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(American Thinker)   Switching to ICD-10 coding will kill off American doctors, which are apparently a weaker strain than those in countries which made the switch a decade and a half ago   (americanthinker.com) divider line 177
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2014-03-28 08:22:07 AM  
Some people just aren't up to the task of clicking on drop-down menus.
 
2014-03-28 10:02:22 AM  
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2014-03-28 10:14:17 AM  

xenophon10k: Some people just aren't up to the task of clicking on drop-down menus.


Wait until they figure out they can type the first few characters and it jumps to, or very close to, the correct one.

They may need some additional training to get to that point.
 
2014-03-28 10:19:49 AM  

make me some tea: xenophon10k: Some people just aren't up to the task of clicking on drop-down menus.

Wait until they figure out they can type the first few characters and it jumps to, or very close to, the correct one.

They may need some additional training to get to that point.


Oh. My. God. Panic could ensue!
 
2014-03-28 10:34:41 AM  
What's worse is that ICD-10 removes the Start menu.
 
2014-03-28 10:37:12 AM  
FTFA: You won't read about the International Classification of Disease (ICD) on TMZ or hear it discussed on The View, but it has the potential to be an unpleasant October surprise in the health care world.

Why the fark would TMZ or The View dedicate time to that subject?  That's like getting pissed at a dentist for not rotating the tires on your car.
 
2014-03-28 10:43:15 AM  
Based on some of the stuff i see doctors' offices submit now, i can honestly believe that switching to the new dx codes would cause the end of the workd as we know it.
 
2014-03-28 10:43:33 AM  
I'm pretty sure most of the doctors around here are FROM those other countries
 
2014-03-28 10:52:59 AM  
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2014-03-28 10:56:31 AM  

SilentStrider: Based on some of the stuff i see doctors' offices submit now, i can honestly believe that switching to the new dx codes would cause the end of the workd as we know it.


It would sure be nice if when I got my bills that they'd give me the code description instead of just the code.  I mean, I'm fully capable of looking up the codes if I have to.  But for crying out loud - I design systems like that.  It's not that farking hard to provide the code description on a report or bill.
 
2014-03-28 10:59:06 AM  
On the plus side, they said something wasn't a partisan issue. So, baby steps.


On the other hand
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2014-03-28 10:59:06 AM  
Change is scary.  Look at the way people are sh*tting their pants over the "new subtraction" method that some schools are adopting, as if they actually give a f*ck how their kids execute subtraction problems.  That other countries have done it successfully and can provide lessons for how to do so smoothly is immaterial... OUR way is the BEST way no matter what.
 
2014-03-28 11:02:38 AM  
You won't read about the International Classification of Disease (ICD) on TMZ or hear it discussed on The View, but it has the potential to be an unpleasant October surprise in the health care world. It is a list of codes that physicians and hospitals use when billing insurance companies. These codes cover all manner of medical diagnoses for diseases, conditions, and injuries.

I'm falling in love with conspiracy theorists and their work.

The ICD-10 is not the fault of ObamaCare, nor is it Bush's fault. The classification preceded even Bill Clinton. So this is not a partisan issue. Instead, it is an issue of complexity, arriving in the wake of the largest health care overhaul in history, with its attendant chaos and confusion.

I want to know if the Pentavorite is responsible.

This will accelerate the demise of private practice, already underway due to ObamaCare. Come October 1, "The doctor is in" may be a phrase of historical interest only.

What is he doing with Lucy? Who is this guy?

Brian C Joondeph, M.D., MPS, a Denver-based physician, is an advocate of smaller, more efficient government. Twitter @retardaldoctor.

You killed Lucy! You bastard!
 
2014-03-28 11:04:53 AM  
I never knew medical billing codes stirred such passion in people.
 
2014-03-28 11:09:11 AM  

Nabb1: I never knew medical billing codes stirred such passion in people.


Sometimes I think the entire country has turned into Katie Kaboom from the Animaniacs.

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2014-03-28 11:13:19 AM  
Mrs. Weasel codes for a living, so I'm really getting E906.8'ed from these replies.
 
2014-03-28 11:14:59 AM  

Nabb1: I never knew medical billing codes stirred such passion in people.


At least the writer is an MD, so it actually affects his life.  Not really worth the doom-and-gloom predictions, methinks.
 
2014-03-28 11:17:29 AM  
but it has the potential to be an unpleasant October surprise in the health care world.

No it doesn't.  I worked in health care--billing claims to insurance providers, and the only thing annoying about ICD-10 was waiting for it to take effect.

Also, "October Surprise" has no business being used in this context.

Hold on, let me click the article...

The ICD-10 is not the fault of ObamaCare, nor is it Bush's fault.  The classification preceded even Bill Clinton.  So this is not a partisan issue.  Instead, it is an issue of complexity, arriving in the wake of the largest health care overhaul in history, with its attendant chaos and confusion.


This is the most thoroughly stupid paragraph I have read all week.

Then there's the rest of the piece.

Here, I'll sum up--

"Numbers are confusing to us.  Based on that fact, it goes without saying that more numbers lead to more confusion, which i'm sure you all would agree is a bad thing, because numbers are confusing to you, too.  I won't even get started on letters and words.

See, here at Never Researched Anything Remotely Related to the Topic We Feign Expertise In Laboratories, we care about you, the slabheaded moron.  More specifically, we care about the level of hypothetical fear you experience on a daily basis, and wish to increase it exponentially.

With our modified Confusotron 6000, we are able to be astoundingly ignorant about a subject while simultaneously making you believe your mentality is at zoo animal levels, which it probably already is.  Don't bother reading the instruction manual for Confusotron 6000, as it would just eat in to your masturbating in Panko while blasting Wagner time.

Once again, we know f*ck-all about any given subject, and take pride in educating you to our level of understanding."
 
2014-03-28 11:18:00 AM  
I'm pleasantly surprised the solution to this isn't somehow "cap on lawsuit damages" like it seems to be for every other issue involving doctors.
 
2014-03-28 11:18:54 AM  

factoryconnection: methinks.


STOP IT.
 
2014-03-28 11:23:38 AM  
A quick Google around shows that ICD-10 compliant systems were being recommended 2-3 three years ago.  If someone still hasn't upgraded their system and started doing validation testing by now, it's their own fault.
 
2014-03-28 11:26:14 AM  

factoryconnection: That other countries have done it successfully and can provide lessons for how to do so smoothly is immaterial... OUR way is the BEST way no matter what.


Why do you hate American Exceptionalism?
 
2014-03-28 11:30:16 AM  
Thanks a lot, Obama
 
2014-03-28 11:34:15 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: Thanks a lot, Obama


Ol' Codebongo...at it again.
 
2014-03-28 11:41:47 AM  

Doctor Funkenstein: Peter von Nostrand: Thanks a lot, Obama

Ol' Codebongo...at it again.


We didn't have any problems before when real Americans were in the white house. WTF is this guy's problem?
 
2014-03-28 11:42:30 AM  

Doctor Funkenstein: FTFA: You won't read about the International Classification of Disease (ICD) on TMZ or hear it discussed on The View, but it has the potential to be an unpleasant October surprise in the health care world.

 
2014-03-28 11:43:41 AM  

bdub77: Doctor Funkenstein: FTFA: You won't read about the International Classification of Disease (ICD) on TMZ or hear it discussed on The View, but it has the potential to be an unpleasant October surprise in the health care world.


Oops:

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2014-03-28 11:44:35 AM  

factoryconnection: Nabb1: I never knew medical billing codes stirred such passion in people.

At least the writer is an MD, so it actually affects his life.  Not really worth the doom-and-gloom predictions, methinks.


Billing departments are a significant operating expense for any healthcare provider, so more onerous procedures can disproportionately affect smaller providers. Insurance and the government (Medicaid and Medicare) all require these codes to be used when submitting requests for payment, and heaven forbid you get it wrong, because it will get kicked back for having the improper code. Ask most doctors about specific codes, and they have little idea about them. Ask most billing clerks about practicing medicine, and they have no idea. But they have to be on the same page for getting paid for services rendered. Obviously, larger facilities accept it as part of the cost of doing business, but I can see how this may cause headaches for smaller providers.
 
2014-03-28 11:45:24 AM  
We're America! We can do anything! Except this thing, which every other first world nation has done, because it's too hard! American exceptionalism, whoo!

The extraordinarily low opinion conservatives have of America, while simultaneously breathlessly extolling the virtues of America, is mind-boggling.
 
2014-03-28 11:46:06 AM  

thamike: "Numbers are confusing to us.  Based on that fact, it goes without saying that more numbers lead to more confusion, which i'm sure you all would agree is a bad thing, because numbers are confusing to you, too.  I won't even get started on letters and words.

See, here at Never Researched Anything Remotely Related to the Topic We Feign Expertise In Laboratories, we care about you, the slabheaded moron.  More specifically, we care about the level of hypothetical fear you experience on a daily basis, and wish to increase it exponentially.

With our modified Confusotron 6000, we are able to be astoundingly ignorant about a subject while simultaneously making you believe your mentality is at zoo animal levels, which it probably already is.  Don't bother reading the instruction manual for Confusotron 6000, as it would just eat in to your masturbating in Panko while blasting Wagner time.

Once again, we know f*ck-all about any given subject, and take pride in educating you to our level of understanding."


This is just beautiful.
 
2014-03-28 11:46:13 AM  
CSB: ICD-9 includes a code for "Bitten by sea-lion", but is limited in other forms of marine mammal attacks...

Work for a big biotech company, with an HIS division.  Got a note asking us to contact our congress-critter to stop this delay.  Now that I know American Stinker is against it, I just might have to.
 
2014-03-28 11:49:06 AM  

factoryconnection: Nabb1: I never knew medical billing codes stirred such passion in people.

At least the writer is an MD, so it actually affects his life.  Not really worth the doom-and-gloom predictions, methinks.


The writer is probably not an MD, he just has an MD.

Expecting a 'doctor' who spends his free time violating the Hippocratic Oath by contributing to the brain damage which is American Thinker to actually see patients is like expecting Rand Paul, Ron Paul, or Ben Carson to actually practice medicine.
 
2014-03-28 11:49:50 AM  

uksocal: CSB: ICD-9 includes a code for "Bitten by sea-lion", but is limited in other forms of marine mammal attacks...

Work for a big biotech company, with an HIS division.  Got a note asking us to contact our congress-critter to stop this delay.  Now that I know American Stinker is against it, I just might have to.


I wonder if this guy knows that code:

now-here-this.timeout.com
 
2014-03-28 11:50:04 AM  

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DON'T YOU KNOW THE DEWEY DECIMAL SYSTEM?

 
2014-03-28 11:50:10 AM  
Y2K fever has morphed into some killer shiat.
 
2014-03-28 11:50:11 AM  

qorkfiend: We're America! We can do anything! Except this thing, which every other first world nation has done, because it's too hard! American exceptionalism, whoo!

The extraordinarily low opinion conservatives have of America, while simultaneously breathlessly extolling the virtues of America, is mind-boggling.


We have, like, Hispanic cheese and stuff.
 
2014-03-28 11:50:26 AM  
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2014-03-28 11:50:44 AM  
Merkin
Stinker
 
2014-03-28 11:50:53 AM  
We're also the only country that uses the ICD-9 (and now ICD-10) to figure out how to pay for procedures, instead of it being used as a descriptor of the malady in question (it's not used for anything other than to give a diagnosis in all the other countries that use the system).
 
2014-03-28 11:51:04 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: Thanks a lot, Obama


Thank you for pointing out this often overlooked provision in ObamaCare.

Him and his damn time machine*.

*adopted in Sweden in 1997.
 
2014-03-28 11:51:10 AM  
Just tell all the doctor to remember to type in up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A Start and it will all be ok.
 
2014-03-28 11:51:15 AM  
But, 'murica has the best heath care in the world!
 
2014-03-28 11:51:41 AM  
Since when do doctors do their own coding?
 
2014-03-28 11:52:01 AM  

uksocal: CSB: ICD-9 includes a code for "Bitten by sea-lion", but is limited in other forms of marine mammal attacks...

Work for a big biotech company, with an HIS division.  Got a note asking us to contact our congress-critter to stop this delay.  Now that I know American Stinker is against it, I just might have to.


narwhal tusk anal lacerations?
 
2014-03-28 11:53:35 AM  
V91.07XD is my new band's name.
 
2014-03-28 11:54:22 AM  
in 2010 I worked a contract in Nashville converting a urgent care clinic chain from a paper system to an EMR system for patient charts/records/coding etc.

The business did in fact lose 3 doctors, who chose to retire rather than bother to learn how to use a computer.
All 3 were in their mid-70's and 2 of them were immigrants for whom English was a second language , and had been getting their assistants to fill out the paper charts for years.
Honestly... while I have no problem with people who want to work on into their 70's...I'm not really going to count 3 doctors in their mid-70's retiring as "the tyranny" of "Obamacare".


/they company made the change to EMR for the massive tax benefit. this made them "profitable" enough that a national chain acquired them.  Then promptly scrapped the EMR system (and 12 months of hard work on our part) and went back to a paper system.
//the elderly doctors remain retired.
 
2014-03-28 11:55:44 AM  

spcMike: Just tell all the doctor to remember to type in up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A Start and it will all be ok.


When I read that post my computer did a flying flip kick at my head.
 
2014-03-28 11:56:06 AM  
This is a much smaller deal than the implementation of HIPAA, mandatory ANSI 4010 transactions, mandatory 5010 transactions, or any of the other slowly adopted, but continuous changes to medical billing standards in this country. Compared to 10 or 12 years ago it's considerably simpler.
 
2014-03-28 11:56:52 AM  
This pisses me off. I work as a data architect in medical data. ICD-10 is a pain, but it's been coming down the pike for a FREAKIN decade. And yes, it's alot more precise, because we all know that generality works well in medicine.
 
2014-03-28 11:56:58 AM  
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