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2014-03-28 05:00:12 PM
7 votes:
That PBS show about parrots and all of the owners that abandon them was pretty depressing.

Don't get a parrot, people. Just don't.
2014-03-28 07:45:50 PM
4 votes:

infinitydreamer: If you are so insecure that you can't handle an animal speaking a common name because it makes your relationship feel less valid you should probably just go die.


It's a good start, but I feel the need to add to it:
If you are so insecure that you can't handle an animal speaking a common name because it makes your relationship feel less valid and you handle the situation by storing the animal in a garage for three years and neglecting it instead of finding it another home, you should be taken out and shot.
2014-03-28 07:05:18 PM
4 votes:
If you are so insecure that you can't handle an animal speaking a common name because it makes your relationship feel less valid you should probably just go die.

Hate to think what might have happened if the guy had kids who didn't want to never speak of their deceased mother again.
2014-03-28 08:26:32 PM
3 votes:
My wife and I bought a baby African Grey about 4 years ago, against my better judgement.  I was (and am) very concerned about the lifespan, and the fact that it will most certainly outlive us (we were in our 40's at the time).  Our beautiful Angel has never been clipped, and spends considerable time out of his cage (the cage is mainly for sleeping, or for those unfortunate periods of time when neither we or my adult children are home.)  He definitely has a distinct personality, the intellect of a small child, and can speak and interact FAR more than mere mimicry (i.e. if someone is eating something interesting, he will say "want some!", he will respond appropriately to various yes/no questions, he calls me an asshole if he overhears me tell my wife I'm putting the birds* to bed, etc.)

We've been very careful to do everything we can to ensure he is properly "socialized" and not a single-owner bird.  While he absolutely dotes on my wife and will gleefully suffer any indignity at her hands (belly scritches flipped on his back, hugs and kisses, etc. - basically anything you would do with a puppy) - he will tolerate and accept other people to a lesser extent, including head scritches, taking treats without biting, giving kisses to show affection, hanging out on a shoulder or knee (if sitting).  He's a good bird, not particularly aggressive, and should be adoptable when the inevitable happens.

I feel dreadfully guilty about propagating the whole "abandoned bird" syndrome, which I read a lot more about *after* we got him, much to my chagrin.  I have some land in Texas, and am seriously considering setting up some sort of sanctuary / rescue foundation when I retire in a few more years - but I guess I don't know how to get past the whole "what happens after I kick the bucket?" question.  I can't expect my kids to just automatically make it their life's mission to care for my birds, let alone other peoples'.

* We also have some budgies and cockatiels, who enjoy similar freedoms.  They aren't nearly as smart, but they are as loved.
2014-03-28 05:36:37 PM
3 votes:

Lando Lincoln: That PBS show about parrots and all of the owners that abandon them was pretty depressing.

Don't get a parrot, people. Just don't.


Yep.

They're social, smart, and live forever.

Even if you take good care of it, it's cruel.
2014-03-28 07:50:41 PM
2 votes:
There are several species that speak in context. One of mine argues with me about bedtime.

As for the birds are meant to fly comments, some dipshiat decided that with 2 of my birds. Dumping south american birds on a golf course in northwest arkansas was not doing them any favors. The biggest compliment I will ever have is my human hating, wild, aggressive male sun conure fly across the house for the sole purpose of sitting on my shoulder and giving me a kiss. Birdies are awesome.
2014-03-28 07:19:00 PM
2 votes:

subsetzero: I've had a Congo African Grey for sixteen years so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.  Our Gandalf says dozens of phrases and uses them in contextually correct situations.  She laughs, chuckles, snorts, giggles, farts, kisses, barks, meows, clucks like a chicken and beeps like the microwave.  She says "bye bye go to work" when I leave in the morning and says "Hi Mom" to my wife but never to me.  Without a doubt she'll out live me.  For that reason alone we never ever taught her stuff that would make her un-adoptable.

That British slag should rot in hell for what she did to that bird.


You win an internets. Nice people deserve recognitions too.
2014-03-28 07:17:41 PM
2 votes:
African grey parrots are considered to be on the emotional/intellectual level of a 7 yr. old child.  What would happen to someone who left a child caged in a dark, cold garage for three years?  The bird's former owners should be shot.
2014-03-28 07:10:56 PM
2 votes:
Sometimes I really hate people......and I'm a people person.
2014-03-28 07:02:34 PM
2 votes:

Satanic_Hamster: For the life of me, I don't understand why you would do that to an animal.


Because a disturbingly large percentage of us humans are foolish enough to still think that consciousness is a binary proposition, rather than a matter of degrees, and so easily rationalize treating other living creatures with stunning cruelty without so much as a second thought.

Empathy is one of humanity's greatest gifts and we do not value it enough.
2014-03-28 06:57:24 PM
2 votes:
So, the part left out of the article, and really what I want to know: what happened the the a$$holes who originally put the bird alone in a dog cage in a cold, dark garage for 3 years while it slowly plucked its own feathers out?  They were shaved and left naked in widely-separated, 5x5 concrete cells 20 feet below ground level with a small, barred window in the roof during monsoon season in India, right?  Or fined, or something?
2014-03-28 08:21:10 PM
1 votes:

Lt. Cheese Weasel: doglover: Parrots are great. Not as pets, per se, but they're almost as smart as crows and they can speak mimic any human language.  Sorry, but that had to be corrected.


Well that's ignorant.
2014-03-28 07:57:23 PM
1 votes:

subsetzero: I've had a Congo African Grey for sixteen years so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.  Our Gandalf says dozens of phrases and uses them in contextually correct situations.  She laughs, chuckles, snorts, giggles, farts, kisses, barks, meows, clucks like a chicken and beeps like the microwave.  She says "bye bye go to work" when I leave in the morning and says "Hi Mom" to my wife but never to me.  Without a doubt she'll out live me.  For that reason alone we never ever taught her stuff that would make her un-adoptable.

That British slag should rot in hell for what she did to that bird.


My grey asks "are we smoking" because I don't smoke in the house and he gets to go out with me. Tells me "we got beer here" along with the same sort of laughs and assorted sounds. He is a rescue bird. They are about as smart as a 3 year old. They do more than copy, they can put together new phrases with words they learn. Don't buy a bird like a Grey. If you are up for it, rescue a bird, do some research first they live 60 years or more.
2014-03-28 07:17:22 PM
1 votes:

Jument: Fish are meant to swim, cats are meant to hunt, etc.


Humans are meant to live naked on the grasslands of east Africa.
2014-03-28 07:08:24 PM
1 votes:
I've had a Congo African Grey for sixteen years so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.  Our Gandalf says dozens of phrases and uses them in contextually correct situations.  She laughs, chuckles, snorts, giggles, farts, kisses, barks, meows, clucks like a chicken and beeps like the microwave.  She says "bye bye go to work" when I leave in the morning and says "Hi Mom" to my wife but never to me.  Without a doubt she'll out live me.  For that reason alone we never ever taught her stuff that would make her un-adoptable.

That British slag should rot in hell for what she did to that bird.
2014-03-28 06:54:21 PM
1 votes:

brimed03: Ihaveanevilparrot: The bird's vet has prescribed him 0.1ml of Amitriptyline a day - the same form of prozac which is also given to humans.

Are they using prozac as a general term for antidepressant? I've never heard it used that way, at least not in the U.S., and Prozac is not the same drug as Amitriptyline.

Someone needs to create a chart that shows how all anti-depression pills are "Prozac" to the media.  Like all handguns are Glocks and all rifles are AK-47s.


And all dogs are pit bulls.
2014-03-28 06:52:29 PM
1 votes:

Ihaveanevilparrot: The bird's vet has prescribed him 0.1ml of Amitriptyline a day - the same form of prozac which is also given to humans.

Are they using prozac as a general term for antidepressant? I've never heard it used that way, at least not in the U.S., and Prozac is not the same drug as Amitriptyline.


Someone needs to create a chart that shows how all anti-depression pills are "Prozac" to the media.  Like all handguns are Glocks and all rifles are AK-47s.
2014-03-28 06:44:03 PM
1 votes:
For the life of me, I don't understand why you would do that to an animal.
2014-03-28 06:38:17 PM
1 votes:
The bird's vet has prescribed him 0.1ml of Amitriptyline a day - the same form of prozac which is also given to humans.

Are they using prozac as a general term for antidepressant? I've never heard it used that way, at least not in the U.S., and Prozac is not the same drug as Amitriptyline.
 
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