbanites, I'm including entire metros... sorry, Johns Creek is only impressive to people who have never been anywhere else).

/Seriously, suburbanites in Atlanta are some of the most deluded people on the planet
//Gulf of Mexico beaches > California beaches


Challenge accepted:


[www.luxuryrealestate.com image 850x566]
Emerald Bay in SoCal


And that water is a balmy 72 degrees in the summer.  I'll stick with my 85 degree Gulf.
 
2014-03-28 05:29:36 PM  
Just plant some farking orange groves. Do it at night so no one notices. Eventually, everything will be oranges again.

/and start planting some garlic in Gilroy again. it will drive out the meth. Largest meth bust in the US at that time. Who knows now...
 
2014-03-28 05:29:47 PM  

Lorelle: It's just a freeway thing. When referring to Pacific Coast Highway, we call it PCH. NO ONE calls it "the PCH."


Banacek: Got stuck in traffic on my way home on the PCH. Watched a bunch of hot girls practicing volleyball in bikinis. Yeah, I'll stick with my commute.


ISWYDT
 
2014-03-28 05:30:00 PM  

raerae1980: ReverendJynxed: drew46n2: WInter, 2014

LA-

[img.fark.net image 729x486]

Rest of the Country:

[media.hometeamsonline.com image 776x582]


/haters gon hate

Cali-


Rest of the Country:


/haters gon hate.

Sorry but our beaches don't look like that. Not the ones I frequent, anyway. Gulf coast Florida, now, they have some UGLY beaches.


That's Folsom. We have water, you don't. Enjoy your beautiful winters.
 
2014-03-28 05:30:01 PM  

raerae1980: ReverendJynxed: drew46n2: WInter, 2014

LA-

[img.fark.net image 729x486]

Rest of the Country:

[media.hometeamsonline.com image 776x582]


/haters gon hate

Cali-


Rest of the Country:


/haters gon hate.

Sorry but our beaches don't look like that. Not the ones I frequent, anyway. Gulf coast Florida, now, they have some UGLY beaches.


That's not a beach
 
2014-03-28 05:32:08 PM  

bongon247: I lived in Berdoo


can't imagine why you don't miss it

ReverendJynxed: drew46n2: WInter, 2014

LA-

[img.fark.net image 729x486]

Rest of the Country:

[media.hometeamsonline.com image 776x582]


/haters gon hate

Cali-
[i.imgur.com image 534x401]

Rest of the Country:
[i.imgur.com image 400x400]

/haters gon hate.



Laguna beach

img.fark.net

Gulf Coast:

freeassociationdesign.files.wordpress.com

Let's be honest here.
 
2014-03-28 05:33:52 PM  

EdNortonsTwin: EngineerAU: FizixJunkee: Yeah, we lived in Brentwood within walking distance of the beach. It was nice.

/currently in Atlanta
//prefers L.A. to ATL

What, floating down the 'hooch on an inner tube as lumps of fecal matter floats by doesn't compare to the beach?

Having lived on both places, I don't think either place is particularly nice overall but the good parts of LA (few there are) are light years ahead of the good parts of Atlanta (yes, suburbanites, I'm including entire metros... sorry, Johns Creek is only impressive to people who have never been anywhere else).

/Seriously, suburbanites in Atlanta are some of the most deluded people on the planet
//Gulf of Mexico beaches > California beaches


Challenge accepted:


[www.luxuryrealestate.com image 850x566]
Emerald Bay in SoCal


Yes, yes...very pretty.

But cold as balls. You need a suit if you're going to be in more than few minutes.

Ocracoke south, the water on the east coast is 80+ in the summer. It's like swimming in a relaxing bath. Your beaches are prettier, but not nearly as good for actually using the water.

Gulf beaches are still nasty though.
 
2014-03-28 05:34:04 PM  

drew46n2: bongon247: I lived in Berdoo

can't imagine why you don't miss it

ReverendJynxed: drew46n2: WInter, 2014

LA-

[img.fark.net image 729x486]

Rest of the Country:

[media.hometeamsonline.com image 776x582]


/haters gon hate

Cali-
[i.imgur.com image 534x401]

Rest of the Country:
[i.imgur.com image 400x400]

/haters gon hate.


Laguna beach

[img.fark.net image 850x562]

Gulf Coast:

[freeassociationdesign.files.wordpress.com image 750x499]

Let's be honest here.


Yes, lets. Where did I ever bring up the gulf coast? Shall I pull up an image of Hawaii and call it relevant?

/hater
 
2014-03-28 05:34:13 PM  

whistleridge: On its own, LA would be the 87th most populous nation, edging out Bolivia, Hungary, Sweden, and just behind Benin. But at just 4,752 sq miles, it would be the 175th largest nation, down there with Brunei, Trinidad and Tobago, and French Polynesia. So basically, it's a country the size of Sweden, crammed into an area 1/2030th the size.

No wonder they have shiatty traffic.


One reason we have shiatty traffic is because our current governor, back in the 70s, decided there were enough freeways and shut down construction.

Mass transit is a giant boondoggle, they can't even agree on how to fund & build high speed rail. Subways? Same thing. Plenty of NIMBYs out here.
 
2014-03-28 05:35:02 PM  

drew46n2: bongon247: I lived in Berdoo

can't imagine why you don't miss it

ReverendJynxed: drew46n2: WInter, 2014

LA-

[img.fark.net image 729x486]

Rest of the Country:

[media.hometeamsonline.com image 776x582]


/haters gon hate

Cali-
[i.imgur.com image 534x401]

Rest of the Country:
[i.imgur.com image 400x400]

/haters gon hate.


Laguna beach

[img.fark.net image 850x562]

Gulf Coast:

[freeassociationdesign.files.wordpress.com image 750x499]

Let's be honest here.


Dude, I could post the Port of Long Beach next to St. Pete Beach too.
 
2014-03-28 05:36:28 PM  

FizixJunkee: Lorelle: It's just a freeway thing. When referring to Pacific Coast Highway, we call it PCH. NO ONE calls it "the PCH."

Banacek: Got stuck in traffic on my way home on the PCH. Watched a bunch of hot girls practicing volleyball in bikinis. Yeah, I'll stick with my commute.

ISWYDT


He/she probably isn't a native. I've lived in SoCal for over 50 years, and I've never heard a native call it "the PCH."

Heading for Malibu from downtown? Take the 10 west to PCH and turn right.
 
2014-03-28 05:36:34 PM  
TheShavingofOccam123:
/and start planting some garlic in Gilroy again. it will drive out the meth. Largest meth bust in the US at that time. Who knows now...

Damn those vampire and their meth labs
 
2014-03-28 05:36:38 PM  

FizixJunkee: You can always tell how old someone---radio announcers, for example---in L.A. is by whether or not they refer to freeways by number or by name. The older ones use names instead of numbers.


Chicago is the same way.  And yeah, most of the traffic reporters use the names and not the numbers.

The Dan Ryan, The Ike, etc.
 
2014-03-28 05:37:10 PM  

tricycleracer: Dude, I could post the Port of Long Beach next to St. Pete Beach too



you say that like posting pictures of arbitrary geographic locations is not indicative of the entire region. Come on, now, all of California is a waterless shiathole while the rest of the country is a pure mountain prairie.
 
2014-03-28 05:37:57 PM  

Arkanaut: There's only 1.6 million people in New York County, therefore LA > NY.


LA county 4200 sq miles
NY county less than 40 sq miles
 
2014-03-28 05:38:19 PM  

Lorelle: FizixJunkee: Lorelle: It's just a freeway thing. When referring to Pacific Coast Highway, we call it PCH. NO ONE calls it "the PCH."

Banacek: Got stuck in traffic on my way home on the PCH. Watched a bunch of hot girls practicing volleyball in bikinis. Yeah, I'll stick with my commute.

ISWYDT

He/she probably isn't a native. I've lived in SoCal for over 50 years, and I've never heard a native call it "the PCH."

Heading for Malibu from downtown? Take the 10 west to PCH and turn right.


It's the same assholes that insist on calling it THE Ukraine.
 
2014-03-28 05:39:44 PM  

drew46n2: tricycleracer: Dude, I could post the Port of Long Beach next to St. Pete Beach too


you say that like posting pictures of arbitrary geographic locations is not indicative of the entire region. Come on, now, all of California is a waterless shiathole while the rest of the country is a pure mountain prairie.


Without taking everyone else's water, yes, it (along with Arizona) kind of is.
 
2014-03-28 05:43:48 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Lorelle: FizixJunkee: Lorelle: It's just a freeway thing. When referring to Pacific Coast Highway, we call it PCH. NO ONE calls it "the PCH."

Banacek: Got stuck in traffic on my way home on the PCH. Watched a bunch of hot girls practicing volleyball in bikinis. Yeah, I'll stick with my commute.

ISWYDT

He/she probably isn't a native. I've lived in SoCal for over 50 years, and I've never heard a native call it "the PCH."

Heading for Malibu from downtown? Take the 10 west to PCH and turn right.

It's the same assholes that insist on calling it THE Ukraine.


Yet it is THE United States. Is that some weird grammar rule run amok?
 
2014-03-28 05:44:56 PM  

Banacek: Got stuck in traffic on my way home on the PCH. Watched a bunch of hot girls practicing volleyball in bikinis. Yeah, I'll stick with my commute.


Hmmm.
 
2014-03-28 05:45:35 PM  
mmmm
 living without seasons in a smoggy, crime ridden hole of fake humanity

Moar fires! Moar earthyquakes! More gunfire!

can I please return to the drought state?
 
2014-03-28 05:46:08 PM  

H31N0US: Arkanaut: There's only 1.6 million people in New York County, therefore LA > NY.

LA county 4200 sq miles
NY county less than 40 sq miles


I was just making a crack because the first time I visited LA, a tour guide made the "population 10 million" claim without clarifying that he was referring to the county, which is a much bigger place than the city proper.  But 4200 sq miles -- holy shiat that's a big area.
 
2014-03-28 05:46:26 PM  

raerae1980: Lorelle: Beerguy: vernonFL: I love Los Angeles, but then again I stay in a really nice area- Palos Verdes- and I don't drive long distances.

I don't blame you, you live in paradise....not in the valley.

I LIKE living in the Valley. :P

/is looking at the 405 right now
//it isn't crowded
///it will be in about an hour

Hey, we're neighbors.

/no ho


Burbank in the house!   Because we're Borebunkians and we never leave the house. (Seriously, there are PEOPLE out there.  And daylight.  And we can never find parking.  We mostly stay in and watch Netflix.)

After the winter my friends went though back home, I'm starting to be okay with living in L.A.  I'm starting a night program at UCLA next week; looking forward to adding a bit more local-but-not-too-local knowledge to my mental map of the city.
 
2014-03-28 05:46:42 PM  
CA is absolutely beautiful in many places but the cost of living is absofarkinglutely insane. No thanks!
 
2014-03-28 05:50:43 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: So here's my thing:

In LA, every damn time they mention a highway they put "the" in front of it. The 405, the 5, etc. Lived in the Bay Area for 20 years and never heard it but go to L.A. and even the damn broadcasters do it.

Knock that shiat off. Or there will be hell to pay when I am King.


We'll consider this when you agree to let us call your city Frisco.
 
2014-03-28 05:51:09 PM  
I am too lazy to do it but does anyone want to compare to Hong Kong?
 
2014-03-28 05:51:53 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: Banacek: Watched a bunch of hot girls practicing volleyball in bikinis.

They were wearing bikinis and they were still hot?  Wow, it must have been really warm that day.


It's warm all the time out here :)

Lorelle: FizixJunkee: Lorelle: It's just a freeway thing. When referring to Pacific Coast Highway, we call it PCH. NO ONE calls it "the PCH."

Banacek: Got stuck in traffic on my way home on the PCH. Watched a bunch of hot girls practicing volleyball in bikinis. Yeah, I'll stick with my commute.

ISWYDT

He/she probably isn't a native. I've lived in SoCal for over 50 years, and I've never heard a native call it "the PCH."

Heading for Malibu from downtown? Take the 10 west to PCH and turn right.


Not a native. I really don't get the "the" rules when it comes to the highways. I also don't care about getting it right. It's not a big deal like some would have you believe.
 
2014-03-28 05:53:13 PM  

Jument: CA is absolutely beautiful in many places but the cost of living is absofarkinglutely insane. No thanks!


My brother lived in Arizona and was an amazing radar engineer (SR-71 Blackbird amazing). For years he would get these astounding multi-year contract offers from companies in California. Finally he decided to go and have a look around. I'm sure it was just an accident that the offers he received were fantastic for Arizona living and starvation wages for California living. And of course locking him into those wages for years was entirely coincidental.

/head hunting is one thing but ass hunting...
 
2014-03-28 05:54:36 PM  

natas6.0: mmmm
 living without seasons in a smoggy, crime ridden hole of fake humanity

Moar fires! Moar earthyquakes! More gunfire!

can I please return to the drought state?


Maybe because I live in the valley and work at the beach, but I've yet to experience bad smog here. Nor have I been shot at. Ill give you the fires and earthquakes, they suck
 
2014-03-28 05:56:50 PM  

Badmoodman: ReverendJynxed: Lorelle: FizixJunkee: Lorelle: It's just a freeway thing. When referring to Pacific Coast Highway, we call it PCH. NO ONE calls it "the PCH."

Banacek: Got stuck in traffic on my way home on the PCH. Watched a bunch of hot girls practicing volleyball in bikinis. Yeah, I'll stick with my commute.

ISWYDT

He/she probably isn't a native. I've lived in SoCal for over 50 years, and I've never heard a native call it "the PCH."

Heading for Malibu from downtown? Take the 10 west to PCH and turn right.

It's the same assholes that insist on calling it THE Ukraine.

Yet it is THE United States. Is that some weird grammar rule run amok?


States. Plural. Plural names. It isn't the United State. We don't call it the Arizona, the Washington, the Massachusetts.
 
2014-03-28 05:56:59 PM  

Badmoodman: ReverendJynxed: It's the same assholes that insist on calling it THE Ukraine.

Yet it is THE United States. Is that some weird grammar rule run amok?


"The Ukraine" is, I believe, shorthand for "the Ukraine territory" (which was part of the USSR). As Ukraine is now its own country, it would be sort of silly to refer to it as a "territory" - much the same way Americans no longer refer to "the Ohio territory", we simply refer to "Ohio", in recognition of its statehood (ascension to "proper noun" status).

Calling it "the United States" is also shorthand for "the United States of America", because that's how grammar works - every word in the title is either an adjective, an article/preposition, or "America", like saying "the Duke of Earl".

// hth
 
2014-03-28 05:57:13 PM  

raerae1980: natas6.0: mmmm
 living without seasons in a smoggy, crime ridden hole of fake humanity

Moar fires! Moar earthyquakes! More gunfire!

can I please return to the drought state?

Maybe because I live in the valley and work at the beach, but I've yet to experience bad smog here. Nor have I been shot at. Ill give you the fires and earthquakes, they suck


You take Topanga down? If so we probably both get stuck behind the same Topanga hippie going 25 MPH for the entire way :)
 
2014-03-28 05:57:27 PM  

K.B.O. Winston: Soup4Bonnie: So here's my thing:

In LA, every damn time they mention a highway they put "the" in front of it. The 405, the 5, etc. Lived in the Bay Area for 20 years and never heard it but go to L.A. and even the damn broadcasters do it.

Knock that shiat off. Or there will be hell to pay when I am King.

We'll consider this when you agree to let us call your city Frisco.


This is how the California civil war will begin. It will end over margaritas.
 
2014-03-28 05:59:33 PM  
Well, I like it more than Cheyenne
 
2014-03-28 06:00:05 PM  
Kind of like New Delhi but with nicer weather and less smell of death.
 
2014-03-28 06:00:12 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Badmoodman: ReverendJynxed: Lorelle: FizixJunkee: Lorelle: It's just a freeway thing. When referring to Pacific Coast Highway, we call it PCH. NO ONE calls it "the PCH."

Banacek: Got stuck in traffic on my way home on the PCH. Watched a bunch of hot girls practicing volleyball in bikinis. Yeah, I'll stick with my commute.

ISWYDT

He/she probably isn't a native. I've lived in SoCal for over 50 years, and I've never heard a native call it "the PCH."

Heading for Malibu from downtown? Take the 10 west to PCH and turn right.

It's the same assholes that insist on calling it THE Ukraine.

Yet it is THE United States. Is that some weird grammar rule run amok?

States. Plural. Plural names. It isn't the United State. We don't call it the Arizona, the Washington, the Massachusetts.


I should add however that you would be correct in also calling United State, THE United State because it is also technically a plural in geo-political terms, like the United Kingdom.
 
2014-03-28 06:00:42 PM  
Whatever you do, don't go North of LA, to Ventura.  Horrible town, you would not want to live here.
 
2014-03-28 06:01:41 PM  
Also holy farking christ, why did I look at the comments on TFA? Nearly every one of them is about "illegals"
 
2014-03-28 06:02:53 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: So here's my thing:

In LA, every damn time they mention a highway they put "the" in front of it. The 405, the 5, etc. Lived in the Bay Area for 20 years and never heard it but go to L.A. and even the damn broadcasters do it.

Knock that shiat off. Or there will be hell to pay when I am King.


Your bay area newscasters say "The Ukraine" instead of "Ukraine," so piss off.
 
2014-03-28 06:04:08 PM  

Banacek: raerae1980: natas6.0: mmmm
 living without seasons in a smoggy, crime ridden hole of fake humanity

Moar fires! Moar earthyquakes! More gunfire!

can I please return to the drought state?

Maybe because I live in the valley and work at the beach, but I've yet to experience bad smog here. Nor have I been shot at. Ill give you the fires and earthquakes, they suck

You take Topanga down? If so we probably both get stuck behind the same Topanga hippie going 25 MPH for the entire way :)


Yep. Speed limit is 40, pisses me off to no end. "Pull over and let me get around you!!!!". Otherwise, its a beautiful drive, especially those cliffs near the S curves. B-)
 
2014-03-28 06:05:18 PM  

Arkanaut: H31N0US: Arkanaut: There's only 1.6 million people in New York County, therefore LA > NY.

LA county 4200 sq miles
NY county less than 40 sq miles

I was just making a crack because the first time I visited LA, a tour guide made the "population 10 million" claim without clarifying that he was referring to the county, which is a much bigger place than the city proper.  But 4200 sq miles -- holy shiat that's a big area.


By my math, if LA was as densely populated as New York, they'd have about 40 bajillion people.
 
2014-03-28 06:05:19 PM  

Apatheist: Your bay area newscasters say "The Ukraine" instead of "Ukraine," so piss off.


You've probably never been to a coronation and you just blew your chance at attending mine.  Good move.
 
2014-03-28 06:05:49 PM  
FTFA: Part of what prodded Los Angeles County past the 10-million mark was an influx of people from abroad.

What, did the Duggars move to LA?
 
Oak
2014-03-28 06:06:27 PM  
Living in L.A.'s aight.  It's nothing like what you see on TV or in the movies, really: it's big-time big-city living with really nice weather  all the time (I refer to it as "relentlessly pleasant").  Drivers are much more aggressive than they are in my hometown, Chicago: back home I could do things like remove one hand from the steering wheel every so often.  People aren't that different: steer clear of anyone even tangentially or remotely connected with the entertainment industry in any way (it poisons souls at a distance) and you're fine.
 
2014-03-28 06:09:09 PM  

Apatheist: Soup4Bonnie: So here's my thing:

In LA, every damn time they mention a highway they put "the" in front of it. The 405, the 5, etc. Lived in the Bay Area for 20 years and never heard it but go to L.A. and even the damn broadcasters do it.

Knock that shiat off. Or there will be hell to pay when I am King.

Your bay area newscasters say "The Ukraine" instead of "Ukraine," so piss off.


Does this person somehow claim ownership? Shouldn't it be The Bay Area newscasters?
 
2014-03-28 06:10:29 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Is that with or without counting the undocumented illegals?


Are there any documented ones?

Lorelle: I LIKE living in the Valley. :P


Temperatures don't get down into the double digits, ever!

drew46n2: Soup4Bonnie: The 405, the 5, etc.

just go with it


Exactly. Where's the problem?

Beerguy: Every once in a while I miss living in L.A., and then I remember the traffic, graffiti, constant sound of sirens blaring and I find myself relieved to be out of that crazy place.


Same here. Had a great time when I lived there (twice, 7 years in the South Bay, almost 10 in South OC), but the reasons you mentioned and just the amount of people made it unbearable.

/now on 20 wooded acres in the Pacific Northwest
//life is good
 
2014-03-28 06:11:48 PM  

ReverendJynxed: raerae1980: ReverendJynxed: drew46n2: WInter, 2014

LA-

[img.fark.net image 729x486]

Rest of the Country:

[media.hometeamsonline.com image 776x582]


/haters gon hate

Cali-


Rest of the Country:


/haters gon hate.

Sorry but our beaches don't look like that. Not the ones I frequent, anyway. Gulf coast Florida, now, they have some UGLY beaches.

That's Folsom. We have water, you don't. Enjoy your beautiful winters.


Showing a picture of a NorCal reservoir to someone from SoCal isn't going to make much of an impact, you should realize. Besides, all the SoCal reservoirs are full so they probably don't know what you're talking about anyway (somehow, in spite of the drought declaration and efforts in Northern California to conserve water such as proposed 20% minimum reductions for residential units, the aqueduct and receiving reservoirs down south are just as full as if it were a normal year).
 
2014-03-28 06:14:08 PM  

SurelyShirley: ReverendJynxed: Is that with or without counting the undocumented illegals?

Are there any documented ones?


Technically, yes there are. Jails are full of them actually. The ones waiting out their sentence before deportation.
 
2014-03-28 06:18:49 PM  

demonbug: ReverendJynxed: raerae1980: ReverendJynxed: drew46n2: WInter, 2014

LA-

[img.fark.net image 729x486]

Rest of the Country:

[media.hometeamsonline.com image 776x582]


/haters gon hate

Cali-


Rest of the Country:


/haters gon hate.

Sorry but our beaches don't look like that. Not the ones I frequent, anyway. Gulf coast Florida, now, they have some UGLY beaches.

That's Folsom. We have water, you don't. Enjoy your beautiful winters.

Showing a picture of a NorCal reservoir to someone from SoCal isn't going to make much of an impact, you should realize. Besides, all the SoCal reservoirs are full so they probably don't know what you're talking about anyway (somehow, in spite of the drought declaration and efforts in Northern California to conserve water such as proposed 20% minimum reductions for residential units, the aqueduct and receiving reservoirs down south are just as full as if it were a normal year).


Oh I know. But this way I get to say, "I told you so." Nothing like smug self-righteousness to get you through your day.
 
2014-03-28 06:19:23 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: So here's my thing:

In LA, every damn time they mention a highway they put "the" in front of it. The 405, the 5, etc. Lived in the Bay Area for 20 years and never heard it but go to L.A. and even the damn broadcasters do it.

Knock that shiat off. Or there will be hell to pay when I am King.


As a native Southern Californian now living in San Francisco for 20 years I can explain the reason for the regional usage:

In SoCal people know and refer to the freeways by their given name: The San Diego Fwy (405), The Santa Ana Fwy (5), The Long Beach Fwy (710), The Garden Grove Fwy (22), The San Bernadino Fwy (605), etc.

In NorCal, the freeways have names but few people know the names, just the route numbers: 101, 280, 880, 85, 680, 580, etc.

So in SoCal the definite article is in reference to the freeway name "Take the San Diego Fwy south to the Long Beach Fwy south." which becomes "Take the 405 south to the 710 south."

In NorCal it's "Take [route] 280 south to [route] 85 south." which becomes "Take 280 south to 85 south."

Depending where I am, I switch modes. It's funny, you can use this to tell where someone is from in CA with no other accent marker.
 
2014-03-28 06:23:44 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: The only thing I like about California is you motherfarkers know how to drive.


Well, we ought to - it's about all we f**king do.
 
2014-03-28 06:25:42 PM  
I'm from the Bay but now that Frisco has become an elitist yuppie hellhole, I'd say LA is better. Better weather and more attractive women and an actual middle and working class.

/San Jose
 
2014-03-28 06:30:31 PM  

raerae1980: Banacek: raerae1980: natas6.0: mmmm
 living without seasons in a smoggy, crime ridden hole of fake humanity

Moar fires! Moar earthyquakes! More gunfire!

can I please return to the drought state?

Maybe because I live in the valley and work at the beach, but I've yet to experience bad smog here. Nor have I been shot at. Ill give you the fires and earthquakes, they suck

You take Topanga down? If so we probably both get stuck behind the same Topanga hippie going 25 MPH for the entire way :)

Yep. Speed limit is 40, pisses me off to no end. "Pull over and let me get around you!!!!". Otherwise, its a beautiful drive, especially those cliffs near the S curves. B-)


Agreed. I love my commute. If I had the means I would get myself a convertible to properly enjoy the drive.
 
2014-03-28 06:31:47 PM  

Lorelle: raerae1980: Hey, we're neighbors.

/no ho

*waves*

Soup4Bonnie: So here's my thing:

In LA, every damn time they mention a highway they put "the" in front of it. The 405, the 5, etc. Lived in the Bay Area for 20 years and never heard it but go to L.A. and even the damn broadcasters do it.

Knock that shiat off. Or there will be hell to pay when I am King.

It's short for "the 405 freeway," "the 5 freeway," the 101 freeway," etc.

It's just a freeway thing. When referring to Pacific Coast Highway, we call it PCH. NO ONE calls it "the PCH."


The odd thing about California is that it is the only state where nobody notices the difference between state and Federal highways/freeways.  Hence the whole "the" or "" thing with SoCal or NorCal.  That is, The 91 would be referred to "State Route 91" or some such anywhere except in California, and The 5 would be referred to "I-5" or "Interstate 5".

The reason, I think, is that California is smart enough to not duplicate state highway numbers with ones that have Federal highways/freeways, while other states aren't as smart (so State Route 91 and I-91 could potentially be different roads).
 
2014-03-28 06:38:43 PM  

Arkanaut: H31N0US: Arkanaut: There's only 1.6 million people in New York County, therefore LA > NY.

LA county 4200 sq miles
NY county less than 40 sq miles

I was just making a crack because the first time I visited LA, a tour guide made the "population 10 million" claim without clarifying that he was referring to the county, which is a much bigger place than the city proper.  But 4200 sq miles -- holy shiat that's a big area.


Meh, that's nothing.  San Bernardino County is 20,105 square miles.
 
2014-03-28 06:38:44 PM  

dletter: That is nice.... now take into account it is a big honking ass county in area, and it drops to 47th:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_statistics_of_the_United_States #M ost_densely_populated


That's deceptive, though.  More than half the area of LA County is mountain area and high dessert, which are sparesely populated, and have only maybe half a million people.  The other 9.5 million people live in about 40% of the land area.
 
2014-03-28 06:45:58 PM  

Geotpf: The reason, I think, is that California is smart enough to not duplicate state highway numbers with ones that have Federal highways/freeways, while other states aren't as smart (so State Route 91 and I-91 could potentially be different roads).


The other reason is that the "interstate" vs "state" is kind of silly.  Like, the 405 is an interstate - except that it starts and ends in LA Metro (it's a bypass for the 5, which is why, but it still doesn't really make sense).  Whereas the 101 goes all the way up to the northern border of Oregon but somehow isn't an interstate highway.  Or, like, the 210, which is an interstate for part but only a local for part.  The 110 and the 710 start a few miles apart in the Pasadena/South Pas area and both head to Long Beach, but they're also both Interstates - or, at least, the 110 is for part of it; the other part (the oldest part) is just a local.
 
2014-03-28 06:46:22 PM  

Geotpf: Lorelle: raerae1980: Hey, we're neighbors.

/no ho

*waves*

Soup4Bonnie: So here's my thing:

In LA, every damn time they mention a highway they put "the" in front of it. The 405, the 5, etc. Lived in the Bay Area for 20 years and never heard it but go to L.A. and even the damn broadcasters do it.

Knock that shiat off. Or there will be hell to pay when I am King.

It's short for "the 405 freeway," "the 5 freeway," the 101 freeway," etc.

It's just a freeway thing. When referring to Pacific Coast Highway, we call it PCH. NO ONE calls it "the PCH."

The odd thing about California is that it is the only state where nobody notices the difference between state and Federal highways/freeways.  Hence the whole "the" or "" thing with SoCal or NorCal.  That is, The 91 would be referred to "State Route 91" or some such anywhere except in California, and The 5 would be referred to "I-5" or "Interstate 5".

The reason, I think, is that California is smart enough to not duplicate state highway numbers with ones that have Federal highways/freeways, while other states aren't as smart (so State Route 91 and I-91 could potentially be different roads).


But we do have duplicate routes. However, the all seem to be parts of the Interstate (e.g. I-110 and SR-110; Harbor and Pasadena Freeways, or I-210 and SR-210), so I guess still no confusion (most people probably don't even register that there was a change from the Interstate to a State Route, besides the logo changing, if they even see that).

Confusion still happens with things like "San Diego Freeway", because that refers to the 405 and the 5 (south of the 405/5 split). Well, I guess you'll still get to San Diego in any case, I suppose. Might be confusing if you're told to take the Santa Ana Freeway south to the San Diego Freeway south, since you don't change freeways.

(BTW lohphat, it's the 10 that's the San Bernadino Freeway. The 605 is the San Gabriel River Freeway, technically. But I don't even think older people call it that).
 
2014-03-28 06:53:48 PM  
"There are eight ten million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them."

Yeah, I know it was NYC.
 
2014-03-28 06:55:11 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Apatheist: Soup4Bonnie: So here's my thing:

In LA, every damn time they mention a highway they put "the" in front of it. The 405, the 5, etc. Lived in the Bay Area for 20 years and never heard it but go to L.A. and even the damn broadcasters do it.

Knock that shiat off. Or there will be hell to pay when I am King.

Your bay area newscasters say "The Ukraine" instead of "Ukraine," so piss off.

Does this person somehow claim ownership? Shouldn't it be The Bay Area newscasters?


My taxes fund the Interstate Highway System, but I don't take "my the 280" to work
 
2014-03-28 07:05:48 PM  

obenchainr: Geotpf: The reason, I think, is that California is smart enough to not duplicate state highway numbers with ones that have Federal highways/freeways, while other states aren't as smart (so State Route 91 and I-91 could potentially be different roads).

The other reason is that the "interstate" vs "state" is kind of silly.  Like, the 405 is an interstate - except that it starts and ends in LA Metro (it's a bypass for the 5, which is why, but it still doesn't really make sense).  Whereas the 101 goes all the way up to the northern border of Oregon but somehow isn't an interstate highway.  Or, like, the 210, which is an interstate for part but only a local for part.  The 110 and the 710 start a few miles apart in the Pasadena/South Pas area and both head to Long Beach, but they're also both Interstates - or, at least, the 110 is for part of it; the other part (the oldest part) is just a local.


Funding, interstate standards, spurs, etc.

/wiki it
 
2014-03-28 07:06:39 PM  

obenchainr: Geotpf: The reason, I think, is that California is smart enough to not duplicate state highway numbers with ones that have Federal highways/freeways, while other states aren't as smart (so State Route 91 and I-91 could potentially be different roads).

The other reason is that the "interstate" vs "state" is kind of silly.  Like, the 405 is an interstate - except that it starts and ends in LA Metro (it's a bypass for the 5, which is why, but it still doesn't really make sense).  Whereas the 101 goes all the way up to the northern border of Oregon but somehow isn't an interstate highway.  Or, like, the 210, which is an interstate for part but only a local for part.  The 110 and the 710 start a few miles apart in the Pasadena/South Pas area and both head to Long Beach, but they're also both Interstates - or, at least, the 110 is for part of it; the other part (the oldest part) is just a local.


Don't get me started on the 110 and 710. Talk about the gaps in the freeway system. They should all be meeting in Pasadena, at the 210. Stupid NIMBYs.

However, IMO, it's perfectly cromulent for all the bypasses and spurs to also be named Interstates (since it's a connected part of the Interstate Highway System). Even that spur of the 5 that heads to the airport and doesn't actually directly connect to the 5 (the 105).

/I remember when they changed the signs from SR-7 to I-710, but not quite old enough to remember SR-11 being changed to I-110
 
2014-03-28 07:11:51 PM  

Prey4reign: I've never been there and will probably never go.  One question I do have -- where did the name Crips come from?


You probably will never come here but THAT is your one question? Really?
 
2014-03-28 07:15:01 PM  

Mr.Hawk: Prey4reign: I've never been there and will probably never go.  One question I do have -- where did the name Crips come from?

You probably will never come here but THAT is your one question? Really?


25.media.tumblr.com
They're crippled. Duh
 
2014-03-28 07:15:44 PM  
In the half century I've been around, I've lived in NY, MA, NH, most of the Gulf and South Atlantic states (except MS and AL), Colorado and now live in Los Angeles County (Pasadena, to be exact).

Of all the places I've lived, I'd only prefer Colorado.  Anything W of I-25 anyway.  (East Denver HS and CU-Boulder Alum.  Go Buffs!)

Florida would be on the list, but every aspect of the state's economy is based on ripping off tourists and retirees.  Everything is a scam... everything.  In FL, you're either a con artist or a victim.  (St. Petersburg beaches were very nice... before 1980.  I lived in Madeira Beach when developers turned miles and miles of mostly unspoiled beaches into miles and miles of hi-rise condos and hotels in just three years.)

Of the places I've visited, the only other two places I'd consider preferable are Reno/Carson City NV or Portland/Salem/Eugene OR.  (NYC is a great place to visit, but I couldn't live there.  Same with Chicago, Seattle and SF.)

And no, after growing up on the W. Coast of Florida, I do NOT go swimming at the beach in California.  Been in the Pacific only twice - the first time was ignorance and the second time was a mistake.  (And now, I must end this line with a parenthesis, because symmetry.)
 
2014-03-28 07:20:23 PM  
After this winter I don't think I can do another one and it's time to leave dreary old Chicago.

I'm really tempted to split the difference between Florida and California for the compromise candidate Austin Texas...

i.imgur.com

www.tpwd.state.tx.us

static.panoramio.com
 
2014-03-28 07:23:02 PM  

Beerguy: Every once in a while I miss living in L.A., and then I remember the traffic, graffiti, constant sound of sirens blaring and I find myself relieved to be out of that crazy place.


Same here, I just moved one county north to Ventura County.  I forgot what it was like to hear people biatch about their "long"  >30min commute.  Oh, and the air is cleaner.

But there are no jobs, so no one think about moving up here ever, at all.  Oh and there are man-eating mountain lions and bears in the street, honest.
 
2014-03-28 07:23:07 PM  

raerae1980: Sorry but our beaches don't look like that. Not the ones I frequent, anyway. Gulf coast Florida, now, they have some UGLY beaches.


Which beaches in Florida did you go to?
 
2014-03-28 07:24:35 PM  

illannoyin: After this winter I don't think I can do another one and it's time to leave dreary old Chicago.

I'm really tempted to split the difference between Florida and California for the compromise candidate Austin Texas...

[i.imgur.com image 543x407]

[www.tpwd.state.tx.us image 768x533]

[static.panoramio.com image 850x564]


Is it me or is that not Austin?
 
2014-03-28 07:29:11 PM  

Mr.Hawk: Prey4reign: I've never been there and will probably never go.  One question I do have -- where did the name Crips come from?

You probably will never come here but THAT is your one question? Really?


And the answer is obviously:

Los Angeles
 
2014-03-28 07:32:50 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: So here's my thing:

In LA, every damn time they mention a highway they put "the" in front of it. The 405, the 5, etc. Lived in the Bay Area for 20 years and never heard it but go to L.A. and even the damn broadcasters do it.

Knock that shiat off. Or there will be hell to pay when I am King.


Hmmm. I do notice that I say "101" and "280" but I do say "the 17" and "the 1". Sometimes it just sounds better.
 
2014-03-28 07:38:35 PM  

Mrtraveler01: raerae1980: Sorry but our beaches don't look like that. Not the ones I frequent, anyway. Gulf coast Florida, now, they have some UGLY beaches.

Which beaches in Florida did you go to?


Not many. One I vivedly recall was west of Gainesville. Can't remember the name but I was shocked at how terrible it was. Drove along the coast but wasn't impressed. Northern part of the state, anway. Haven't been to the southern half.
 
2014-03-28 07:42:50 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: So here's my thing:

In LA, every damn time they mention a highway they put "the" in front of it. The 405, the 5, etc. Lived in the Bay Area for 20 years and never heard it but go to L.A. and even the damn broadcasters do it.

Knock that shiat off. Or there will be hell to pay when I am King.


modestly funny anecdote: I grew up in SoCal and now live in Northern California. I still the 10, the 5, the 405, the 215 but also say 80, 50, 680, 880
 
2014-03-28 07:43:52 PM  

TheJoe03


I'm from the Bay but now that Frisco has become an elitist yuppie hellhole, I'd say LA is better. Better weather and more attractive women and an actual middle and working class.

/San Jose


Yeah, I'm calling shenanigans. No one from the Bay area calls the city "Frisco". That's something that dopey tourists do.
 
2014-03-28 07:45:17 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: So here's my thing:

In LA, every damn time they mention a highway they put "the" in front of it. The 405, the 5, etc. Lived in the Bay Area for 20 years and never heard it but go to L.A. and even the damn broadcasters do it.

Knock that shiat off. Or there will be hell to pay when I am King.


Yeah....I might have been guilty of calling 405 in the Seattle area "The 405" when I moved back after college.

It wasn't a constant thing, but it would occasionally pop up.

/Stopped doing it after a few years.
 
2014-03-28 07:45:24 PM  

jso2897: Smeggy Smurf: The only thing I like about California is you motherfarkers know how to drive.

Well, we ought to - it's about all we f**king do.


Whoever thinks drivers in LA are examples of "motherfarkers [who] know how to drive" doesn't know how to drive.

Down here you have chipped riceboys and pickup truck rednecks doing 95+ alongside stoned lowriders, distracted soccer moms and middle-aged Asian women who are afraid to speed up to more than 45 to merge on a freeway, and in between you've got everyday left-lane commuters who think that a lane change indicator from a car in an adjacent lane means speed up and close the gap.   Get any of them outside the urban freeway system and they have no farking clue how to behave on a limited access interstate with less than three lanes, much less a two-lane rural road.

At least nobody observes the posted speed limit... depending on the stretch of road, the average speed in non-jammed conditions is 70-80 MPH.

I had a colleague transplant from Indianapolis, and after a few weeks he observed "Where I come from, forests have trees, rivers have water, and cops enforce the speed limit."  He also said, "People here drive so close together, that when someone steps on the brake in Pasadena, traffic stops in San Dimas."
 
2014-03-28 08:07:19 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: TheJoe03

I'm from the Bay but now that Frisco has become an elitist yuppie hellhole, I'd say LA is better. Better weather and more attractive women and an actual middle and working class.

/San Jose


Yeah, I'm calling shenanigans. No one from the Bay area calls the city "Frisco". That's something that dopey tourists do.


I say it to piss off the elitist SF dicks that are mostly from out of state but want to act like they are legit SFers. The funny thing is that the rest of the Bay does call it Frisco at times, while in your very own city the minorities (blacks and Latinos) and old school SFers that are being forced out by the douchebags that whine about the term, still use the word. I say it to weed out the people in SF I can't stand, which at this point is like 75% of the city.
 
2014-03-28 08:19:33 PM  
Los Angeles is terrible, please don't move here.

/NoHo represent
 
2014-03-28 08:25:39 PM  

Dr.Zom: Los Angeles is terrible, please don't move here.

/NoHo represent


raerae1980: Lorelle: Beerguy: vernonFL: I love Los Angeles, but then again I stay in a really nice area- Palos Verdes- and I don't drive long distances.

I don't blame you, you live in paradise....not in the valley.

I LIKE living in the Valley. :P

/is looking at the 405 right now
//it isn't crowded
///it will be in about an hour

Hey, we're neighbors.

/no ho


3 No Ho's in one Fark thread... Should there be fear in regards to the time space continuum?
 
2014-03-28 08:27:32 PM  

tenton: obenchainr: Geotpf: The reason, I think, is that California is smart enough to not duplicate state highway numbers with ones that have Federal highways/freeways, while other states aren't as smart (so State Route 91 and I-91 could potentially be different roads).

The other reason is that the "interstate" vs "state" is kind of silly.  Like, the 405 is an interstate - except that it starts and ends in LA Metro (it's a bypass for the 5, which is why, but it still doesn't really make sense).  Whereas the 101 goes all the way up to the northern border of Oregon but somehow isn't an interstate highway.  Or, like, the 210, which is an interstate for part but only a local for part.  The 110 and the 710 start a few miles apart in the Pasadena/South Pas area and both head to Long Beach, but they're also both Interstates - or, at least, the 110 is for part of it; the other part (the oldest part) is just a local.

Don't get me started on the 110 and 710. Talk about the gaps in the freeway system. They should all be meeting in Pasadena, at the 210. Stupid NIMBYs.

However, IMO, it's perfectly cromulent for all the bypasses and spurs to also be named Interstates (since it's a connected part of the Interstate Highway System). Even that spur of the 5 that heads to the airport and doesn't actually directly connect to the 5 (the 105).

/I remember when they changed the signs from SR-7 to I-710, but not quite old enough to remember SR-11 being changed to I-110


The 105 was originally going to merge into the 5, but the NIMBYs in Norwalk killed that.

CA-7 and 11 changed to 710 & 110 around the same time (between 1980 & 1984). The numbers were retired but now they're back...as border crossing links. CA-7 runs from east of Calexico to I-8, and CA-11 has been approved as a tollway that will run east of Otay Mesa to the 125/905 interchange.
 
2014-03-28 08:36:24 PM  

raerae1980: Mrtraveler01: raerae1980: Sorry but our beaches don't look like that. Not the ones I frequent, anyway. Gulf coast Florida, now, they have some UGLY beaches.

Which beaches in Florida did you go to?

Not many. One I vivedly recall was west of Gainesville. Can't remember the name but I was shocked at how terrible it was. Drove along the coast but wasn't impressed. Northern part of the state, anway. Haven't been to the southern half.


Cedar Key? Haven't been there so I can't judge. I've heard the Panhandle ones are nice too so I'm surprised. I've only been to the gulf beach between Clearwater and Naples and I can say that those help make up for the sad excuse that are the Gulf beaches outside of Florida (I am a little biased but these are some of the best beaches I've been to)

www.pinellascounty.org

Ft. Desoto State Park-near St. Petersburg

www.fodors.com

Siesta Key Beach-near Sarasota

4.bp.blogspot.com

Sanibel Island-Near Ft. Myers

www.beachhunter.net

Marco Island beach-near Naples
 
2014-03-28 08:48:39 PM  

Mrtraveler01: raerae1980: Mrtraveler01: raerae1980: Sorry but our beaches don't look like that. Not the ones I frequent, anyway. Gulf coast Florida, now, they have some UGLY beaches.

Which beaches in Florida did you go to?

Not many. One I vivedly recall was west of Gainesville. Can't remember the name but I was shocked at how terrible it was. Drove along the coast but wasn't impressed. Northern part of the state, anway. Haven't been to the southern half.

Cedar Key? Haven't been there so I can't judge. I've heard the Panhandle ones are nice too so I'm surprised. I've only been to the gulf beach between Clearwater and Naples and I can say that those help make up for the sad excuse that are the Gulf beaches outside of Florida (I am a little biased but these are some of the best beaches I've been to)

Ft. Desoto State Park-near St. Petersburg

Siesta Key Beach-near Sarasota

Sanibel Island-Near Ft. Myers

Marco Island beach-near Naples


You know what, I think it was Cedar Keys. Thanks for the pics, those beaches do look pretty. I basically work at the beach, I'm that close to it. So I'm very biased towards Malibu and think its one of the best. I'm very lucky to have a view of the beach everyday at lunch. Don't get me started on our sunsets.
 
2014-03-28 09:11:41 PM  
lived in LA almost all of my life.  i miss it sometimes.  the valley was awesome in the 80's
 
2014-03-28 09:15:21 PM  

echomike23: lived in LA almost all of my life.  i miss it sometimes.  the valley was awesome in the 80's


Not too long ago, I found Van Nuys Blvd on Netflix. Never knew the valley was the spot for cruising. Loved the soundtrack.
 
2014-03-28 09:19:31 PM  
ReverendJynxed : /haters gon hate.

I am here to represent the islander crowd (whatever island you hail from).

Because let's face it, island people are awesome people.

Brewer's Bay ... empty during the week (because it's out of the touristy areas), BBQ and jams on the weekend.
donwiss.com

Magens Bay ... AKA the stereotypical 'caribbean' tourist beach.
upload.wikimedia.org
// homesick
 
2014-03-28 09:27:22 PM  
Beautiful weather, beautiful women, interesting industry. But all people from LA talk about is freeways.
 
2014-03-28 11:04:34 PM  

Tellingthem: When I lived in San Diego I had to do a lot of jobs up in LA. The general rule was we work from 10-2. anytime before or after that meant you were fighting traffic there and back. Besides that I really didn't mind LA. Would never live there but nice place to visit. And when you get to any large city you will find all sorts of people some are nice and some aren't. A lot of snobs and posers. People who think they are special because they live there. A lot of it was for show and you quickly learned how to spot the fakes. But also lots of really nice and interesting people as well. It is what it is and what you take from it.

I just grew tired of it all. And moving back to small town flyover country is like a vacation. Yeah the weather is nicer there but you pay for it.


I had similar experience living in San Diego but working all over the state.

I still love LA. And SD. I just love Portland more.

I do miss In-N-Out though.
 
2014-03-28 11:17:55 PM  

Champion of the Sun: Beautiful weather, beautiful women, interesting industry. But all people from LA talk about is freeways.


When you spend most of your life on the freeway, well..

There are places that are 6 miles from us that will take a half hour in traffic.
 
2014-03-28 11:25:53 PM  
I live in the valley, 15 minutes from work.  Rarely take the freeway. When I do, it's not a big deal, I just leave the proper amount of time. We tend to think of places in terms of how many minutes to get there, not how many miles.

Weather is great, I find the people here are better than many places I visit, especially in terms of tolerance of people who aren't like them.  We could use more rain though.
 
2014-03-29 12:08:02 AM  

shamalamadingdong: Buttknuckle: I have so many cities that I want to visit and LA is straight at the bottom of the list.

/Superficial and fake=no thanks
 You know, I hear that shiat a lot from people who have never been to L.A.  And I've been all around the world, and I've found that the ratio of superficial and fake people stays around the same just about everywhere I go.  Every town in every country has salt of the earth and snakes in the grass.  I do find, however, that the rate of judgmental, ignorant twats who think they know all there is to know about L.A. and its denizens from watching TV and anecdotes from other judgmental twats, jumps when you leave Southern California.



Pretty much.  I had an aversion to LA until I actually went there.  Now I can't wait to go back.  If PDX doesn't work out, then I'd be quite happy to live in LA.
 
2014-03-29 12:22:25 AM  
...and the earth just moved. Feel it?
 
2014-03-29 12:45:06 AM  
Nice 5.3 earthquake tonight. Long one too, and USGS says it had a preshow an hour earlier and two encores a few minutes after. Yikes.

/South Bay here
 
2014-03-29 01:10:42 AM  

Practical_Draconian: Nice 5.3 earthquake tonight. Long one too, and USGS says it had a preshow an hour earlier and two encores a few minutes after. Yikes.

/South Bay here


I'm in the South Bay too (Redondo) and yeah...that was a loooooong one. Nothing fell or anything, but still. Always makes me a little queasy.
 
2014-03-29 01:40:42 AM  
Approximately 20,000 people just died in an earthquake, massive fires are spreading throughout the region, and hordes of illegal immigrants are pelting drivers with Hispanic cheese.  Non-Californians: I encourage you as strongly as possible to NOT move here!  It's a dystopian nightmare!
 
2014-03-29 02:12:46 AM  

Mr.Hawk: Dr.Zom: Los Angeles is terrible, please don't move here.

/NoHo represent

raerae1980: Lorelle: Beerguy: vernonFL: I love Los Angeles, but then again I stay in a really nice area- Palos Verdes- and I don't drive long distances.

I don't blame you, you live in paradise....not in the valley.

I LIKE living in the Valley. :P

/is looking at the 405 right now
//it isn't crowded
///it will be in about an hour

Hey, we're neighbors.

/no ho

3 No Ho's in one Fark thread... Should there be fear in regards to the time space continuum?


Maybe the beer continuum...

They felt this quake on Catalina. I didn't feel anything.
 
2014-03-29 02:20:04 AM  
Bummed they preemmpted Hannibal.
 
2014-03-29 02:28:19 AM  

obenchainr: Geotpf: The reason, I think, is that California is smart enough to not duplicate state highway numbers with ones that have Federal highways/freeways, while other states aren't as smart (so State Route 91 and I-91 could potentially be different roads).

The other reason is that the "interstate" vs "state" is kind of silly.  Like, the 405 is an interstate - except that it starts and ends in LA Metro (it's a bypass for the 5, which is why, but it still doesn't really make sense).  Whereas the 101 goes all the way up to the northern border of Oregon but somehow isn't an interstate highway.  Or, like, the 210, which is an interstate for part but only a local for part.  The 110 and the 710 start a few miles apart in the Pasadena/South Pas area and both head to Long Beach, but they're also both Interstates - or, at least, the 110 is for part of it; the other part (the oldest part) is just a local.


There is some rhyme and reason to the interstate naming (in case you're too lazy to go to wikipedia as suggested above):
-East/West interstates are even numbers, 2-98 with increasing numbers as you go North.
-North/South interstates are odd number, 1-99 with increasing numbers as you go East.
-The more major of the interstates are multiples of five.
-Loops are 3 digit, with an even numbered prefix added to the highway they're connected to
-Spurs are 3 digit with an odd numbered prefix added to the highway they're connected to
 
2014-03-29 04:10:07 AM  

Captain Dan: Approximately 20,000 people just died in an earthquake, massive fires are spreading throughout the region, and hordes of illegal immigrants are pelting drivers with Hispanic nacho cheese.  Non-Californians: I encourage you as strongly as possible to NOT move here!  It's a dystopian nightmare!


Adjusted.

Plus you forgot about the avalanches of celebrity skin as various skin lifts collapsed.
 
2014-03-29 10:53:09 AM  

lohphat: In SoCal people know and refer to the freeways by their given name: The San Diego Fwy (405), The Santa Ana Fwy (5), The Long Beach Fwy (710), The Garden Grove Fwy (22), The San Bernadino Fwy (605), etc.


The 605 would be The San Gabriel River Freeway. The San Bernardino is I-10 east of downtown.
 
2014-03-29 12:28:52 PM  

SurelyShirley: lohphat: In SoCal people know and refer to the freeways by their given name: The San Diego Fwy (405), The Santa Ana Fwy (5), The Long Beach Fwy (710), The Garden Grove Fwy (22), The San Bernadino Fwy (605), etc.

The 605 would be The San Gabriel River Freeway. The San Bernardino is I-10 east of downtown.


Yes, someone corrected me earlier. I've been gone for 20 years. I goofed. But it proves the point about the names.

Here in SF the only name I can recall used here is The Nimitz highway. All the others I can't begin to name.
 
2014-03-29 01:04:01 PM  
I prefer the eight million people in Grand Central Terminal.

www.glenwoodnyc.com
 
2014-03-29 01:22:11 PM  
Lesser known fact: there are 88 cities in Los Angeles County, 87 of which are not the City of Los Angeles.
 
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