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(The Wire)   In order to crackdown on...I dunno voting fraud by people with full time jobs.. maybe?..WI's new voting law ends all weekend early voting hours and only allows absentee ballots to be cast between 8am and 7pm on weekdays   (thewire.com) divider line 193
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2014-03-28 11:59:32 AM
The trend towards reduction in early voting by Republicans is just about as transparently anti-American as one could possibly get.  I don't understand how anyone can support it.
 
2014-03-28 12:07:45 PM
bottom line:

• republicans want fewer americans to vote
• democrats want more americans to vote

which is more "american?"
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-03-28 12:10:12 PM
Retired tea baggers don't have to vote on weekends or after work.
 
2014-03-28 12:11:38 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: The trend towards reduction in early voting by Republicans is just about as transparently anti-American as one could possibly get.  I don't understand how anyone can support it.


Tell stupid people ghost stories about violent cheating minorities who lazily sit at home with five babies and spend all their time coming up with ways to commit voter fraud when they aren't cheating the welfare system. The simplest story is to just repeat the phrase CHICAGO POLITICS every day for 5 years straight.

This is almost literally the entire GOP platform.
 
2014-03-28 12:23:51 PM
This won't work. I have it on reliable authority that Obummercare has caused all the takers to drop out of the workforce. So they'll have plenty of time to vote themselves a pay raise in the form of more food stamps.
 
2014-03-28 12:39:51 PM
They're only doing this because they're horrible people.
 
2014-03-28 12:44:27 PM

Marcus Aurelius: They're only doing this because they're horrible people.


The care about the families of poll workers.
 
2014-03-28 01:03:02 PM

FlashHarry: bottom line:

• republicans want fewer americans to vote
• democrats want more americans to vote

which is more "american?"


libofarts aren't american

they aren't even people
 
2014-03-28 01:26:23 PM
One rule change will fix all this.  No election is final until all eligible voters have cast their ballot.
 
2014-03-28 01:41:46 PM

Jackson Herring: FlashHarry: bottom line:

• republicans want fewer americans to vote
• democrats want more americans to vote

which is more "american?"

libofarts aren't american

they aren't even people


they aren't even
 
2014-03-28 01:43:46 PM
That "absentee ballots" thing was a joke, right? I can't even tell anymore.
 
2014-03-28 01:45:05 PM

jchic: One rule change will fix all this.  No election is final until all eligible voters have cast their ballot.


terri

hey terri wake up

we're still waiting on your vote

terri
 
2014-03-28 01:45:13 PM
Right wingers and right wing troll accounts:  Don't you ever feel BAD about having your side being such sacks of shiat?

Not even a little?
 
2014-03-28 01:46:03 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: The trend towards reduction in early voting by Republicans is just about as transparently anti-American as one could possibly get.  I don't understand how anyone can support it.


/thread
 
2014-03-28 01:46:49 PM

vpb: Retired tea baggers don't have to vote on weekends or after work.


My first thought as well.  The only people I know who are stupid enough to support something like this are either retired or single moms on public assistance.

/the latter group is particularly baffling
 
2014-03-28 01:47:46 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: The trend towards reduction in early voting by Republicans is just about as transparently anti-American as one could possibly get.  I don't understand how anyone can support it.


All Republicans are evil and so is anyone who ever supports anything they do.

Satanic_Hamster: Right wingers and right wing troll accounts:  Don't you ever feel BAD about having your side being such sacks of shiat?

Not even a little?


See above.
 
2014-03-28 01:48:12 PM
It the called "No polls for souls"?
 
2014-03-28 01:48:43 PM
Disenfranchisement FTW!
 
2014-03-28 01:48:45 PM
and he vetoed the part about the state paying for the early voting? So if you're a poor jurisdiction, no early voting?
 
2014-03-28 01:49:06 PM
But I thought all "Hard working 'mericans" were Republicans?

You mean many of them are old retired leaches taking their social security?
 
2014-03-28 01:51:33 PM
Part of the reasoning the Republican legislature put forward to justify limiting the voting hours is that they wanted consistency across the state and it was not fair to a county of 5,000 people with limited resources to stay open as much as a city of Milwaukee with 500,000 people so therefore chop it off short.

I wish I could find that quote but it was in an article I read a week or so ago.
 
2014-03-28 01:51:44 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Right wingers and right wing troll accounts:  Don't you ever feel BAD about having your side being such sacks of shiat?

Not even a little?


gottta fulfill those mechanical turk contracts
 
2014-03-28 01:52:27 PM
img.fark.net
 
2014-03-28 01:52:43 PM

Headso: Disenfranchisement FTW!


Well, at this point, at least they aren't targeting the poor, or minorities. And actually, stats show that low turnouts benefit Republicans almost across the board, regardless of ethnicity and economics of the voter base in question.
Just plain discouraging voting will help them, and so, they seek to do it.
 
2014-03-28 01:52:48 PM
When does Wisconsin vote to join Russia?
 
2014-03-28 01:52:54 PM

sprawl15: Jackson Herring: FlashHarry: bottom line:

• republicans want fewer americans to vote
• democrats want more americans to vote

which is more "american?"

libofarts aren't american

they aren't even people

they aren't even


my thought too.  But seriously though: A national holiday for federal elections and state holiday for state elections (local elections, sorry) would go a long way to helping more people being able to vote
 
2014-03-28 01:53:28 PM

Biff_Steel: and he vetoed the part about the state paying for the early voting? So if you're a poor jurisdiction, no early voting?


how else are they going to hurt obama's jobs numbers
 
2014-03-28 01:54:10 PM

sprawl15: Biff_Steel: and he vetoed the part about the state paying for the early voting? So if you're a poor jurisdiction, no early voting?

how else are they going to hurt obama's jobs numbers


other than being reelected of course
 
2014-03-28 01:56:24 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: The trend towards reduction in early voting by Republicans is just about as transparently anti-American as one could possibly get.  I don't understand how anyone can support it.


Yeah especially since on paper it would tend to favor those who don't work .  Extremely unfair !  Wait !
 
2014-03-28 01:59:16 PM
Wisconsinites have had multiple chances to give the GOP the boot. I have absolutely no sympathy; you have brought this entirely upon yourselves.
 
2014-03-28 01:59:45 PM
Walker's administration cited the need to create "uniform" hours across the state for early voting as his reason for signing the bill.

Uniform hours across the state can't be more inclusive?

Republicans are despicable people.
 
2014-03-28 02:02:08 PM

jchic: One rule change will fix all this.  No election is final until all eligible voters have cast their ballot.


This is a terrible idea. Sure voter participation rates stink, but if someone isn't going to vote I would like to think a significant portion of those people aren't motivated to consider who it will be. You see this in down ballot races: people go in to vote for President and then when they have to choose who they want to be their next County Commissioner so they vote for whoever has the right letter after their name, or the first name on the list, or the incumbent (since, hey, if you don't even know what they do, they must be doing an OK job of it since you aren't complaining.) I don't have any stats on me (if anyone does I appreciate it) but from what I remember very few people (20-25%?) don't fill out their ballots completely for the down ballot races. What percentage of people who vote for those offices do you think actually know the relative positions of the candidates involved and have a strong opinion on which will be superior at the job?

We shouldn't be limiting access to the polls, but not voting can be the right decision sometimes.
 
2014-03-28 02:03:28 PM

jchic: One rule change will fix all this.  No election is final until all eligible voters have cast their ballot.


I like it, but I'd change it so that when the polls close, unregistered voters' "ballots" get submitted as "blank".

The question is, do we count blank ballots as "incumbent" votes (I don't like this, but I can see value in using this as a motivator to vote, even for Mickey Mouse or "Anyone but Shkenaidel"), do we require a runoff between the top vote-getters until someone gets 50%+1 of the vote, send it to the State House for them to vote on (I also don't like this one very much), or simply vacate the position until the next election?
 
2014-03-28 02:04:01 PM
rashmanly.files.wordpress.com
Poor old grandpa, voted democrat. Sing it, ray..........Link

Next election, vote early and vote often. Because there is no voter fraud in America. lol
 
2014-03-28 02:04:55 PM

 jso2897: Headso: Disenfranchisement FTW!

Well, at this point, at least they aren't targeting the poor, or minorities. And actually, stats show that low turnouts benefit Republicans almost across the board, regardless of ethnicity and economics of the voter base in question.
Just plain discouraging voting will help them, and so, they seek to do it.


The way they are discouraging voting in this case is to make it harder for people with less flexibility in their schedules to vote. That seems like it would target poor and lower middle class people above others.
 
2014-03-28 02:06:09 PM

varmitydog: [rashmanly.files.wordpress.com image 450x300]
Poor old grandpa, voted democrat. Sing it, ray..........Link

Next election, vote early and vote often. Because there is no voter fraud in America. lol


Isn't he cute? And he can talk, too!
 
2014-03-28 02:06:16 PM

varmitydog: [rashmanly.files.wordpress.com image 450x300]
Poor old grandpa, voted democrat. Sing it, ray..........Link

Next election, vote early and vote often. Because there is no voter fraud in America. lol


notice how his link isn't a bunch of stats on real voter fraud...heh!
 
2014-03-28 02:06:44 PM

varmitydog: [rashmanly.files.wordpress.com image 450x300]
Poor old grandpa, voted democrat. Sing it, ray..........Link

Next election, vote early and vote often. Because there is no voter fraud in America. lol


Your proof of voter fraud is a video by some random dude?


Well, I'm convinced.
 
2014-03-28 02:06:53 PM
Election rules need to be nationalized. This stuff is too much bull shiat.
 
2014-03-28 02:07:18 PM

varmitydog: [rashmanly.files.wordpress.com image 450x300]
Poor old grandpa, voted democrat. Sing it, ray..........Link

Next election, vote early and vote often. Because there is no voter fraud in America. lol


Wow, how pathetic.  I could make a better graphic than that, and I have no skills.
 
2014-03-28 02:07:39 PM

varmitydog: [rashmanly.files.wordpress.com image 450x300]
Poor old grandpa, voted democrat. Sing it, ray..........Link

Next election, vote early and vote often. Because there is no voter fraud in America. lol


So how does not voting on the weekend cut down voter fraud exactly?
 
2014-03-28 02:11:01 PM
The easiest way to make sure that a Democrat doesn't get elected, is to eliminate democracy itself.
 
2014-03-28 02:11:47 PM

Corvus: varmitydog: [rashmanly.files.wordpress.com image 450x300]
Poor old grandpa, voted democrat. Sing it, ray..........Link

Next election, vote early and vote often. Because there is no voter fraud in America. lol

So how does not voting on the weekend cut down voter fraud exactly?


libs aren't trying to hide from their unemployment officer on the weekends, and when the cat's away...
 
2014-03-28 02:12:38 PM

Soup4Bonnie: Part of the reasoning the Republican legislature put forward to justify limiting the voting hours is that they wanted consistency across the state and it was not fair to a county of 5,000 people with limited resources to stay open as much as a city of Milwaukee with 500,000 people so therefore chop it off short.

I wish I could find that quote but it was in an article I read a week or so ago.



Sure, if by "reasoning" you mean "transparent bullshiat rationalization to provide cover for them trying to suppress votes which would be cast against them" then I agree.

I can only say I'm very glad to live in Maryland, where I can get an absentee ballot well before election day without needing to come up with some excuse for it, and cast it at my leisure. I've missed votes before because it was difficult to get out of work for it, now I'll never miss a vote again.

I would support either making election day a national holiday (as it should be - we can call it "Freedom Day" if that helps) and/or making absentee ballots freely available to anyone who requests them, like they are here in Maryland.
 
2014-03-28 02:14:24 PM
Slaves dont vote...
 
2014-03-28 02:20:19 PM

Headso: jso2897: Headso: Disenfranchisement FTW!

Well, at this point, at least they aren't targeting the poor, or minorities. And actually, stats show that low turnouts benefit Republicans almost across the board, regardless of ethnicity and economics of the voter base in question.
Just plain discouraging voting will help them, and so, they seek to do it.

The way they are discouraging voting in this case is to make it harder for people with less flexibility in their schedules to vote. That seems like it would target poor and lower middle class people above others.


ANY inconvenience will fall hardest on the poor. This is just not specifically targeted at them - and again - ANY reduction in turnout seems to help the GOP - even in uptown voting districts. So I think we will see more of this kind of things in places where Republicans control the voting laws.
 
2014-03-28 02:22:36 PM

mongbiohazard: I would support either making election day a national holiday


Democrats must know or have done some studies as to why this isn't an issue they want to peruse, you would think as a pr kinda issue you couldn't have a better one to champion. Giving people a day off and it's for freedom? you can't beat it. Especially when the other side is going to be a chorus of transparent derp telling everyone why having a day off to vote is bad.
 
2014-03-28 02:22:40 PM
Then the unions will step in and make sure all of their employees can have paid time off to vote and the non-union workers will be shut out. I think Scott Walker did not think his clever plan all the way through.
 
2014-03-28 02:25:38 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-28 02:25:38 PM

jso2897: Headso: jso2897: Headso: Disenfranchisement FTW!

Well, at this point, at least they aren't targeting the poor, or minorities. And actually, stats show that low turnouts benefit Republicans almost across the board, regardless of ethnicity and economics of the voter base in question.
Just plain discouraging voting will help them, and so, they seek to do it.

The way they are discouraging voting in this case is to make it harder for people with less flexibility in their schedules to vote. That seems like it would target poor and lower middle class people above others.

ANY inconvenience will fall hardest on the poor. This is just not specifically targeted at them - and again - ANY reduction in turnout seems to help the GOP - even in uptown voting districts. So I think we will see more of this kind of things in places where Republicans control the voting laws.


I agree that any inconvenience will hurt the poor the most, which is why the GOP fights to make voting inconvenient. You seem to be saying the GOP is just tripping into disenfranchising the poor and lower middle class versus specifically working to do just that.
 
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