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2014-03-28 08:54:24 AM  
I'm not entirely sure who the jackass is in this particular scenario.

Not to excuse his actions but:

She claims that the road conditions are wet and slick so she doesn't want to speed.  Given the results of speeding and swerving being a crash, she may be correct.

There was apparently enough distance/time for her to get far enough past the car she was passing for him to pass them, cut to the right lane, and then pass her.  Plenty of time for her to get over, let him by, and then move back over to the left lane for her turn.

If it's so dangerous to be on the wet roads, taking care not to wreck.  It should be too dangerous for her to be taking one hand off the wheel and grab her cell phone.  At which point she then finds the app, and aims the phone in his general direction.  Even if she wasn't watching what was being recorded while driving.  That isn't safe driving.  It's damn dangerous.  If the conditions are so bad.

She says on the video and articles that she's made recordings like this before which tells me that she is a passive-aggressive left lane Nazi with AW tendencies.  I'm curious how many other videos she has on YouTube where drivers are being incited to road rage.
 
2014-03-28 08:54:53 AM  
When performing road rage from a truck -it's best to do it at night. That way you can flick on your brights while tailgating.
 
2014-03-28 08:56:50 AM  
Ain't that a biatch.
 
2014-03-28 09:18:21 AM  

BizarreMan: I'm not entirely sure who the jackass is in this particular scenario.

Not to excuse his actions but:

She claims that the road conditions are wet and slick so she doesn't want to speed.  Given the results of speeding and swerving being a crash, she may be correct.

There was apparently enough distance/time for her to get far enough past the car she was passing for him to pass them, cut to the right lane, and then pass her.  Plenty of time for her to get over, let him by, and then move back over to the left lane for her turn.

If it's so dangerous to be on the wet roads, taking care not to wreck.  It should be too dangerous for her to be taking one hand off the wheel and grab her cell phone.  At which point she then finds the app, and aims the phone in his general direction.  Even if she wasn't watching what was being recorded while driving.  That isn't safe driving.  It's damn dangerous.  If the conditions are so bad.

She says on the video and articles that she's made recordings like this before which tells me that she is a passive-aggressive left lane Nazi with AW tendencies.  I'm curious how many other videos she has on YouTube where drivers are being incited to road rage.


Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil but I don't taunt them and do stupid crap like wrecking my car. Then again I drive a SRT8 so blowing them up with that load as hell exhaust is kind of fun.

If LE actually enforced 'slower traffic keep right' we could fix a few traffic problems in tis country.
 
2014-03-28 09:32:52 AM  

sammyk: Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil


I don't think 55+ in a 50 zone is hogging the left lane if you have a turn coming up.
 
2014-03-28 09:38:43 AM  

OregonVet: sammyk: Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil

I don't think 55+ in a 50 zone is hogging the left lane if you have a turn coming up.


I don't either. But please don't pretend that there is not an abundance of self important douche bags that think it's their civic duty to block traffic and set the speed for everyone else.
 
2014-03-28 09:39:50 AM  
Nice looking truck you have there. What are you, eight?

//also, classic mug shot.
 
2014-03-28 09:40:02 AM  

OregonVet: sammyk: Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil

I don't think 55+ in a 50 zone is hogging the left lane if you have a turn coming up.


No, no, no. This is Fark. If you're driving in the left lane, it doesn't matter how fast you're going. If the car behind you wants to go faster, that's your problem, and you'd better let them pass you or you're wrong.

Also, someone in the right lane going exactly the speed limit is a hazard to everyone else on the road. I've been told this many, many times.
 
2014-03-28 09:40:34 AM  

BizarreMan: I'm not entirely sure who the jackass is in this particular scenario.

Not to excuse his actions but:

She claims that the road conditions are wet and slick so she doesn't want to speed.  Given the results of speeding and swerving being a crash, she may be correct.

There was apparently enough distance/time for her to get far enough past the car she was passing for him to pass them, cut to the right lane, and then pass her.  Plenty of time for her to get over, let him by, and then move back over to the left lane for her turn.

If it's so dangerous to be on the wet roads, taking care not to wreck.  It should be too dangerous for her to be taking one hand off the wheel and grab her cell phone.  At which point she then finds the app, and aims the phone in his general direction.  Even if she wasn't watching what was being recorded while driving.  That isn't safe driving.  It's damn dangerous.  If the conditions are so bad.

She says on the video and articles that she's made recordings like this before which tells me that she is a passive-aggressive left lane Nazi with AW tendencies.  I'm curious how many other videos she has on YouTube where drivers are being incited to road rage.


Yeah, guy drove like a dumbass and paid for it, but that women needs her ass kicked.
 
2014-03-28 09:42:38 AM  
I'm on the fence with this one so I took out the AW tendencies of her, her propensity to endanger others with her vertical video stupidity while driving and the fact she was pretty much hogging the lane and I am left with this: Unless we're missing something he is in the wrong. Feelings don't matter, the 'coulda/shoulda/woulda' actions mean nothing. If the law specifies she did nothing wrong that's that.

As much as I hate left lane hogs Bubba McRedneck passed her on the right, forgot about the physics of a vehicle with an automatic transmission, a vehicle with excellent engine braking and discovered what happens .When you suddenly decelerate from a moderate speed in a lower gear on a slick road. Couple that with the empty bed and he looped it, very well I might add.

Now it would have been funny if he's spun out and caused her to wreck as well. That would have been the old 2 birds with one stone idea.
 
2014-03-28 09:44:01 AM  

sammyk: OregonVet: sammyk: Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil

I don't think 55+ in a 50 zone is hogging the left lane if you have a turn coming up.

I don't either. But please don't pretend that there is not an abundance of self important douche bags that think it's their civic duty to block traffic and set the speed for everyone else.


IRONY ALERT IRONY ALERT
 
2014-03-28 09:44:01 AM  
She should be cited, too, having all sorts of crap hanging from her rear view mirror.  Asswipes all around.
 
2014-03-28 09:44:58 AM  
Because taking video while you're illegally in the left lane absolves her of all blame (if you're not passing you're impeding). fark this biatch.


sammyk: OregonVet: sammyk: Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil

I don't think 55+ in a 50 zone is hogging the left lane if you have a turn coming up.

I don't either. But please don't pretend that there is not an abundance of self important douche bags that think it's their civic duty to block traffic and set the speed for everyone else.



And this. Lots of passive aggressive narcissistic assholes out there that feel it's their duty to slow down anyone that is going faster then they are. As the video proves, this creates just as much road rage as the speeding dickhead.

/Aggressive driver, but moves to the right for faster cars.
 
2014-03-28 09:45:33 AM  
Nothing is worse than those jackasses that won't yield to the right, especially on the highway. I find that they tend to be from New York or New Jersey.

On a 3 lane highway, you shouldn't be going UNDER the speed limit in the extreme left lane, forcing everyone to pass you on the right. I have a pretty hefty commute and see this all the time.
 
2014-03-28 09:45:57 AM  
Roads with intersections every few hundred yards don't have fast lanes.  I'm not going to weave in and out of traffic to make my turn just so you can drive a couple miles and hour faster than me.  Even if you are a big tough guy in a truck.
 
2014-03-28 09:47:43 AM  

OregonVet: sammyk: Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil

I don't think 55+ in a 50 zone is hogging the left lane if you have a turn coming up.


Coming up meaning the next 1/4 mile or sometime eventually in the next 5 miles I will have to turn left so I will just stay in the left lane until then no matter what?

Before all of the self righteous blow hards arrive to proclaim that they are doing the speed limit so they don't have to move, I would like to provide the following link.  http://www.fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2006/022006/02092006/166829   In this link there is a statement from the Virginia State Police.  "Leave it up to police officers to deal with any violations they might be committing. We'll handle that," he said. "But the law still requires you to move to the right and let them pass."

That means that unless you are a LEO, you don't get to decide to enforce the law.  No!  Not yours!  3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-28 09:47:50 AM  

Enormous-Schwanstucker: I'm on the fence with this one so I took out the AW tendencies of her, her propensity to endanger others with her vertical video stupidity while driving and the fact she was pretty much hogging the lane and I am left with this: Unless we're missing something he is in the wrong. Feelings don't matter, the 'coulda/shoulda/woulda' actions mean nothing. If the law specifies she did nothing wrong that's that.

As much as I hate left lane hogs Bubba McRedneck passed her on the right, forgot about the physics of a vehicle with an automatic transmission, a vehicle with excellent engine braking and discovered what happens .When you suddenly decelerate from a moderate speed in a lower gear on a slick road. Couple that with the empty bed and he looped it, very well I might add.

Now it would have been funny if he's spun out and caused her to wreck as well. That would have been the old 2 birds with one stone idea.


To clarify a common misconception:

Passing on the right is legal so long as the road is 2+ lanes in the direction of travel.

Passing on the right laws should be called passing on the shoulder laws.
 
2014-03-28 09:48:02 AM  
There's no one to root for here.
 
2014-03-28 09:48:06 AM  

noitsnot: sammyk: OregonVet: sammyk: Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil

I don't think 55+ in a 50 zone is hogging the left lane if you have a turn coming up.

I don't either. But please don't pretend that there is not an abundance of self important douche bags that think it's their civic duty to block traffic and set the speed for everyone else.

IRONY ALERT IRONY ALERT


LOL!
 
2014-03-28 09:48:27 AM  

BizarreMan: I'm not entirely sure who the jackass is in this particular scenario.

Not to excuse his actions but:

She claims that the road conditions are wet and slick so she doesn't want to speed.  Given the results of speeding and swerving being a crash, she may be correct.

There was apparently enough distance/time for her to get far enough past the car she was passing for him to pass them, cut to the right lane, and then pass her.  Plenty of time for her to get over, let him by, and then move back over to the left lane for her turn.

If it's so dangerous to be on the wet roads, taking care not to wreck.  It should be too dangerous for her to be taking one hand off the wheel and grab her cell phone.  At which point she then finds the app, and aims the phone in his general direction.  Even if she wasn't watching what was being recorded while driving.  That isn't safe driving.  It's damn dangerous.  If the conditions are so bad.

She says on the video and articles that she's made recordings like this before which tells me that she is a passive-aggressive left lane Nazi with AW tendencies.  I'm curious how many other videos she has on YouTube where drivers are being incited to road rage.


For those who missed it, there is no "passing lane" on this road.  She was planning on making a left turn so getting over into the right lane would not have been the proper move.

Also happy to see a road-raging, tailgating douche get what's coming to him, and glad he didn't hit other vehicles in the process.
 
2014-03-28 09:48:33 AM  
sammyk: I don't either.Good, because another story on the news this morning showed the part where she pointed the camera at her dash proving it.

But please don't pretend that there is not an abundance of self important douche bags that think it's their civic duty to block traffic and set the speed for everyone else.

Sure there is. But this isn't relevant here.
 
2014-03-28 09:50:14 AM  
I enjoyed the video.  It's proof that when I see two assholes going at it on the road, I should keep my distance.
 
2014-03-28 09:50:26 AM  
Let's see.

Self-righteous.
Misogynistic.
Fantasies of violent retribution.

This must be Fark!
 
2014-03-28 09:50:30 AM  
...

...

really?

no one is going to say it?

...

REALLY?   OFFS.   I'll do it.


I would bang the ever living ching chong ching chong ching chong crap outta WTPS Night beat reporter Dion Lim!

/Thanks for making it alright for me to say that Stephen!
 
2014-03-28 09:52:09 AM  
Also, shouldn't she also get a ticket for using her damn phone while driving?
 
2014-03-28 09:53:06 AM  

Gonz: No, no, no. This is Fark. If you're driving in the left lane, it doesn't matter how fast you're going. If the car behind you wants to go faster, that's your problem, and you'd better let them pass you or you're wrong breaking the farking law.


FTFY, you farking idiot.
 
2014-03-28 09:54:03 AM  
As is so often the case when stories make it to Fark, there is no one here who isn't a stupid idiot. Ragey Mc Tantrumpants and Miss ICanUseMyPhoneAndDriveCauseImGettingEVIDENCEofBADDRIVING both suck at driving.

Story would've been better had she also wrecked due to distracted driving. Or had she shown the video to the police and been given a big fat ticket for phone usage.

No injuries of course.
 
2014-03-28 09:54:15 AM  

Thingster: Passing on the right laws should be called passing on the shoulder laws.


Not around here.
The driver of a vehicle may overtake and pass another vehicle on the right only under conditions permitting such movement in safety. Except where driving on paved shoulders is permitted by lawfully placed signs, no such movement shall be made by driving on the shoulder of the highway or off the pavement or main traveled portion of the roadway.
 
2014-03-28 09:55:19 AM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-28 09:55:20 AM  

Gonz: OregonVet: sammyk: Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil

I don't think 55+ in a 50 zone is hogging the left lane if you have a turn coming up.

No, no, no. This is Fark. If you're driving in the left lane, it doesn't matter how fast you're going. If the car behind you wants to go faster, that's your problem, and you'd better let them pass you or you're wrong.

Also, someone in the right lane going exactly the speed limit is a hazard to everyone else on the road. I've been told this many, many times.


Since the law is to yield to faster traffic in most states, you have to be a special kind of stupid to do what the driver behind the camera does.
 
2014-03-28 09:55:42 AM  

NicktheSmoker: Also, shouldn't she also get a ticket for using her damn phone while driving?


I picked out three tickets: speeding (not enough to bother with a stop tho), distracted driving (phone), and all that shiat in the windshield.
 
2014-03-28 09:56:19 AM  

for good or for awesome: Roads with intersections every few hundred yards don't have fast lanes.  I'm not going to weave in and out of traffic to make my turn just so you can drive a couple miles and hour faster than me.  Even if you are a big tough guy in a truck.


This.

/Also glad idiot only took out some signs and did some minor damage to his vehicle.
 
2014-03-28 09:56:27 AM  
Yeah, guy drove like a dumbass and paid for it, but that women needs her ass kicked.

Did you see the women? She's suffered enough.
 
2014-03-28 09:56:47 AM  
When I'm stuck behind some idiot clogging the slow lane, that is exactly how I picture the driver of the car in front of me.
 
2014-03-28 09:58:48 AM  

Dog Welder: BizarreMan: I'm not entirely sure who the jackass is in this particular scenario.

Not to excuse his actions but:

She claims that the road conditions are wet and slick so she doesn't want to speed.  Given the results of speeding and swerving being a crash, she may be correct.

There was apparently enough distance/time for her to get far enough past the car she was passing for him to pass them, cut to the right lane, and then pass her.  Plenty of time for her to get over, let him by, and then move back over to the left lane for her turn.

If it's so dangerous to be on the wet roads, taking care not to wreck.  It should be too dangerous for her to be taking one hand off the wheel and grab her cell phone.  At which point she then finds the app, and aims the phone in his general direction.  Even if she wasn't watching what was being recorded while driving.  That isn't safe driving.  It's damn dangerous.  If the conditions are so bad.

She says on the video and articles that she's made recordings like this before which tells me that she is a passive-aggressive left lane Nazi with AW tendencies.  I'm curious how many other videos she has on YouTube where drivers are being incited to road rage.

For those who missed it, there is no "passing lane" on this road.  She was planning on making a left turn so getting over into the right lane would not have been the proper move.

Also happy to see a road-raging, tailgating douche get what's coming to him, and glad he didn't hit other vehicles in the process.


The basic rules of the road state that you stay to the right at all times unless you are passing or turning. The same thing goes for walking, running, biking, etc.
 
2014-03-28 09:59:01 AM  

Smoky Dragon Dish: I enjoyed the video.  It's proof that when I see two assholes going at it on the road, I should keep my distance.


I'm with you. They were both in the wrong here in their own way.
 
2014-03-28 09:59:09 AM  

BizarreMan: I'm not entirely sure who the jackass is in this particular scenario.


Gotta go with the guy that wrecked his car. He had no where important to be anyway.
 
2014-03-28 09:59:27 AM  
OregonVet: and all that shiat in the windshield.

thumbs.newschoolers.com

Dangerous & Inconvenient
 
2014-03-28 09:59:45 AM  

duffblue: Since the law is to yield to faster traffic in most states, you have to be a special kind of stupid to do what the driver behind the camera does.


They aren't on the freeway, they're in town in a reduced speed zone  (50)... IANAL, but I don't think that law applies there.
 
2014-03-28 09:59:53 AM  
He is obviously a Johnny Cash fan...

www.gannett-cdn.com

www.silberstudios.tv
 
2014-03-28 10:00:19 AM  
If you're in that much of a goddamn rush to get where you're headed, leave five minutes earlier.  There are going to be other cars on the road and you can't read the minds of those drivers.  Some of them are going to be annoying to you because they are searching for a location or they are distracted or they are stupid.  Get over it, and know that your sense of driving skill superiority is thoroughly voided when you drive like a jackass in retaliation.
 
2014-03-28 10:00:36 AM  
For the follow up article, we'll read how this woman tragically died to the next crazy person she deliberately pisses off.  It won't be justice or anything, but just don't mess with crazy people, it's not worth it.
 
2014-03-28 10:00:52 AM  

OregonVet: NicktheSmoker: Also, shouldn't she also get a ticket for using her damn phone while driving?

I picked out three tickets: speeding (not enough to bother with a stop tho), distracted driving (phone), and all that shiat in the windshield.


Failure to pay full time and attention since she is more concerned with videoing the guy driving behind/beside her and then being sure to record him crashed.

I wonder if Fl. can issue her a ticket NOW for distracted driving since it is BLATANT that she is using a cell to record video while moving.  There is NO ambiguity about whether or not she was recording.  If recording of a police officer can be used as evidence, shouldn't this count against her?
 
2014-03-28 10:00:55 AM  

Enormous-Schwanstucker: Now it would have been funny if he's spun out and caused her to wreck as well. That would have been the old 2 birds with one stone idea.


i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-28 10:01:00 AM  

BizarreMan: I'm not entirely sure who the jackass is in this particular scenario.

Not to excuse his actions but:

She claims that the road conditions are wet and slick so she doesn't want to speed.  Given the results of speeding and swerving being a crash, she may be correct.

There was apparently enough distance/time for her to get far enough past the car she was passing for him to pass them, cut to the right lane, and then pass her.  Plenty of time for her to get over, let him by, and then move back over to the left lane for her turn.

If it's so dangerous to be on the wet roads, taking care not to wreck.  It should be too dangerous for her to be taking one hand off the wheel and grab her cell phone.  At which point she then finds the app, and aims the phone in his general direction.  Even if she wasn't watching what was being recorded while driving.  That isn't safe driving.  It's damn dangerous.  If the conditions are so bad.

She says on the video and articles that she's made recordings like this before which tells me that she is a passive-aggressive left lane Nazi with AW tendencies.  I'm curious how many other videos she has on YouTube where drivers are being incited to road rage.


Glad someone said it. OTOH, the guy got what he deserved, too.
 
2014-03-28 10:01:13 AM  

Dog Welder: For those who missed it, there is no "passing lane" on this road.  She was planning on making a left turn so getting over into the right lane would not have been the proper move.

Also happy to see a road-raging, tailgating douche get what's coming to him, and glad he didn't hit other vehicles in the process.


I second this.  It is simply a four lane road, not an interstate.  There is a five lane road that I take to work that if I'm not in the lane I need 1.5 miles away from my turn, I'm not making my turn.  And I still get people riding my butt when I'm already stuck behind someone else.  I hope he stands as an example to others that if you don't have patience, you don't have license.

/I do wonder what this guy's Fark handle is though
 
2014-03-28 10:01:39 AM  

adragontattoo: Thingster: Passing on the right laws should be called passing on the shoulder laws.

Not around here.
The driver of a vehicle may overtake and pass another vehicle on the right only under conditions permitting such movement in safety. Except where driving on paved shoulders is permitted by lawfully placed signs, no such movement shall be made by driving on the shoulder of the highway or off the pavement or main traveled portion of the roadway.


How is what you wrote inconsistent with what I wrote?

Passing on the right is legal if it's a travel way, it's illegal if it's a shoulder absent extenuating circumstances.
 
2014-03-28 10:01:45 AM  
I'm not familiar with this stretch of road, but it doesn't even look like a limited access highway where all the "slower traffic keep right" stuff comes into play. People make left turns on these roads (unless you're in New Jersey of course) so the left lane is for everyone's use.
 
2014-03-28 10:02:41 AM  

Cold_Sassy: noitsnot: sammyk: OregonVet: sammyk: Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil

I don't think 55+ in a 50 zone is hogging the left lane if you have a turn coming up.

I don't either. But please don't pretend that there is not an abundance of self important douche bags that think it's their civic duty to block traffic and set the speed for everyone else.

IRONY ALERT IRONY ALERT

LOL!


Yep, that is pretty funny. At least i'm not so self important that I can't laugh at myself :)

Well played noitsnot
 
2014-03-28 10:04:05 AM  
He fixes the cable?

/You should all be ashamed it took this long and I had to say it.
 
2014-03-28 10:04:34 AM  

OregonVet: duffblue: Since the law is to yield to faster traffic in most states, you have to be a special kind of stupid to do what the driver behind the camera does.

They aren't on the freeway, they're in town in a reduced speed zone  (50)... IANAL, but I don't think that law applies there.


It applies to all roads with more than one lane in both directions, and there are turning lanes on this road
 
2014-03-28 10:05:59 AM  
This man is a chump.
I'm glad he wrecked his little truck.
He needs more patience.
 
2014-03-28 10:07:14 AM  
Jackass gets all road ragey, shoots a woman the bird, cuts her off.

Worst episode of Jackass ever.
 
2014-03-28 10:08:00 AM  

adragontattoo: OregonVet: NicktheSmoker: Also, shouldn't she also get a ticket for using her damn phone while driving?

I picked out three tickets: speeding (not enough to bother with a stop tho), distracted driving (phone), and all that shiat in the windshield.

Failure to pay full time and attention since she is more concerned with videoing the guy driving behind/beside her and then being sure to record him crashed.

I wonder if Fl. can issue her a ticket NOW for distracted driving since it is BLATANT that she is using a cell to record video while moving.  There is NO ambiguity about whether or not she was recording.  If recording of a police officer can be used as evidence, shouldn't this count against her?


You wouldn't have a tender conscience, would you?
 
2014-03-28 10:08:00 AM  

OregonVet: sammyk: I don't either.Good, because another story on the news this morning showed the part where she pointed the camera at her dash proving it.

But please don't pretend that there is not an abundance of self important douche bags that think it's their civic duty to block traffic and set the speed for everyone else.

Sure there is. But this isn't relevant here.


Yes it is. She was impeding traffic in the left lane causing a potentially dangerous situation. She made it worse being a dumbass with her cell phone. it could be argued that she created a dangerous situation that contributed to the dumbass in the truck getting into an accident. So there's plenty of dumbass to go around in this case.
 
2014-03-28 10:08:51 AM  
How someone wipes out that badly all by himself is beyond me. I bet that doesn't even happen in China.
 
2014-03-28 10:09:06 AM  

RedfordRenegade: This man is a chump.
I'm glad he wrecked his little truck.
He needs more patience.


nice
 
2014-03-28 10:09:45 AM  

Thingster: Enormous-Schwanstucker: I'm on the fence with this one so I took out the AW tendencies of her, her propensity to endanger others with her vertical video stupidity while driving and the fact she was pretty much hogging the lane and I am left with this: Unless we're missing something he is in the wrong. Feelings don't matter, the 'coulda/shoulda/woulda' actions mean nothing. If the law specifies she did nothing wrong that's that.

As much as I hate left lane hogs Bubba McRedneck passed her on the right, forgot about the physics of a vehicle with an automatic transmission, a vehicle with excellent engine braking and discovered what happens .When you suddenly decelerate from a moderate speed in a lower gear on a slick road. Couple that with the empty bed and he looped it, very well I might add.

Now it would have been funny if he's spun out and caused her to wreck as well. That would have been the old 2 birds with one stone idea.

To clarify a common misconception:

Passing on the right is legal so long as the road is 2+ lanes in the direction of travel.

Passing on the right laws should be called passing on the shoulder laws.


I didn't debate that point. In Va, where I live, it is legal to pass on the right as long with 2 or more lanes and unfortunately I have to do it almost every day. My beef was with Bubba not containing his `neckrage and going off the rails...literally. I am also an aggressive driver but the 2 most important things in my life, my wife and daughter and getting older (wiser too?), has taught me it just isn't worth the anger, period. I did the 50+ mile one way commutes up to I-66 and the Fairfax/Reson areas for 16 years. I'm familiar with all forms of stupidity people exhibit behind the wheel.
 
2014-03-28 10:10:28 AM  

sammyk: it could be argued that she created a dangerous situation that contributed to the dumbass in the truck getting into an accident


Only by a complete and utter idiot. He wiped out because of his own ineptitude. She MAY have been an ass, but she did not cause his crash in any way, shape, or form.
 
2014-03-28 10:12:08 AM  

for good or for awesome: Roads with intersections every few hundred yards don't have fast lanes.  I'm not going to weave in and out of traffic to make my turn just so you can drive a couple miles and hour faster than me.  Even if you are a big tough guy in a truck.


You could like try to be courteous in situations like that. it could even be argued that common sense says letting the dickheaded big tough truck guy go on past you actually makes YOU safer. But nah, kick the anthill. I'm sure you get something out of it.
 
2014-03-28 10:13:11 AM  

sammyk: OregonVet: sammyk: I don't either.Good, because another story on the news this morning showed the part where she pointed the camera at her dash proving it.

But please don't pretend that there is not an abundance of self important douche bags that think it's their civic duty to block traffic and set the speed for everyone else.

Sure there is. But this isn't relevant here.

Yes it is. She was impeding traffic in the left lane causing a potentially dangerous situation. She made it worse being a dumbass with her cell phone. it could be argued that she created a dangerous situation that contributed to the dumbass in the truck getting into an accident. So there's plenty of dumbass to go around in this case.


She wasn't impeding traffic and she didn't cause him to tailgate or to later unskillfully cut her off.
 
2014-03-28 10:13:56 AM  

sammyk: for good or for awesome: Roads with intersections every few hundred yards don't have fast lanes.  I'm not going to weave in and out of traffic to make my turn just so you can drive a couple miles and hour faster than me.  Even if you are a big tough guy in a truck.

You could like try to be courteous in situations like that. it could even be argued that common sense says letting the dickheaded big tough truck guy go on past you actually makes YOU safer. But nah, kick the anthill. I'm sure you get something out of it.


No. There is no expectation of lane usage nor are there laws about staying to the right on roads like that. Making up rules in your head will only end up with your pickup truck sliding backwards into oncoming traffic.
 
2014-03-28 10:16:13 AM  

BizarreMan: I'm not entirely sure who the jackass is in this particular scenario.

Not to excuse his actions but:

She claims that the road conditions are wet and slick so she doesn't want to speed.  Given the results of speeding and swerving being a crash, she may be correct.

There was apparently enough distance/time for her to get far enough past the car she was passing for him to pass them, cut to the right lane, and then pass her.  Plenty of time for her to get over, let him by, and then move back over to the left lane for her turn.

If it's so dangerous to be on the wet roads, taking care not to wreck.  It should be too dangerous for her to be taking one hand off the wheel and grab her cell phone.  At which point she then finds the app, and aims the phone in his general direction.  Even if she wasn't watching what was being recorded while driving.  That isn't safe driving.  It's damn dangerous.  If the conditions are so bad.

She says on the video and articles that she's made recordings like this before which tells me that she is a passive-aggressive left lane Nazi with AW tendencies.  I'm curious how many other videos she has on YouTube where drivers are being incited to road rage.


You aren't wrong and I was thinking much the same thing, BUT none of the above is dangerous in and of itself. The guy in the truck should have just passed her and moved on. Intimidating someone in your giant penis compensator is a far worse offense in my mind then what this woman did.
 
2014-03-28 10:17:21 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-03-28 10:18:02 AM  

yakmans_dad: adragontattoo: OregonVet: NicktheSmoker: Also, shouldn't she also get a ticket for using her damn phone while driving?

I picked out three tickets: speeding (not enough to bother with a stop tho), distracted driving (phone), and all that shiat in the windshield.

Failure to pay full time and attention since she is more concerned with videoing the guy driving behind/beside her and then being sure to record him crashed.

I wonder if Fl. can issue her a ticket NOW for distracted driving since it is BLATANT that she is using a cell to record video while moving.  There is NO ambiguity about whether or not she was recording.  If recording of a police officer can be used as evidence, shouldn't this count against her?

You wouldn't have a tender conscience, would you?


Nope, why should I?  I have no sympathy for either jackhole in the story.  I only hope that while she concentrates on recording the next jackass, she drives into a canal.
 
2014-03-28 10:18:20 AM  

MLWS: BizarreMan: I'm not entirely sure who the jackass is in this particular scenario.

Not to excuse his actions but:

She claims that the road conditions are wet and slick so she doesn't want to speed.  Given the results of speeding and swerving being a crash, she may be correct.

There was apparently enough distance/time for her to get far enough past the car she was passing for him to pass them, cut to the right lane, and then pass her.  Plenty of time for her to get over, let him by, and then move back over to the left lane for her turn.

If it's so dangerous to be on the wet roads, taking care not to wreck.  It should be too dangerous for her to be taking one hand off the wheel and grab her cell phone.  At which point she then finds the app, and aims the phone in his general direction.  Even if she wasn't watching what was being recorded while driving.  That isn't safe driving.  It's damn dangerous.  If the conditions are so bad.

She says on the video and articles that she's made recordings like this before which tells me that she is a passive-aggressive left lane Nazi with AW tendencies.  I'm curious how many other videos she has on YouTube where drivers are being incited to road rage.

You aren't wrong and I was thinking much the same thing, BUT none of the above is dangerous in and of itself. The guy in the truck should have just passed her and moved on. Intimidating someone in your giant penis compensator is a far worse offense in my mind then what this woman did.


If this was in the first couple of posts we could have avoided this whole thread.
 
2014-03-28 10:18:46 AM  
A lot of road ragers in this thread.
 
2014-03-28 10:19:51 AM  
Drivers of BMWs and full-sized pickups: biggest assholes in the world.

/FSM help us if BMW ever makes a pickup
 
2014-03-28 10:21:04 AM  

whatsupchuck: If you're in that much of a goddamn rush to get where you're headed, leave five minutes earlier.  There are going to be other cars on the road and you can't read the minds of those drivers.  Some of them are going to be annoying to you because they are searching for a location or they are distracted or they are stupid.  Get over it, and know that your sense of driving skill superiority is thoroughly voided when you drive like a jackass in retaliation.


Buried the needle on my "truth-o-meter."
 
2014-03-28 10:21:46 AM  
I wonder why everyone is in such a farking hurry to get to the next red light.
 
Bf+
2014-03-28 10:22:42 AM  
A lot of uninformed hate in here.
Left lane loafer doesn't apply in this case:  It wasn't a freeway and she was in the lane to make a left turn.
 
2014-03-28 10:22:50 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: I wonder why everyone is in such a farking hurry to get to the next red light.


I know your commute :)
 
2014-03-28 10:23:04 AM  

R.A.Danny: sammyk: it could be argued that she created a dangerous situation that contributed to the dumbass in the truck getting into an accident

Only by a complete and utter idiot. He wiped out because of his own ineptitude. She MAY have been an ass, but she did not cause his crash in any way, shape, or form.


Very much this.

I passed a city bus, made a safe complete stop at the next light, but the bus failed to slow and slid on the ice taking out a tree.  I may be viewed as being reckless because I was going faster than the bus and passing it, but I didn't cause him to not slow down to make a safe stop.  He hit that tree all by himself.  Sure scared me, I was 6' to the side of that tree when he hit it.  I was able to look over at the driver as he hit the tree.  And I did not pass him at the last possible second, I was stopped at the light for several seconds before looking in my rearview to see him coming at me too fast and start thinking, "Oh please stop, I beg you to please stop."
 
2014-03-28 10:26:13 AM  

blatz514: Enormous-Schwanstucker: Now it would have been funny if he's spun out and caused her to wreck as well. That would have been the old 2 birds with one stone idea.

[i.imgur.com image 350x263]


Or the why not both Taco meme....

Works for me :)
 
2014-03-28 10:26:56 AM  

R.A.Danny: I know your commute :)


Well played Dan-O!
 
2014-03-28 10:27:27 AM  
Both of them are shiatty drivers.  But then again, this is Florida.
 
2014-03-28 10:29:13 AM  
Always amusing to see the Righteous Internet Tough Drivers scream about drivers who hover in the left lane, when tailgating is also illegal, and dumber and statistically more dangerous than hovering in the left lane.

Just because a driver is being stupid in front of you, doesn't mean you should be stupid behind him or her in response.
 
2014-03-28 10:29:14 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: I wonder why everyone is in such a farking hurry to get to the next red light.


I always laugh when I am in town and someone hauls ass as soon as the light turns green.  I always make sure to applaud and congratulate them on winning the race to the red light.  I then profusely apologize for taking so long to arrive.  Best so far was the guy who "raced" me to 5 consecutive red lights.  I was very ashamed that I managed to lose to him so many times.  The cops even pulled him over to congratulate him (I assume that is why they pulled a U-turn and started up their disco lights.)
 
2014-03-28 10:29:48 AM  
Sorry, but if I were her, I would have STOPPED, honked and waved at the guy.
 
2014-03-28 10:30:22 AM  

adragontattoo: Dancin_In_Anson: I wonder why everyone is in such a farking hurry to get to the next red light.

I always laugh when I am in town and someone hauls ass as soon as the light turns green.  I always make sure to applaud and congratulate them on winning the race to the red light.  I then profusely apologize for taking so long to arrive.  Best so far was the guy who "raced" me to 5 consecutive red lights.  I was very ashamed that I managed to lose to him so many times.  The cops even pulled him over to congratulate him (I assume that is why they pulled a U-turn and started up their disco lights.)


I just want to make one. Just ONE.
 
2014-03-28 10:30:47 AM  
Never mind how fast the person behind you is wanting to go. If you're not in the rightmost lane and you aren't at least pacing the car directly in the same lane in front of you, then you're "slower traffic" and you really should "move right" as the proverbial sign says.
 
2014-03-28 10:32:31 AM  

adragontattoo: Dancin_In_Anson: I wonder why everyone is in such a farking hurry to get to the next red light.

I always laugh when I am in town and someone hauls ass as soon as the light turns green.  I always make sure to applaud and congratulate them on winning the race to the red light.  I then profusely apologize for taking so long to arrive.  Best so far was the guy who "raced" me to 5 consecutive red lights.  I was very ashamed that I managed to lose to him so many times.  The cops even pulled him over to congratulate him (I assume that is why they pulled a U-turn and started up their disco lights.)


And I thought the lights in northern Virginia were awfully timed. Where is this hell-hole that you live that has red lights that one can catch 5 consecutive without hitting a green?
 
2014-03-28 10:33:27 AM  
Oh lordy I love the amount of projection in this thread.  So many rootin' tootin' urban cowboys in their Ford F450's seeing their hero ditch his motorized penis trying to pass the blame for his moronic actions on to a woman in a minivan obeying the rules of the road.

Other than her filming a guy threatening her in his oversized pickup, she's doing everything else properly, including staying the course when faced with an aggressive driver.

That's what you get, cowboys.  You aren't traffic heroes for tailgating.
 
2014-03-28 10:34:49 AM  

SurfaceTension: Never mind how fast the person behind you is wanting to go. If you're not in the rightmost lane and you aren't at least pacing the car directly in the same lane in front of you, then you're "slower traffic" and you really should "move right" as the proverbial sign says.


You must live in a jug handle state.
 
2014-03-28 10:36:29 AM  
Btw, can anyone explain why people who are shiatty drivers get so mad when I give them a thumbs down?  I must have missed the memo about how thumbs down is more offensive than any other possible gesture.  It is almost comical how mad some people will get.
 
2014-03-28 10:36:45 AM  
This. This is the reason "Slower traffic keep right" laws exist, and when they don't, you should consider it a rule of the road anyway. Sure, they guy was a dick, but that absolutely would not have happened if you had simply gotten over to the right. Don't want to speed up because of some BS "it's a rainy day" excuse (by the way, that might be a better sell if your wipers were on, your window wasn't rolled down and we couldn't see that it wasn't raining)? Fine, then drop back and get to the right. Oh, and driving one handed while you try to video the guy and stopping in a travel lane to get out and continue recording him *totally* sells you as the Patron Saint of Safe Driving, by the way.

OregonVet: I don't think 55+ in a 50 zone is hogging the left lane if you have a turn coming up.


She was going less than 50 (fast forward to the 37 second mark). Besides that, I can't find any reference to the posted speed limit in either the original vid or this newscast.
 
2014-03-28 10:37:17 AM  
speaking of jackass drivers and physics, this classic came to mind.
 
2014-03-28 10:37:59 AM  

Gecko Gingrich: Sure, they guy was a dick, but that absolutely would not have happened if you had simply gotten over to the right.


She wouldn't have gotten raped if she wasn't wearing that short skirt either.
 
2014-03-28 10:38:00 AM  

duffblue: OregonVet: duffblue: Since the law is to yield to faster traffic in most states, you have to be a special kind of stupid to do what the driver behind the camera does.

They aren't on the freeway, they're in town in a reduced speed zone  (50)... IANAL, but I don't think that law applies there.

It applies to all roads with more than one lane in both directions, and there are turning lanes on this road

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-03-28 10:38:49 AM  

SurfaceTension: adragontattoo: Dancin_In_Anson: I wonder why everyone is in such a farking hurry to get to the next red light.

I always laugh when I am in town and someone hauls ass as soon as the light turns green.  I always make sure to applaud and congratulate them on winning the race to the red light.  I then profusely apologize for taking so long to arrive.  Best so far was the guy who "raced" me to 5 consecutive red lights.  I was very ashamed that I managed to lose to him so many times.  The cops even pulled him over to congratulate him (I assume that is why they pulled a U-turn and started up their disco lights.)

And I thought the lights in northern Virginia were awfully timed. Where is this hell-hole that you live that has red lights that one can catch 5 consecutive without hitting a green?


Winchester.  I used to have similar happen when I lived in Alexandria and drove down Duke St or King...
 
2014-03-28 10:39:31 AM  

RedfordRenegade: This man is a chump.
I'm glad he wrecked his little truck.
He needs more patience.


Yep. I laughed and laughed.

First he wrecks his truck, then he leaves the scene of an accident and gets himself arrested, not for the first time.  Then he gets laughed at by everyone on the internet.

Does it surprise anyone that this 'anger management class on wheels' had priors?  Shocking, I know.

/That boy has no business driving, something the court will see to directly.
 
2014-03-28 10:40:17 AM  

OregonVet: duffblue: OregonVet: duffblue: Since the law is to yield to faster traffic in most states, you have to be a special kind of stupid to do what the driver behind the camera does.

They aren't on the freeway, they're in town in a reduced speed zone  (50)... IANAL, but I don't think that law applies there.

It applies to all roads with more than one lane in both directions, and there are turning lanes on this road
[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x637]


Want Va. code or are you only asking for Fla.?
 
2014-03-28 10:40:17 AM  

Saborlas: A lot of road ragers in this thread.


Indeed. It's my guess that truck boy zooming right up on her bumper before she could change lanes, even if she wanted to, may have precipitated the action on the video. I find that sort of thing a bit rankling myself.
 
2014-03-28 10:40:28 AM  

Gecko Gingrich: Don't want to speed up because of some BS "it's a rainy day" excuse (by the way, that might be a better sell if your wipers were on, your window wasn't rolled down and we couldn't see that it wasn't raining)?


Rain was probably the reason Hillbilly McRagefailure found his tires weren't quite under him when he needed them to be.
 
2014-03-28 10:40:44 AM  

OregonVet: duffblue: OregonVet: duffblue: Since the law is to yield to faster traffic in most states, you have to be a special kind of stupid to do what the driver behind the camera does.

They aren't on the freeway, they're in town in a reduced speed zone  (50)... IANAL, but I don't think that law applies there.

It applies to all roads with more than one lane in both directions, and there are turning lanes on this road
[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x637]


Yeah, duffblue has no clue.
 
2014-03-28 10:41:01 AM  

SurfaceTension: adragontattoo: Dancin_In_Anson: I wonder why everyone is in such a farking hurry to get to the next red light.

I always laugh when I am in town and someone hauls ass as soon as the light turns green.  I always make sure to applaud and congratulate them on winning the race to the red light.  I then profusely apologize for taking so long to arrive.  Best so far was the guy who "raced" me to 5 consecutive red lights.  I was very ashamed that I managed to lose to him so many times.  The cops even pulled him over to congratulate him (I assume that is why they pulled a U-turn and started up their disco lights.)

And I thought the lights in northern Virginia were awfully timed. Where is this hell-hole that you live that has red lights that one can catch 5 consecutive without hitting a green?


Aren't they timed so that, if you go the speed limit in the city, you can catch them as they are turning green?

Sometimes referred as a green wave.

She had ample opportunity to pull over and let him pass, he was an idiot for tailgating and slowing down to give her the bird, unless she sped up to try and prevent him from getting in front of her.

There were a couple of left turn lanes that I could see during that exchange.  When exactly was she going to turn?

Stop trying to control other drivers, that's what the police are for.  End road vigilantes.

Freeways work most efficiently when inside lanes are traveling faster than outside lanes.

Also, driving side-by-side when the rest of the road is clear is just dumb.  Who are you most likely to hit?  The ONLY OTHER CAR ON THE ROAD.
 
2014-03-28 10:44:20 AM  
I just love how she didn't want her name mentioned, but they included it with the pics beneath the article...
 
2014-03-28 10:44:47 AM  

Gecko Gingrich: Besides that, I can't find any reference to the posted speed limit in either the original vid or this newscast.


It was on the version I saw this morning on local (CBS) news done by that quirky old ugly lady that does like a segment per week. Can't remember her name, and I think she's syndicated, so she may not be on CBS where you are. I saw that part you mentioned, and also that she was passing another vehicle, so she may have been speeding even at that point. Before you pigeon-hole me on her side, be sure to check some of my other posts on her behavior.
 
2014-03-28 10:45:23 AM  

MadameX: I just love how she didn't want her name mentioned, but they included it with the pics beneath the article...


I wish someone had protected us from her face.  She's a cliche, the pushy fat broad.  BORING!
 
2014-03-28 10:46:49 AM  

Bf+: A lot of uninformed hate in here.
Left lane loafer doesn't apply in this case:  It wasn't a freeway and she was in the lane to make a left turn.


You're right.

It wasn't a freeway.  She had every right to hog the left lane.  Yeah, it can be maddening, but traffic sucks. Don't like it, move.
 
Ant
2014-03-28 10:47:07 AM  
I hate tailgaters way more than I hate people who take one hand off the wheel to film tailgaters. Also, if you have a turn coming up, you have a legitimate reason to be in the left lane.

WTF is it with drivers of those huge pickups driving them like they're tiny sports cars? Jesus farking Christ people, why do you stress out so much over not being able to go one extra mph over the speed limit?
 
2014-03-28 10:50:12 AM  

PluckYew: SurfaceTension: adragontattoo: Dancin_In_Anson: I wonder why everyone is in such a farking hurry to get to the next red light.

I always laugh when I am in town and someone hauls ass as soon as the light turns green.  I always make sure to applaud and congratulate them on winning the race to the red light.  I then profusely apologize for taking so long to arrive.  Best so far was the guy who "raced" me to 5 consecutive red lights.  I was very ashamed that I managed to lose to him so many times.  The cops even pulled him over to congratulate him (I assume that is why they pulled a U-turn and started up their disco lights.)

And I thought the lights in northern Virginia were awfully timed. Where is this hell-hole that you live that has red lights that one can catch 5 consecutive without hitting a green?

Aren't they timed so that, if you go the speed limit in the city, you can catch them as they are turning green?

Sometimes referred as a green wave.

She had ample opportunity to pull over and let him pass, he was an idiot for tailgating and slowing down to give her the bird, unless she sped up to try and prevent him from getting in front of her.

There were a couple of left turn lanes that I could see during that exchange.  When exactly was she going to turn?

Stop trying to control other drivers, that's what the police are for.  End road vigilantes.

Freeways work most efficiently when inside lanes are traveling faster than outside lanes.

Also, driving side-by-side when the rest of the road is clear is just dumb.  Who are you most likely to hit?  The ONLY OTHER CAR ON THE ROAD.


Nope and I have not yet found the speed that works to do that.  Anytime I talk to people about it, we all agree that the lights aren't set(synced?) correctly.  Hell there is one light that I THINK has been fixed (last time I went through it, I was doing the speed limit) finally but it would turn red UNLESS you were doing 10 under the speed limit.
 
2014-03-28 10:50:56 AM  

Bf+: A lot of uninformed hate in here.
Left lane loafer doesn't apply in this case:  It wasn't a freeway and she was in the lane to make a left turn.


That's true, but she still shouldn't have taken her hands off the wheel and eyes off the road to film the incident.  If she hadn't gotten out the phone, turned around in her seat, focused on filming instead of driving, and taken at least one hand off the wheel, she would have been doing nothing wrong.

But she did all of those things, and that makes her a shiatty driver.
 
2014-03-28 10:52:02 AM  

Ant: I hate tailgaters way more than I hate people who take one hand off the wheel to film tailgaters. Also, if you have a turn coming up, you have a legitimate reason to be in the left lane.

WTF is it with drivers of those huge pickups driving them like they're tiny sports cars? Jesus farking Christ people, why do you stress out so much over not being able to go one extra mph over the speed limit?


NO.  I stress because you ARENT going 1mph over...
 
2014-03-28 10:52:24 AM  

adragontattoo: Btw, can anyone explain why people who are shiatty drivers get so mad when I give them a thumbs down?  I must have missed the memo about how thumbs down is more offensive than any other possible gesture.  It is almost comical how mad some people will get.


They especially like it when you blow them a kiss.
 
2014-03-28 10:52:49 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: sammyk: OregonVet: sammyk: I don't either.Good, because another story on the news this morning showed the part where she pointed the camera at her dash proving it.

But please don't pretend that there is not an abundance of self important douche bags that think it's their civic duty to block traffic and set the speed for everyone else.

Sure there is. But this isn't relevant here.

Yes it is. She was impeding traffic in the left lane causing a potentially dangerous situation. She made it worse being a dumbass with her cell phone. it could be argued that she created a dangerous situation that contributed to the dumbass in the truck getting into an accident. So there's plenty of dumbass to go around in this case.

She wasn't impeding traffic and she didn't cause him to tailgate or to later unskillfully cut her off.


Looked like she was impeding to me. It's hard to tell but it looks like she was intentionally trying to box him in. Now he made the stupid move to try and fit through the small gap she left him and lost control. I in no way am absolving redneck truck guy. But her actions made the situation more dangerous. Her actions were just as wreckless and dangerous as his. She is not law enforcement. She's a busy body that admits to recording people she pisses off ona  regular basis.

I outright reject that she is completely innocent in this ordeal. It's absurd to say pulling your cell phone out, loading whatever video recorder, pointing it towards the back window, side window and so on is a safe thing to do.

If I was driving the other way and that truck slammed into me I would damn sure include her on the lawsuit the instant i was made aware of the video.
 
Ant
2014-03-28 10:52:49 AM  

BizarreMan: If it's so dangerous to be on the wet roads, taking care not to wreck.  It should be too dangerous for her to be taking one hand off the wheel and grab her cell phone.


Obviously it's more dangerous to be a dipshiat in a large truck who drives like an asshole. Taking one hand off the wheel to hold a cellphone in the general direction of the truck driving moron is relatively safe.
 
2014-03-28 10:53:06 AM  

Ant: I hate tailgaters way more than I hate people who take one hand off the wheel to film tailgaters. Also, if you have a turn coming up, you have a legitimate reason to be in the left lane.

WTF is it with drivers of those huge pickups driving them like they're tiny sports cars? Jesus farking Christ people, why do you stress out so much over not being able to go one extra mph over the speed limit?


So much this.

It's not surprising there are so many road ragers on Fark.  Attacking the driver for committing the completely imaginary sin of being in the left lane, even though she was on a regular road with left turn lanes, and was about to turn left,

If being behind someone in traffic enrages you that much, move somewhere with less traffic.  Stress like that is not healthy.
 
2014-03-28 10:54:40 AM  
Gonz

No, no, no. This is Fark. If you're driving in the left lane, it doesn't matter how fast you're going. If the car behind you wants to go faster, that's your problem, and you'd better let them pass you or you're wrong.
Yes, that's why the left lane is called "The Passing Lane". It's not a hard concept to grasp. Stop being a passive aggressive vigilante and move over.
 
2014-03-28 10:54:50 AM  

Ant: BizarreMan: If it's so dangerous to be on the wet roads, taking care not to wreck.  It should be too dangerous for her to be taking one hand off the wheel and grab her cell phone.

Obviously it's more dangerous to be a dipshiat in a large truck who drives like an asshole. Taking one hand off the wheel to hold a cellphone in the general direction of the truck driving moron is relatively safe.


She'll probably sleep with you.
 
2014-03-28 10:55:43 AM  

R.A.Danny: sammyk: for good or for awesome: Roads with intersections every few hundred yards don't have fast lanes.  I'm not going to weave in and out of traffic to make my turn just so you can drive a couple miles and hour faster than me.  Even if you are a big tough guy in a truck.

You could like try to be courteous in situations like that. it could even be argued that common sense says letting the dickheaded big tough truck guy go on past you actually makes YOU safer. But nah, kick the anthill. I'm sure you get something out of it.

No. There is no expectation of lane usage nor are there laws about staying to the right on roads like that. Making up rules in your head will only end up with your pickup truck sliding backwards into oncoming traffic.


So I repeat. You want to kick the anthill because you are not a courteous driver. I didn't say anything about the legality.
 
2014-03-28 10:57:07 AM  

BizarreMan: I'm not entirely sure who the jackass is in this particular scenario.

Not to excuse his actions but:

She claims that the road conditions are wet and slick so she doesn't want to speed.  Given the results of speeding and swerving being a crash, she may be correct.

There was apparently enough distance/time for her to get far enough past the car she was passing for him to pass them, cut to the right lane, and then pass her.  Plenty of time for her to get over, let him by, and then move back over to the left lane for her turn.

If it's so dangerous to be on the wet roads, taking care not to wreck.  It should be too dangerous for her to be taking one hand off the wheel and grab her cell phone.  At which point she then finds the app, and aims the phone in his general direction.  Even if she wasn't watching what was being recorded while driving.  That isn't safe driving.  It's damn dangerous.  If the conditions are so bad.

She says on the video and articles that she's made recordings like this before which tells me that she is a passive-aggressive left lane Nazi with AW tendencies.  I'm curious how many other videos she has on YouTube where drivers are being incited to road rage.


if you dont speed this wouldnt happen. especially on wet days.

yeah, what she did wasnt safe, but dickbags like the penis extension truck need darwin to bite their asses, such as in this video :)
 
2014-03-28 10:57:14 AM  
I don't think anyone in this thread is absolving the guy of guilt.  Everyone agrees that dude is in the wrong.  But they are pointing out that her antics did nothing to improve the situation, and may have worsened it.  It is likely neither would have crashed had either changed their actions.

At the end of the day, they are both contributing to making the road unsafe.
 
2014-03-28 10:57:19 AM  

Fade2black: Because taking video while you're illegally in the left lane absolves her of all blame (if you're not passing you're impeding). fark this biatch.


sammyk: OregonVet: sammyk: Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil

I don't think 55+ in a 50 zone is hogging the left lane if you have a turn coming up.

I don't either. But please don't pretend that there is not an abundance of self important douche bags that think it's their civic duty to block traffic and set the speed for everyone else.


And this. Lots of passive aggressive narcissistic assholes out there that feel it's their duty to slow down anyone that is going faster then they are. As the video proves, this creates just as much road rage as the speeding dickhead.

/Aggressive driver, but moves to the right for faster cars.


I prefer to drive on the righthand side, for the most part, since I simply tend not to speed very much. When I'm on the highway and move over to the left lane to pass someone, it seems that almost immediately someone will zoom up behind me real fast and wants me to move over. However, when someone is driving like that AND they are right on your ass it suddenly becomes not at all safe to move to the right. Why? Because, as I've experienced first hand, those same people who are in such a rush are the same folks who tend not to use blinkers. It's happened plenty of times that just as I'm moving to the right that the other car decides to pass. At least stay behind me a car-length or so and give me some farking time to move over!
 
2014-03-28 10:59:06 AM  
Damn, this thread is funny. Not as funny as TFA, but close.
 
2014-03-28 11:01:17 AM  

The Muthaship: There's no one to root for here.


This idiot lady filming the entire thing while driving?

Not sure who the bigger douche is here...
 
Ant
2014-03-28 11:01:31 AM  

RandomRandom: If being behind someone in traffic enrages you that much, move somewhere with less traffic.  Stress like that is not healthy.


I used to be one of these road raging morons. I'm not proud of it, but I was. Luckily I didn't have to have a crash in order to see that it is completely pointless and stupid to stress out over something like that. You don't act like that outside the car, do you?

/audio books help a lot
//really slow drivers in any lane still piss me off, but not to the extent that they used to
 
2014-03-28 11:03:23 AM  

DrBenway: adragontattoo: Btw, can anyone explain why people who are shiatty drivers get so mad when I give them a thumbs down?  I must have missed the memo about how thumbs down is more offensive than any other possible gesture.  It is almost comical how mad some people will get.

They especially like it when you blow them a kiss.


Ha-Ha, I do that.
 
2014-03-28 11:03:33 AM  

lack of warmth: Dog Welder: For those who missed it, there is no "passing lane" on this road.  She was planning on making a left turn so getting over into the right lane would not have been the proper move.

Also happy to see a road-raging, tailgating douche get what's coming to him, and glad he didn't hit other vehicles in the process.

I second this.  It is simply a four lane road, not an interstate.  There is a five lane road that I take to work that if I'm not in the lane I need 1.5 miles away from my turn, I'm not making my turn.  And I still get people riding my butt when I'm already stuck behind someone else.  I hope he stands as an example to others that if you don't have patience, you don't have license.

/I do wonder what this guy's Fark handle is though


If you can't manage to change lanes in a minute and a half (at 60 mph, 3 minutes at 30mph) you're the one who should be without a license. Patience my arse, that's incompetence.
 
2014-03-28 11:03:59 AM  

OnlyM3: Gonz

No, no, no. This is Fark. If you're driving in the left lane, it doesn't matter how fast you're going. If the car behind you wants to go faster, that's your problem, and you'd better let them pass you or you're wrong.Yes, that's why the left lane is called "The Passing Lane". It's not a hard concept to grasp. Stop being a passive aggressive vigilante and move over make your left turn.


How dare they.
 
2014-03-28 11:04:12 AM  

guyinjeep16: The Muthaship: There's no one to root for here.

This idiot lady filming the entire thing while driving?

Not sure who the bigger douche is here...


Karma chose the bigger douche, spun his ass around, and put him into a pole. Karma went on to make it easy for the cops to find his stupid ass.
 
2014-03-28 11:04:51 AM  

petec: Patience my arse, that's incompetence.


Yet her car is unscathed.
 
2014-03-28 11:05:21 AM  
This was a surface street, not an interstate. It has unprotected left turns. Drive right, pass on the left does not apply. She did nothing wrong (she's an annoying ass, but that's another story). Once the right lane was clear, Mr. Truck moved into the right lane and could have passed her, the road ahead was open, and instead decided to drive next to her while displaying his belief that Duke is #1. In this case, she did nothing wrong, he was utterly and completely at fault. He got what he deserved.
 
2014-03-28 11:05:47 AM  
Karma is a biatch and the trucker certainly got his. Having said that, hers is in the mail.

/ I drive fast. I abhor motoring along with the rest of the pack.
// my only goal is to get the hell away from YOU.
 
2014-03-28 11:08:03 AM  
You only need to see that truck parked to know the owner is a total douche, people who own giant trucks and then don't use them for actually hauling stuff are assholes. Either that dude is less than 5ft 5 or he has a tiny ween.
 
2014-03-28 11:08:20 AM  
Two!  Two dumbasses.
manhattaninfidel.com
 
2014-03-28 11:09:10 AM  
Had a guy get all road ragey on me
Brandished a gat and got all grimacey
If he'd really meant to shoot, he'd have rolled down his window...
 
2014-03-28 11:09:21 AM  

sammyk: HotWingConspiracy: sammyk: OregonVet: sammyk: I don't either.Good, because another story on the news this morning showed the part where she pointed the camera at her dash proving it.

But please don't pretend that there is not an abundance of self important douche bags that think it's their civic duty to block traffic and set the speed for everyone else.

Sure there is. But this isn't relevant here.

Yes it is. She was impeding traffic in the left lane causing a potentially dangerous situation. She made it worse being a dumbass with her cell phone. it could be argued that she created a dangerous situation that contributed to the dumbass in the truck getting into an accident. So there's plenty of dumbass to go around in this case.

She wasn't impeding traffic and she didn't cause him to tailgate or to later unskillfully cut her off.

Looked like she was impeding to me.


By driving? She's not obligated to speed for him.

 It's hard to tell but it looks like she was intentionally trying to box him in.

What?

 Now he made the stupid move to try and fit through the small gap she left him and lost control.

Again, what? That she left him? He didn't have to do that.

 I in no way am absolving redneck truck guy. But her actions made the situation more dangerous. Her actions were just as wreckless and dangerous as his.

No. He was tailgating, cut her off and couldn't stick the landing.

 She is not law enforcement.

Lucky for him.

 She's a busy body that admits to recording people she pisses off ona  regular basis.

Meh.

I outright reject that she is completely innocent in this ordeal. It's absurd to say pulling your cell phone out, loading whatever video recorder, pointing it towards the back window, side window and so on is a safe thing to do.

Not something I would do, but consider that she could do all of this and still not wreck her car. Retardface couldn't even handle a quick lane change.

If I was driving the other way and that truck slammed into me I would damn sure include her on the lawsuit the instant i was made aware of the video.

I would thank her and use the video to clean up in court.
 
2014-03-28 11:10:44 AM  
I never hog the fast lane on the interstate, I move over as fast as I can, no matter how fast the idiot behind me is going.

But if I'm on a regular road (like she was), about to turn left (like she was), and an idiot like that tailgates me, I barely tap the brake pedal while hitting the accelerator.  Just enough to light up the brake lights and make a huge separation between our cars.

If that doesn't work, I'll lift.    I'd never brake test anyone, but fake-brake, yeah, I'll do that.

Yeah, I can be an asshole, but I don't get worked up about it.  And hey, maybe some day I'll get a dickbag like that idiot arrested.  Then again, might get shot.

/No guts, no glory.
 
Bf+
2014-03-28 11:11:17 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: Bf+: A lot of uninformed hate in here.
Left lane loafer doesn't apply in this case:  It wasn't a freeway and she was in the lane to make a left turn.

That's true, but she still shouldn't have taken her hands off the wheel and eyes off the road to film the incident.  If she hadn't gotten out the phone, turned around in her seat, focused on filming instead of driving, and taken at least one hand off the wheel, she would have been doing nothing wrong.

But she did all of those things, and that makes her a shiatty driver.



Actually, she was was holding the phone, but with eyes on the road, not watching where she shot (helps explain the poor camera work).  She didn't even know the guy flipped her off until afterwards.  So, according to you, she did nothing wrong.
I actually think she shouldn't have even been doing that, but really my main point is that she wasn't "left lane loafing."
 
2014-03-28 11:11:43 AM  
I live, unfortunately, in South Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhkota: Land of enormous, and poorly driven, trucks. They don't know how to park and they sure as shiat can't drive. They tailgate me when I'm in the right lane doing the speed limit. They stop short. Half the time they hog their lane and half of mine too. It's always some twat in a stupid looking cowboy hat, billowing white shirt and smug look. I would love to see one of these douchebags total their truck over something like this.
 
2014-03-28 11:12:26 AM  
DrBenway [TotalFark]
2014-03-28 11:03:59 AM

OnlyM3: Gonz

No, no, no. This is Fark. If you're driving in the left lane, it doesn't matter how fast you're going. If the car behind you wants to go faster, that's your problem, and you'd better let them pass you or you're wrong.Yes, that's why the left lane is called "The Passing Lane". It's not a hard concept to grasp. Stop being a passive aggressive vigilante and move over make your left turn.

How dare they.

Nice try, but the original video is over 2minutes long.
She sped up to prevent rage-y-mcfailure from passing.

She was not planning on turning, she was being a coont. Obviously the idiot in the truck's reaction is wrong -duh-, but so is the obese vigilante.
 
2014-03-28 11:14:44 AM  
This guy is getting ridiculed on my local news right now.
 
2014-03-28 11:15:22 AM  

Because People in power are Stupid: When performing road rage from a truck -it's best to do it at night. That way you can flick on your brights while tailgating.


thats ok. i can always adjust my mirrors upwards so they reflect it right back at dipshiats like you.

adragontattoo: OregonVet: sammyk: Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil

I don't think 55+ in a 50 zone is hogging the left lane if you have a turn coming up.

Coming up meaning the next 1/4 mile or sometime eventually in the next 5 miles I will have to turn left so I will just stay in the left lane until then no matter what?

Before all of the self righteous blow hards arrive to proclaim that they are doing the speed limit so they don't have to move, I would like to provide the following link.  http://www.fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2006/022006/02092006/166829   In this link there is a statement from the Virginia State Police.  "Leave it up to police officers to deal with any violations they might be committing. We'll handle that," he said. "But the law still requires you to move to the right and let them pass."

That means that unless you are a LEO, you don't get to decide to enforce the law.  No!  Not yours!  [3.bp.blogspot.com image 850x494]


actually, ill do whatever the fark i want to do. you arent the cops and cant say shiat as to whether or not i can go the speed limit in the left lane. it is a SPEED LIMIT for a reason, but jackasses like you seem to forget that.

sammyk: OregonVet: sammyk: I don't either.Good, because another story on the news this morning showed the part where she pointed the camera at her dash proving it.

But please don't pretend that there is not an abundance of self important douche bags that think it's their civic duty to block traffic and set the speed for everyone else.

Sure there is. But this isn't relevant here.

Yes it is. She was impeding traffic in the left lane causing a potentially dangerous situation. She made it worse being a dumbass with her cell phone. it could be argued that she created a dangerous situation that contributed to the dumbass in the truck getting into an accident. So there's plenty of dumbass to go around in this case.


no she wasnt. going the speed limit is NOT impeding traffic, especially when she is NOT on the freeway.
 
2014-03-28 11:17:26 AM  

Gonz: No, no, no. This is Fark. If you're driving in the left lane, it doesn't matter how fast you're going. If the car behind you wants to go faster, that's your problem, and you'd better let them pass you or you're wrong.


Almost correct. It's not because this is Fark. It's because in many jurisdictions it is the law. *Expressly* the law. Even where it's not the law, it's still the courteous and safe thing to do.

Gonz: Also, someone in the right lane going exactly the speed limit is a hazard to everyone else on the road. I've been told this many, many times.


If car A is going the slower than everyone else on the road, regardless of the speed limit posted, car A *is* hazard.
 
2014-03-28 11:19:42 AM  

sammyk: So I repeat. You want to kick the anthill because you are not a courteous driver. I didn't say anything about the legality.


Last time I bothered to post in a traffic thread I was informed in no uncertain terms that any behavior at all is acceptable as long as it's within the bounds of the law. Going out of your way to piss off other drivers is A-OK, as long as you don't break the law doing it.
 
2014-03-28 11:20:32 AM  
The left-lane provision is part of the 226-page [Florida] House Bill 7125. It states that drivers on any road with two or more lanes in the same direction may not drive more than 10 mph slower than the posted speed limit in the left lane if they know they are being overtaken. It does not apply to drivers preparing for a left turn at an intersection.

Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2013-06-27/story/left-lane-slowpok e s-face-fines-under-new-florida-law#ixzz2xGp3tGVd


Emphasis added. The law doesn't allow for you douchebags that feel you need to speed more than the person in front of you. It's there to help those who want to drive the speed limit.
 
2014-03-28 11:20:42 AM  

OnlyM3: DrBenway [TotalFark]
2014-03-28 11:03:59 AM

OnlyM3: Gonz

No, no, no. This is Fark. If you're driving in the left lane, it doesn't matter how fast you're going. If the car behind you wants to go faster, that's your problem, and you'd better let them pass you or you're wrong.Yes, that's why the left lane is called "The Passing Lane". It's not a hard concept to grasp. Stop being a passive aggressive vigilante and move over make your left turn.

How dare they.
Nice try, but the original video is over 2minutes long.
She sped up to prevent rage-y-mcfailure from passing.



I saw the original video yesterday and that was pretty much my impression. She was being douchy, in her own slow-a$$ way. That's not to say that rage-y-mcfailure wasn't being a total dick; he was being exactly that.

Not to worry - she'll get hers eventually.
 
2014-03-28 11:20:53 AM  

OnlyM3: Nice try, but the original video is over 2minutes long.
She sped up to prevent rage-y-mcfailure from passing.

She was not planning on turning, she was being a coont. Obviously the idiot in the truck's reaction is wrong -duh-, but so is the obese vigilante.


I went back and watched the original YouTube clip after your post and you're right.  The truck gets past her and she speeds up to where she is ahead of him again.  That is the point where he speeds up and flips her off before crashing.
 
2014-03-28 11:21:15 AM  

Gonz: OregonVet: sammyk: Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil

I don't think 55+ in a 50 zone is hogging the left lane if you have a turn coming up.

No, no, no. This is Fark. If you're driving in the left lane, it doesn't matter how fast you're going. If the car behind you wants to go faster, that's your problem, and you'd better let them pass you or you're wrong.

Also, someone in the right lane going exactly the speed limit is a hazard to everyone else on the road. I've been told this many, many times.


The Fark ProDriver© squad should arrive soon to tell everyone that they are better drivers.
 
2014-03-28 11:22:01 AM  

NicktheSmoker: Also, shouldn't she also get a ticket for using her damn phone while driving?


As far as I know, that's not illegal in Florida yet. My brother in law was constantly on his phone/texting/checking email when I visited him down there, drove me nuts. I asked him if he was worried about getting a ticket and he said it wasn't against the law yet.
 
2014-03-28 11:22:03 AM  

loaba: I saw the original video yesterday


I submitted it. Before there were 1,000 hits. Nope, not butthurt at all.

/kicks dirt.
 
2014-03-28 11:22:28 AM  
I watched a longer video than this on another link last night.  As usual, the Fark train assumed the lady driver was driving in the left lane just to jack Ford Truck Man off.  Earlier in the show, she wanted to let the jackass pass but she couldn't move over because there was traffic there.  There was nowhere to go, for christ's sake. By the time there was room, she was too close to her turn.

/ just drove from Pa to SC and back, had to put up with about a thousand Ford Truck Men in a traffic flow going 90 who seemed eerily similar to Mr. Jackass in the movie.  Mostly NC.
// takes balls for Ms. Ladydriver to hold the camera-phone filming behind for that amount of time on wet roads.  Not very smart, either.
 
2014-03-28 11:22:37 AM  
What he did was shocking and dangerous, sure, but did she ever stop to think that maybe he was reacting to this crazy biatch ahead of him recording traffic on her cell phone instead of, ohIdunno, WATCHING THE DAMN ROAD??

/they're both dangerous assholes
//burn their licenses and make them take the bus from here on out
 
2014-03-28 11:22:44 AM  

adragontattoo: yakmans_dad: adragontattoo: OregonVet: NicktheSmoker: Also, shouldn't she also get a ticket for using her damn phone while driving?

I picked out three tickets: speeding (not enough to bother with a stop tho), distracted driving (phone), and all that shiat in the windshield.

Failure to pay full time and attention since she is more concerned with videoing the guy driving behind/beside her and then being sure to record him crashed.

I wonder if Fl. can issue her a ticket NOW for distracted driving since it is BLATANT that she is using a cell to record video while moving.  There is NO ambiguity about whether or not she was recording.  If recording of a police officer can be used as evidence, shouldn't this count against her?

You wouldn't have a tender conscience, would you?

Nope, why should I?


I have no idea. The vehemence with which you (and many here) express your dislike of the woman sounds like Anger Management issues to me.
 
2014-03-28 11:23:49 AM  

Ant: I hate tailgaters way more than I hate people who take one hand off the wheel to film tailgaters. Also, if you have a turn coming up, you have a legitimate reason to be in the left lane.

WTF is it with drivers of those huge pickups driving them like they're tiny sports cars? Jesus farking Christ people, why do you stress out so much over not being able to go one extra mph over the speed limit?


In my experience, large pickup drivers drive as if they own the road, and everyone should yield to them.

There's a size joke in there somewhere.
 
2014-03-28 11:24:20 AM  

yakmans_dad: adragontattoo: yakmans_dad: adragontattoo: OregonVet: NicktheSmoker: Also, shouldn't she also get a ticket for using her damn phone while driving?

I picked out three tickets: speeding (not enough to bother with a stop tho), distracted driving (phone), and all that shiat in the windshield.

Failure to pay full time and attention since she is more concerned with videoing the guy driving behind/beside her and then being sure to record him crashed.

I wonder if Fl. can issue her a ticket NOW for distracted driving since it is BLATANT that she is using a cell to record video while moving.  There is NO ambiguity about whether or not she was recording.  If recording of a police officer can be used as evidence, shouldn't this count against her?

You wouldn't have a tender conscience, would you?

Nope, why should I?

I have no idea. The vehemence with which you (and many here) express your dislike of the woman sounds like Anger Management issues to me.


They sound like the next guy flying off the road and blaming someone else for a once car incident.
 
2014-03-28 11:24:31 AM  

adragontattoo: Btw, can anyone explain why people who are shiatty drivers get so mad when I give them a thumbs down?  I must have missed the memo about how thumbs down is more offensive than any other possible gesture.  It is almost comical how mad some people will get.


I usually give 'em the old Little Rascals hi-sign (back of your hand touching your chin, fingers waving).

I get some mighty funny reactions to that one for sure. Try it, you'll like it ;)
 
2014-03-28 11:26:04 AM  

Bf+: not watching where she shot


She was watching closely enough to keep the truck in frame.

Bf+: So, according to you, she did nothing wrong.


She still took at least one hand off the wheel in what  she described as bad driving conditions.  She intentionally chose to divide her attention under those circumstances.

Look, if she'd had a friend in the passenger seat doing the filming, then I'd agree her driving was fine.  But the fact that her Weeners to being tailgated was to pull out her phone and start filming demonstrates a serious lack of judgement on her part.
 
2014-03-28 11:26:12 AM  
OK... I have a passing legality question.

Suppose you come to a stoplight of a one-lane road that has a left turn lane and a right turn lane.  If you go straight, the road turns into a two-lane road immediately after the stoplight, and continues to stay as such for about 100 yards, at which point it merges back into a one lane road.

If a slow moving vehicle is in front of you at the stop light and you both go straight, is it legal to immediately lane change after the light, pass the slow-moving vehicle on the right, then merge back to the one lane road?

I attempted to do this one day when a large dump truck was in front of me at the light.  The dump truck driver was absolutely pissed and the minute he saw me move into the right lane, he lurched his truck to the right in an attempt to collide with the side of my car.  He was definitely not trying to just scare me as he got about 2 inches from my car before I took my vehicle fully into the ditch to avoid him.  There was absolutely no where else I could've gone to avoid the collision.

I couldn't fathom why a professional driver would attempt to collide with another vehicle simply because he didn't want me to pass -- unless he knew the entire altercation would be deemed my fault from a legal stand point. Anyone know the specifics on something like this?
 
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2014-03-28 11:26:13 AM  

jso2897: This guy is getting ridiculed on my local news right now.


Awesome...
Any news clips?
Did they identify the guy?
(Don't identify him here, of course)
 
2014-03-28 11:26:29 AM  

Noticeably F.A.T.: sammyk: So I repeat. You want to kick the anthill because you are not a courteous driver. I didn't say anything about the legality.

Last time I bothered to post in a traffic thread I was informed in no uncertain terms that any behavior at all is acceptable as long as it's within the bounds of the law. Going out of your way to piss off other drivers is A-OK, as long as you don't break the law doing it.


Well, technically, it is - but it's not good policy. When I detect a speed demon or road rager in my vicinity, I endeavor to get the hell out of their way, and otherwise ignore them. Once in a great while, somebody still gets pissed off at me, but i just drive defensively and pay them no mind. It's your problem if you get mad at me, and I won't let you make it mine.
 
2014-03-28 11:27:38 AM  

xalres: NicktheSmoker: Also, shouldn't she also get a ticket for using her damn phone while driving?

As far as I know, that's not illegal in Florida yet. My brother in law was constantly on his phone/texting/checking email when I visited him down there, drove me nuts. I asked him if he was worried about getting a ticket and he said it wasn't against the law yet.


I was driving in Florida a few years back, my fiancee was like, holy shiat, look at that!  I look over to the right, a girl, driving with her knees, texting.  At 60MPH.
I was like, OK, getting the hell away from that, so I overtook her in the left lane, and as I passed, notice that the entire front of her car had collision damage much like you would get from rear ending someone.

farking Florida.
 
2014-03-28 11:29:09 AM  

nijika: Oh lordy I love the amount of projection in this thread.  So many rootin' tootin' urban cowboys in their Ford F450's seeing their hero ditch his motorized penis trying to pass the blame for his moronic actions on to a woman in a minivan obeying the rules of the road.

Other than her filming a guy threatening her in his oversized pickup, she's doing everything else properly, including staying the course when faced with an aggressive driver.

That's what you get, cowboys.  You aren't traffic heroes for tailgating.


Yes, other than being just as dangerous as he is on the road, she's doing everything correctly. That's the ticket!
 
2014-03-28 11:30:06 AM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Yes, other than being just as dangerous as he is on the road, she's doing everything correctly. That's the ticket!


You really just show up in threads to look like an idiot, don't you?
 
2014-03-28 11:30:38 AM  
My 2 cents:  The woman driver was not speeding, however, from the video, there wasn't much traffic, and she could have easily gotten over to let the truck pass.  She said she was in the left lane to turn (she can say anything she wants), but the vid is almost 2 minutes long and her turn never comes.

She may not have HAD to get over, as she apparently wasn't breaking the law (regarding staying right except to pass), but she didn't.  Why not?  Who knows.  But just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD.

The woman, while not breaking the law, still showed an utter disregard for her safety and the safety of others by willfully not letting the truck pass, and filming while driving.  She said she does this a lot, as if it's her mission to aggravate other drivers, then play victim when they take umbrage with her.  IMHO, she is just as dangerous as the guy in the truck, and her "accident" is coming.
 
2014-03-28 11:30:52 AM  

R.A.Danny: How someone wipes out that badly all by himself is beyond me. I bet that doesn't even happen in China.


It's always sad when a boy discovers he's bought too much truck.
 
2014-03-28 11:31:07 AM  

Bf+: jso2897: This guy is getting ridiculed on my local news right now.

Awesome...
Any news clips?
Did they identify the guy?
(Don't identify him here, of course)


I didn't notice if they identified him, but they're having a ball with the clip - showing the good parts over and over, laughing at the guy, soliciting viewer comments.... sucks to be him! :D
 
2014-03-28 11:31:09 AM  

jso2897: Noticeably F.A.T.: sammyk: So I repeat. You want to kick the anthill because you are not a courteous driver. I didn't say anything about the legality.

Last time I bothered to post in a traffic thread I was informed in no uncertain terms that any behavior at all is acceptable as long as it's within the bounds of the law. Going out of your way to piss off other drivers is A-OK, as long as you don't break the law doing it.

Well, technically, it is - but it's not good policy. When I detect a speed demon or road rager in my vicinity, I endeavor to get the hell out of their way, and otherwise ignore them. Once in a great while, somebody still gets pissed off at me, but i just drive defensively and pay them no mind. It's your problem if you get mad at me, and I won't let you make it mine.


I notice that completely ignoring a road rager will infuriate them even more.

I have, once or twice, looked over at them, and gave them a tongue out hand waving from nose face.  Like you'd do when you were five.  Infuriates them even more actually.

But, living in NY, I have to deal with a whole bunch of road raging, illegally driving asshats whenever I take to the wheel.

Your best bet is to ignore them, and basically, let them have their train wreck somewhere else, where you aren't.  Much like this video.
 
Bf+
2014-03-28 11:31:32 AM  

Blink: Suppose you come to a stoplight of a one-lane road that has a left turn lane and a right turn lane. If you go straight...


Wait... what?
 
2014-03-28 11:31:34 AM  
After reading the comments on this thread, I'm going to make a point of driving in the left lane, just slightly over the speed limit.
 
2014-03-28 11:33:03 AM  

lostcat: After reading the comments on this thread, I'm going to make a point of driving in the left lane, just slightly over  under the speed limit.



Works better.
 
2014-03-28 11:33:18 AM  
GET OUT OF THE FAST LANE you tubby $%#@. And, YOU OWE ME A NEW TRUCK lol.

Woman completely at fault here end of story.

Man card revoked for not knowing how to drive your truck dude.
 
Bf+
2014-03-28 11:33:28 AM  

jso2897: Bf+: jso2897: This guy is getting ridiculed on my local news right now.

Awesome...
Any news clips?
Did they identify the guy?
(Don't identify him here, of course)

I didn't notice if they identified him, but they're having a ball with the clip - showing the good parts over and over, laughing at the guy, soliciting viewer comments....


Awesome!


jso2897: sucks to be him! :D


...for so many reasons.
 
2014-03-28 11:33:30 AM  

psilocyberguy: I watched a longer video than this on another link last night.  As usual, the Fark train assumed the lady driver was driving in the left lane just to jack Ford Truck Man off.  Earlier in the show, she wanted to let the jackass pass but she couldn't move over because there was traffic there.



So she didn't want to stay right with the slower traffic, rather she wanted to hang out in the left lane and leisurely pass 'em like that.  That's on her. If you can't stand the heat of the kitchen, the get the fark out. If you're not prepared to do what it takes to pass slower traffic, stay the fark to the right! When your intersection comes up, flip the blinker on, get over and make your turn.
 
2014-03-28 11:34:02 AM  

Gecko Gingrich: Almost correct. It's not because this is Fark. It's because in many jurisdictions it is the law. *Expressly* the law. Even where it's not the law, it's still the courteous and safe thing to do.


Bullshiat.  You have a citation to show that this is the law "in most places"?

The Keep Right laws I'm familiar with require you to stay in the righmost lane unless you are passing, or unless you are approaching a left turn - they do NOT require you to move out of the way of an overtaking vehicle, no matter how fast Jethro P Roadrage flashes his headlights or how close he tailgates.
 
2014-03-28 11:34:10 AM  

xtech: thats ok. i can always adjust my mirrors upwards so they reflect it right back at dipshiats like you.


That won't work unless you replace your entire rear windshield with a mirror.
 
2014-03-28 11:34:31 AM  

tripleseven: lostcat: After reading the comments on this thread, I'm going to make a point of driving in the left lane, just slightly over  under the speed limit.


Works better.


I don't mind being an asshole, but I don't want to be that much of an asshole.
 
2014-03-28 11:34:39 AM  

tripleseven: I notice that completely ignoring a road rager will infuriate them even more.


I don't just ignore them. I also do everything safe and legal in my power to get out of their way, and as far away from them as possible.
 
2014-03-28 11:34:41 AM  
I had a great interaction with  a road rage moron awhile back:

I was coming onto the highway along a very busy entrance ramp like I do EVERY day, and this ramp turns into an off ramp in a short distance, so you must merge onto the highway quickly.

 I had 3 car lengths to merge into between cars (which is more than you usually have here) and this chick in a mustang purposefully guns it  to close the gap so that I can't merge.  I give her a WTF face and should shrug as we are staring face to face and she begins to flip me the bird... BLAAAMMO.... she rear ended the car in front of her since traffic had stopped and she was focusing on screwing me over.

Laugher. OH. EL!

...we were only within eyesight of eachother for like 50 feet so I really don't know how she could have had anything against me to pull this? I guess she was having a bad day that got even worse.

/csb
 
2014-03-28 11:35:18 AM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Yes, other than being just as dangerous as he is on the road, she's doing everything correctly. That's the ticket!

The My Little Pony Killer: nijika: Oh lordy I love the amount of projection in this thread.  So many rootin' tootin' urban cowboys in their Ford F450's seeing their hero ditch his motorized penis trying to pass the blame for his moronic actions on to a woman in a minivan obeying the rules of the road.

Other than her filming a guy threatening her in his oversized pickup, she's doing everything else properly, including staying the course when faced with an aggressive driver.

That's what you get, cowboys.  You aren't traffic heroes for tailgating.

Yes, other than being just as dangerous as he is on the road, she's doing everything correctly. That's the ticket!


"Just as dangerous"?

The idiot truck driver caused an accident, could have killed people when he went off the road.  Was speeding, tailgating, driving too close, threatening other drivers, and she was "just as dangerous"?

Uh, no.

Fark is obviously packed with road ragers.  Not a big surprise, in fact, just confirms a long time suspicion.

Stressing at traffic isn't worth a heart attack.
 
2014-03-28 11:35:19 AM  

Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: Yeah, guy drove like a dumbass and paid for it, but that women needs her ass kicked.

Did you see the women? She's suffered enough.


She looks like Ellen Page with 125 extra pounds on her.
 
2014-03-28 11:35:21 AM  

sammyk: OregonVet: sammyk: I don't either.Good, because another story on the news this morning showed the part where she pointed the camera at her dash proving it.

But please don't pretend that there is not an abundance of self important douche bags that think it's their civic duty to block traffic and set the speed for everyone else.

Sure there is. But this isn't relevant here.

Yes it is. She was impeding traffic in the left lane causing a potentially dangerous situation. She made it worse being a dumbass with her cell phone. it could be argued that she created a dangerous situation that contributed to the dumbass in the truck getting into an accident. So there's plenty of dumbass to go around in this case.


Sure it could be argued. I can also argue that you have a stick shoved up your rear.
 
2014-03-28 11:35:50 AM  

Ctrl-Alt-Del: Gecko Gingrich: Almost correct. It's not because this is Fark. It's because in many jurisdictions it is the law. *Expressly* the law. Even where it's not the law, it's still the courteous and safe thing to do.

Bullshiat.  You have a citation to show that this is the law "in most places"?

The Keep Right laws I'm familiar with require you to stay in the righmost lane unless you are passing, or unless you are approaching a left turn - they do NOT require you to move out of the way of an overtaking vehicle, no matter how fast Jethro P Roadrage flashes his headlights or how close he tailgates.


That is my new driving name.
 
2014-03-28 11:36:48 AM  

Mr. Cat Poop: She looks like Ellen Page with 125 extra pounds on her.


So a full extra Ellen Page?

Where's the pic?
 
2014-03-28 11:37:33 AM  

Bf+: jso2897: Bf+: jso2897: This guy is getting ridiculed on my local news right now.

Awesome...
Any news clips?
Did they identify the guy?
(Don't identify him here, of course)

I didn't notice if they identified him, but they're having a ball with the clip - showing the good parts over and over, laughing at the guy, soliciting viewer comments....

Awesome!


jso2897: sucks to be him! :D

...for so many reasons.


Well, having anger management issues sucks, and it f**ks up your life. When I was young, I had such issues, although they didn't manifest themselves on the road. It's not CSB time, but suffice it to say that my violent temper cost me dearly, in a lot of ways. I'm very, very glad to have outgrown it.
 
2014-03-28 11:37:33 AM  

Prevailing Wind: ...

...

really?

no one is going to say it?

...

REALLY?   OFFS.   I'll do it.


I would bang the ever living ching chong ching chong ching chong crap outta WTPS Night beat reporter Dion Lim!

/Thanks for making it alright for me to say that Stephen!


Well I was thinking it, but thanks for saying it.


I saw something like this before. My route home goes down a road that goes from two lanes to one. For the most part people let others merge in and there is never a problem. But once this dbag who needed to get an extra car length home comes tear assing in and bumped a driver swerved off the road and ended up on his side on the embankment. Seen it almost happen a bunch more times.
 
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2014-03-28 11:45:27 AM  

jso2897: Bf+: jso2897: Bf+: jso2897: This guy is getting ridiculed on my local news right now.

Did they identify the guy?


Aaaand I'm an idiot.
They actually identify the guy in this particular clip....
 
2014-03-28 11:45:34 AM  

Because People in power are Stupid: xtech: thats ok. i can always adjust my mirrors upwards so they reflect it right back at dipshiats like you.

That won't work unless you replace your entire rear windshield with a mirror.


wrong. i simply turn the middle window slightly upwards, so the light doesnt hit my eye. guess where it goes? :)

same with the rear windows. angle slightly upward and adjust til the beam is behind you with no glare.

i dont need rear view mirrors to tell me what i can learn from looking slightly left or right. plus its more fun when the jackasses start flashing lights and it does nothing to me ;)
 
2014-03-28 11:45:59 AM  

BEER_ME_in_CT: GET OUT OF THE FAST LANE you tubby $%#@. And, YOU OWE ME A NEW TRUCK lol.

Woman completely at fault here end of story.

Man card revoked for not knowing how to drive your truck dude.


Shocking that you are from CT with that attitude.  The majority of asshat drivers in NY will have a CT or NJ plate.  Protip:  There are actually traffic laws in NYC.  I know that you must feel some sort of inferiority/envy of NY, and NYC (I'm in the big bad city, there are no laws!), but no need to prove your toughness.  Don't drive like an asshat just because you're in NYC, and feel like you have something to prove.  The majority of NY'ers drive like reasonable, common sense, safe drivers.
 
2014-03-28 11:46:27 AM  
Jersey, Colorado for sure.  Probably others.

www.coloradodot.info

Michigan.

images.gasbuddy.com
 
2014-03-28 11:49:13 AM  
After reviewing the Florida Diver's Manual 2014, the woman was in the right, even though she was in the left lane of the two lanes of traffic. She explained she was passing slower vehicles in the right lane, then planned to turn left further down the highway. From what I could see, U.S. 41 is not a limited access highway like I-4, I-75 or the Florida Turnpike. So the left lane allows for passing and/or making left turns at breaks in the median between the opposing traffic flows.

Mr. Dumbass wanted to pass her, tailgated her and finally did pass her in the right lane. His behavior before and after passing was a danger to both of them. Fortunately nobody got hurt. And he got all the citations. As the woman didn't get any citations, even for filming the incident, I'm not the only one with the opinion she wasn't in the wrong.

I don't like left-lane Nazis on Interstates either. But, if they're passing slower traffic and doing the speed limit, I just chill out and enjoy the ride. Legally, they're correct. Now, if they continue to ride in the Interstae passing lane after clearing the slower traffic in the right lane, they've gone into poor driving skills mode. I'll pass them on the right safety and let them go on their merry way.
 
2014-03-28 11:49:18 AM  

loaba: psilocyberguy: I watched a longer video than this on another link last night.  As usual, the Fark train assumed the lady driver was driving in the left lane just to jack Ford Truck Man off.  Earlier in the show, she wanted to let the jackass pass but she couldn't move over because there was traffic there.


So she didn't want to stay right with the slower traffic, rather she wanted to hang out in the left lane and leisurely pass 'em like that.  That's on her. If you can't stand the heat of the kitchen, the get the fark out. If you're not prepared to do what it takes to pass slower traffic, stay the fark to the right! When your intersection comes up, flip the blinker on, get over and make your turn.


The longer video only showed her showing traffic to her immediate right for just a split second, it appeared to be clogged there so assuming that was representing the situation as it was, there was no place to get into the slow lane.

If however, you feel like Ford Truck Man's behavior was okay no matter what when frankly, we can't properly assess from the video and her's was egregious, maybe you need to turn in that Crackerjack license when you turn 18.
 
2014-03-28 11:49:49 AM  

Gonz: OregonVet: sammyk: Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil

I don't think 55+ in a 50 zone is hogging the left lane if you have a turn coming up.

No, no, no. This is Fark. If you're driving in the left lane, it doesn't matter how fast you're going. If the car behind you wants to go faster, that's your problem, and you'd better let them pass you or you're wrong.

Also, someone in the right lane going exactly the speed limit is a hazard to everyone else on the road. I've been told this many, many times.


Also people never, ever come up on your bumper like they want to pass then drive reeeeaaaallllly slowly right next to you and trap you behind the slow car in the right lane. Or go any speed between 20 and 80 completely at random. Hey, you can stay behind until you figure out how fast you're going.

Oh, and the woman making the video while drive, she's a major dick. Hope there's a law against taking a video while driving and she gets cited.
 
2014-03-28 11:50:35 AM  

OregonVet: sammyk: Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil

I don't think 55+ in a 50 zone is hogging the left lane if you have a turn coming up.


She didn't have a turn coming up.
 
2014-03-28 11:51:04 AM  
This whole "the left lane is reserved" idiocy has gone too far.  There's just no damn reason for it in the first place.  And because of it, you have an entire lane of travel that's basically wasted space.  Plus, the right-hand lane gets beat to hell, and it makes merging onto the highway (and being on the highway being merged onto) a pain in the ass.  It was a cute experiment, but frankly it's over.  It hasn't made people more courteous or reduced a single commuter's drive time.  All it's done is provide a bunch of whiny rednecks with a reason to get all road-ragey.  The supposed reason ("it's skeeery to pass on the right!") is moronic at best.  If you're concerned about that issue, then educate people on how to use turn signals and side mirrors.  Don't stop using an entire lane of travel because idiots can't check their effing blind spot.

(I don't travel in the left lane- the law's the law, after all.  But it still pisses me off to see an entire highway with only half the road used, and that half composed of potholes and patches.)
 
2014-03-28 11:51:59 AM  
I don't get it...

I drive a big ass pickup truck, yet I seem to be able to do so without being a total self-important tailgating foamy-mouthed road-raging shiatdick.

I must be doing something wrong.
 
2014-03-28 11:54:58 AM  

justtray: tripleseven: lostcat: After reading the comments on this thread, I'm going to make a point of driving in the left lane, just slightly under the speed limit.


Works better.

Just so long as you realize you're at fault when an accident occurs. Don't come crying on fark about how you're paralyzed for life because some guy rear ended you while you were intentionally being an asshole to spite him/her.

You are literally the cause of much of the traffic problems in this country. Well you and all those that think like you. The best part is you make yourself out to be the victim while admitting that you're the cause.


lol.  Did any spittle hit your screen as you typed that?
 
2014-03-28 11:57:15 AM  

sammyk: OregonVet: sammyk: Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil

I don't think 55+ in a 50 zone is hogging the left lane if you have a turn coming up.

I don't either. But please don't pretend that there is not an abundance of self important douche bags that think it's their civic duty to block traffic and set the speed for everyone else.


I only do it when I see someone weaving through traffic to get that one extra car length ahead before the next red light.  I'll leave a tantalizing amount of space in between me and the car ahead of me (a little more than a car length, what everyone 'should' leave anyway) and when I see the little lane diver revving up next to me I instantly close the gap.  Sorry pal, your little Honda shiatmobile doesn't out accelerate my V8, nice try though.
 
2014-03-28 11:57:18 AM  

Ctrl-Alt-Del: Gecko Gingrich: Almost correct. It's not because this is Fark. It's because in many jurisdictions it is the law. *Expressly* the law. Even where it's not the law, it's still the courteous and safe thing to do.

Bullshiat.  You have a citation to show that this is the law "in most places"?

The Keep Right laws I'm familiar with require you to stay in the righmost lane unless you are passing, or unless you are approaching a left turn - they do NOT require you to move out of the way of an overtaking vehicle, no matter how fast Jethro P Roadrage flashes his headlights or how close he tailgates.


After looking at the actual statutes, I see that in Florida, the law does require you to move out of the way of an overtaking vehicle if you are going ten (or more) m.p.h. slower than the posted speed limit in the leftmost lane. Still nothing about angry headlight flashing OR tailgating  by thumb-dicked rage-a-holic assholes, though.
 
2014-03-28 11:57:32 AM  
If you ask me, she was in the wrong here.  Granted, the guy overreacted and should have shown more restraint.  However, in the video you can see the right lane is clearly open for most of the video.  Why the hell didn't she move over to let him pass?  Just another case of someone thinking they are king/queen of the road and we all have to abid by their own rules.  Jerks.
 
2014-03-28 11:57:33 AM  

BizarreMan: She says on the video and articles that she's made recordings like this before which tells me that she is a passive-aggressive left lane Nazi with AW tendencies. I'm curious how many other videos she has on YouTube where drivers are being incited to road rage.


I've had people drive too slow or cut me off or whatever. It happens but it never escalates beyond that. If a violent reaction is a common occurrence for her I'm going to conclude she's probably doing something to incite it. The only constant here is her. She's a self righteous attention whore on a little vigilante crusade. Guy looked like he was enjoying the attention of being filmed and hamming it up a bit. Probably floored it once he got past her and lost control. It doesn't take much in those conditions. Sure the guy was being an annoying twunt but she's just as bad for filming it.
 
2014-03-28 11:59:15 AM  

liam76: She didn't have a turn coming up.


Are you a mind reader now? She said she did. How do you know she didn't? Even if by your judgement her turn was too far down the road she wasn't misusing the lane.
 
2014-03-28 11:59:24 AM  

R.A.Danny: petec: Patience my arse, that's incompetence.

Yet her car is unscathed.


I was talking about the Farker that can't change lanes in a mile and a half, that the dipshiat lady in the article
 
2014-03-28 12:00:00 PM  
Also can't believe this hasn't been posted yet:

i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-28 12:00:23 PM  

Ctrl-Alt-Del: Gecko Gingrich: Almost correct. It's not because this is Fark. It's because in many jurisdictions it is the law. *Expressly* the law. Even where it's not the law, it's still the courteous and safe thing to do.

Bullshiat.  You have a citation to show that this is the law "in most places"?

The Keep Right laws I'm familiar with require you to stay in the righmost lane unless you are passing, or unless you are approaching a left turn - they do NOT require you to move out of the way of an overtaking vehicle, no matter how fast Jethro P Roadrage flashes his headlights or how close he tailgates.


Do you assume flashing headlights are road rage? I'll use them if someone is driving at/under in the left lane impeding progress for a long period of time with open opportunities to move over. It seems a lot safer than passing on the right or tailgating.
 
2014-03-28 12:01:12 PM  
Too bad the dude didn't take out this coont and an oncoming left lane roadblocker as well. It'd be win-win-win.

moike: I don't get it...

I drive a big ass pickup truck, yet I seem to be able to do so without being a total self-important tailgating foamy-mouthed road-raging shiatdick.


Some people are just like that. I see them every day.  I used to be a lot more like him (although nowhere near as bad) but have calmed down in my old age. Most days I toddle along in the right lane and let the crazies fly by.
 
2014-03-28 12:03:13 PM  

justtray: tripleseven: justtray: tripleseven: lostcat: After reading the comments on this thread, I'm going to make a point of driving in the left lane, just slightly under the speed limit.


Works better.

Just so long as you realize you're at fault when an accident occurs. Don't come crying on fark about how you're paralyzed for life because some guy rear ended you while you were intentionally being an asshole to spite him/her.

You are literally the cause of much of the traffic problems in this country. Well you and all those that think like you. The best part is you make yourself out to be the victim while admitting that you're the cause.

lol.  Did any spittle hit your screen as you typed that?

Oh, looks like I struck a nerve.


Yours apparently.
 
2014-03-28 12:03:45 PM  

psilocyberguy: loaba: psilocyberguy: I watched a longer video than this on another link last night.  As usual, the Fark train assumed the lady driver was driving in the left lane just to jack Ford Truck Man off.  Earlier in the show, she wanted to let the jackass pass but she couldn't move over because there was traffic there.


So she didn't want to stay right with the slower traffic, rather she wanted to hang out in the left lane and leisurely pass 'em like that.  That's on her. If you can't stand the heat of the kitchen, the get the fark out. If you're not prepared to do what it takes to pass slower traffic, stay the fark to the right! When your intersection comes up, flip the blinker on, get over and make your turn.

The longer video only showed her showing traffic to her immediate right for just a split second, it appeared to be clogged there so assuming that was representing the situation as it was, there was no place to get into the slow lane.

If however, you feel like Ford Truck Man's behavior was okay no matter what when frankly, we can't properly assess from the video and her's was egregious, maybe you need to turn in that Crackerjack license when you turn 18.


I'm not absolving Ms. Filmypants of her behavior.  More Douchy, Less Douchy is what we have here.
 
2014-03-28 12:04:24 PM  

for good or for awesome: Roads with intersections every few hundred yards don't have fast lanes.  I'm not going to weave in and out of traffic to make my turn just so you can drive a couple miles and hour faster than me.  Even if you are a big tough guy in a truck.


They do in Florida. On two lane highways (a non-residential roadway), intersections or not, you must move to the right I you're not passing.
 
2014-03-28 12:04:36 PM  
Jeffrey Travis White, if anyone was curious about road rager.

www.baynews9.com
 
2014-03-28 12:04:59 PM  

justtray: The thing I hate about these threads is how selfish drivers will always come up with tenuous justifications for their irresponsible behavior.

The truck guy is a huge douche beyond all comprehension. I've dealt with road rage like that and it's not fun.

However, there is a good argument to be made that the 'f you i do what i want' crowd on the road is directly contributing to increased traffic across the country. If you go to Europe you notice how everyone immediately gets to the right on the road ALL THE TIME. The left lane is literally clear because people file in to the right as you're supposed to.

Look, if you're about to turn left, great. But that means you're about to turn left in the next couple hundred yards, not next few miles. It takes roughly 5 seconds to switch lanes.

The rule is very, very simple. Either catch up to the car in front of you, or get over to the right lane if there's someone directly behind you. That is the correct way to drive. Any attempt to justify not doing so is an attempt to hide a self-centered view of the world, one that not only causes everyone else inconvenience, but yourself as well due to others sharing the same narrow, ignorant worldview.


Amen.
 
2014-03-28 12:05:03 PM  
The Lakeland woman who took this  doesn't want us to use her name...
"i59.tinypic.com
 
2014-03-28 12:05:11 PM  
I am going to say, nobody is easier to troll than the Fark ProDriver squad.

Go on, tell me you're a better driver.  Please.
 
2014-03-28 12:05:49 PM  

adragontattoo: OregonVet: sammyk: Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil

I don't think 55+ in a 50 zone is hogging the left lane if you have a turn coming up.

Coming up meaning the next 1/4 mile or sometime eventually in the next 5 miles I will have to turn left so I will just stay in the left lane until then no matter what?

Before all of the self righteous blow hards arrive to proclaim that they are doing the speed limit so they don't have to move, I would like to provide the following link.  http://www.fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2006/022006/02092006/166829   In this link there is a statement from the Virginia State Police.  "Leave it up to police officers to deal with any violations they might be committing. We'll handle that," he said. "But the law still requires you to move to the right and let them pass."

That means that unless you are a LEO, you don't get to decide to enforce the law.  No!  Not yours! 


Correct. LE says this just to avoid this kind of road rage.
 
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2014-03-28 12:05:57 PM  
It says quite a bit about the Fark community when this video gets posted and everyone piles on the person filming it.
 
2014-03-28 12:06:59 PM  

psilocyberguy: If however, you feel like Ford Truck Man's behavior was okay



Reading is fun and mental... If you could only read my previous posts...

As for my "Crackerjack license", I'm getting a kick out of that.

I've not driven the stretch of road in the video, so I don't really know what it's like on any given day. What I do know is that people are funny about upcoming left-hand turns. They just seem to want to get left as soon possible and aren't really interested who's behind 'em and how fast they're going. This chick seems to fit that bill pretty well. She wanted left, so she stayed there. And that's her right. And the trucker was a dick. She's a dick too.
 
2014-03-28 12:07:29 PM  

Melvin Lovecraft: Jersey, Colorado for sure.  Probably others.

[www.coloradodot.info image 87x128]

Michigan.

[images.gasbuddy.com image 157x124]


I wonder how people turn left off of those roads.
 
2014-03-28 12:08:22 PM  

Bf+: It says quite a bit about the Fark community when this video gets posted and everyone piles on the person filming it.


Probably because two people contributes to this incident, tow people broke Florida law and only one was arrested?
 
2014-03-28 12:08:38 PM  

2KanZam: I had a great interaction with  a road rage moron awhile back:

I was coming onto the highway along a very busy entrance ramp like I do EVERY day, and this ramp turns into an off ramp in a short distance, so you must merge onto the highway quickly.

 I had 3 car lengths to merge into between cars (which is more than you usually have here) and this chick in a mustang purposefully guns it  to close the gap so that I can't merge.  I give her a WTF face and should shrug as we are staring face to face and she begins to flip me the bird... BLAAAMMO.... she rear ended the car in front of her since traffic had stopped and she was focusing on screwing me over.

Laugher. OH. EL!

...we were only within eyesight of eachother for like 50 feet so I really don't know how she could have had anything against me to pull this? I guess she was having a bad day that got even worse.

/csb


Didn't anyone tell you?  It's a race.  You can't let anyone in front of you, ever.  It's a sign of weakness.
 
2014-03-28 12:09:42 PM  
A fun experiment I run sometimes:

Drive a Prius on the middle lane of the interstate, 5-10mph above the posted limit, and there's a 50% chance that someone will get all road-ragy behind me, flashing lights, honking horns and flipping me off.

Drive my Toyota Tacoma in the left lane, at precisely the speed limit = never, ever have anyone freak out or get angry

/so far no one seems to notice or care about driving behind a Nissan LEAF.
//when riding a motorcycle, drivers always get within a few feet of the rear wheel - requiring fairly aggressive riding to maintain a safe distance
 
2014-03-28 12:10:05 PM  

OregonVet: liam76: She didn't have a turn coming up.

Are you a mind reader now? She said she did. How do you know she didn't? Even if by your judgement her turn was too far down the road she wasn't misusing the lane.


The video was two minutes, she didn't have to turn anytime soon.

And yes , she did misuse the lane. Legally she didn't ( but morally she was still being a coont) for not moving over, but when she sped up to keep him from passing she did legally.

Doesn't excuse the guy for being an asshole, but by speeding up when he was passing and videotaping made her just as much of an asshole.
 
2014-03-28 12:10:06 PM  

AirForceVet: Jeffrey Travis White, if anyone was curious about road rager.

[www.baynews9.com image 720x486]


Yep, looks like your typical meat-head redneck.  So sorry to hear about his truck.

/not really
 
2014-03-28 12:10:14 PM  

adragontattoo: Dancin_In_Anson: I wonder why everyone is in such a farking hurry to get to the next red light.

I always laugh when I am in town and someone hauls ass as soon as the light turns green.  I always make sure to applaud and congratulate them on winning the race to the red light.  I then profusely apologize for taking so long to arrive.  Best so far was the guy who "raced" me to 5 consecutive red lights.  I was very ashamed that I managed to lose to him so many times.  The cops even pulled him over to congratulate him (I assume that is why they pulled a U-turn and started up their disco lights.)


You never know, one of those times you might be fast enough to barely make the next light and then you are golden.  If I can shave 10% off my driving time by going faster that equals at least 24 hours a year I am NOT spending in my car.  If you want to drive the speed limit and spend an extra couple of MONTHS sitting in your car over the course of your life then know yourself out.
 
2014-03-28 12:11:01 PM  

OregonVet: sammyk: Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil

I don't think 55+ in a 50 zone is hogging the left lane if you have a turn coming up.


In all the time she is video taping and all the time he is passing her, she still has not turned left, then she is
hogging the left lane.  Passive aggressive biatch hating others because of her play doh bod.

"I have a turn coming up" is just a vague excuse
 
2014-03-28 12:11:01 PM  
Before any of this filming happened, if the guy driving the truck didn't ride anyone's ass, didn't go all ragey, and didn't bring this entire episode upon himself there was an opportunity for him to not be a dick.
 
2014-03-28 12:11:25 PM  

robodog: Ctrl-Alt-Del: Gecko Gingrich: Almost correct. It's not because this is Fark. It's because in many jurisdictions it is the law. *Expressly* the law. Even where it's not the law, it's still the courteous and safe thing to do.

Bullshiat.  You have a citation to show that this is the law "in most places"?

The Keep Right laws I'm familiar with require you to stay in the righmost lane unless you are passing, or unless you are approaching a left turn - they do NOT require you to move out of the way of an overtaking vehicle, no matter how fast Jethro P Roadrage flashes his headlights or how close he tailgates.

Do you assume flashing headlights are road rage? I'll use them if someone is driving at/under in the left lane impeding progress for a long period of time with open opportunities to move over. It seems a lot safer than passing on the right or tailgating.


In America, flashing lights IS roadrage. That fact drives me nuts. "How dare you try to tell me what to do" is the attitude; instantly defensive. I quit doing due to the number of psychotics I've come across. Not worth having some dude go Jeffrey Dahmer on you. Just go around them.

In Germany, it's the law. In the States, you're provoking your fellow driver. What a farked up country we are.
 
2014-03-28 12:11:54 PM  

xtech: Because People in power are Stupid: xtech: thats ok. i can always adjust my mirrors upwards so they reflect it right back at dipshiats like you.

That won't work unless you replace your entire rear windshield with a mirror.

wrong. i simply turn the middle window slightly upwards, so the light doesnt hit my eye. guess where it goes? :)

same with the rear windows. angle slightly upward and adjust til the beam is behind you with no glare.

i dont need rear view mirrors to tell me what i can learn from looking slightly left or right. plus its more fun when the jackasses start flashing lights and it does nothing to me ;)


I think you are over-estimating the power of your mirrors. In the meanwhile the brights from my halogens are illuminating your entire cab.
 
2014-03-28 12:13:01 PM  

quantum_csc: adragontattoo: Dancin_In_Anson: I wonder why everyone is in such a farking hurry to get to the next red light.

I always laugh when I am in town and someone hauls ass as soon as the light turns green.  I always make sure to applaud and congratulate them on winning the race to the red light.  I then profusely apologize for taking so long to arrive.  Best so far was the guy who "raced" me to 5 consecutive red lights.  I was very ashamed that I managed to lose to him so many times.  The cops even pulled him over to congratulate him (I assume that is why they pulled a U-turn and started up their disco lights.)

You never know, one of those times you might be fast enough to barely make the next light and then you are golden.  If I can shave 10% off my driving time by going faster endangering the lives of myself, my passengers, and others on the road, that equals at least 24 hours a year I am NOT spending in my car.  If you want to drive the speed limit and spend an extra couple of MONTHS sitting in your car over the course of your life then know yourself out.

 
2014-03-28 12:13:45 PM  

Gonz: If you're driving in the left lane, it doesn't matter how fast you're going. If the car behind you wants to go faster, that's your problem, and you'd better let them pass you or you're wrong.


Good to see you know how to correctly operate your vehicle.
 
2014-03-28 12:13:57 PM  
Nick Nostril:
Some people are just like that. I see them every day.  I used to be a lot more like him (although nowhere near as bad) but have calmed down in my old age. Most days I toddle along in the right lane and let the crazies fly by.

I used to ride my motorcycle like a complete shiathat in traffic.  But once I started getting into closed-course racing motorcycles and cars I found a distinct correlation.  The faster and more skilled I got on the track, the slower and more sedate I drove/rode on public roads.

I see it in my girlfriend.  She has not advanced driver training, yet drives her Mustang like there is going to be trophies and champagne waiting for her when she gets to work and practically bump drafts anyone in front of her if she thinks they are not going fast enough.  To the point that I've reached over and grabbed some e-brake to get her to back off at times.

I on the other hand have adopted a very "We'll get there when we get there." cruising in the right lane at the posted limit attitude.  More relaxing, far less stress.
 
2014-03-28 12:14:08 PM  

ned4spd8874: If you ask me, she was in the wrong here.  Granted, the guy overreacted and should have shown more restraint.  However, in the video you can see the right lane is clearly open for most of the video.  Why the hell didn't she move over to let him pass?


 The right lane BEHIND THEM was clear. Watch the video again and you'll see that she is directly beside a truck - you can see the tail end of it briefly at the 2 second mark. Over the course of the next minute, she passes it and a second truck in front of it. That's why she didn't just "pull over" - she was passing other vehicles


Just another case of someone thinking they are king/queen of the road and we all have to abid by their own rules.  Jerks.
 
2014-03-28 12:14:19 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: xtech: Because People in power are Stupid: xtech: thats ok. i can always adjust my mirrors upwards so they reflect it right back at dipshiats like you.

That won't work unless you replace your entire rear windshield with a mirror.

wrong. i simply turn the middle window slightly upwards, so the light doesnt hit my eye. guess where it goes? :)

same with the rear windows. angle slightly upward and adjust til the beam is behind you with no glare.

i dont need rear view mirrors to tell me what i can learn from looking slightly left or right. plus its more fun when the jackasses start flashing lights and it does nothing to me ;)

I think you are over-estimating the power of your mirrors. In the meanwhile the brights from my halogens are illuminating your entire cab.


Hey, I mean, you're not enforcing the stereotype of an asshat oversized pickup driver or anything, at all.
 
2014-03-28 12:14:54 PM  
wfla.images.worldnow.com

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-28 12:15:08 PM  

Melvin Lovecraft: My 2 cents:  The woman driver was not speeding, however, from the video, there wasn't much traffic, and she could have easily gotten over to let the truck pass.  She said she was in the left lane to turn (she can say anything she wants), but the vid is almost 2 minutes long and her turn never comes.

She may not have HAD to get over, as she apparently wasn't breaking the law (regarding staying right except to pass), but she didn't.  Why not?  Who knows.  But just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD.

The woman, while not breaking the law, still showed an utter disregard for her safety and the safety of others by willfully not letting the truck pass, and filming while driving.  She said she does this a lot, as if it's her mission to aggravate other drivers, then play victim when they take umbrage with her.  IMHO, she is just as dangerous as the guy in the truck, and her "accident" is coming.


So you're blaming her for not getting over even though every action that led to Mr. SmallPeenBigTruck wiping out was of his own doing and the outcome was completely within his control to avoid? Yes, she didn't let him over, she didn't have to. Slow traffic stay right doesn't apply on city streets, you can cruise in the left lane as long as you want to. He could have chosen to back off her bumper, he didn't. He could have chosen to pass her in a safe and responsible manner, but he doesn't. He gets in the other lane, pulls alongside her just so he can make sure she sees him flip her off, then speeds up and cuts over (no blinker) fast enough to fishtail and spin out on the wet road. Every chance he had to de-escalate the situation he chose the aggressive and irresponsible course.  How is it her fault that he's so immature that he reacts in such a way to someone driving in front of him? The only thing I can really knock her for is using her damn phone while driving.

Dumbass truck driver was in the wrong. The resulting crash was 100% on him. Stop trying to blame the person who chose not to drive like a complete roid raging maniac.
 
2014-03-28 12:15:23 PM  

Bf+: It says quite a bit about the Fark community when this video gets posted and everyone piles on the person filming it.


Meh, people are piling on both sides.  There are no good people in this story,  They both suck.
 
2014-03-28 12:15:30 PM  

liam76: OregonVet: liam76: She didn't have a turn coming up.

Are you a mind reader now? She said she did. How do you know she didn't? Even if by your judgement her turn was too far down the road she wasn't misusing the lane.

The video was two minutes, she didn't have to turn anytime soon.

And yes , she did misuse the lane. Legally she didn't ( but morally she was still being a coont) for not moving over, but when she sped up to keep him from passing she did legally.

Doesn't excuse the guy for being an asshole, but by speeding up when he was passing and videotaping made her just as much of an asshole.



That's how you know it was personal for both of them. Dude finally got around her (and she knew that's what he wanted all along) and she just had to speed up say "hi". That's what makes her a dick. His dickery is not absolved, he should have calmed the fark down and just been happy he managed to get around the coont.
 
Bf+
2014-03-28 12:16:06 PM  
StrangeQ:


Listen, I get it-- you're trolling.  Fine, whatever floats your boat.
But the thing is...you're not even trying.  It's far too blatant and obvious, and I'm sure you're aware of that.
I don't understand why you would even bother.  I only responded because I'm genuinely interested in your motive.
 
2014-03-28 12:16:07 PM  

tripleseven: I am going to say, nobody is easier to troll than the Fark ProDriver squad.

Go on, tell me you're a better driver.  Please.


Farkers will admit to being shiatty lovers before they'll admit to being shiatty drivers - and yet, by their own descriptions of their on-road behavior, most of them are.
Shiatty drivers, that is.
Well, shiatty lovers, too, but that's in other threads.
 
2014-03-28 12:16:53 PM  

MrSteve007: A fun experiment I run sometimes:

Drive a Prius on the middle lane of the interstate, 5-10mph above the posted limit, and there's a 50% chance that someone will get all road-ragy behind me, flashing lights, honking horns and flipping me off.


I usually have the opposite experience.  Pull onto the interstate and pass a Prius while accelerating to 5-10 over the limit and there is a 90% chance they will speed up to try and pass me.
 
2014-03-28 12:18:15 PM  

tripleseven: I am going to say, nobody is easier to troll than the Fark ProDriver squad.

Go on, tell me you're a better driver.  Please.


I'm a better driver.
 
2014-03-28 12:18:17 PM  

adragontattoo: Nope and I have not yet found the speed that works to do that. Anytime I talk to people about it, we all agree that the lights aren't set(synced?) correctly. Hell there is one light that I THINK has been fixed (last time I went through it, I was doing the speed limit) finally but it would turn red UNLESS you were doing 10 under the speed limit.


Rt. 234 (between Manassas and Woodbridge) gets that way a lot, where there's no real speed at which you can travel and hit green light after green light. It really does behoove you to try to speed and get through the next one, because THEN you can get through 3 or 4 more before you're stopped again.

Last time I was on 234, there were 3 different times where lights within 200 yards of each other, one would be red, the other green. And when one turned, the other would turn the other color. So essentially you're stop, start, stop again. Over and over and over. Tremendously frustrating.
 
2014-03-28 12:18:28 PM  

StrangeQ: MrSteve007: A fun experiment I run sometimes:

Drive a Prius on the middle lane of the interstate, 5-10mph above the posted limit, and there's a 50% chance that someone will get all road-ragy behind me, flashing lights, honking horns and flipping me off.

I usually have the opposite experience.  Pull onto the interstate and pass a Prius while accelerating to 5-10 over the limit and there is a 90% chance they will speed up to try and pass me.


As if it is even possible for a Prius to keep up. I laugh from half a mile in front of them
 
Bf+
2014-03-28 12:18:40 PM  

Phelon Hardtimes: Bf+: It says quite a bit about the Fark community when this video gets posted and everyone piles on the person filming it.

Meh, people are piling on both sides.  There are no good people in this story,  They both suck.



So vote Republican.
...wait, I guess that doesn't really apply here.
Nevermind.
 
2014-03-28 12:21:29 PM  

Bf+: StrangeQ:


Listen, I get it-- you're trolling.  Fine, whatever floats your boat.
But the thing is...you're not even trying.  It's far too blatant and obvious, and I'm sure you're aware of that.
I don't understand why you would even bother.  I only responded because I'm genuinely interested in your motive.


Wish I knew what you were quoting so I would know what to inquisitively raise an eyebrow at...
 
2014-03-28 12:21:49 PM  
Oh, one more point about all this:

The safest place for an aggressive driver is in front of you, the defensive driver. That way you can plan and react to the aggressive driver's moves.
 
2014-03-28 12:22:12 PM  
I don't ever have to worry about filming.  I got a dash cam.

look ma, no hands!
 
2014-03-28 12:22:30 PM  

tripleseven: Gonz: OregonVet: sammyk: Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil

I don't think 55+ in a 50 zone is hogging the left lane if you have a turn coming up.

No, no, no. This is Fark. If you're driving in the left lane, it doesn't matter how fast you're going. If the car behind you wants to go faster, that's your problem, and you'd better let them pass you or you're wrong.

Also, someone in the right lane going exactly the speed limit is a hazard to everyone else on the road. I've been told this many, many times.

The Fark ProDriver© squad should arrive soon to tell everyone that they are better drivers.


They've been here all day.
 
2014-03-28 12:22:32 PM  

StrangeQ: MrSteve007: A fun experiment I run sometimes:

Drive a Prius on the middle lane of the interstate, 5-10mph above the posted limit, and there's a 50% chance that someone will get all road-ragy behind me, flashing lights, honking horns and flipping me off.

I usually have the opposite experience.  Pull onto the interstate and pass a Prius while accelerating to 5-10 over the limit and there is a 90% chance they will speed up to try and pass me.


I like to camp in front of errant Priusi and then mash down on the accelerator (leaving them in  plume of coal dust).

/ Rolling coal! VW Turbo Diesel for the win!
// what the hell does this Check Engine Light mean anyway?
 
2014-03-28 12:22:32 PM  

Phelon Hardtimes: Bf+: It says quite a bit about the Fark community when this video gets posted and everyone piles on the person filming it.

Meh, people are piling on both sides.  There are no good people in this story,  They both suck.


Well, if there's anything these threads tell me, it's that there are as many opinions about what constitutes "good driving" as there are drivers on the  road - and they are all subjective.
That's why we have fixed, agreed upon traffic laws, and it's probably better to pretty much drive by them. At least from the point of view of one's practical self-interest.
 
2014-03-28 12:22:33 PM  

quantum_csc: adragontattoo: Dancin_In_Anson: I wonder why everyone is in such a farking hurry to get to the next red light.

I always laugh when I am in town and someone hauls ass as soon as the light turns green.  I always make sure to applaud and congratulate them on winning the race to the red light.  I then profusely apologize for taking so long to arrive.  Best so far was the guy who "raced" me to 5 consecutive red lights.  I was very ashamed that I managed to lose to him so many times.  The cops even pulled him over to congratulate him (I assume that is why they pulled a U-turn and started up their disco lights.)

You never know, one of those times you might be fast enough to barely make the next light and then you are golden.  If I can shave 10% off my driving time by going faster that equals at least 24 hours a year I am NOT spending in my car.  If you want to drive the speed limit and spend an extra couple of MONTHS sitting in your car over the course of your life then know yourself out.


As someone with a moderately heavy foot, I've never understood the superiority of that guy who drives the speed limit. "I'll see you at the next light".. Not likely. I'll make the green and you won't and that will be the last I hear from you. I don't care one way or the other usually.. Unless there's some reason I have to be speeding.

While riding with my friend who irritatingly drives less than the speed limit all the time, it takes forever to get anywhere. I could swear sometimes it takes twice as long, even though I don't drive twice as fast.

I started watching traffic patterns, and I saw that because my friend goes slow, lots of people change lanes in front of him, which puts him even further back at lights.. Lights I would have passed through on the cycle before during the green. Same deal on the highway. I watched the difference between him and another car he was following; as people merged in, they pushed my friend further back behind the car he was trying to follow. Just a little bit of lower speed greatly increases trip time when traffic is bad.
 
2014-03-28 12:23:12 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: When performing road rage from a truck -it's best to do it at night. That way you can flick on your brights while tailgating.


and they retaliate with this pointed out their window. just a quick flick of the trigger
images2.opticsplanet.com
 
2014-03-28 12:23:17 PM  

loaba: psilocyberguy: If however, you feel like Ford Truck Man's behavior was okay


Reading is fun and mental... If you could only read my previous posts...

As for my "Crackerjack license", I'm getting a kick out of that.

I've not driven the stretch of road in the video, so I don't really know what it's like on any given day. What I do know is that people are funny about upcoming left-hand turns. They just seem to want to get left as soon possible and aren't really interested who's behind 'em and how fast they're going. This chick seems to fit that bill pretty well. She wanted left, so she stayed there. And that's her right. And the trucker was a dick. She's a dick too.


The crackerjack line was in my head and wanted a reason to use it.  I read your previous posts but couldn't resist the temptation.  Sorry.  Friends?
 
2014-03-28 12:23:31 PM  

Dog Welder: For those who missed it, there is no "passing lane" on this road.  She was planning on making a left turn so getting over into the right lane would not have been the proper move.


Was her turn signal on?   No.  Stay the eff to the right when men are talking.
 
2014-03-28 12:23:46 PM  

SurfaceTension: Oh, one more point about all this:

The safest place for an aggressive driver is in front of you, the defensive driver. That way you can plan and react to the aggressive driver's moves.


Amen, Brother - you are quoting directly from my personal road gospel.
 
2014-03-28 12:23:53 PM  

R.A.Danny: StrangeQ: MrSteve007: A fun experiment I run sometimes:

Drive a Prius on the middle lane of the interstate, 5-10mph above the posted limit, and there's a 50% chance that someone will get all road-ragy behind me, flashing lights, honking horns and flipping me off.

I usually have the opposite experience.  Pull onto the interstate and pass a Prius while accelerating to 5-10 over the limit and there is a 90% chance they will speed up to try and pass me.

As if it is even possible for a Prius to keep up. I laugh from half a mile in front of them


They can move if they want to.  I saw one once going easily 95+ weaving through lanes on the highway.  Thought he was trying to actually achieve liftoff with his little airplane wing car.
 
2014-03-28 12:26:13 PM  

moike: I don't get it...

I drive a big ass pickup truck, yet I seem to be able to do so without being a total self-important tailgating foamy-mouthed road-raging shiatdick.

I must be doing something wrong.


HEY!  We're you the asshole who kept politely minding his own business in front of me at the stoplight this morning?

YOU SUCK!
 
2014-03-28 12:26:28 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: xtech: Because People in power are Stupid: xtech: thats ok. i can always adjust my mirrors upwards so they reflect it right back at dipshiats like you.

That won't work unless you replace your entire rear windshield with a mirror.

wrong. i simply turn the middle window slightly upwards, so the light doesnt hit my eye. guess where it goes? :)

same with the rear windows. angle slightly upward and adjust til the beam is behind you with no glare.

i dont need rear view mirrors to tell me what i can learn from looking slightly left or right. plus its more fun when the jackasses start flashing lights and it does nothing to me ;)

I think you are over-estimating the power of your mirrors. In the meanwhile the brights from my halogens are illuminating your entire cab.


doesnt matter, illuminate all you want. the glare isnt in my eye and is reflected back at you, which is all i care about.

whether or not it causes discomfort is irrelevant.
 
2014-03-28 12:27:07 PM  

StrangeQ: R.A.Danny: StrangeQ: MrSteve007: A fun experiment I run sometimes:

Drive a Prius on the middle lane of the interstate, 5-10mph above the posted limit, and there's a 50% chance that someone will get all road-ragy behind me, flashing lights, honking horns and flipping me off.

I usually have the opposite experience.  Pull onto the interstate and pass a Prius while accelerating to 5-10 over the limit and there is a 90% chance they will speed up to try and pass me.

As if it is even possible for a Prius to keep up. I laugh from half a mile in front of them

They can move if they want to.  I saw one once going easily 95+ weaving through lanes on the highway.  Thought he was trying to actually achieve liftoff with his little airplane wing car.


But when you measure your 0-60 with a calendar... Not that I am driving a racecar, but they just can't accelerate, and acceleration is where it is at in traffic.
 
2014-03-28 12:28:31 PM  
Ah, truly what really matters and is worth getting worked up over in life (and on the internet).
 
2014-03-28 12:28:32 PM  

Cerebral Ballsy: quantum_csc: adragontattoo: Dancin_In_Anson: I wonder why everyone is in such a farking hurry to get to the next red light.

I always laugh when I am in town and someone hauls ass as soon as the light turns green.  I always make sure to applaud and congratulate them on winning the race to the red light.  I then profusely apologize for taking so long to arrive.  Best so far was the guy who "raced" me to 5 consecutive red lights.  I was very ashamed that I managed to lose to him so many times.  The cops even pulled him over to congratulate him (I assume that is why they pulled a U-turn and started up their disco lights.)

You never know, one of those times you might be fast enough to barely make the next light and then you are golden.  If I can shave 10% off my driving time by going faster that equals at least 24 hours a year I am NOT spending in my car.  If you want to drive the speed limit and spend an extra couple of MONTHS sitting in your car over the course of your life then know yourself out.

As someone with a moderately heavy foot, I've never understood the superiority of that guy who drives the speed limit. "I'll see you at the next light".. Not likely. I'll make the green and you won't and that will be the last I hear from you. I don't care one way or the other usually.. Unless there's some reason I have to be speeding.

While riding with my friend who irritatingly drives less than the speed limit all the time, it takes forever to get anywhere. I could swear sometimes it takes twice as long, even though I don't drive twice as fast.

I started watching traffic patterns, and I saw that because my friend goes slow, lots of people change lanes in front of him, which puts him even further back at lights.. Lights I would have passed through on the cycle before during the green. Same deal on the highway. I watched the difference between him and another car he was following; as people merged in, they pushed my friend further back behind the car he was trying ...


That's what all those "5mph will only get you there 30 seconds faster!" PSAs fail to take into account.  If I make the light before it goes red, that saves 1-2 minutes of sitting going nowhere and the now quarter mile more of cars between me and my destination.  Multiply that by however many lights are between you and where you're headed and it starts to add up.
 
2014-03-28 12:28:57 PM  

whatsupchuck: If you're in that much of a goddamn rush to get where you're headed, leave five minutes earlier.  There are going to be other cars on the road and you can't read the minds of those drivers.  Some of them are going to be annoying to you because they are searching for a location or they are distracted or they are stupid.  Get over it, and know that your sense of driving skill superiority is thoroughly voided when you drive like a jackass in retaliation.


Fark is no place that for that kind of logical discussion.
 
2014-03-28 12:29:25 PM  
Both of these people should have their licenses permanently revoked. The pickup guy for the road rage idiocy obviously, and the person in the car for taking a cell phone video while driving. Both showed they completely lack the judgement required to operate a vehicle.
 
2014-03-28 12:29:35 PM  

jso2897: Well, technically, it is - but it's not good policy.


Which was my real point in that thread. A Farker commented described the (legal) things he would do, but instead of doing them because that's the law he stated that he did them specifically to piss off other drivers. I called him a jackass. I haven't changed my mind. A law abiding jackass is still a jackass. However, that was not the opinion of quite a few other people in that thread.
 
2014-03-28 12:29:50 PM  

Cerebral Ballsy: quantum_csc: adragontattoo: Dancin_In_Anson: I wonder why everyone is in such a farking hurry to get to the next red light.

I always laugh when I am in town and someone hauls ass as soon as the light turns green.  I always make sure to applaud and congratulate them on winning the race to the red light.  I then profusely apologize for taking so long to arrive.  Best so far was the guy who "raced" me to 5 consecutive red lights.  I was very ashamed that I managed to lose to him so many times.  The cops even pulled him over to congratulate him (I assume that is why they pulled a U-turn and started up their disco lights.)

You never know, one of those times you might be fast enough to barely make the next light and then you are golden.  If I can shave 10% off my driving time by going faster that equals at least 24 hours a year I am NOT spending in my car.  If you want to drive the speed limit and spend an extra couple of MONTHS sitting in your car over the course of your life then know yourself out.

As someone with a moderately heavy foot, I've never understood the superiority of that guy who drives the speed limit. "I'll see you at the next light".. Not likely. I'll make the green and you won't and that will be the last I hear from you. I don't care one way or the other usually.. Unless there's some reason I have to be speeding.

While riding with my friend who irritatingly drives less than the speed limit all the time, it takes forever to get anywhere. I could swear sometimes it takes twice as long, even though I don't drive twice as fast.

I started watching traffic patterns, and I saw that because my friend goes slow, lots of people change lanes in front of him, which puts him even further back at lights.. Lights I would have passed through on the cycle before during the green. Same deal on the highway. I watched the difference between him and another car he was following; as people merged in, they pushed my friend further back behind the car he was trying ...



As a heavy-foot driver, I can tell you that you're pretty well wrong. If you and your buddy took seperate cars, he's probably only 2 or 3 minutes behind you. But you do get there first.
 
2014-03-28 12:30:04 PM  

BEER_ME_in_CT: GET OUT OF THE FAST LANE you tubby $%#@. And, YOU OWE ME A NEW TRUCK lol.


there is no "fast lane" on surface streets, you cretin.
 
2014-03-28 12:30:16 PM  
i.dailymail.co.ukimg.fark.net


CSI can't keep their male leads for shiat.
 
2014-03-28 12:30:48 PM  

xtech: Because People in power are Stupid: When performing road rage from a truck -it's best to do it at night. That way you can flick on your brights while tailgating.

thats ok. i can always adjust my mirrors upwards so they reflect it right back at dipshiats like you.

adragontattoo: OregonVet: sammyk: Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil

I don't think 55+ in a 50 zone is hogging the left lane if you have a turn coming up.

Coming up meaning the next 1/4 mile or sometime eventually in the next 5 miles I will have to turn left so I will just stay in the left lane until then no matter what?

Before all of the self righteous blow hards arrive to proclaim that they are doing the speed limit so they don't have to move, I would like to provide the following link.  http://www.fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2006/022006/02092006/166829   In this link there is a statement from the Virginia State Police.  "Leave it up to police officers to deal with any violations they might be committing. We'll handle that," he said. "But the law still requires you to move to the right and let them pass."

That means that unless you are a LEO, you don't get to decide to enforce the law.  No!  Not yours!  [3.bp.blogspot.com image 850x494]

actually, ill do whatever the fark i want to do. you arent the cops and cant say shiat as to whether or not i can go the speed limit in the left lane. it is a SPEED LIMIT for a reason, but jackasses like you seem to forget that.

sammyk: OregonVet: sammyk: I don't either.Good, because another story on the news this morning showed the part where she pointed the camera at her dash proving it.

But please don't pretend that there is not an abundance of self important douche bags that think it's their civic duty to block traffic and set the speed for everyone else.

Sure there is. But this isn't relevant here.

Yes it is. She was impeding traffic in the left lane causing a potentially dangerous situation. She made it worse being a dumbass with her cell phone. it c ...


Actually Dipshiat, I quoted an article with a VERBATIM statement from a Va. State Police Officer stating GTFO of the left lane.  If you want to run your mouth and act all high and mighty, at least learn to READ.

Besides, the law that you are choosing to selectively obey states that if a driver signals their intent to pass you (lights or horn) then you must move over as soon as safely possible, EVEN IF YOU ARE AT THE SPEED LIMIT ALREADY.  You aren't a cop, you don't get to enforce the law!  If you are a cop, move over and then pull the speeder over!
 
2014-03-28 12:33:36 PM  

adragontattoo: Actually Dipshiat


You're getting angry.
 
2014-03-28 12:33:40 PM  

tillerman35: This whole "the left lane is reserved" idiocy has gone too far.  There's just no damn reason for it in the first place.  And because of it, you have an entire lane of travel that's basically wasted space.  Plus, the right-hand lane gets beat to hell, and it makes merging onto the highway (and being on the highway being merged onto) a pain in the ass.  It was a cute experiment, but frankly it's over.  It hasn't made people more courteous or reduced a single commuter's drive time.  All it's done is provide a bunch of whiny rednecks with a reason to get all road-ragey.  The supposed reason ("it's skeeery to pass on the right!") is moronic at best.  If you're concerned about that issue, then educate people on how to use turn signals and side mirrors.  Don't stop using an entire lane of travel because idiots can't check their effing blind spot.

(I don't travel in the left lane- the law's the law, after all.  But it still pisses me off to see an entire highway with only half the road used, and that half composed of potholes and patches.)


This isn't very complicated. The left lane is used for passing AND for faster moving vehicles. Common-sense should dictate that if you have someone wanting to go faster than you, no matter what the speed, let them pass. In instances that lane may be used for turning, don't wait to the last farking second to get into the left-lane and make sure if it is a divided highway, to not have your tail-end sticking out. If the intersection is congested and you can take the next turn and easily get to your destination, stop being a goob and do that. In most cases, it is easier to make a U-Turn when no cars are coming than it is to try to cut across a sea of cars (and safer).

When I travel longer distances, for the majority of the trip I am in the left lane because I drive fast. When someone comes up behind me, I let them pass and then return back into the lane. Helpful tip when exiting and entering, you probably don't have to get over all the way immediately. Use some common sense and only merged when needed upon entering, this will allow traffic to move quicker. If you are exiting, plan in advanced at least 1 exit away and get into the lane in preparation to exit.

The people who complain and talk about the law one way or the other aren't the brightest. When driving, defensive driving is extremely important, this means that you might be breaking a written law, however by doing so it is safer for everyone on the road. As a result, I have never been in a car accident because I am aware of my surroundings and understand that there will always be douchebags out there and ones that tail-gate and drive faster than I, even when I am driving 10-15 mph over the limit already.
 
2014-03-28 12:34:12 PM  

BizarreMan: I'm not entirely sure who the jackass is in this particular scenario.

Not to excuse his actions but:

She claims that the road conditions are wet and slick so she doesn't want to speed.  Given the results of speeding and swerving being a crash, she may be correct.

There was apparently enough distance/time for her to get far enough past the car she was passing for him to pass them, cut to the right lane, and then pass her.  Plenty of time for her to get over, let him by, and then move back over to the left lane for her turn.

If it's so dangerous to be on the wet roads, taking care not to wreck.  It should be too dangerous for her to be taking one hand off the wheel and grab her cell phone.  At which point she then finds the app, and aims the phone in his general direction.  Even if she wasn't watching what was being recorded while driving.  That isn't safe driving.  It's damn dangerous.  If the conditions are so bad.

She says on the video and articles that she's made recordings like this before which tells me that she is a passive-aggressive left lane Nazi with AW tendencies.  I'm curious how many other videos she has on YouTube where drivers are being incited to road rage.


Except the "slower traffic keep right" and passing rules you refer to only apply to highways. On multi-lane boulevards with intersections, there is no such thing as a passing lane. You drive in the lane that corrosponds to the direction you plan to turn, even if that turn is a mile down the road.

The douche in the black pickup got what he deserved. Owning an over-sized penis substitute.. err I mean big pickup truck .. does not give you the right to ignore speed limits and bully the drivers in front of you.
 
2014-03-28 12:35:06 PM  

Noticeably F.A.T.: jso2897: Well, technically, it is - but it's not good policy.

Which was my real point in that thread. A Farker commented described the (legal) things he would do, but instead of doing them because that's the law he stated that he did them specifically to piss off other drivers. I called him a jackass. I haven't changed my mind. A law abiding jackass is still a jackass. However, that was not the opinion of quite a few other people in that thread.


I don't have much problem obeying the law, and staying out of the way of crappy, aggressive drivers. The two paradigms actually complement each other - especially if your No. 1 priority is safety and peace of mind when on the road. And mine is.
The way I look at it, if I anger another driver, I have failed. If I actually do something wrong, and his anger is justified, the failure is obvious. If i haven't done anything wrong, I have failed to detect his psychotic nature and reckless attitude soon enough to have avoided interfacing with him. It's become a pretty rare event for me.
 
2014-03-28 12:36:01 PM  

R.A.Danny: But when you measure your 0-60 with a calendar... Not that I am driving a racecar, but they just can't accelerate, and acceleration is where it is at in traffic.

Fun fact: Quarter mile (with a factory A-code 289 V8);  17.3 seconds
ford-mustang.classicsportscars.eu

2010 model and newer, quarter mile; 17.3 seconds
www.greenwerkspro.com
 
2014-03-28 12:36:43 PM  
In Northern Illinois 10-15 over is kind of the defacto speed limit that most people drive. Of course you are going to catch up on soccer moms and old people doing the actual speed limit. Of course it can be frustrating. Getting whipped up into a lather and crashing your own truck though is just idiocy. This guy isn't just a bad driver, he sucks at life.
 
2014-03-28 12:37:16 PM  

sammyk: BizarreMan: I'm not entirely sure who the jackass is in this particular scenario.

Not to excuse his actions but:

She claims that the road conditions are wet and slick so she doesn't want to speed.  Given the results of speeding and swerving being a crash, she may be correct.

There was apparently enough distance/time for her to get far enough past the car she was passing for him to pass them, cut to the right lane, and then pass her.  Plenty of time for her to get over, let him by, and then move back over to the left lane for her turn.

If it's so dangerous to be on the wet roads, taking care not to wreck.  It should be too dangerous for her to be taking one hand off the wheel and grab her cell phone.  At which point she then finds the app, and aims the phone in his general direction.  Even if she wasn't watching what was being recorded while driving.  That isn't safe driving.  It's damn dangerous.  If the conditions are so bad.

She says on the video and articles that she's made recordings like this before which tells me that she is a passive-aggressive left lane Nazi with AW tendencies.  I'm curious how many other videos she has on YouTube where drivers are being incited to road rage.

Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil but I don't taunt them and do stupid crap like wrecking my car. Then again I drive a SRT8 so blowing them up with that load as hell exhaust is kind of fun.

If LE actually enforced 'slower traffic keep right' we could fix a few traffic problems in tis country.


"Slower Traffic Keep Right" does not apply to boulevards with intersections. It only applies to highways with on/off ramps.
 
2014-03-28 12:37:18 PM  

xalres: Melvin Lovecraft: My 2 cents:  The woman driver was not speeding, however, from the video, there wasn't much traffic, and she could have easily gotten over to let the truck pass.  She said she was in the left lane to turn (she can say anything she wants), but the vid is almost 2 minutes long and her turn never comes.

She may not have HAD to get over, as she apparently wasn't breaking the law (regarding staying right except to pass), but she didn't.  Why not?  Who knows.  But just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD.

The woman, while not breaking the law, still showed an utter disregard for her safety and the safety of others by willfully not letting the truck pass, and filming while driving.  She said she does this a lot, as if it's her mission to aggravate other drivers, then play victim when they take umbrage with her.  IMHO, she is just as dangerous as the guy in the truck, and her "accident" is coming.

So you're blaming her for not getting over even though every action that led to Mr. SmallPeenBigTruck wiping out was of his own doing and the outcome was completely within his control to avoid? Yes, she didn't let him over, she didn't have to. Slow traffic stay right doesn't apply on city streets, you can cruise in the left lane as long as you want to. He could have chosen to back off her bumper, he didn't. He could have chosen to pass her in a safe and responsible manner, but he doesn't. He gets in the other lane, pulls alongside her just so he can make sure she sees him flip her off, then speeds up and cuts over (no blinker) fast enough to fishtail and spin out on the wet road. Every chance he had to de-escalate the situation he chose the aggressive and irresponsible course.  How is it her fault that he's so immature that he reacts in such a way to someone driving in front of him? The only thing I can really knock her for is using her damn phone while driving.

Dumbass truck driver was in the wrong. The resulting crash was 100% on him. Stop t ...


Nowhere in my post did I say she was at fault for the truck crashing.  I simply pointed out that she could have let him pass.
 
2014-03-28 12:37:29 PM  

FlashHarry: BEER_ME_in_CT: GET OUT OF THE FAST LANE you tubby $%#@. And, YOU OWE ME A NEW TRUCK lol.

there is no "fast lane" on surface streets, you cretin.


Okay - fair point. Despite that, common knowlege is to stay right on a 2-lane road. It's the smart thing to do. Through-traffic goes left, slow traffic stays right. Merging traffic should stay right until their intersection comes up.
 
2014-03-28 12:38:34 PM  

FlashHarry: BEER_ME_in_CT: GET OUT OF THE FAST LANE you tubby $%#@. And, YOU OWE ME A NEW TRUCK lol.

there is no "fast lane" on surface streets, you cretin.


No fast lane for you, citizen, without one of these.

 www.bubblews.com
 
2014-03-28 12:38:41 PM  

MrSteve007: R.A.Danny: But when you measure your 0-60 with a calendar... Not that I am driving a racecar, but they just can't accelerate, and acceleration is where it is at in traffic.
Fun fact: Quarter mile (with a factory A-code 289 V8);  17.3 seconds
[ford-mustang.classicsportscars.eu image 850x379]

2010 model and newer, quarter mile; 17.3 seconds
[www.greenwerkspro.com image 750x500]


Ha!

2012 Ford Focus SEL Sedan (Auto)    0-60 mph 7.5   Quarter Mile 16.1

I'm the one driving the penis extender.
 
2014-03-28 12:38:50 PM  

jso2897: Phelon Hardtimes: Bf+: It says quite a bit about the Fark community when this video gets posted and everyone piles on the person filming it.

Meh, people are piling on both sides.  There are no good people in this story,  They both suck.

Well, if there's anything these threads tell me, it's that there are as many opinions about what constitutes "good driving" as there are drivers on the  road - and they are all subjective.
That's why we have fixed, agreed upon traffic laws, and it's probably better to pretty much drive by them. At least from the point of view of one's practical self-interest.


Oh, I agree.  Age has calmed me down significantly on the road.  Still, the basic concept of driving with others on the road is really simple.  Get over to the right if someone is going faster than you and keep some distance between you and aggressive drivers/ragers.  Don't taunt them that's just bad news.
 
2014-03-28 12:40:46 PM  

petec: lack of warmth: Dog Welder: For those who missed it, there is no "passing lane" on this road.  She was planning on making a left turn so getting over into the right lane would not have been the proper move.

Also happy to see a road-raging, tailgating douche get what's coming to him, and glad he didn't hit other vehicles in the process.

I second this.  It is simply a four lane road, not an interstate.  There is a five lane road that I take to work that if I'm not in the lane I need 1.5 miles away from my turn, I'm not making my turn.  And I still get people riding my butt when I'm already stuck behind someone else.  I hope he stands as an example to others that if you don't have patience, you don't have license.

/I do wonder what this guy's Fark handle is though

If you can't manage to change lanes in a minute and a half (at 60 mph, 3 minutes at 30mph) you're the one who should be without a license. Patience my arse, that's incompetence.


Have you ever driven in Maryland? Folks here will deliberately block you from merging or switching lanes, not because there's any advantage to them, but just because they deliberately enjoy being assholes about it. There are a lot of aggressive jerks out there, and it's becoming increasingly dangerous when your sort of attitude is tolerated.
 
2014-03-28 12:40:51 PM  

StrangeQ: Cerebral Ballsy: quantum_csc: adragontattoo: Dancin_In_Anson: I wonder why everyone is in such a farking hurry to get to the next red light.

I always laugh when I am in town and someone hauls ass as soon as the light turns green.  I always make sure to applaud and congratulate them on winning the race to the red light.  I then profusely apologize for taking so long to arrive.  Best so far was the guy who "raced" me to 5 consecutive red lights.  I was very ashamed that I managed to lose to him so many times.  The cops even pulled him over to congratulate him (I assume that is why they pulled a U-turn and started up their disco lights.)

You never know, one of those times you might be fast enough to barely make the next light and then you are golden.  If I can shave 10% off my driving time by going faster that equals at least 24 hours a year I am NOT spending in my car.  If you want to drive the speed limit and spend an extra couple of MONTHS sitting in your car over the course of your life then know yourself out.

As someone with a moderately heavy foot, I've never understood the superiority of that guy who drives the speed limit. "I'll see you at the next light".. Not likely. I'll make the green and you won't and that will be the last I hear from you. I don't care one way or the other usually.. Unless there's some reason I have to be speeding.

While riding with my friend who irritatingly drives less than the speed limit all the time, it takes forever to get anywhere. I could swear sometimes it takes twice as long, even though I don't drive twice as fast.

I started watching traffic patterns, and I saw that because my friend goes slow, lots of people change lanes in front of him, which puts him even further back at lights.. Lights I would have passed through on the cycle before during the green. Same deal on the highway. I watched the difference between him and another car he was following; as people merged in, they pushed my friend further back behind the car he w ...


Hey, yeah, why not drive like the pre-agree traffic control devices don't exist.  Those only apply to morons.
 
Bf+
2014-03-28 12:41:33 PM  

R.A.Danny: adragontattoo: Actually Dipshiat

You're getting angry.


CAPSROADRAGE!!1!
 
2014-03-28 12:41:57 PM  

Fade2black: Because taking video while you're illegally in the left lane absolves her of all blame (if you're not passing you're impeding). fark this biatch.


sammyk: OregonVet: sammyk: Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil

I don't think 55+ in a 50 zone is hogging the left lane if you have a turn coming up.

I don't either. But please don't pretend that there is not an abundance of self important douche bags that think it's their civic duty to block traffic and set the speed for everyone else.


And this. Lots of passive aggressive narcissistic assholes out there that feel it's their duty to slow down anyone that is going faster then they are. As the video proves, this creates just as much road rage as the speeding dickhead.

/Aggressive driver, but moves to the right for faster cars.


Do I really need to point out yet again that this incident was not on a highway, but on a multi-lane city street? You know, streets that do NOT have a passing lane! There is no such thing as a "lane hog" when they are driving the speed limit on a city street.
 
2014-03-28 12:43:10 PM  

SurfaceTension: adragontattoo: Nope and I have not yet found the speed that works to do that. Anytime I talk to people about it, we all agree that the lights aren't set(synced?) correctly. Hell there is one light that I THINK has been fixed (last time I went through it, I was doing the speed limit) finally but it would turn red UNLESS you were doing 10 under the speed limit.

Rt. 234 (between Manassas and Woodbridge) gets that way a lot, where there's no real speed at which you can travel and hit green light after green light. It really does behoove you to try to speed and get through the next one, because THEN you can get through 3 or 4 more before you're stopped again.

Last time I was on 234, there were 3 different times where lights within 200 yards of each other, one would be red, the other green. And when one turned, the other would turn the other color. So essentially you're stop, start, stop again. Over and over and over. Tremendously frustrating.


Oh believe me, if I can get into the intersection on yellow, I will.  I just won't drive like I am participating in NHRA in order to make a light.  I used to see if I could get to the "right" speed in order to not have to play the three peddle shuffle constantly when I was sitting on 7/66/495.  After over 80k miles in about 2-2.5 years, I decided that coasting was more fun than spinning tire/torching clutch to try to make it through one more light than you.
 
2014-03-28 12:45:06 PM  

Bf+: It says quite a bit about the Fark community when this video gets posted and everyone piles on the person filming it.


She's a coont. I'm surprised anyone is defending her.
 
2014-03-28 12:45:11 PM  
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2014-03-28 12:45:22 PM  

R.A.Danny: adragontattoo: Actually Dipshiat

You're getting angry.


s-ak.buzzfed.com
 
2014-03-28 12:46:09 PM  

tillerman35: This whole "the left lane is reserved" idiocy has gone too far.  There's just no damn reason for it in the first place.  And because of it, you have an entire lane of travel that's basically wasted space.


Actually there is reason for it. Because almost every car on the road in the US is left-hand drive, it is much easier and safer to pass on the left by weaving over slightly to see what might be up ahead than the much more dangerous pass on the right, in which you basically have to swing the entire car over before you can see what's ahead.

This is why people driving slower in the left hand lane ARE a safety hazard.
 
2014-03-28 12:46:18 PM  

Loreweaver: Fade2black: Because taking video while you're illegally in the left lane absolves her of all blame (if you're not passing you're impeding). fark this biatch.


sammyk: OregonVet: sammyk: Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil

I don't think 55+ in a 50 zone is hogging the left lane if you have a turn coming up.

I don't either. But please don't pretend that there is not an abundance of self important douche bags that think it's their civic duty to block traffic and set the speed for everyone else.


And this. Lots of passive aggressive narcissistic assholes out there that feel it's their duty to slow down anyone that is going faster then they are. As the video proves, this creates just as much road rage as the speeding dickhead.

/Aggressive driver, but moves to the right for faster cars.

Do I really need to point out yet again that this incident was not on a highway, but on a multi-lane city street? You know, streets that do NOT have a passing lane! There is no such thing as a "lane hog" when they are driving the speed limit on a city street.


And you're wrong. Two cars traveling side-by-side on a surface street, whilst keeping traffic behind them at bay, are in fact hogging the road. The man on the left needs to speed up and move to the right, thereby alowing traffice to move past.
 
2014-03-28 12:46:44 PM  

Loreweaver: Fade2black: Because taking video while you're illegally in the left lane absolves her of all blame (if you're not passing you're impeding). fark this biatch.


sammyk: OregonVet: sammyk: Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil

I don't think 55+ in a 50 zone is hogging the left lane if you have a turn coming up.

I don't either. But please don't pretend that there is not an abundance of self important douche bags that think it's their civic duty to block traffic and set the speed for everyone else.


And this. Lots of passive aggressive narcissistic assholes out there that feel it's their duty to slow down anyone that is going faster then they are. As the video proves, this creates just as much road rage as the speeding dickhead.

/Aggressive driver, but moves to the right for faster cars.

Do I really need to point out yet again that this incident was not on a highway, but on a multi-lane city street? You know, streets that do NOT have a passing lane! There is no such thing as a "lane hog" when they are driving the speed limit on a city street.


It was on a highway, dumbass
 
2014-03-28 12:47:00 PM  

adragontattoo: Actually Dipshiat, I quoted an article with a VERBATIM statement from a Va. State Police Officer stating GTFO of the left lane.  If you want to run your mouth and act all high and mighty, at least learn to READ.



too bad im not in VA and those laws dont apply to me. 

btw, you sound mad. tell us how you really feel.
 
2014-03-28 12:48:16 PM  

duffblue: Gonz: OregonVet: sammyk: Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil

I don't think 55+ in a 50 zone is hogging the left lane if you have a turn coming up.

No, no, no. This is Fark. If you're driving in the left lane, it doesn't matter how fast you're going. If the car behind you wants to go faster, that's your problem, and you'd better let them pass you or you're wrong.

Also, someone in the right lane going exactly the speed limit is a hazard to everyone else on the road. I've been told this many, many times.

Since the law is to yield to faster traffic in most states, you have to be a special kind of stupid to do what the driver behind the camera does.


Those laws only apply on a highway. They do not apply within 500 feet of an intersection. EVER.
 
2014-03-28 12:48:36 PM  

Loreweaver: Except the "slower traffic keep right" and passing rules you refer to only apply to highways


Perhaps you could enlighten us to the code that says this.
 
2014-03-28 12:49:16 PM  
When I hit the road, the only expectation I have, or have any right to have, is that the obey the traffic laws. That they adhere to my ideas of what constitutes "good driving" (a rather subjective concept, at best) is simply not a reasonable expectation. hell - they don't even obey the laws, half the time.
 
2014-03-28 12:49:45 PM  

Mad Scientist: Drivers of BMWs and full-sized pickups: biggest assholes in the world.

/FSM help us if BMW ever makes a pickup


This. From my observation (in Dallas).
 
2014-03-28 12:49:48 PM  

moike: I don't get it...

I drive a big ass pickup truck, yet I seem to be able to do so without being a total self-important tailgating foamy-mouthed road-raging shiatdick.

I must be doing something wrong.


You must've gotten the non-Truck Nutz model...those are for Nancy-ass Nancies...

And since we're sharing stories:

Part of my morning commute goes down a two-lane residential road (30 MPH); the lane widens at one point, big enough for two cars to fit side-by-side but it's tight (not to mention, still striped as a single lane); most drivers stay as far left as possible on this road because of all the potholes by the shoulder, and almost every day for the past year or so I'd see the same white-trash hambeast pull to the right and gun down this vacated space at twice the speed limit to gain a few extra car lengths, then force her way back into traffic when the lane narrowed back down at a curve about half a mile ahead.  I call her "Barb", I have no idea who the hell she is but she had this jacked-up blue Colorado with redneck barbed-wire pinstriping tape all the way around.

She was pulling this stunt one morning last December, flying through a half-foot of snow that had accumulated on the shoulder when she got loose trying to bully her way back into traffic, clipped a city plow truck which spun her around and put her in the oncoming lane where she got T-boned on the passenger's side by a 1-ton Ram (which also had a plow on it).  That put a stop to it for a couple months, but now that the weather's getting warmer I see her doing the same crap in the silver Frontier she drives now...hopefully next time an even bigger truck T-bones her stupid ass on the other side...
 
2014-03-28 12:51:16 PM  

adragontattoo: SurfaceTension: adragontattoo: Nope and I have not yet found the speed that works to do that. Anytime I talk to people about it, we all agree that the lights aren't set(synced?) correctly. Hell there is one light that I THINK has been fixed (last time I went through it, I was doing the speed limit) finally but it would turn red UNLESS you were doing 10 under the speed limit.

Rt. 234 (between Manassas and Woodbridge) gets that way a lot, where there's no real speed at which you can travel and hit green light after green light. It really does behoove you to try to speed and get through the next one, because THEN you can get through 3 or 4 more before you're stopped again.

Last time I was on 234, there were 3 different times where lights within 200 yards of each other, one would be red, the other green. And when one turned, the other would turn the other color. So essentially you're stop, start, stop again. Over and over and over. Tremendously frustrating.

Oh believe me, if I can get into the intersection on yellow, I will.  I just won't drive like I am participating in NHRA in order to make a light.  I used to see if I could get to the "right" speed in order to not have to play the three peddle shuffle constantly when I was sitting on 7/66/495.  After over 80k miles in about 2-2.5 years, I decided that coasting was more fun than spinning tire/torching clutch to try to make it through one more light than you.


I think we both can agree that the light sequencing in NoVA is ridiculously farked up. I've driven in a lot of metro areas around the country and none of them basically punish you for driving the way NoVA wants to. There are days it takes me 20 minutes to go 5 miles in uncongested traffic because the sequencing was so bad.

And don't get me started on how much more screwed up those stoplight triggers that emergency vehicles have make the sequencing. UGH!
 
2014-03-28 12:51:42 PM  

tripleseven: I am going to say, nobody is easier to troll than the Fark ProDriver squad.

Go on, tell me you're a better driver.  Please.


I'm a better driver.
 
2014-03-28 12:53:08 PM  

bikerbob59: tripleseven: I am going to say, nobody is easier to troll than the Fark ProDriver squad.

Go on, tell me you're a better driver.  Please.

I'm a better driver.


Than whom?
 
2014-03-28 12:54:12 PM  

OregonVet: duffblue: Since the law is to yield to faster traffic in most states, you have to be a special kind of stupid to do what the driver behind the camera does.

They aren't on the freeway, they're in town in a reduced speed zone  (50)... IANAL, but I don't think that law applies there.


In Washington State the "Keep Right Except to Pass" law actually applies to every single roadway that has more than one lane travelling in the same direction. It's not restricted to freeways.

Don't know about Florida or where you live.
 
2014-03-28 12:54:58 PM  

SurfaceTension: adragontattoo: SurfaceTension: adragontattoo: Nope and I have not yet found the speed that works to do that. Anytime I talk to people about it, we all agree that the lights aren't set(synced?) correctly. Hell there is one light that I THINK has been fixed (last time I went through it, I was doing the speed limit) finally but it would turn red UNLESS you were doing 10 under the speed limit.

Rt. 234 (between Manassas and Woodbridge) gets that way a lot, where there's no real speed at which you can travel and hit green light after green light. It really does behoove you to try to speed and get through the next one, because THEN you can get through 3 or 4 more before you're stopped again.

Last time I was on 234, there were 3 different times where lights within 200 yards of each other, one would be red, the other green. And when one turned, the other would turn the other color. So essentially you're stop, start, stop again. Over and over and over. Tremendously frustrating.

Oh believe me, if I can get into the intersection on yellow, I will.  I just won't drive like I am participating in NHRA in order to make a light.  I used to see if I could get to the "right" speed in order to not have to play the three peddle shuffle constantly when I was sitting on 7/66/495.  After over 80k miles in about 2-2.5 years, I decided that coasting was more fun than spinning tire/torching clutch to try to make it through one more light than you.

I think we both can agree that the light sequencing in NoVA is ridiculously farked up. I've driven in a lot of metro areas around the country and none of them basically punish you for driving the way NoVA wants to. There are days it takes me 20 minutes to go 5 miles in uncongested traffic because the sequencing was so bad.

And don't get me started on how much more screwed up those stoplight triggers that emergency vehicles have make the sequencing. UGH!


Something we all can agree on.

/Reston
 
2014-03-28 12:55:18 PM  
Can we hurry up with the self driving cars please
 
2014-03-28 12:57:26 PM  
It's weird that so many people can read and post in this thread, and not see the obvious - that there are as many ideas of what constitutes "good driving" as there are people. That's why we have codified traffic laws, and should probably obey them.
Just as a matter of enlightened self-interest, if nothing else.
 
2014-03-28 12:57:32 PM  
It sums up like this...

Douchy McDouch wouldn't let Douchy McDouch pass. Douchy McDouch passed anyway and subsequently crashed. Douchy McDouch filmed the whole thing.
 
2014-03-28 12:58:01 PM  

robodog: Do you assume flashing headlights are road rage?


No, I don't. But it's frequently a good solid clue

I'll use them if someone is driving at/under in the left lane impeding progress for a long period of time with open opportunities to move over.

If someone is driving "at" - by which I assume you mean "at the posted speed limit",  then by definition they're not impeding traffic. They may be impeding YOU, but that's not against the law.

It seems a lot safer than passing on the right or tailgating.

I can't argue much with that, except to point out that passing in the lane to their right is legal in every state I'm familiar with, including Florida, where this took place.

Don't get me wrong - people who intentionally stay left and go slow to piss off speeders or to act as personal traffic vigilantes  are assholes who deserve a ticket. If I'm in the leftmost and someone flashes to pass, I'll get out of the way if I can. But if I'm in that lane to pass other cars? Well, he's going to have to wait until the first reasonable opportunity for me to move over.
 
2014-03-28 12:58:54 PM  

Nutsac_Jim: Loreweaver: Except the "slower traffic keep right" and passing rules you refer to only apply to highways

Perhaps you could enlighten us to the code that says this.


This happened on US HIGHWAY 41.

Not sure where all the usual morons are getting that this was some busy city intersecton. It's a highway running through a small town.
 
2014-03-28 12:59:44 PM  

OregonVet: NicktheSmoker: Also, shouldn't she also get a ticket for using her damn phone while driving?

I picked out three tickets: speeding (not enough to bother with a stop tho), distracted driving (phone), and all that shiat in the windshield
---------------------------------


4 tickets.... "impeding flow of traffic"?
 
2014-03-28 12:59:46 PM  

hutchkc: Can we hurry up with the self driving cars please


Can't wait - bring it on.
 
2014-03-28 01:00:24 PM  
TLDR version of this thread: no matter how you drive, you are a dick.
 
2014-03-28 01:01:22 PM  

Bf+: A lot of uninformed hate in here.
Left lane loafer doesn't apply in this case:  It wasn't a freeway and she was in the lane to make a left turn.


People keep saying this. Depending on where it occurs, this is wrong.
 
2014-03-28 01:01:59 PM  

12monkeys: TLDR version of this thread: no matter how you drive, you are a dick.


Well, either an idiot or a maniac, anywway.
 
2014-03-28 01:02:31 PM  

Falin: Bf+: A lot of uninformed hate in here.
Left lane loafer doesn't apply in this case:  It wasn't a freeway and she was in the lane to make a left turn.

People keep saying this. Depending on where it occurs, this is wrong.


Well, the "it wasn't a freeway" part is possibly wrong. In the lane to make a left turn is a valid excuse to be there, of course.
 
2014-03-28 01:02:43 PM  
 
2014-03-28 01:03:02 PM  

Ctrl-Alt-Del: robodog: Do you assume flashing headlights are road rage?

No, I don't. But it's frequently a good solid clue

I'll use them if someone is driving at/under in the left lane impeding progress for a long period of time with open opportunities to move over.

If someone is driving "at" - by which I assume you mean "at the posted speed limit",  then by definition they're not impeding traffic. They may be impeding YOU, but that's not against the law.

It seems a lot safer than passing on the right or tailgating.

I can't argue much with that, except to point out that passing in the lane to their right is legal in every state I'm familiar with, including Florida, where this took place.

Don't get me wrong - people who intentionally stay left and go slow to piss off speeders or to act as personal traffic vigilantes  are assholes who deserve a ticket. If I'm in the leftmost and someone flashes to pass, I'll get out of the way if I can. But if I'm in that lane to pass other cars? Well, he's going to have to wait until the first reasonable opportunity for me to move over.


And if that's not good enough for Chester Q Leadfoot and he decides to get all up on my ass anyway, well then it becomes a completely different ballgame.
 
2014-03-28 01:03:16 PM  

SurfaceTension: adragontattoo: Dancin_In_Anson: I wonder why everyone is in such a farking hurry to get to the next red light.

I always laugh when I am in town and someone hauls ass as soon as the light turns green.  I always make sure to applaud and congratulate them on winning the race to the red light.  I then profusely apologize for taking so long to arrive.  Best so far was the guy who "raced" me to 5 consecutive red lights.  I was very ashamed that I managed to lose to him so many times.  The cops even pulled him over to congratulate him (I assume that is why they pulled a U-turn and started up their disco lights.)

And I thought the lights in northern Virginia were awfully timed. Where is this hell-hole that you live that has red lights that one can catch 5 consecutive without hitting a green?


King St, Market St, George St, and Philadelphia St in York, PA. If you are traveling on any one of those roads and you catch a red light, you will have red lights for the rest of your drive while within city limits. And, yes, they are deliberately timed that way, as a means of dealing with the sheer volume of commuters who regularly ignore the city speed limits.
 
2014-03-28 01:03:57 PM  

tripleseven: BEER_ME_in_CT: GET OUT OF THE FAST LANE you tubby $%#@. And, YOU OWE ME A NEW TRUCK lol.

Woman completely at fault here end of story.

Man card revoked for not knowing how to drive your truck dude.

Shocking that you are from CT with that attitude.  The majority of asshat drivers in NY will have a CT or NJ plate.  Protip:  There are actually traffic laws in NYC.  I know that you must feel some sort of inferiority/envy of NY, and NYC (I'm in the big bad city, there are no laws!), but no need to prove your toughness.  Don't drive like an asshat just because you're in NYC, and feel like you have something to prove.  The majority of NY'ers drive like reasonable, common sense, safe drivers.


Easy chief, I' was half joking and absolutely not saying the a-hole in the truck was justified in his behavior. The Woman was clogging up the fast lane with her fat ass and I know that is frustrating for those behind her.

FYI-I drive in the city all the time and have yet to see any sort of order maintained on those streets, ever. Its ever driver for themselves down there. Hows the air all the way up there on your high horse Captain Fantastic? lol
 
2014-03-28 01:04:48 PM  

jso2897: It's weird that so many people can read and post in this thread, and not see the obvious - that there are as many ideas of what constitutes "good driving" as there are people. That's why we have codified traffic laws, and should probably obey them.
Just as a matter of enlightened self-interest, if nothing else.


It is always a bad idea to intentionally try and annoy people, which both if these people did.
 
2014-03-28 01:06:07 PM  

Loreweaver: sammyk: BizarreMan: I'm not entirely sure who the jackass is in this particular scenario.

Not to excuse his actions but:

She claims that the road conditions are wet and slick so she doesn't want to speed.  Given the results of speeding and swerving being a crash, she may be correct.

There was apparently enough distance/time for her to get far enough past the car she was passing for him to pass them, cut to the right lane, and then pass her.  Plenty of time for her to get over, let him by, and then move back over to the left lane for her turn.

If it's so dangerous to be on the wet roads, taking care not to wreck.  It should be too dangerous for her to be taking one hand off the wheel and grab her cell phone.  At which point she then finds the app, and aims the phone in his general direction.  Even if she wasn't watching what was being recorded while driving.  That isn't safe driving.  It's damn dangerous.  If the conditions are so bad.

She says on the video and articles that she's made recordings like this before which tells me that she is a passive-aggressive left lane Nazi with AW tendencies.  I'm curious how many other videos she has on YouTube where drivers are being incited to road rage.

Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil but I don't taunt them and do stupid crap like wrecking my car. Then again I drive a SRT8 so blowing them up with that load as hell exhaust is kind of fun.

If LE actually enforced 'slower traffic keep right' we could fix a few traffic problems in tis country.

"Slower Traffic Keep Right" does not apply to boulevards with intersections. It only applies to highways with on/off ramps.


Depending on where you live, wrong. Again. Like so many other people.
 
2014-03-28 01:06:39 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Nutsac_Jim: Loreweaver: Except the "slower traffic keep right" and passing rules you refer to only apply to highways

Perhaps you could enlighten us to the code that says this.

This happened on US HIGHWAY 41.

Not sure where all the usual morons are getting that this was some busy city intersecton. It's a highway running through a small town.


Knows all about Highway 41

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-28 01:06:51 PM  

Falin: Falin: Bf+: A lot of uninformed hate in here.
Left lane loafer doesn't apply in this case:  It wasn't a freeway and she was in the lane to make a left turn.

People keep saying this. Depending on where it occurs, this is wrong.

Well, the "it wasn't a freeway" part is possibly wrong. In the lane to make a left turn is a valid excuse to be there, of course.


The didn't have her turn signal on.  She never turned left.  She likely just used this as a believable excuse to be in the left lane.  Who among us has not had to turn left.

Somehow, "I was enforcing the speed limit on my fellow  citizens doesn't have as much of a hint of innocence."
 
2014-03-28 01:08:01 PM  

liam76: jso2897: It's weird that so many people can read and post in this thread, and not see the obvious - that there are as many ideas of what constitutes "good driving" as there are people. That's why we have codified traffic laws, and should probably obey them.
Just as a matter of enlightened self-interest, if nothing else.

It is always a bad idea to intentionally try and annoy people, which both if these people did.


^This

In the end, trucker should have kept his cool. He didn't.
 
2014-03-28 01:09:11 PM  

xtech: doesnt matter, illuminate all you want. the glare isnt in my eye and is reflected back at you, which is all i care about.

whether or not it causes discomfort is irrelevant.


With as road ragey as you are in this thread, I guessing that it does bother you if someone is right up on your tail with their brights illuminating your entire cab. In fact, I bet you've dealt with this situation before.

Do you ever play same-speed?
 
2014-03-28 01:11:03 PM  

Nutsac_Jim: Falin: Falin: Bf+: A lot of uninformed hate in here.
Left lane loafer doesn't apply in this case:  It wasn't a freeway and she was in the lane to make a left turn.

People keep saying this. Depending on where it occurs, this is wrong.

Well, the "it wasn't a freeway" part is possibly wrong. In the lane to make a left turn is a valid excuse to be there, of course.

The didn't have her turn signal on.  She never turned left.  She likely just used this as a believable excuse to be in the left lane.  Who among us has not had to turn left.

Somehow, "I was enforcing the speed limit on my fellow  citizens doesn't have as much of a hint of innocence."


This. She clearly passes at least 3 intersections in the video. She wasn't turning left, she was being your typical piece of shiat Florida driver who drives slow in the fast lane and then engages in passive aggressive behavior when someone wants to pass.
 
2014-03-28 01:12:27 PM  
I honestly don't understand why so many people are trying to justify not keeping to the right and letting faster moving traffic just pass you.  "Actually by law that doesn't apply to........."  It's simply the courteous thing to do on any road.  But heaven forbid that you should be civil.
 
2014-03-28 01:12:45 PM  

Teaser: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x634]


img.fark.net

KARMA DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!
 
2014-03-28 01:13:32 PM  

sammyk: OregonVet: sammyk: Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil

I don't think 55+ in a 50 zone is hogging the left lane if you have a turn coming up.

I don't either. But please don't pretend that there is not an abundance of self important douche bags that think it's their civic duty to block traffic and set the speed for everyone else.


THIS. THIS. THIS.
 
2014-03-28 01:13:52 PM  
Weebles wobble but they won't pull over when you try to safely pass on the left.

Something is disturbing about her figure.
needinc.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-03-28 01:14:27 PM  
Only thing worse than tailgating guy is tailgating-on-slick-road guy. Or gal.

 

Cold_Sassy: DrBenway: adragontattoo: Btw, can anyone explain why people who are shiatty drivers get so mad when I give them a thumbs down?  I must have missed the memo about how thumbs down is more offensive than any other possible gesture.  It is almost comical how mad some people will get.

They especially like it when you blow them a kiss.

Ha-Ha, I do that.


Aggro penismobile dude really hates it when a guy does it to him.

xtech: adragontattoo: Actually Dipshiat, I quoted an article with a VERBATIM statement from a Va. State Police Officer stating GTFO of the left lane.  If you want to run your mouth and act all high and mighty, at least learn to READ.


too bad im not in VA and those laws dont apply to me.

btw, you sound mad. tell us how you really feel.


THREADRAGE!!! Out of my way!
 
2014-03-28 01:15:38 PM  

smoky2010: Nothing is worse than those jackasses that won't yield to the right, especially on the highway. I find that they tend to be from New York or New Jersey.

On a 3 lane highway, you shouldn't be going UNDER the speed limit in the extreme left lane, forcing everyone to pass you on the right. I have a pretty hefty commute and see this all the time.


Fixed that for you.
 
2014-03-28 01:16:04 PM  

Nutsac_Jim: Falin: Falin: Bf+: A lot of uninformed hate in here.
Left lane loafer doesn't apply in this case:  It wasn't a freeway and she was in the lane to make a left turn.

People keep saying this. Depending on where it occurs, this is wrong.

Well, the "it wasn't a freeway" part is possibly wrong. In the lane to make a left turn is a valid excuse to be there, of course.

The didn't have her turn signal on.  She never turned left.  She likely just used this as a believable excuse to be in the left lane.  Who among us has not had to turn left.

Somehow, "I was enforcing the speed limit on my fellow  citizens doesn't have as much of a hint of innocence."


True. I'm taking her at her word, though.

My point though is that people keep saying that the Keep Right Except to Pass laws only apply to freeway-type roadways. This isn't necessarily true. Where I live, they apply to ALL roads with more than one lane travelling in the same direction.

There are exceptions here of course, like if you're going to make an imminent left turn. But here in Washington, if you're just trucking along in the left lane on a surface street and people are passing you on the right, you're breaking the law.
 
2014-03-28 01:17:49 PM  

sammyk: OregonVet: sammyk: Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil

I don't think 55+ in a 50 zone is hogging the left lane if you have a turn coming up.

I don't either. But please don't pretend that there is not an abundance of self important douche bags that think it's their civic duty to block traffic and set the speed for everyone else.


Dang dude...what caused you to lose control like that?  And how long is your truck gonna be in the shop?
 
2014-03-28 01:21:24 PM  

Nutsac_Jim: Loreweaver: Except the "slower traffic keep right" and passing rules you refer to only apply to highways

Perhaps you could enlighten us to the code that says this.


It ONLY applies by law to those traveling under the speed limit. Period. There is no law in any state ever written that says anyone going the speed limit has to yield to a speeding driver. Go find one. You won't be back.
 
2014-03-28 01:21:31 PM  

Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: Yeah, guy drove like a dumbass and paid for it, but that women needs her ass kicked.

Did you see the women? She's suffered enough.


yep.   fat and ugly.  the worse kind of ugly...ugly on the inside.  she's pissed at the world, and she's gonna show 'em.

he'll pay a fine and get his truck fixed.  she'll still be fat and ugly.
 
2014-03-28 01:22:38 PM  
And finally, why can't we be more like Germany. It's a fantastical place where you can buy beer from vending machines and the police actually pull your ass over and give you a ticket for travelling in the left lane.
 
2014-03-28 01:23:38 PM  

Albert: 4 tickets.... "impeding flow of traffic"?


That's already been proven to not bet the case.
 
2014-03-28 01:23:47 PM  

OregonVet: Nutsac_Jim: Loreweaver: Except the "slower traffic keep right" and passing rules you refer to only apply to highways

Perhaps you could enlighten us to the code that says this.

It ONLY applies by law to those traveling under the speed limit. Period. There is no law in any state ever written that says anyone going the speed limit has to yield to a speeding driver. Go find one. You won't be back.


http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.61.100

It doesn't matter if the person on the left is going the speed limit or not.
 
2014-03-28 01:23:58 PM  

Phelon Hardtimes: I honestly don't understand why so many people are trying to justify not keeping to the right and letting faster moving traffic just pass you.  "Actually by law that doesn't apply to........."  It's simply the courteous thing to do on any road.  But heaven forbid that you should be civil.


It depends on the area.  Most of the four lane (total) roads in my area are restricted access, with only right exits.  Down in Florida however, they seem to have a pile of them.  The left lane isn't really a passing lane, it's more for senior citizens to blindly turn through traffic in.

If you're on a restricted access highway, the left lane is clearly just for passing.  If you're on a commercial shopping road, you just take your chances, sometimes you get to pass, sometimes you get stopped when someone is slowing to take a left turn.

Civility is a good thing.  But being stupidly helpful is a bad thing.
 
2014-03-28 01:27:22 PM  

liam76: jso2897: It's weird that so many people can read and post in this thread, and not see the obvious - that there are as many ideas of what constitutes "good driving" as there are people. That's why we have codified traffic laws, and should probably obey them.
Just as a matter of enlightened self-interest, if nothing else.

It is always a bad idea to intentionally try and annoy people, which both if these people did.


Well - they both had their own ideas of what constituted good driving, and those came into conflict. But if they both had followed the law, there would have been no accident.
I personally don't approve of the way either of them were driving - but it still would have had a better outcome if no one had broken the law.
 
2014-03-28 01:28:29 PM  
Best way to deal with lane Nazis?

i.imgur.com

ROLL COAL!
 
2014-03-28 01:29:05 PM  

Falin: It doesn't matter if the person on the left is going the speed limit or not.


From your post, LOL, emphasis added:

(1) Upon all roadways of sufficient width a vehicle shall be driven upon the right half of the roadway, except as follows:
     (a) When overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction under the rules governing such movement;

In little boy words- NOT speeding.
 
2014-03-28 01:30:06 PM  

MrSteve007: R.A.Danny: But when you measure your 0-60 with a calendar... Not that I am driving a racecar, but they just can't accelerate, and acceleration is where it is at in traffic.
Fun fact: Quarter mile (with a factory A-code 289 V8);  17.3 seconds
[ford-mustang.classicsportscars.eu image 850x379]

2010 model and newer, quarter mile; 17.3 seconds
[www.greenwerkspro.com image 750x500]


So you're saying they are willfully being douchebags by accelerating even slower than they are capable of?
 
2014-03-28 01:30:08 PM  
By my rankings, this thread just pushed this debate to number 2 on the list of Farker groups that loathe one another:

5. Jews vs Palestinians
4. Bicyclists vs Car drivers
3. Pro-life vs Pro-choice
2. Tailgaters vs Lane cloggers
1. Conservatives vs Liberals
 
2014-03-28 01:31:14 PM  
sammyk: Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil

I don't think 55+ in a 50 zone is hogging the left lane if you have a turn coming up.

No, no, no. This is Fark. If you're driving in the left lane, it doesn't matter how fast you're going. If the car behind you wants to go faster, that's your problem, and you'd better let them pass you or you're wrong.



EXACTLY CORRECT

thank you
 
2014-03-28 01:32:39 PM  
Loaf's Tray:
You must've gotten the non-Truck Nutz model...those are for Nancy-ass Nancies...

Most likely, it's just a generic 2WD non-jacked-up standard cab no frills pickup truck.  Because I can't haul 1000 pounds worth of gear, tools, and spares and tow an 18 foot trailer with a race car strapped to it with a Fiat 500.

i.imgur.com

I used to do it with a Subaru Outback, and it was -not- happy.  Note the rear suspension.

badcatracing.com
 
2014-03-28 01:33:06 PM  
By my rankings, this thread just pushed this debate to number 2 on the list of Farker groups that loathe one another:

5. Jews vs Palestinians
4. Bicyclists vs Car drivers
3. Pro-life vs Pro-choice
2. Tailgaters vs Lane cloggers
1. Conservatives vs Liberals



Recently I've discovered one more
Airplane seat recliners vs. recliner whiners
 
2014-03-28 01:33:22 PM  

OregonVet: Nutsac_Jim: Loreweaver: Except the "slower traffic keep right" and passing rules you refer to only apply to highways

Perhaps you could enlighten us to the code that says this.

It ONLY applies by law to those traveling under the speed limit. Period. There is no law in any state ever written that says anyone going the speed limit has to yield to a speeding driver. Go find one. You won't be back.


A> I was referring to the statement that said that move to the right only applies if there is an onramp on that road.

B> You can get pulled over if someone displays their intent to pass (honk, flash) and you do not.
 
2014-03-28 01:33:28 PM  

OregonVet: Falin: It doesn't matter if the person on the left is going the speed limit or not.

From your post, LOL, emphasis added:

(1) Upon all roadways of sufficient width a vehicle shall be driven upon the right half of the roadway, except as follows:
     (a) When overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction under the rules governing such movement;

In little boy words- NOT speeding.


That section applies to roads that are one lane but have room to pass on the right. In other words, passing on the shoulder or a wide single lane.

The section that applies to roads with multiple lanes is this one:

(2) Upon all roadways having two or more lanes for traffic moving in the same direction, all vehicles shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic, except (a) when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction, (b) when traveling at a speed greater than the traffic flow, (c) when moving left to allow traffic to merge, or (d) when preparing for a left turn at an intersection, exit, or into a private road or driveway when such left turn is legally permitted. On any such roadway, a vehicle or combination over ten thousand pounds shall be driven only in the right-hand lane except under the conditions enumerated in (a) through (d) of this subsection.

In even littler-boy words- You're wrong.
 
2014-03-28 01:33:48 PM  

Falin: Falin: Bf+: A lot of uninformed hate in here.
Left lane loafer doesn't apply in this case:  It wasn't a freeway and she was in the lane to make a left turn.

People keep saying this. Depending on where it occurs, this is wrong.

Well, the "it wasn't a freeway" part is possibly wrong. In the lane to make a left turn is a valid excuse to be there, of course.

Yeah, this isn't exactly an interstate or normal freeway: left turn lanes, school zones, intersections galore and even a bike lane thrown in.
scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2014-03-28 01:34:33 PM  

Falin: OregonVet: duffblue: Since the law is to yield to faster traffic in most states, you have to be a special kind of stupid to do what the driver behind the camera does.

They aren't on the freeway, they're in town in a reduced speed zone  (50)... IANAL, but I don't think that law applies there.

In Washington State the "Keep Right Except to Pass" law actually applies to every single roadway that has more than one lane travelling in the same direction. It's not restricted to freeways.

Don't know about Florida or where you live.


The folks from Oregon are always ignoring that part of the rule because they don't have a sign every 50 feet reminding them to stay to the right.
 
2014-03-28 01:34:37 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: By my rankings, this thread just pushed this debate to number 2 on the list of Farker groups that loathe one another:

5. Jews vs Palestinians
4. Bicyclists vs Car drivers
3. Pro-life vs Pro-choice
2. Tailgaters vs Lane cloggers
1. Conservatives vs Liberals


Idiots vs Maniacs.
 
2014-03-28 01:34:44 PM  

SurfaceTension: Oh, one more point about all this:

The safest place for an aggressive driver is in front of you, the defensive driver. That way you can plan and react to the aggressive driver's moves.


If all y'all wanna play defense, I'll take offense, somebody has to.

/Just trying to be a team player :)
//with all y'all behind me, I don't have to worry about you at all, no need to plan to react
///and if I do fark up, guess what, your farked too, as you sit in traffic
 
2014-03-28 01:34:48 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: By my rankings, this thread just pushed this debate to number 2 on the list of Farker groups that loathe one another:

5. Jews vs Palestinians
4. Bicyclists vs Car drivers
3. Pro-life vs Pro-choice
2. Tailgaters vs Lane cloggers
1. Conservatives vs Liberals


Haha, that's pretty good but Cyclists vs. "Cagers" threads are still more amusing for me personally and would by my no.2 seed.  I'm also fond of Gen. Y vs. Boomers threads but that might also be just me.
 
2014-03-28 01:35:05 PM  

jso2897: It's weird that so many people can read and post in this thread, and not see the obvious - that there are as many ideas of what constitutes "good driving" as there are people. That's why we have codified traffic laws, and should probably obey them.
Just as a matter of enlightened self-interest, if nothing else.


The problem is that most of the laws that were codified were done so before we had modern road and automobile technology. Most of us probably learned to drive in cars that were lower in technology as well.

I do think a total revamp of the laws, speed laws, and technologies should be instituted as well as some kind of national level driving law standard put in place.
 
2014-03-28 01:35:23 PM  

doubled99: By my rankings, this thread just pushed this debate to number 2 on the list of Farker groups that loathe one another:

5. Jews vs Palestinians
4. Bicyclists vs Car drivers
3. Pro-life vs Pro-choice
2. Tailgaters vs Lane cloggers
1. Conservatives vs Liberals


Recently I've discovered one more
Airplane seat recliners vs. recliner whiners



I see which way your...leaning.

/I'm here til 5, folks.
//tip the bartender
 
2014-03-28 01:36:15 PM  

Bf+: A lot of uninformed hate in here.
Left lane loafer doesn't apply in this case:  It wasn't a freeway and she was in the lane to make a left turn.


Wrong, plus she was NOT in the lane to make a left turn.
 
2014-03-28 01:36:50 PM  

OregonVet: Falin: It doesn't matter if the person on the left is going the speed limit or not.

From your post, LOL, emphasis added:

(1) Upon all roadways of sufficient width a vehicle shall be driven upon the right half of the roadway, except as follows:
     (a) When overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction under the rules governing such movement;

In little boy words- NOT speeding.


Yes, what I find hilarious about the "GET OUT OF MY WAY IN THE LEFT LANE WHARGRBLL" people, is that the speed limit is an absolute.  Which is why you can be cited for driving 1MPH over.
Slower traffic implies people driving under the speed limit.
Laws, what are they for?
 
2014-03-28 01:37:00 PM  

Gonz: No, no, no. This is Fark. If you're driving in the left lane, it doesn't matter how fast you're going. If the car behind you wants to go faster, that's your problem, and you'd better let them pass you or you're wrong.


No, that's the law.  You're confused.
 
2014-03-28 01:37:22 PM  

doubled99: By my rankings, this thread just pushed this debate to number 2 on the list of Farker groups that loathe one another:

5. Jews vs Palestinians
4. Bicyclists vs Car drivers
3. Pro-life vs Pro-choice
2. Tailgaters vs Lane cloggers
1. Conservatives vs Liberals


Recently I've discovered one more
Airplane seat recliners vs. recliner whiners


I'm uncertain exactly how a two inch seatback movement qualifies as reclining.
 
2014-03-28 01:38:21 PM  

MrSteve007: Falin: Falin: Bf+: A lot of uninformed hate in here.
Left lane loafer doesn't apply in this case:  It wasn't a freeway and she was in the lane to make a left turn.

People keep saying this. Depending on where it occurs, this is wrong.

Well, the "it wasn't a freeway" part is possibly wrong. In the lane to make a left turn is a valid excuse to be there, of course.
Yeah, this isn't exactly an interstate or normal freeway: left turn lanes, school zones, intersections galore and even a bike lane thrown in.
[scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x926]


In Washington State, Keep Right Except to Pass applies on roads like the one pictured.

Unless you're going to make a left turn right away. Then knock yourself out.
 
2014-03-28 01:39:01 PM  

tripleseven: OregonVet: Falin: It doesn't matter if the person on the left is going the speed limit or not.

From your post, LOL, emphasis added:

(1) Upon all roadways of sufficient width a vehicle shall be driven upon the right half of the roadway, except as follows:
     (a) When overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction under the rules governing such movement;

In little boy words- NOT speeding.

Yes, what I find hilarious about the "GET OUT OF MY WAY IN THE LEFT LANE WHARGRBLL" people, is that the speed limit is an absolute.  Which is why you can be cited for driving 1MPH over.
Slower traffic implies people driving under the speed limit.
Laws, what are they for?


Again, not true. In several states, the Keep Right law applies regardless of how fast you are going. I live in one of them.
 
2014-03-28 01:39:12 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: By my rankings, this thread just pushed this debate to number 2 on the list of Farker groups that loathe one another:

5. Jews vs Palestinians
4. Bicyclists vs Car drivers
3. Pro-life vs Pro-choice
2. Tailgaters vs Lane cloggers
1. Conservatives vs Liberals


You have Jews v. Palestinians ranked above gun grabbers v. gun nuts?
 
2014-03-28 01:40:38 PM  
http://www.mit.edu/~jfc/right.html

There - that should clarify the issue for everybody! :D
 
2014-03-28 01:41:46 PM  

jso2897: http://www.mit.edu/~jfc/right.html

There - that should clarify the issue for everybody! :D


Nah, it won't. It'll just get "interpreted" in a way that meets each person's individual need to be right.
 
2014-03-28 01:42:55 PM  
5. Jews vs Palestinians
4. Bicyclists vs Car drivers
3. Pro-life vs Pro-choice
2. Tailgaters vs Lane cloggers
1. Conservatives vs Liberals


Recently I've discovered one more
Airplane seat recliners vs. recliner whiners

I'm uncertain exactly how a two inch seatback movement qualifies as reclining.



Now now, don't start!
 
2014-03-28 01:43:55 PM  

Falin: In Washington State, Keep Right Except to Pass applies on roads like the one pictured.

Unless you're going to make a left turn right away. Then knock yourself out.


Don't forget the other provisions detailed in section two of RCW 46.61.100 - like going faster than the flow of traffic, or overtaking another vehicle, or letting a vehicle merge, or preparing to turn left.

Now it doesn't give any distance or time for the left turn. If you want to turn left in a mile or two and prepare for it, you're cool. Or if you're worried about letting vehicles merge from the intersections from the right, while you're in a semi-urban area, you're cool. No cop is going to give you trouble. This isn't an interstate.

But the main point stands, this isn't in Washington State - this happened in Florida, which laws allow for someone like her to hang out all day in the left lane on a road like this, as long as she isn't going 10 below the speed limit or lower.
 
2014-03-28 01:44:18 PM  

Falin: In even littler-boy words- You're wrong.


You are wrong. You are not allowed to speed. The entire law is written to cover circumstances when someone is under the limit. Not to mention in the video she is passing other vehicles while this guy is on her ass. Show me where speeding in the law is permitted and I'll yield. You won't.
 
2014-03-28 01:44:52 PM  

SurfaceTension: jso2897: It's weird that so many people can read and post in this thread, and not see the obvious - that there are as many ideas of what constitutes "good driving" as there are people. That's why we have codified traffic laws, and should probably obey them.
Just as a matter of enlightened self-interest, if nothing else.

The problem is that most of the laws that were codified were done so before we had modern road and automobile technology. Most of us probably learned to drive in cars that were lower in technology as well.

I do think a total revamp of the laws, speed laws, and technologies should be instituted as well as some kind of national level driving law standard put in place.


Sure - fine with me. My point has nothing to do with whether the current laws are "good" or "bad".
The only point that I am making about the law is that it is a codified standard, and that common adherence to it is possible - obviously, adherence to all the different personal versions of "good driving" would not be.
We need a standardized code of behavior on the road, and only law provides that.
 
2014-03-28 01:46:00 PM  

Falin: jso2897: http://www.mit.edu/~jfc/right.html

There - that should clarify the issue for everybody! :D

Nah, it won't. It'll just get "interpreted" in a way that meets each person's individual need to be right.


Thus the " :D "  at the end of my post.
 
2014-03-28 01:47:35 PM  

Falin: The section that applies to roads with multiple lanes is this one:

(2) Upon all roadways having two or more lanes for traffic moving in the same direction, all vehicles shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic, except (a) when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction, (b) when traveling at a speed greater than the traffic flow, (c) when moving left to allow traffic to merge, or (d) when preparing for a left turn at an intersection, exit, or into a private road or driveway when such left turn is legally permitted. On any such roadway, a vehicle or combination over ten thousand pounds shall be driven only in the right-hand lane except under the conditions enumerated in (a) through (d) of this subsection.

In even littler-boy words- You're wrong.


Funny, I don't see anything at all in there about having to yield to a faster driver. And since this:


OregonVet: There is no law in any state ever written that says anyone going the speed limit has to yield to a speeding driver. Go find one.


Is the original statement you were responding to, you might want to consider adding an "i" to your username, because according to that bit you posted, as long as I am "traveling at a speed greater than the traffic flow" it doesn't much matter at all what the douchebag behind me wants
 
2014-03-28 01:48:15 PM  
Like most things in life, some are too stupid to think or make judgments, and so for them we need rigid, unbendable rules to follow.

It's the speed LIMIT, for god's sake!!! Think of the children!
 
2014-03-28 01:51:32 PM  

OregonVet: Falin: In even littler-boy words- You're wrong.

You are wrong. You are not allowed to speed. The entire law is written to cover circumstances when someone is under the limit. Not to mention in the video she is passing other vehicles while this guy is on her ass. Show me where speeding in the law is permitted and I'll yield. You won't.


Sorry man, you're just flat-out wrong on this one. The laws governing keeping right in this state do not take speed limit into account. Some states do have a law that specifically says that if you're going the speed limit you don't have to get over. Washington isn't one of them.

Here, the chances of you getting pulled over for going the speed limit in the left lane and not moving right for traffic are higher than the chances of you getting pulled over for going 5 over the limit. Cops around here know. They know which behavior causes more traffic and safety issues, so they target it.

If you're in the left lane here doing 65 in a 60 and some guy gets up on your ass because he wants to do 80, you're legally required to move over. Full stop.

Yes, he's a douche for getting on your ass, but you're just as much of a douche for not getting over.
 
2014-03-28 01:51:34 PM  

Phelon Hardtimes: DROxINxTHExWIND: By my rankings, this thread just pushed this debate to number 2 on the list of Farker groups that loathe one another:

5. Jews vs Palestinians
4. Bicyclists vs Car drivers
3. Pro-life vs Pro-choice
2. Tailgaters vs Lane cloggers
1. Conservatives vs Liberals

Haha, that's pretty good but Cyclists vs. "Cagers" threads are still more amusing for me personally and would by my no.2 seed.  I'm also fond of Gen. Y vs. Boomers threads but that might also be just me.



I debated moving Bikers and cagers*** into the third slot. The rankings will be re-evaluated at months end.

/***thanks, I couldn't remember the slang term
 
2014-03-28 01:51:44 PM  

OregonVet: Falin: In even littler-boy words- You're wrong.

You are wrong. You are not allowed to speed. The entire law is written to cover circumstances when someone is under the limit. Not to mention in the video she is passing other vehicles while this guy is on her ass. Show me where speeding in the law is permitted and I'll yield. You won't.


"You are not allowed to speed".  This is true but most of us do it from time to time.  If you don't ever speed than good on you my friend. I generally don't either but that's because i'm cheap and don't want to pay a hefty fine for it.  I still get over to let other pass though, it's just good manners.  You are arguing semantics to excuse poor manners.  Maybe that guy or gal just got a call that his kid is in the hospital.
 
2014-03-28 01:53:10 PM  
A video camera doesn't protect you from an out of control vehicle. Recording a tailgater is more likely to cause you to lose control ( as you can't concentrate on the road) and as seen in the video is moe likely to cause the tailgater to lose control.

She made the situation worse, even if we ignore the speeding up to stop him from passing. It had nothing to do with 'protection' and had everything to do with being a douche for the sake if being a douche.
 
2014-03-28 01:55:39 PM  

Ctrl-Alt-Del: Falin: The section that applies to roads with multiple lanes is this one:

(2) Upon all roadways having two or more lanes for traffic moving in the same direction, all vehicles shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic, except (a) when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction, (b) when traveling at a speed greater than the traffic flow, (c) when moving left to allow traffic to merge, or (d) when preparing for a left turn at an intersection, exit, or into a private road or driveway when such left turn is legally permitted. On any such roadway, a vehicle or combination over ten thousand pounds shall be driven only in the right-hand lane except under the conditions enumerated in (a) through (d) of this subsection.

In even littler-boy words- You're wrong.

Funny, I don't see anything at all in there about having to yield to a faster driver. And since this:


OregonVet: There is no law in any state ever written that says anyone going the speed limit has to yield to a speeding driver. Go find one.

Is the original statement you were responding to, you might want to consider adding an "i" to your username, because according to that bit you posted, as long as I am "traveling at a speed greater than the traffic flow" it doesn't much matter at all what the douchebag behind me wants


If you're  "traveling at a speed greater than the traffic flow",it means you're passing. You don't have to move right if you're passing. Douche behind you can wait until you're done passing.

And, since the original statement made is objectively and demonstrably wrong, you don't really have a point. He made a false statement and I responded to it showing that it was false. End of story.
 
2014-03-28 01:55:49 PM  
I drive all across the state as part of my job, and I have determined the following:

If you aren't on freeway the whole time, continually going 15-20 mph over the speed limit during a 50-mile trip gets you to your destination approximately 2 minutes faster.

Two. Minutes.

With all the traffic lights, stop signs, and turns in any given commute, you're not gaining much by speeding in the long run. You MIGHT get only 1 extra minute after you hit a couple long lights and have to sit there for a while.

And I'm sorry, but 1 or 2 minutes out of an hour's drive isn't worth the risk. I can't imagine ANYTHING I'd be doing that would hinge on 1 or 2 minutes, unless it's driving someone to a hospital, and I'm not driving 50 miles for that.

And if you're driving a shorter distance-- say, 10 miles-- you might gain anywhere from 20 seconds to a whole minute after you hit all the intersections, residential zones, and wads of traffic.

Unless, of course, you're the kind of jackass that goes 35 mph over the speed limit in a residential zone. Then you might gain an extra minute there.

The two accidents I've been in were due to equipment failure. In 30-odd years of driving, that's a pretty good record.
 
2014-03-28 01:57:01 PM  

liam76: A video camera doesn't protect you from an out of control vehicle. Recording a tailgater is more likely to cause you to lose control ( as you can't concentrate on the road) and as seen in the video is moe likely to cause the tailgater to lose control.

She made the situation worse, even if we ignore the speeding up to stop him from passing. It had nothing to do with 'protection' and had everything to do with being a douche for the sake if being a douche.


fark, on my phone, that was to the yard who claimed videotaping in a situation like this was for 'protection'
 
2014-03-28 01:58:07 PM  

Conservative Humor: DROxINxTHExWIND: By my rankings, this thread just pushed this debate to number 2 on the list of Farker groups that loathe one another:

5. Jews vs Palestinians
4. Bicyclists vs Car drivers
3. Pro-life vs Pro-choice
2. Tailgaters vs Lane cloggers
1. Conservatives vs Liberals

You have Jews v. Palestinians ranked above gun grabbers v. gun nuts?



FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!

That's the one that I was searching for. New rankings below:

5. Bicyclists vs Car drivers
4. Tailgaters vs Lane cloggers
3. Athiests/Evolutionists vs Believers/Creationists
2. Gun nuts vs Gun grabbers
1. Conservatives vs Liberals
 
2014-03-28 02:02:56 PM  

Bf+: It says quite a bit about the Fark community when this video gets posted and everyone piles on the person filming it.


why?  she clearly was a distracted driver...she clearly egg'd him on.  she could have de-escalated the situation, but chose to keep it up.  she later said that she's done it before...which says a lot about her, i.e. that she gets off inciting road rage incidents, filming them, etc.....

look, they are both douche-bags.   but to absolve her of any accountability is just ignorant.
 
2014-03-28 02:03:58 PM  
A few years ago I was driving on I-20 near the Georgia - Alabama border, doing about 12 miles over the speed limit in the left lane and a truck came flying up behind me.  Put on my right turn signal and waited for an opening to get into the right lane.  Truck guy started laying on the horn, flashing lights, and generally losing his mind.  This, despite the fact that I had shown him wanted to get out of his way and was already exceeding the speed limit.  He passed me and shot the finger as he did.  My daughters asked me why he was so mad--I told them some people just like to drive angry.

A few miles down the road, we passed Angry Trucker Dud, who'd been pulled over by a State Trooper.  Had a quick laugh about it and continued on.  We pull into a rest area when we got into Alabama and the girls played for a bit, then we got back on the road.   A few minutes later, Angry Trucker Dude hauled ass up next to my truck, shot me the finger again, and sped off.  We saw him again a few minutes later, this time being attended to by a Bama trooper.

I used to drive with a certain amount of anger, but my wife told me that it really made being with me in a car difficult.  I found a way to mellow out--I just imagined that cars that were pissing me off were being driven by kindly but clueless aunts or uncles of friends of mine...and then imagined how I'd feel if I saw them later, after I'd been an asshole on the road.  Made a world of difference.  Since I stopped actively looking for reasons to be mad while driving, it has greatly improved my chill factor.  Others have said it in this thread--all that stress and anger over petty bullshiat with strangers on the road just aren't worth the toll it puts on you.
 
2014-03-28 02:04:24 PM  
DROxINxTHExWIND:
5. Bicyclists vs Car drivers
4. Tailgaters vs Lane cloggers
3. Athiests/Evolutionists vs Believers/Creationists
2. Gun nuts vs Gun grabbers
1. Conservatives vs Liberals


-----
5. Pro-cage
4. Pro-tailgate
3. Pro Athiests/Evo
2. Pro Gub-grabber
1. neither

/ I love surveys!
 
2014-03-28 02:04:48 PM  
drive all across the state as part of my job, and I have determined the following:
If you aren't on freeway the whole time, continually going 15-20 mph over the speed limit during a 50-mile trip gets you to your destination approximately 2 minutes faster.
Two. Minutes.
With all the traffic lights, stop signs, and turns in any given commute, you're not gaining much by speeding in the long run. You MIGHT get only 1 extra minute after you hit a couple long lights and have to sit there for a while.
And I'm sorry, but 1 or 2 minutes out of an hour's drive isn't worth the risk. I can't imagine ANYTHING I'd be doing that would hinge on 1 or 2 minutes, unless it's driving someone to a hospital, and I'm not driving 50 miles for that.
And if you're driving a shorter distanc blah blah blah ...



Like many here, you spend far too much time trying to figure out the motives of others and whether or not they need to be doing what they're doing- STOP-it's not your business.

Skip all the heavy thinking  and just politely move over to the right thanks.
 
2014-03-28 02:05:40 PM  

Mad Scientist: Drivers of BMWs and full-sized pickups: biggest assholes in the world.

/FSM help us if BMW ever makes a pickup


I actually find Audi drivers worse. It's only every other beemer, you can set your watch by an Audi, though. Or a Lexus SUV.
 
2014-03-28 02:06:24 PM  

Falin: OregonVet: Falin: In even littler-boy words- You're wrong.

You are wrong. You are not allowed to speed. The entire law is written to cover circumstances when someone is under the limit. Not to mention in the video she is passing other vehicles while this guy is on her ass. Show me where speeding in the law is permitted and I'll yield. You won't.

Sorry man, you're just flat-out wrong on this one. The laws governing keeping right in this state do not take speed limit into account. Some states do have a law that specifically says that if you're going the speed limit you don't have to get over. Washington isn't one of them.

Here, the chances of you getting pulled over for going the speed limit in the left lane and not moving right for traffic are higher than the chances of you getting pulled over for going 5 over the limit. Cops around here know. They know which behavior causes more traffic and safety issues, so they target it.

If you're in the left lane here doing 65 in a 60 and some guy gets up on your ass because he wants to do 80, you're legally required to move over. Full stop.

Yes, he's a douche for getting on your ass, but you're just as much of a douche for not getting over.


Washington is one, douche.

46.61.425
Minimum speed regulation - Passing slow moving vehicle.
(1) No person shall drive a motor vehicle at such a slow speed as to impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic except when reduced speed is necessary for safe operation or in compliance with law: PROVIDED, That a person following a vehicle driving at less than the legal maximum speed and desiring to pass such vehicle may exceed the speed limit, subject to the provisions of RCW http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.61&full=true#46.61.120 ">46.61.120 on highways having only one lane of traffic in each direction, at only such a speed and for only such a distance as is necessary to complete the pass with a reasonable margin of safety.

In all fairness, the I added "big" an "bold", but the actual law has ALL CAPS.
 
2014-03-28 02:06:47 PM  

Conservative Humor: DROxINxTHExWIND: By my rankings, this thread just pushed this debate to number 2 on the list of Farker groups that loathe one another:

5. Jews vs Palestinians
4. Bicyclists vs Car drivers
3. Pro-life vs Pro-choice
2. Tailgaters vs Lane cloggers
1. Conservatives vs Liberals

You have Jews v. Palestinians ranked above gun grabbers v. gun nuts?


What's funny is how he lets the mask slip, by not saying "Israelis vs Palestinians."

/he says he's anti-Zionist
//but he's really just a Nazi
 
2014-03-28 02:08:18 PM  

Mr. Cat Poop: Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: Yeah, guy drove like a dumbass and paid for it, but that women needs her ass kicked.

Did you see the women? She's suffered enough.

She looks like Ellen Page with 125 extra pounds on her.


Am I missing something here or did every woman hatin' tough guy come out of the sticks in this thread?
 
2014-03-28 02:08:51 PM  

ReverendJynxed: MrSteve007: R.A.Danny: But when you measure your 0-60 with a calendar... Not that I am driving a racecar, but they just can't accelerate, and acceleration is where it is at in traffic.
Fun fact: Quarter mile (with a factory A-code 289 V8);  17.3 seconds
[ford-mustang.classicsportscars.eu image 850x379]

2010 model and newer, quarter mile; 17.3 seconds
[www.greenwerkspro.com image 750x500]

So you're saying they are willfully being douchebags by accelerating even slower than they are capable of?


People are douchebags for myriad reasons.
 
2014-03-28 02:09:01 PM  
That's a rough 33
 
2014-03-28 02:09:14 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: This. This is the reason "Slower traffic keep right" laws exist, and when they don't, you should consider it a rule of the road anyway. Sure, they guy was a dick, but that absolutely would not have happened if you had simply gotten over to the right. Don't want to speed up because of some BS "it's a rainy day" excuse (by the way, that might be a better sell if your wipers were on, your window wasn't rolled down and we couldn't see that it wasn't raining)? Fine, then drop back and get to the right. Oh, and driving one handed while you try to video the guy and stopping in a travel lane to get out and continue recording him *totally* sells you as the Patron Saint of Safe Driving, by the way.

OregonVet: I don't think 55+ in a 50 zone is hogging the left lane if you have a turn coming up.

She was going less than 50 (fast forward to the 37 second mark). Besides that, I can't find any reference to the posted speed limit in either the original vid or this newscast.

 
Oh my god! She was going 48 while still passing vehicles on the left, while on a non-limited-access highway that has left turns off of it, so driving on the left is expected??!! Oh the humanity!
 
2014-03-28 02:09:16 PM  
few random thoughts...

not defending the truck driver's actions, but one thing i don't understand is why everyone is calling it some sort of penis compensator or making it out to be some huge lifted monstrosity... the dude had a full size pick up truck, nothing more.

the driver of the car managed to hold that camera pretty steady and stay focused on the truck pointed behind her - seems dangerous.  in that view, the guy was close, but it didnt look like he was tail gating her in the slightest (from that view).

lastly, the guy is a major moron.  i have a pick up (toyota tacoma), and when the roads are slick and the bed is empty the one thing NOT to do is jerk the wheel.
 
2014-03-28 02:09:49 PM  

Ker_Thwap: doubled99: By my rankings, this thread just pushed this debate to number 2 on the list of Farker groups that loathe one another:

5. Jews vs Palestinians
4. Bicyclists vs Car drivers
3. Pro-life vs Pro-choice
2. Tailgaters vs Lane cloggers
1. Conservatives vs Liberals


Recently I've discovered one more
Airplane seat recliners vs. recliner whiners

I'm uncertain exactly how a two inch seatback movement qualifies as reclining.


Given how airlines try to cram everyone in like sardines it's surprising that's even an option.
 
2014-03-28 02:13:47 PM  

Falin: And, since the original statement made is objectively and demonstrably wrong, you don't really have a point. He made a false statement and I responded to it showing that it was false. End of story.


Except that, no, you didn't.  You haven't posted anything that says a driver must move to the right to allow another driver to pass at ANY speed, much less at speeds over the limit, which is what he challenged yo to do. For the most part, a drivers responsibilities under Keep Right laws have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with a vehicle behind him, and the staute you posted is no different. I'm surprised you're having so much difficulty understanding this - are you drunk?

But maybe I'm wrong. Here's the part you so condescendingly quoted:

The section that applies to roads with multiple lanes is this one:

(2) Upon all roadways having two or more lanes for traffic moving in the same direction, all vehicles shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic, except (a) when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction, (b) when traveling at a speed greater than the traffic flow, (c) when moving left to allow traffic to merge, or (d) when preparing for a left turn at an intersection, exit, or into a private road or driveway when such left turn is legally permitted. On any such roadway, a vehicle or combination over ten thousand pounds shall be driven only in the right-hand lane except under the conditions enumerated in (a) through (d) of this subsection.


Just use boldface to highlight the part that requires a driver to move to yield to an overtaking vehicle. Then everyone here will know how very smart you are, and how totally wrong he is. Or maybe you'll realize that you're not really making the point you think you are
 
2014-03-28 02:13:53 PM  

Falin: OregonVet: Falin: In even littler-boy words- You're wrong.

You are wrong. You are not allowed to speed. The entire law is written to cover circumstances when someone is under the limit. Not to mention in the video she is passing other vehicles while this guy is on her ass. Show me where speeding in the law is permitted and I'll yield. You won't.

Sorry man, you're just flat-out wrong on this one. The laws governing keeping right in this state do not take speed limit into account. Some states do have a law that specifically says that if you're going the speed limit you don't have to get over. Washington isn't one of them.

Here, the chances of you getting pulled over for going the speed limit in the left lane and not moving right for traffic are higher than the chances of you getting pulled over for going 5 over the limit. Cops around here know. They know which behavior causes more traffic and safety issues, so they target it.

If you're in the left lane here doing 65 in a 60 and some guy gets up on your ass because he wants to do 80, you're legally required to move over. Full stop.

Yes, he's a douche for getting on your ass, but you're just as much of a douche for not getting over.


IMO this has nothing to do with being a douche, and more to do with being safe on the road.  The jerk that rides someone's ass to go 5mph faster is putting everyone in the general vicinity in danger.  Flash your lights, honk your horn, but don't ride my ass... I will brake check you.  And if you hit me, it will be your fault and I will win my lawsuit against you.  What this guy did accomplished exactly nothing (road rage never does).  Yes, there is something to be said for being a courteous driver and switching lanes when someone flies up behind you.  There is also something to be said for showing some patience.  Quote whatever laws you want, but he LOST.  And that makes me happy, given his shiatty driving.  Was she acting like a spoiled little child?  Sure.  That's still no excuse for the way he handled it.

/Full disclosure - I drive like a bat out of hell
//I also do not pull shenanigans like truck doucher did in this video...
 
2014-03-28 02:14:14 PM  

MechaPyx: Ker_Thwap: doubled99: By my rankings, this thread just pushed this debate to number 2 on the list of Farker groups that loathe one another:

5. Jews vs Palestinians
4. Bicyclists vs Car drivers
3. Pro-life vs Pro-choice
2. Tailgaters vs Lane cloggers
1. Conservatives vs Liberals


Recently I've discovered one more
Airplane seat recliners vs. recliner whiners

I'm uncertain exactly how a two inch seatback movement qualifies as reclining.

Given how airlines try to cram everyone in like sardines it's surprising that's even an option.


Yup, I am a pretty bug guy at 6'4" but I blame the airlines, not the recliner in 13b.  *wishes he could afford first class*

I love that list though.  It's all the hot topic threads I can't turn away from haha.
 
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2014-03-28 02:14:33 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: By my rankings, this thread just pushed this debate to number 2 on the list of Farker groups that loathe one another:

5. Jews vs Palestinians
4. Bicyclists vs Car drivers
3. Pro-life vs Pro-choice
2. Tailgaters vs Lane cloggers
1. Conservatives vs Liberals


Excellent list.
I'd add:
Conservatives vs Women
Conservatives vs Minorities
Conservatives vs Poors
Conser... aw you get the joke.

But seriously, how about the great toilet paper over/under debate?
(which should be no debate at all.... grrr...)
 
2014-03-28 02:15:07 PM  

loaba: / I love surveys!


cdn2.dualshockers.com
"Would you like to see a movie starring George Wendt eating beans?"

 
2014-03-28 02:15:53 PM  

whatsupchuck: If you're in that much of a goddamn rush to get where you're headed, leave five minutes earlier.


I always love this solution. There are any number of reasons why someone may be in a rush that has absolutely nothing to do with what time they could have left.
 
2014-03-28 02:16:02 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Best way to deal with lane Nazis?

[i.imgur.com image 600x600]

ROLL COAL!


Oblig
 
2014-03-28 02:16:15 PM  

OregonVet: Falin: In even littler-boy words- You're wrong.

You are wrong. You are not allowed to speed. The entire law is written to cover circumstances when someone is under the limit. Not to mention in the video she is passing other vehicles while this guy is on her ass. Show me where speeding in the law is permitted and I'll yield. You won't.


Read the laws: speeding and left lane usage are orthogonal. If someone wants to go faster than you, it's not hurting you. If anything, having them in front of you is helping you.

People (including you, apparently) make far too much out of trivial things. Drive how you want within reason and let others drive how they want within reason. There are far more important things to spend your mental energy on than whether or not some person you will never meet face-to-face is driving correctly.

Personally I drive 5-8 mph over the limit at all times and I never camp the left lane on any road unless traffic volume is high enough that there are no passing opportunities: in that case I take the lane of least resistance. If someone is camping the left lane and driving slower than me, I pass them on the right rather than flash my lights and try to show them the error of their ways. Passing on the right is, in fact, legal in WA state (surprisingly IMHO).
 
2014-03-28 02:16:50 PM  

OregonVet: Falin: OregonVet: Falin: In even littler-boy words- You're wrong.

You are wrong. You are not allowed to speed. The entire law is written to cover circumstances when someone is under the limit. Not to mention in the video she is passing other vehicles while this guy is on her ass. Show me where speeding in the law is permitted and I'll yield. You won't.

Sorry man, you're just flat-out wrong on this one. The laws governing keeping right in this state do not take speed limit into account. Some states do have a law that specifically says that if you're going the speed limit you don't have to get over. Washington isn't one of them.

Here, the chances of you getting pulled over for going the speed limit in the left lane and not moving right for traffic are higher than the chances of you getting pulled over for going 5 over the limit. Cops around here know. They know which behavior causes more traffic and safety issues, so they target it.

If you're in the left lane here doing 65 in a 60 and some guy gets up on your ass because he wants to do 80, you're legally required to move over. Full stop.

Yes, he's a douche for getting on your ass, but you're just as much of a douche for not getting over.

Washington is one, douche.

46.61.425
Minimum speed regulation - Passing slow moving vehicle.
(1) No person shall drive a motor vehicle at such a slow speed as to impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic except when reduced speed is necessary for safe operation or in compliance with law: PROVIDED, That a person following a vehicle driving at less than the legal maximum speed and desiring to pass such vehicle may exceed the speed limit, subject to the provisions of RCW http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.61&full=true#46.61.120 ">46.61.120 on highways having only one lane of traffic in each direction, at only such a speed and for only such a distance as is necessary to complete the pass with a reasonable margin of safety.

In all fairness, the I added "b ...


What are you talking about? That law has absolutely nothing to do with Keep Right Except to pass. This law is talking about passing on single lane road. This law is saying "if you're on a one-lane road and someone is going under the speed limit, it's ok to speed to pass them if you need to."

You really need to read these things more carefully.

You're not going to find what you're looking for. In Washington, if you're going the speed limit (or even faster) on a road with more than one lane traveling in your direction, Keep Right Except to Pass applies to you.

That's just the way it is. You're not going to find a law that contradicts that for Washington, because there isn't one. Sorry.
 
2014-03-28 02:17:19 PM  

petec: lack of warmth: Dog Welder: For those who missed it, there is no "passing lane" on this road.  She was planning on making a left turn so getting over into the right lane would not have been the proper move.

Also happy to see a road-raging, tailgating douche get what's coming to him, and glad he didn't hit other vehicles in the process.

I second this.  It is simply a four lane road, not an interstate.  There is a five lane road that I take to work that if I'm not in the lane I need 1.5 miles away from my turn, I'm not making my turn.  And I still get people riding my butt when I'm already stuck behind someone else.  I hope he stands as an example to others that if you don't have patience, you don't have license.

/I do wonder what this guy's Fark handle is though

If you can't manage to change lanes in a minute and a half (at 60 mph, 3 minutes at 30mph) you're the one who should be without a license. Patience my arse, that's incompetence.


So... did you not notice how they both overtook a white truck during that clip? Because I did. Which might have been why she was perfectly ok in the left lane, as she was actively passing people, dude was just being a dick because she wasn't doing it fast enough for his tiny brain.
 
2014-03-28 02:18:01 PM  

Ctrl-Alt-Del: You have a citation to show that this is the law "in most places"?


You have a citation to show that I stated "in most places"?
 
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2014-03-28 02:19:48 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: There are any number of reasons why someone may be in a rush that has absolutely nothing to do with what time they could have left.


Um... not in this universe?
 
2014-03-28 02:20:24 PM  

deanis: Am I missing something here or did every woman hatin' tough guy come out of the sticks in this thread?


I'm not about to say anything bad about her. Pretty sure she could kick my ass.
 
2014-03-28 02:20:51 PM  

SmokinTrees: Falin: OregonVet: Falin: In even littler-boy words- You're wrong.

You are wrong. You are not allowed to speed. The entire law is written to cover circumstances when someone is under the limit. Not to mention in the video she is passing other vehicles while this guy is on her ass. Show me where speeding in the law is permitted and I'll yield. You won't.

Sorry man, you're just flat-out wrong on this one. The laws governing keeping right in this state do not take speed limit into account. Some states do have a law that specifically says that if you're going the speed limit you don't have to get over. Washington isn't one of them.

Here, the chances of you getting pulled over for going the speed limit in the left lane and not moving right for traffic are higher than the chances of you getting pulled over for going 5 over the limit. Cops around here know. They know which behavior causes more traffic and safety issues, so they target it.

If you're in the left lane here doing 65 in a 60 and some guy gets up on your ass because he wants to do 80, you're legally required to move over. Full stop.

Yes, he's a douche for getting on your ass, but you're just as much of a douche for not getting over.

IMO this has nothing to do with being a douche, and more to do with being safe on the road.  The jerk that rides someone's ass to go 5mph faster is putting everyone in the general vicinity in danger.  Flash your lights, honk your horn, but don't ride my ass... I will brake check you.  And if you hit me, it will be your fault and I will win my lawsuit against you.  What this guy did accomplished exactly nothing (road rage never does).  Yes, there is something to be said for being a courteous driver and switching lanes when someone flies up behind you.  There is also something to be said for showing some patience.  Quote whatever laws you want, but he LOST.  And that makes me happy, given his shiatty driving.  Was she acting like a spoiled little child?  Sure.  That's still no exc ...


In many places deliberately checking someone makes you at fault regardless of how close they are.
 
2014-03-28 02:22:07 PM  

Bf+: DROxINxTHExWIND: By my rankings, this thread just pushed this debate to number 2 on the list of Farker groups that loathe one another:

5. Jews vs Palestinians
4. Bicyclists vs Car drivers
3. Pro-life vs Pro-choice
2. Tailgaters vs Lane cloggers
1. Conservatives vs Liberals

Excellent list.
I'd add:
Conservatives vs Women
Conservatives vs Minorities
Conservatives vs Poors
Conser... aw you get the joke.

But seriously, how about the great toilet paper over/under debate?
(which should be no debate at all.... grrr...)



Debate? Toilet paper should be rolled over for easier access. Anybody who would purposefully put toilet paper on a holder to be rolled under is an asshole who should not be trusted.
 
2014-03-28 02:22:28 PM  
Jument:

People (including you, apparently) make far too much out of trivial things. Drive how you want within reason and let others drive how they want within reason. There are far more important things to spend your mental energy on than whether or not some person you will never meet face-to-face is driving correctly.

^
So much THIS!!
 
2014-03-28 02:23:56 PM  
According to Florida law, the truck should have stayed in the right hand lane. Florida law states that all traffic should be in the right-most lane except under certain conditions. Wanting to go above the speed limit isn't one of those conditions. Preparing to turn left is one of those conditions.

http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2011/316.081

Unless the law has changed recently.

On a more theoretical level, tail gating is a fairly menacing maneuver. Last year, on the interstate, my wife was tail-gaited by a speeding truck. (With tinted windows, naturally). So she moved to the right hand lane. The truck, then, moved up alongside her and stayed there for several miles. When my wife slowed, the truck slowed. A vehicle of several thousand pounds is a deadly weapon and tracking her like that should be considered assault with a deadly weapon.
 
2014-03-28 02:24:07 PM  

Ctrl-Alt-Del: Falin: And, since the original statement made is objectively and demonstrably wrong, you don't really have a point. He made a false statement and I responded to it showing that it was false. End of story.

Except that, no, you didn't.  You haven't posted anything that says a driver must move to the right to allow another driver to pass at ANY speed, much less at speeds over the limit, which is what he challenged yo to do. For the most part, a drivers responsibilities under Keep Right laws have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with a vehicle behind him, and the staute you posted is no different. I'm surprised you're having so much difficulty understanding this - are you drunk?

But maybe I'm wrong. Here's the part you so condescendingly quoted:

The section that applies to roads with multiple lanes is this one:

(2) Upon all roadways having two or more lanes for traffic moving in the same direction, all vehicles shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic, except (a) when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction, (b) when traveling at a speed greater than the traffic flow, (c) when moving left to allow traffic to merge, or (d) when preparing for a left turn at an intersection, exit, or into a private road or driveway when such left turn is legally permitted. On any such roadway, a vehicle or combination over ten thousand pounds shall be driven only in the right-hand lane except under the conditions enumerated in (a) through (d) of this subsection.

Just use boldface to highlight the part that requires a driver to move to yield to an overtaking vehicle. Then everyone here will know how very smart you are, and how totally wrong he is. Or maybe you'll realize that you're not really making the point you think you are


I did exactly that. The Washington law applies regardless of speed. If you're in the left lane and not passing someone (or not about to make a left turn), you're in the wrong lane and need to move right, regardless of how fast you're going. You're right in the fact that it doesn't matter whether someone is behind you.

He said "There is no law in any state ever written that says anyone going the speed limit has to yield to a speeding driver. Go find one."

Washington's Keep Right law says exactly that. If you're in the left lane and you're not passing and there's a dude behind you, you're required to get out of their way, even if you're going the speed limit or greater. Technically you shouldn't even be in that lane in the first place, but no one's going to care unless a cop around here is in a really really bad mood.
 
2014-03-28 02:26:00 PM  

Falin: What are you talking about? That law has absolutely nothing to do with Keep Right Except to pass. This law is talking about passing on single lane road. This law is saying "if you're on a one-lane road and someone is going under the speed limit, it's ok to speed to pass them if you need to."


Yes, yes it does. It's out of that section. On a one-lane road you are allowed to pass at a safe acceleration even if it means over the limit is safely required. BUT it's also the section that describes passing a slower vehicle and the all caps, added by your legislature, says that passing a slower vehicle requires being below the speed limit. You won't find any other provision for passing someone while going over the limit. You aren't allowed to.
 
2014-03-28 02:27:41 PM  

SmokinTrees: Falin: OregonVet: Falin: In even littler-boy words- You're wrong.

You are wrong. You are not allowed to speed. The entire law is written to cover circumstances when someone is under the limit. Not to mention in the video she is passing other vehicles while this guy is on her ass. Show me where speeding in the law is permitted and I'll yield. You won't.

Sorry man, you're just flat-out wrong on this one. The laws governing keeping right in this state do not take speed limit into account. Some states do have a law that specifically says that if you're going the speed limit you don't have to get over. Washington isn't one of them.

Here, the chances of you getting pulled over for going the speed limit in the left lane and not moving right for traffic are higher than the chances of you getting pulled over for going 5 over the limit. Cops around here know. They know which behavior causes more traffic and safety issues, so they target it.

If you're in the left lane here doing 65 in a 60 and some guy gets up on your ass because he wants to do 80, you're legally required to move over. Full stop.

Yes, he's a douche for getting on your ass, but you're just as much of a douche for not getting over.

IMO this has nothing to do with being a douche, and more to do with being safe on the road.  The jerk that rides someone's ass to go 5mph faster is putting everyone in the general vicinity in danger.  Flash your lights, honk your horn, but don't ride my ass... I will brake check you.  And if you hit me, it will be your fault and I will win my lawsuit against you.  What this guy did accomplished exactly nothing (road rage never does).  Yes, there is something to be said for being a courteous driver and switching lanes when someone flies up behind you.  There is also something to be said for showing some patience.  Quote whatever laws you want, but he LOST.  And that makes me happy, given his shiatty driving.  Was she acting like a spoiled little child?  Sure.  That's still no exc ...


This is true both ways, though. the Keep Right laws exist for a reason, and when people disobey them, deliberately or not, they are causing a safety issue.

I don't condone tailgating at all. It's unsafe and rude and douchey and almost always makes the situation worse. Dude in the video got what was coming to him, and I would have laughed out loud if I'd seen it happen.

But deliberately staying on the left when you don't belong there is just as bad.
 
2014-03-28 02:27:46 PM  

justtray: Highways have intersections. Freeways do not.


Wat?  They don't call it the interstate freeway system.  Everywhere I've lived (east coast/mid-west/south) the words "highway", "expressway", and "freeway" are used interchangeably.

To be technically correct, limited-access [highways/freeways/expressways/interstates/tollways/parkways] do not have intersections, anything else might.
 
2014-03-28 02:30:10 PM  

OregonVet: Falin: What are you talking about? That law has absolutely nothing to do with Keep Right Except to pass. This law is talking about passing on single lane road. This law is saying "if you're on a one-lane road and someone is going under the speed limit, it's ok to speed to pass them if you need to."

Yes, yes it does. It's out of that section. On a one-lane road you are allowed to pass at a safe acceleration even if it means over the limit is safely required. BUT it's also the section that describes passing a slower vehicle and the all caps, added by your legislature, says that passing a slower vehicle requires being below the speed limit. You won't find any other provision for passing someone while going over the limit. You aren't allowed to.


This entire law applies to passing on one-lane roads. It has nothing to do with multiple lane roads. It's extremely clear. I have no idea how it can be interpreted any other way, given the wording of it.
 
2014-03-28 02:32:12 PM  
ReverendJynxed:

In many places deliberately checking someone makes you at fault regardless of how close they are.

That's not my first reaction.  Typically, I just let off the gas and coast down to the speed limit (like I said, I drive fast).  If I am still being tailed, then yes, I'll give the brakes a light tap.  Not enough to slow me down at all, but enough to flash the brake lights and make the bunghole of the person behind me tighten up a bit.

/Prove I brake-checked you after YOU slam into ME.  It's a tough sell to a cop...
 
2014-03-28 02:34:29 PM  

Falin: But deliberately staying on the left when you don't belong there is just as bad.


Agreed, which is why it is rule one of the whole damn section:

46.61.100
Keep right except when passing, etc.
(1) Upon all roadways of sufficient width a vehicle shall be driven upon the right half of the roadway, except as follows:

     (a) When overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction under the rules governing such movement;

This (your cited) rules thing governing such movement is the damn speed limit among all the others (like blinkers, lane changing, etc). She was in the law on that part. Passing people even. STFU&GBTW.
 
2014-03-28 02:35:27 PM  
Falin:
the Keep Right laws exist for a reason, and when people disobey them, deliberately or not, they are causing a safety issue.

Please explain how driving in the right lane, when the left lane is open causes a safety issue.  Not trying to be a jerk here, I'd really like some insight from someone who is obviously well-versed in the law.
 
2014-03-28 02:36:30 PM  

Dog Welder: For those who missed it, there is no "passing lane" on this road. She was planning on making a left turn so getting over into the right lane would not have been the proper move.


I might have bought that if not for the repeated lefts she doesn't make and then the maniacal laughter at the end.  She was going faster than the flatbed in the right lane so moving over would've put her up his ass.
 
2014-03-28 02:37:18 PM  

loaba: liam76: OregonVet: liam76: She didn't have a turn coming up.

Are you a mind reader now? She said she did. How do you know she didn't? Even if by your judgement her turn was too far down the road she wasn't misusing the lane.

The video was two minutes, she didn't have to turn anytime soon.

And yes , she did misuse the lane. Legally she didn't ( but morally she was still being a coont) for not moving over, but when she sped up to keep him from passing she did legally.

Doesn't excuse the guy for being an asshole, but by speeding up when he was passing and videotaping made her just as much of an asshole.


That's how you know it was personal for both of them. Dude finally got around her (and she knew that's what he wanted all along) and she just had to speed up say "hi". That's what makes her a dick. His dickery is not absolved, he should have calmed the fark down and just been happy he managed to get around the coont.


Are you sure she sped up, and he wasn't speeding up and slowing down to make sure she saw him? Because given her actions and his actions, I'd think it's much more likely that he was doing the changing of velocity...
 
2014-03-28 02:38:40 PM  

SmokinTrees: ReverendJynxed:

In many places deliberately checking someone makes you at fault regardless of how close they are.

That's not my first reaction.  Typically, I just let off the gas and coast down to the speed limit (like I said, I drive fast).  If I am still being tailed, then yes, I'll give the brakes a light tap.  Not enough to slow me down at all, but enough to flash the brake lights and make the bunghole of the person behind me tighten up a bit.

/Prove I brake-checked you after YOU slam into ME.  It's a tough sell to a cop...


In fender benders people that make contact from behind are almost ALWAYS at fault. Don't tailgate.
 
2014-03-28 02:38:54 PM  

TiMthisIS: Dog Welder: For those who missed it, there is no "passing lane" on this road. She was planning on making a left turn so getting over into the right lane would not have been the proper move.

I might have bought that if not for the repeated lefts she doesn't make and then the maniacal laughter at the end.  She was going faster than the flatbed in the right lane so moving over would've put her up his ass.


And after he passes her and stays in the right lane, she speeds up and passes him again.  Probably getting ready to box him in.  At that point, he speeds up, passes her flipping her off and wipes out when he attempts to get into the center lane.
 
2014-03-28 02:40:09 PM  

deanis: Mr. Cat Poop: Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: Yeah, guy drove like a dumbass and paid for it, but that women needs her ass kicked.

Did you see the women? She's suffered enough.

She looks like Ellen Page with 125 extra pounds on her.

Am I missing something here or did every woman hatin' tough guy come out of the sticks in this thread?


I'm not hating women, just saying she could be a really cute lesbian if she dropped a few stone.
 
2014-03-28 02:43:08 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: whatsupchuck: If you're in that much of a goddamn rush to get where you're headed, leave five minutes earlier.

I always love this solution. There are any number of reasons why someone may be in a rush that has absolutely nothing to do with what time they could have left.


It's the one degree of freedom in your "getting to the gym in 26 minutes" problem that you have the most control over, because there are even more reasons why traffic isn't going to sympathize with your dilemma.
 
2014-03-28 02:47:56 PM  

loaba: Cerebral Ballsy: quantum_csc: adragontattoo: Dancin_In_Anson: I wonder why everyone is in such a farking hurry to get to the next red light.

I always laugh when I am in town and someone hauls ass as soon as the light turns green.  I always make sure to applaud and congratulate them on winning the race to the red light.  I then profusely apologize for taking so long to arrive.  Best so far was the guy who "raced" me to 5 consecutive red lights.  I was very ashamed that I managed to lose to him so many times.  The cops even pulled him over to congratulate him (I assume that is why they pulled a U-turn and started up their disco lights.)

You never know, one of those times you might be fast enough to barely make the next light and then you are golden.  If I can shave 10% off my driving time by going faster that equals at least 24 hours a year I am NOT spending in my car.  If you want to drive the speed limit and spend an extra couple of MONTHS sitting in your car over the course of your life then know yourself out.

As someone with a moderately heavy foot, I've never understood the superiority of that guy who drives the speed limit. "I'll see you at the next light".. Not likely. I'll make the green and you won't and that will be the last I hear from you. I don't care one way or the other usually.. Unless there's some reason I have to be speeding.

While riding with my friend who irritatingly drives less than the speed limit all the time, it takes forever to get anywhere. I could swear sometimes it takes twice as long, even though I don't drive twice as fast.

I started watching traffic patterns, and I saw that because my friend goes slow, lots of people change lanes in front of him, which puts him even further back at lights.. Lights I would have passed through on the cycle before during the green. Same deal on the highway. I watched the difference between him and another car he was following; as people merged in, they pushed my friend further back behind the car he was trying ...


As a heavy-foot driver, I can tell you that you're pretty well wrong. If you and your buddy took seperate cars, he's probably only 2 or 3 minutes behind you. But you do get there first.


I'm talking about longer drives. We like to take road trips to go diving.

He had a driver tail him and get rude this past weekend. I started taping it because the other driver was pretty erratic. My friend said he was going to "follow" the other driver to see what happened.

My friend can't keep up with an aggressive driver, he just lacks the jerk quality to weave in traffic, so the rager got further and further ahead. I noticed that with every on-ramp we passed, more and more drivers ended up between my friend and Mr. Ragey.

That's the real reason my friend ends up so far behind, it's the congestion, not just the fact that he drives 15-20 mph less than I do.
 
2014-03-28 02:49:01 PM  

Bf+: Gecko Gingrich: There are any number of reasons why someone may be in a rush that has absolutely nothing to do with what time they could have left.

Um... not in this universe?


My daughter's school bus comes at 7:41 in the morning. Unless you are suggesting that I leave a 5 year old alone to get herself ready and to the bus stop, I cannot leave before 7:41.

I cannot control the guy who decided to kill himself by jumping off the bridge I have to cross to get to work. Unless you're suggesting I leave two hours early every day, just in case some dude decides life just isn't worth living anymore.

If you will promise me that leaving 5 minutes early will guarantee that my house will never catch fire, or that my wife will never fall and break her leg, or that my dad won't ever have a stroke, then I will always leave five minutes early.

I know it's easy to just paint the other guy as 100% at fault for his predicament, allowing you to remove any feelings of empathy you might have, which then allow you to be a selfish, self-absorbed dick.
 
2014-03-28 02:53:52 PM  

OregonVet: Falin: But deliberately staying on the left when you don't belong there is just as bad.

Agreed, which is why it is rule one of the whole damn section:

46.61.100
Keep right except when passing, etc.
(1) Upon all roadways of sufficient width a vehicle shall be driven upon the right half of the roadway, except as follows:

     (a) When overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction under the rules governing such movement;

This (your cited) rules thing governing such movement is the damn speed limit among all the others (like blinkers, lane changing, etc). She was in the law on that part. Passing people even. STFU&GBTW.


Dude. Seriously. This has already been explained to you.

What you're quoting is part of 46.61.100 section (1).

RCW 46.61.100
Keep right except when passing, etc.
(1) Upon all roadways of sufficient width a vehicle shall be driven upon the right half of the roadway, except as follows:

     (a) When overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction under the rules governing such movement;


Section (1) of this law applies to what lane you're in when you're on a roadway that is either single-lane in each direction or single-lane in each direction with a center turn lane (people around here call them suicide lanes).

Subsection (a) of Section (1), which you keep quoting, says that when you're on a road that has one lane in your direction, stay in that lane unless you're passing someone, and when you pass them follow the passing rules (the rules governing such movement). That's why your other link (which is indeed the rules governing such movement) ONLY talks about passing on a single lane roadway.

The Keep Right Except to Pass law that we're talking about here is covered in Section (2) of 46.61.100:

(2) Upon all roadways having two or more lanes for traffic moving in the same direction, all vehicles shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic, except (a) when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction, (b) when traveling at a speed greater than the traffic flow, (c) when moving left to allow traffic to merge, or (d) when preparing for a left turn at an intersection, exit, or into a private road or driveway when such left turn is legally permitted. On any such roadway, a vehicle or combination over ten thousand pounds shall be driven only in the right-hand lane except under the conditions enumerated in (a) through (d) of this subsection.

Follow?
 
2014-03-28 02:53:54 PM  

Loreweaver: sammyk: BizarreMan: I'm not entirely sure who the jackass is in this particular scenario.

Not to excuse his actions but:

She claims that the road conditions are wet and slick so she doesn't want to speed.  Given the results of speeding and swerving being a crash, she may be correct.

There was apparently enough distance/time for her to get far enough past the car she was passing for him to pass them, cut to the right lane, and then pass her.  Plenty of time for her to get over, let him by, and then move back over to the left lane for her turn.

If it's so dangerous to be on the wet roads, taking care not to wreck.  It should be too dangerous for her to be taking one hand off the wheel and grab her cell phone.  At which point she then finds the app, and aims the phone in his general direction.  Even if she wasn't watching what was being recorded while driving.  That isn't safe driving.  It's damn dangerous.  If the conditions are so bad.

She says on the video and articles that she's made recordings like this before which tells me that she is a passive-aggressive left lane Nazi with AW tendencies.  I'm curious how many other videos she has on YouTube where drivers are being incited to road rage.

Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil but I don't taunt them and do stupid crap like wrecking my car. Then again I drive a SRT8 so blowing them up with that load as hell exhaust is kind of fun.

If LE actually enforced 'slower traffic keep right' we could fix a few traffic problems in tis country.

"Slower Traffic Keep Right" does not apply to boulevards with intersections. It only applies to highways with on/off ramps.


Why do you keep saying this? You're incorrect.

In Florida, a highway isn't just a tollway or an interstate with on ramps and off ramps. The rule of slower drivers keep right is a ticketable offense when it's a two lane, non-residential highway, with or without intersections.

Highway 27 is a good example. I've seen people get tickets on that road for not passing in the left lane. It has intersections, but it's a two lane highway in rural parts.
 
2014-03-28 02:57:50 PM  
Whizzing arund in our Tonka toys like we're the only ones on the road.  Like if we get to act like we're the only ones on he road, we win.  Here's an idea.  The world is a lot more crowded than it once was.  So are the streets.  If you can't function with some degree of civility and realistic expectations as to the flow of traffic, buy a bus pass.  Those drivers are super careful and they usually have a stop within a mile of where you live.
 
2014-03-28 02:59:43 PM  

Falin: Dude. Seriously. This has already been explained to you.

"We understand it can be frustrating for drivers when you have other motorists camped out in the left lane," said WSP Captain Ron Rupke, District 5 commander. "But this also doesn't mean motorists can drive in an aggressive manner or use the left lane to speed."


WSP=your state trooper
 
2014-03-28 03:01:20 PM  

SmokinTrees: Falin:
the Keep Right laws exist for a reason, and when people disobey them, deliberately or not, they are causing a safety issue.

Please explain how driving in the right lane, when the left lane is open causes a safety issue.  Not trying to be a jerk here, I'd really like some insight from someone who is obviously well-versed in the law.


Essentially, slower traffice keeps to the right laneand facilitates turning off into side streets and retail establishments while leaving the left lane open for passing and traffic heading out of town, and this ensures a smoother flow of traffic.
 
2014-03-28 03:02:41 PM  

tripleseven: StrangeQ: Cerebral Ballsy: quantum_csc: adragontattoo: Dancin_In_Anson: I wonder why everyone is in such a farking hurry to get to the next red light.

I always laugh when I am in town and someone hauls ass as soon as the light turns green.  I always make sure to applaud and congratulate them on winning the race to the red light.  I then profusely apologize for taking so long to arrive.  Best so far was the guy who "raced" me to 5 consecutive red lights.  I was very ashamed that I managed to lose to him so many times.  The cops even pulled him over to congratulate him (I assume that is why they pulled a U-turn and started up their disco lights.)

You never know, one of those times you might be fast enough to barely make the next light and then you are golden.  If I can shave 10% off my driving time by going faster that equals at least 24 hours a year I am NOT spending in my car.  If you want to drive the speed limit and spend an extra couple of MONTHS sitting in your car over the course of your life then know yourself out.

As someone with a moderately heavy foot, I've never understood the superiority of that guy who drives the speed limit. "I'll see you at the next light".. Not likely. I'll make the green and you won't and that will be the last I hear from you. I don't care one way or the other usually.. Unless there's some reason I have to be speeding.

While riding with my friend who irritatingly drives less than the speed limit all the time, it takes forever to get anywhere. I could swear sometimes it takes twice as long, even though I don't drive twice as fast.

I started watching traffic patterns, and I saw that because my friend goes slow, lots of people change lanes in front of him, which puts him even further back at lights.. Lights I would have passed through on the cycle before during the green. Same deal on the highway. I watched the difference between him and another car he was following; as people merged in, they pushed my friend further back behind the car he w ...

Hey, yeah, why not drive like the pre-agree traffic control devices don't exist.  Those only apply to morons.


Actually, the speed limit is calculated based on what a certain percentile of people drive (I think it was the 68th percentile)?

In any case, traffic planners know there are speeders, computer generated traffic models plan for it, and people driving at different rates helps traffic move along smoothly (given that no one gets ragey).

I don't equate mental acuity with driving speed. My friend who goes slow is a programmer with a high IQ.

Although the general population has shown themselves to be morons incapable of performing even the most basic math and logic, an prefer watching TMZ over anything educational, I will admit most people are fine drivers. You simpletons do amaze me at times.
 
2014-03-28 03:03:04 PM  

OregonVet: Falin: Dude. Seriously. This has already been explained to you.

"We understand it can be frustrating for drivers when you have other motorists camped out in the left lane," said WSP Captain Ron Rupke, District 5 commander. "But this also doesn't mean motorists can drive in an aggressive manner or use the left lane to speed."

WSP=your state trooper


Of course. Speeding is illegal. I think we all know that.

You still have to Keep Right Except to Pass even if you're going the speed limit (or faster) in Washington, though. It's the law.
 
2014-03-28 03:06:31 PM  

OregonVet: Falin: It doesn't matter if the person on the left is going the speed limit or not.

From your post, LOL, emphasis added:

(1) Upon all roadways of sufficient width a vehicle shall be driven upon the right half of the roadway, except as follows:
     (a) When overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction under the rules governing such movement;

In little boy words- NOT speeding.


you missed this part ..

(4) It is a traffic infraction to drive continuously in the left lane of a multilane roadway when it impedes the flow of other traffic.

no clause, ifs, ands, or buts.

You Sir are completely and utterly incorrect

/the best kind of incorrect
 
2014-03-28 03:08:28 PM  

Conservative Humor: DROxINxTHExWIND: By my rankings, this thread just pushed this debate to number 2 on the list of Farker groups that loathe one another:

5. Jews vs Palestinians
4. Bicyclists vs Car drivers
3. Pro-life vs Pro-choice
2. Tailgaters vs Lane cloggers
1. Conservatives vs Liberals

You have Jews v. Palestinians ranked above gun grabbers v. gun nuts?


Jews v. Palestinians is really just American conservatives v. American liberals, seeing as not too many Jews and Palestinians frequent Fark.
 
2014-03-28 03:13:27 PM  

OregonVet: Falin: Dude. Seriously. This has already been explained to you.

"We understand it can be frustrating for drivers when you have other motorists camped out in the left lane," said WSP Captain Ron Rupke, District 5 commander. "But this also doesn't mean motorists can drive in an aggressive manner or use the left lane to speed."

WSP=your state trooper


Oh, and in case one example wasn't enough, Virginia is the same way:

http://www.fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2006/022006/02092006/166829

Tyler said that applies even if the vehicle trying to pass is speeding, following too closely or operating in any other reckless manner.

"Leave it up to police officers to deal with any violations they might be committing. We'll handle that," he said. "But the law still requires you to move to the right and let them pass."

He noted that the law and common sense both are served by getting out of the way of a driver who's anxious and intent on passing.
 
2014-03-28 03:14:09 PM  

SmokinTrees: ReverendJynxed:

In many places deliberately checking someone makes you at fault regardless of how close they are.

That's not my first reaction.  Typically, I just let off the gas and coast down to the speed limit (like I said, I drive fast).  If I am still being tailed, then yes, I'll give the brakes a light tap.  Not enough to slow me down at all, but enough to flash the brake lights and make the bunghole of the person behind me tighten up a bit.

/Prove I brake-checked you after YOU slam into ME.  It's a tough sell to a cop...


It's still illegal. But that's ok, you go on breaking the law because all that matters is you and what you get out of it right?

And no it really isn't a tough sell. If you can lie about the issue so can the other party. He swerved in front of me and cut me off.
I would have hit him harder if I wasn't watching for the inappropriate lane change. Prove you didn't.
 
2014-03-28 03:16:21 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: Ctrl-Alt-Del: You have a citation to show that this is the law "in most places"?

You have a citation to show that I stated "in most places"?


Well, since you put it that way, I'll just have to say no, I don't. Apparently "many jurisdictions"  confused and befuddled me.

So strike that whole first sentence and change it to "Meh, I don't know about "many," the Keep Right laws I'm familiar with... etc
 
2014-03-28 03:19:51 PM  

Falin: OregonVet: Falin: Dude. Seriously. This has already been explained to you.

"We understand it can be frustrating for drivers when you have other motorists camped out in the left lane," said WSP Captain Ron Rupke, District 5 commander. "But this also doesn't mean motorists can drive in an aggressive manner or use the left lane to speed."

WSP=your state trooper

Of course. Speeding is illegal. I think we all know that.

You still have to Keep Right Except to Pass even if you're going the speed limit (or faster) in Washington, though. It's the law.


He's got to be one of those left-lane pace car assholes that thinks he has the right to keep people at or below the limit in the left lane while people continue to pass on the right (which is illegal but they are being forced to do so because ass-car refuses to move to the right.)

Folks, you have the right go drive below the limit (when you aren't given a minimum to abide by) but not hold up others in doing so. If the cars are going to fast for you to manage in a safe manner, take public transportation.
 
2014-03-28 03:20:31 PM  

Ctrl-Alt-Del: Well, since you put it that way, I'll just have to say no, I don't. Apparently "many jurisdictions" confused and befuddled me.

So strike that whole first sentence and change it to "Meh, I don't know about "many," the Keep Right laws I'm familiar with... etc



Link
 
2014-03-28 03:20:46 PM  

ReverendJynxed: SmokinTrees: ReverendJynxed:

In many places deliberately checking someone makes you at fault regardless of how close they are.

That's not my first reaction.  Typically, I just let off the gas and coast down to the speed limit (like I said, I drive fast).  If I am still being tailed, then yes, I'll give the brakes a light tap.  Not enough to slow me down at all, but enough to flash the brake lights and make the bunghole of the person behind me tighten up a bit.

/Prove I brake-checked you after YOU slam into ME.  It's a tough sell to a cop...

It's still illegal. But that's ok, you go on breaking the law because all that matters is you and what you get out of it right?

And no it really isn't a tough sell. If you can lie about the issue so can the other party. He swerved in front of me and cut me off.
I would have hit him harder if I wasn't watching for the inappropriate lane change. Prove you didn't.


This is why I have a dash cam.  No he said, she said.  It is also why I drive responsibly.
 
2014-03-28 03:21:45 PM  

SmokinTrees: Falin:
the Keep Right laws exist for a reason, and when people disobey them, deliberately or not, they are causing a safety issue.

Please explain how driving in the right lane, when the left lane is open causes a safety issue.  Not trying to be a jerk here, I'd really like some insight from someone who is obviously well-versed in the law.


Assuming you mean please explain... LEFT lane:

Because you are contributing to road rage. It's against the law, you are trolling someone who could quite possibly be having a legitimate emergency, or someone who could be criminally aggressive. You are putting everyone around you at increased risk for an accident, no different than the aggressor is.
 
2014-03-28 03:23:25 PM  
SmokinTrees:
/Prove I brake-checked you after YOU slam into ME.  It's a tough sell to a cop...

And that is the reason I run a dashcam...
 
2014-03-28 03:24:46 PM  

Cerebral Ballsy: Conservative Humor: DROxINxTHExWIND: By my rankings, this thread just pushed this debate to number 2 on the list of Farker groups that loathe one another:

5. Jews vs Palestinians
4. Bicyclists vs Car drivers
3. Pro-life vs Pro-choice
2. Tailgaters vs Lane cloggers
1. Conservatives vs Liberals

You have Jews v. Palestinians ranked above gun grabbers v. gun nuts?

Jews v. Palestinians is really just American conservatives v. American liberals, seeing as not too many Jews and Palestinians frequent Fark.


Ouch, I meant Israelis and Palestinians

Grumble grumble Dro said it first
 
2014-03-28 03:27:26 PM  

moike: SmokinTrees:
/Prove I brake-checked you after YOU slam into ME.  It's a tough sell to a cop...

And that is the reason I run a dashcam...


Dash cam won't help you there in Florida. We're a no-fault state. Driver in the rear is always at fault, although some cases where a person cut a driver off and then slammed brakes have been won under a "impeded right of way" defense.
 
2014-03-28 03:30:21 PM  

ReverendJynxed: SmokinTrees: ReverendJynxed:

In many places deliberately checking someone makes you at fault regardless of how close they are.

That's not my first reaction.  Typically, I just let off the gas and coast down to the speed limit (like I said, I drive fast).  If I am still being tailed, then yes, I'll give the brakes a light tap.  Not enough to slow me down at all, but enough to flash the brake lights and make the bunghole of the person behind me tighten up a bit.

/Prove I brake-checked you after YOU slam into ME.  It's a tough sell to a cop...

It's still illegal. But that's ok, you go on breaking the law because all that matters is you and what you get out of it right?

And no it really isn't a tough sell. If you can lie about the issue so can the other party. He swerved in front of me and cut me off.
I would have hit him harder if I wasn't watching for the inappropriate lane change. Prove you didn't.


If you can't brake in time, then you should have been further back.  As an example, I was a passenger in a car accident that happened at a stop light.  The at-fault driver hit the car behind my buddy, who then hit him.  My buddy successfully sued the guy behind him and won.  I'm sure that THAT guy then sued the crap outta the guy that caused the accident in the first place, but the theory still holds true.  All of this is why Michigan is a no-fault state.  However, as the person who was struck from behind, in a court of law, I would win.  And yes, that is what matters when dealing with inconsiderate jerkwads who intimidate other drivers and make the roads an even more hazardous place.
Right, wrong, it's all relative.  Quote laws all you want, a judge will rarely, if ever, back the guy that rear-ends another car.
 
2014-03-28 03:30:28 PM  

SmokinTrees: ReverendJynxed:

In many places deliberately checking someone makes you at fault regardless of how close they are.

That's not my first reaction.  Typically, I just let off the gas and coast down to the speed limit (like I said, I drive fast).  If I am still being tailed, then yes, I'll give the brakes a light tap.  Not enough to slow me down at all, but enough to flash the brake lights and make the bunghole of the person behind me tighten up a bit.

/Prove I brake-checked you after YOU slam into ME.  It's a tough sell to a cop...


Why don't you just get over? I do, and I speed all the time. Why the need to block someone?
 
2014-03-28 03:33:47 PM  

Falin: You still have to Keep Right Except to Pass even if you're going the speed limit (or faster) in Washington, though. It's the law.


In all fairness, it's actually keep right except to pass, turn left, are going faster that the flow of traffic or to allow a car to merge. She said she was going to be turning left, at some point. The law doesn't make clear how long you can hang around in the left lane if planning on turning left.
 
2014-03-28 03:34:51 PM  

ReverendJynxed: SmokinTrees: ReverendJynxed:

In many places deliberately checking someone makes you at fault regardless of how close they are.

That's not my first reaction.  Typically, I just let off the gas and coast down to the speed limit (like I said, I drive fast).  If I am still being tailed, then yes, I'll give the brakes a light tap.  Not enough to slow me down at all, but enough to flash the brake lights and make the bunghole of the person behind me tighten up a bit.

/Prove I brake-checked you after YOU slam into ME.  It's a tough sell to a cop...

It's still illegal. But that's ok, you go on breaking the law because all that matters is you and what you get out of it right?

And no it really isn't a tough sell. If you can lie about the issue so can the other party. He swerved in front of me and cut me off.
I would have hit him harder if I wasn't watching for the inappropriate lane change. Prove you didn't.



You could say that, but unless there are witnesses or a dash cam, then the rear car is at fault due to Failing to Stop in an Assured Clear Distance, which is why there are scams doing just that.  Without massive proof the police aren't going to believe you, nor care.  it will be written up like  Unit 1 stopped, unit 2 couldn't, so unit 2 was following too closely.   Unless the insurance company notices a trend of the same accusations against the person the insurance of the rear car is going to pay end of story.
 
2014-03-28 03:37:06 PM  

Cerebral Ballsy: Why don't you just get over? I do, and I speed all the time. Why the need to block someone?


That's what I don't get either. I routinely speed. I just as routinely get over when someone comes up behind me. Single lane, multi-lane, left lane, right lane, highway, surface street...I don't care. If conditions permit, you won't even know that it was you who caused me to move over, as I would have already noticed you closing on me and gotten out of your way. I pull into the right lane, the left lane, onto shoulders, side-streets, the center turn lane, whatever.

/Oh, and my link above may be a little outdated, as I found out that Maryland, for example, does have a law forbidding impeding traffic.
 
2014-03-28 03:37:07 PM  

Cerebral Ballsy: SmokinTrees: ReverendJynxed:

In many places deliberately checking someone makes you at fault regardless of how close they are.

That's not my first reaction.  Typically, I just let off the gas and coast down to the speed limit (like I said, I drive fast).  If I am still being tailed, then yes, I'll give the brakes a light tap.  Not enough to slow me down at all, but enough to flash the brake lights and make the bunghole of the person behind me tighten up a bit.

/Prove I brake-checked you after YOU slam into ME.  It's a tough sell to a cop...

Why don't you just get over? I do, and I speed all the time. Why the need to block someone?


I do!  All the time!  I despise traffic-blockers as much as the next person.  However, when I am passing other people on the road, like the woman in the video, or there simply is too much traffic and it'd be going out of my way and the jerk behind me continues to tailgate... well, that pisses me off and it's game on.  I never slam on my brakes, just tap them to flash the taillights.  Harmless.  If he can't take it and gets all road-ragey, that's his prerogative.

moike: SmokinTrees:
/Prove I brake-checked you after YOU slam into ME.  It's a tough sell to a cop...

And that is the reason I run a dashcam...


Which would also prove that you were tailgating me.
 
2014-03-28 03:38:25 PM  
People sure get upset about other people's driving. Try to give them some room, relax, understand, laugh at some instant karma, and above all:

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2014-03-28 03:43:26 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Debate? Toilet paper should be rolled over for easier access. Anybody who would purposefully put toilet paper on a holder to be rolled under is an asshole who should not be trusted.


Of course you know this means war.
 
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2014-03-28 03:46:20 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: Bf+: Gecko Gingrich: There are any number of reasons why someone may be in a rush that has absolutely nothing to do with what time they could have left.

Um... not in this universe?

My daughter's school bus comes at 7:41 in the morning. Unless you are suggesting that I leave a 5 year old alone to get herself ready and to the bus stop, I cannot leave before 7:41.

I cannot control the guy who decided to kill himself by jumping off the bridge I have to cross to get to work. Unless you're suggesting I leave two hours early every day, just in case some dude decides life just isn't worth living anymore.

If you will promise me that leaving 5 minutes early will guarantee that my house will never catch fire, or that my wife will never fall and break her leg, or that my dad won't ever have a stroke, then I will always leave five minutes early.

I know it's easy to just paint the other guy as 100% at fault for his predicament, allowing you to remove any feelings of empathy you might have, which then allow you to be a selfish, self-absorbed dick.



Well, that escalated quickly.
 
2014-03-28 03:46:40 PM  

Nix Nightbird: I drive all across the state as part of my job, and I have determined the following:

If you aren't on freeway the whole time, continually going 15-20 mph over the speed limit during a 50-mile trip gets you to your destination approximately 2 minutes faster.

Two. Minutes.

...

Check your math.  At 15mph over on a 50 mile trip @55mph zone you are saving ~12 minutes.

Anyway if this was a freeway I would say the woman was equally in the wrong in a road rage incident but this was a road with left turns and you typically expect people to be in the lane they are going to turn out of.  I know her type and I have no doubt she would lie to make her position look more favorable.

The guy got what is coming to him and she is going to get the fame she wanted....from the internet in exactly the right way.
 
2014-03-28 03:51:03 PM  

OregonVet: Falin: OregonVet: Falin: In even littler-boy words- You're wrong.

You are wrong. You are not allowed to speed. The entire law is written to cover circumstances when someone is under the limit. Not to mention in the video she is passing other vehicles while this guy is on her ass. Show me where speeding in the law is permitted and I'll yield. You won't.

Sorry man, you're just flat-out wrong on this one. The laws governing keeping right in this state do not take speed limit into account. Some states do have a law that specifically says that if you're going the speed limit you don't have to get over. Washington isn't one of them.

Here, the chances of you getting pulled over for going the speed limit in the left lane and not moving right for traffic are higher than the chances of you getting pulled over for going 5 over the limit. Cops around here know. They know which behavior causes more traffic and safety issues, so they target it.

If you're in the left lane here doing 65 in a 60 and some guy gets up on your ass because he wants to do 80, you're legally required to move over. Full stop.

Yes, he's a douche for getting on your ass, but you're just as much of a douche for not getting over.

Washington is one, douche.

46.61.425
Minimum speed regulation - Passing slow moving vehicle.
(1) No person shall drive a motor vehicle at such a slow speed as to impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic except when reduced speed is necessary for safe operation or in compliance with law: PROVIDED, That a person following a vehicle driving at less than the legal maximum speed and desiring to pass such vehicle may exceed the speed limit, subject to the provisions of RCW http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.61&full=true#46.61.120 ">46.61.120 on highways having only one lane of traffic in each direction, at only such a speed and for only such a distance as is necessary to complete the pass with a reasonable margin of safety.

In all fairness, the I added "b ...


i dont like to get into these fights, but do you know what you quoted has no bearing on what you're trying to prove?  that law just states that i can speed if i want to pass you on the left on a 1 lane (each direction) highway and you are going at most the speed limit.  It doesn't back up your point about speed limits and having to move right at all as this point is meant to clarify that you can still pass left into oncoming traffic, above the speed limit, when there is no opportunity for the slower driver to get right.

I don't think that's what you were trying to point out.

I'm not trying to pile on you, but when you make a point against someone in a thread, it's usually proper practice to understand what you are posting and to ensure that it is relevant to the topic at hand.  Nothing wrong with admitting you are wrong and moving on... but to be snarky, i guess that's also why you don't move to the right when someone wants to pass you.

 
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2014-03-28 03:52:54 PM  
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2014-03-28 03:54:18 PM  

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Well, that was the wrong thread...

Mods, could you kindly delete?
/Just kidding... Fark doesn't have Mods.
 
2014-03-28 03:57:23 PM  
I'm thinking he was temporarily blinded once he got a good look at her.
 
2014-03-28 03:57:51 PM  

SmokinTrees: Cerebral Ballsy: SmokinTrees: ReverendJynxed:

In many places deliberately checking someone makes you at fault regardless of how close they are.

That's not my first reaction.  Typically, I just let off the gas and coast down to the speed limit (like I said, I drive fast).  If I am still being tailed, then yes, I'll give the brakes a light tap.  Not enough to slow me down at all, but enough to flash the brake lights and make the bunghole of the person behind me tighten up a bit.

/Prove I brake-checked you after YOU slam into ME.  It's a tough sell to a cop...

Why don't you just get over? I do, and I speed all the time. Why the need to block someone?

I do!  All the time!  I despise traffic-blockers as much as the next person.  However, when I am passing other people on the road, like the woman in the video, or there simply is too much traffic and it'd be going out of my way and the jerk behind me continues to tailgate... well, that pisses me off and it's game on.  I never slam on my brakes, just tap them to flash the taillights.  Harmless.  If he can't take it and gets all road-ragey, that's his prerogative.

moike: SmokinTrees:
/Prove I brake-checked you after YOU slam into ME.  It's a tough sell to a cop...

And that is the reason I run a dashcam...

Which would also prove that you were tailgating me.


Obviously didn't read my earlier posts...

I don't tailgate.

But I have been cruising along in the right lane and had asshats change lanes into my safe buffer zone shaving my front bumper by inches and then slam on their brakes for no apparent reason at all.

So far years of practice braking vehicles right to the bleeding edge of control have saved my ass.  But the HD dashcam is a good secondary source of unquestionable truth if I do make contact with one of these morons.
 
2014-03-28 04:00:36 PM  
there are only two types of drivers worse than left lane nazis.

people who break check you (regardless of lane) and people who try to high-beam you after you pass them.
 
2014-03-28 04:01:27 PM  

Gonz: [Sarcastically] If you're driving in the left lane, it doesn't matter how fast you're going. If the car behind you wants to go faster, that's your problem, and you'd better let them pass you or you're wrong.


Gecko Gingrich: It's not because this is Fark. It's because in many jurisdictions it is the law. *Expressly* the law.


Ctrl-Alt-Del: Meh, I don't know about "many," the Keep Right laws I'm familiar with require you to stay in the righmost lane unless you are passing, or unless you are approaching a left turn - they do NOT require you to move out of the way of an overtaking vehicle,

Gecko Gingrich: Link

From your link: "Six states require drivers to move right if they are blocking traffic in the left lane"

"Six" is not "many" when discussing US states
 
2014-03-28 04:06:07 PM  

Cerebral Ballsy: Dash cam won't help you there in Florida. We're a no-fault state. Driver in the rear is always at fault,


No.

Rear-End Collisions and Recovery of Damages in Florida
While it is true that in Florida there is a presumption that the driver who rear-ended another vehicle was the sole cause of the accident, the rear-ending driver can rebut that presumption by producing evidence that shows that the accident was not caused solely by his or her negligence (fault).

The rear driver can do so by showing that the front driver had some fault in it as well, such as; suddenly or unexpectedly stopping, unexpectedly changing lanes or that the vehicle had a mechanical failure. If the rear driver fairly and reasonably shows or rebuts the presumption of negligence, the jury then determines the issue of the rear driver's negligence and determines the damages.
 
2014-03-28 04:06:29 PM  

tforbes: there are only two types of drivers worse than left lane nazis.

people who break check you (regardless of lane) and people who try to high-beam you after you pass them.


One usually follows the other.  Every time I'm driving in some shiathole like NJ or MA and give someone on the interstate the "please move over" headlight flash, they give a pretend brake-check instead of moving.  When I eventually pass them on the right, they will zip in behind me and try to melt my retinas.

Usually this earns them a real brake check since they love to follow at 10ft or less.

Listen people, this shiat is simple.

1. If someone behind you wants to go by, just get out of their way.  No need for drama.
2. If someone in front of you won't move over, just go around them.  No need for drama.

That said the actual WORST are the hoodrats with the fake blue HIDs, or worse, real HIDs mounted in factory headlight housings.  If this is you, kill yourself.
 
2014-03-28 04:08:56 PM  

Ctrl-Alt-Del: Cerebral Ballsy: Dash cam won't help you there in Florida. We're a no-fault state. Driver in the rear is always at fault,

No.

Rear-End Collisions and Recovery of Damages in Florida
While it is true that in Florida there is a presumption that the driver who rear-ended another vehicle was the sole cause of the accident, the rear-ending driver can rebut that presumption by producing evidence that shows that the accident was not caused solely by his or her negligence (fault).

The rear driver can do so by showing that the front driver had some fault in it as well, such as; suddenly or unexpectedly stopping, unexpectedly changing lanes or that the vehicle had a mechanical failure. If the rear driver fairly and reasonably shows or rebuts the presumption of negligence, the jury then determines the issue of the rear driver's negligence and determines the damages.


Don't let facts get in the way.
 
2014-03-28 04:09:32 PM  
moike:

Obviously didn't read my earlier posts...

I don't tailgate.

But I have been cruising along in the right lane and had asshats change lanes into my safe buffer zone shaving my front bumper by inches and then slam on their brakes for no apparent reason at all.

So far years of practice braking vehicles right to the bleeding edge of control have saved my ass.  But the HD dashcam is a good secondary source of unquestionable truth if I do make contact with one of these morons.


I don't tailgate either; it is a dickish and dangerous thing to do.

Good on you, I have been considering getting a dashcam myself.  Detroit-area (read: suburbs) drivers are terrible, and don't give a smelly rat's butt about your car, their car, or the sanctity of life in general, it seems...
 
2014-03-28 04:11:03 PM  
I'm from Fark.
I can drive however I want.
It's always everybody else's fault.
 
2014-03-28 04:12:50 PM  

Ctrl-Alt-Del: Gonz: [Sarcastically] If you're driving in the left lane, it doesn't matter how fast you're going. If the car behind you wants to go faster, that's your problem, and you'd better let them pass you or you're wrong.

Gecko Gingrich: It's not because this is Fark. It's because in many jurisdictions it is the law. *Expressly* the law.

Ctrl-Alt-Del: Meh, I don't know about "many," the Keep Right laws I'm familiar with require you to stay in the righmost lane unless you are passing, or unless you are approaching a left turn - they do NOT require you to move out of the way of an overtaking vehicle,

Gecko Gingrich: Link

From your link: "Six states require drivers to move right if they are blocking traffic in the left lane"

"Six" is not "many" when discussing US states


Oh, good lord.

Firstly, quite deliberately I did not limit myself to US states with my use of "many jurisdictions".

Secondly, I linked to that list of US state laws simply to help you with your ignorance (I do not use that as a pejorative). Said ignorance was demonstrated with your own admission of not being familiar with any laws that "require you to move out of the way of an overtaking vehicle".

Thirdly, I'll admit that the text at the top of the list states that only six states require moving right. Confusingly, it seems to contradict itself with the very next sentence. Either way, the chart (including citations) indicates that there are much more than six.
 
2014-03-28 04:17:36 PM  
The more you drive the less intelligent you are.

criticsroundup.com

/Plate of Shrimp
 
2014-03-28 04:25:43 PM  
That video amuses me greatly.
 
2014-03-28 04:32:58 PM  

SmokinTrees: moike:

Obviously didn't read my earlier posts...

I don't tailgate.

But I have been cruising along in the right lane and had asshats change lanes into my safe buffer zone shaving my front bumper by inches and then slam on their brakes for no apparent reason at all.

So far years of practice braking vehicles right to the bleeding edge of control have saved my ass.  But the HD dashcam is a good secondary source of unquestionable truth if I do make contact with one of these morons.

I don't tailgate either; it is a dickish and dangerous thing to do.

Good on you, I have been considering getting a dashcam myself.  Detroit-area (read: suburbs) drivers are terrible, and don't give a smelly rat's butt about your car, their car, or the sanctity of life in general, it seems...


http://dashboardcamerareviews.com/lukas-lk-7900-ace/

You're welcome.
 
2014-03-28 04:33:32 PM  

tforbes: there are only two types of drivers worse than left lane nazis.

people who break check you (regardless of lane) and people who try to high-beam you after you pass them.


Dont forget about the slow drivers on two lane roads that as soon as you get to a passing zone to legally go around them, they take it as a personal insult and proceed to floor it in an attempt to force you back in behind them. THOSE people need to be run into a ditch asap. Especially if there is a car coming in the opposite direction.
 
2014-03-28 04:36:00 PM  

Falin: OregonVet: Falin: In even littler-boy words- You're wrong.

You are wrong. You are not allowed to speed. The entire law is written to cover circumstances when someone is under the limit. Not to mention in the video she is passing other vehicles while this guy is on her ass. Show me where speeding in the law is permitted and I'll yield. You won't.


Sorry man, you're just flat-out wrong on this one. The laws governing keeping right in this state do not take speed limit into account. Some states do have a law that specifically says that if you're going the speed limit you don't have to get over. Washington isn't one of them.


The best states will also have it set up so you will get a ticket if you are simply left lane cruising.   you can get a ticket.
If you are not actively passing anyone then you move to the right.

What happens is that people will zone out in the left lane and then force someone to hit the brakes and then pass on the right.  That is activity that should not happen.

Self important assholes will say "I'm driving 55, I will not yield.  YOU are not allowed to exceed 55.  I AM THE LAW"

Of course, Mr Pompous has no idea why someone else might be driving 56.  It is not his concern.
 
2014-03-28 04:36:08 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-28 04:37:22 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: Thirdly, I'll admit that the text at the top of the list states that only six states require moving right. Confusingly, it seems to contradict itself with the very next sentence. Either way, the chart (including citations) indicates that there are much more than six.


Good lord, is there something about this topic that makes compromises peoples reading comprehension skills? It does not contradict itself in the next sentence

From your link:
  Most states follow the Uniform Vehicle Code and require drivers to keep right if they are going slower than the normal speed of traffic (regardless of the speed limit; see below). These are listed as "slower", with an asterisk and an explanation under "comments" if vehicles lawfully using the left lane must yield to overtaking traffic.

This is not hard to understand. The ones listed as "slower" require you to move left if you are going slower than "the normal speed of traffic"  How fast the single asshole behind me is going, or wants to go, is not what determines "the normal speed of traffic".  However some jurisdictions DO require you to move out of the way of that single asshole. So how did they indicate those? Let's look at the text again

Most states follow the Uniform Vehicle Code and require drivers to keep right if they are going slower than the normal speed of traffic (regardless of the speed limit; see below). These are listed as "slower", with an asterisk and an explanation under "comments" if vehicles lawfully using the left lane must yield to overtaking traffic.

So the jurisdictions that require you to move out of the way of an overtaking vehicle are those with the word "slower" and an asterisk. And there are six of them. Six. Out of 50 states
  

Gecko Gingrich: Firstly, quite deliberately I did not limit myself to US states with my use of "many jurisdictions".


Seriously?  Then why did you limit yourself to the US with your evidence? Because what you've provided so far not only doesn't support your initial assertion, it contradicts it.

Gecko Gingrich: r ignorance (I do not use that as a pejorative). Said ignorance was demonstrated with your own admission of not being familiar with any laws that "require you to move out of the way of an overtaking vehicle".


No offense taken, it's a good source, thanks.

 
2014-03-28 04:40:08 PM  
As a public service announcement for FARK:

If you are faced with a road-rager giving you the bird, cussing, etc., I have a suggestion:

Do not return the bird, or yell back, or anything obviously defensive. Simply place your free hand to your ear, and pantomime that you cannot hear them. Make sure they understand you are truly interested in hearing what they have to say, yet cannot, and continue with the "I can't hear you, please speak louder" gestures.

So, so much fun. I am fairly sure the last person I had the pleasure of doing this to had a squirting aneurism by the time I was done with the gesticulating.  And then I laughed and laughed, and they went even more berserk.
 
2014-03-28 04:45:17 PM  

SurfaceTension:
 Actually there is reason for it. Because almost every car on the road in the US is left-hand drive, it is much easier and safer to pass on the left by weaving over slightly to see what might be up ahead than the much more dangerous pass on the right, in which you basically have to swing the entire car over before you can see what's ahead.

This is why people driving slower in the left hand lane ARE a safety hazard.


If you can't see far enough beyond the car you're passing without moving over to EITHER side you're too close.  They teach that in the first week of driver's ed.  It's one of the many reasons not to tailgate.

 the money is in the banana stand: This isn't very complicated. The left lane is used for passing AND for faster moving vehicles.


Actually, it's pretty complicated.  About 60% of US States have some kind of LL law, and they're all subtly different.   Of states that have LL laws, most require that motorists stay to the right unless passing, so the left lane isn't "AND for faster moving vehicles."  (At least not everywhere)


The whole mess basically reinforces my original point:  drivers now need to keep track of something like 30 different LL laws, which in effect makes the left lane useless.  You see it everywhere.  Miles and miles of highway with nobody in the left lane and a long string of cars and trucks riding on a pothole-strewn crumbling right hand lane.  It's even affected highway construction- rightmost lanes have deeper footings and thicker concrete to compensate for the increased traffic, making the per-mile cost that much higher.  I have no idea how many billions of taxpayer dollars are wasted on something that is completely unnecessary.
 
2014-03-28 04:49:32 PM  
I don't hang out in the left lane.

But I don't believe there's any state law that says a driver has to move over as quickly as possible for any random, tailgating asshole who believes you're not driving fast enough. On any roadway.

The only circumstance in which I believe it is mandatory for drivers to move over to the right ASAP for a vehicle is for emergency vehicles: ambulance, firetruck, cops with lights and sirens going. I'm not aware of any law that says, "If you're going the speed limit on a roadway in the left lane and some douchebag comes up behind you and immediately starts losing his shiat because you're slowing him down, you must move over so as to avoid inconveniencing him/her any further, because the left lane is for passing only, motherfarker, regardless of the traffic conditions."
 
2014-03-28 04:50:05 PM  

for good or for awesome: Roads with intersections every few hundred yards don't have fast lanes.  I'm not going to weave in and out of traffic to make my turn just so you can drive a couple miles and hour faster than me.  Even if you are a big tough guy in a truck.


yeah not every road is an expressway. a 4 lane hwy with intersections doesn't have a "fast lane" and there's no law about slow traffic having to stay in the right lane.
she was going the speed limit.
he sped ,he passed on the right,tried to quickly swerve in front of her (and was probably going to hit the brakes and try to make her hit him in the ass) but lost control and crashed.

the only thing she did wrong was record this while driving.
 
2014-03-28 04:58:05 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Loreweaver: Fade2black: Because taking video while you're illegally in the left lane absolves her of all blame (if you're not passing you're impeding). fark this biatch.


sammyk: OregonVet: sammyk: Meh, left lane nazis' make my blood boil

I don't think 55+ in a 50 zone is hogging the left lane if you have a turn coming up.

I don't either. But please don't pretend that there is not an abundance of self important douche bags that think it's their civic duty to block traffic and set the speed for everyone else.


And this. Lots of passive aggressive narcissistic assholes out there that feel it's their duty to slow down anyone that is going faster then they are. As the video proves, this creates just as much road rage as the speeding dickhead.

/Aggressive driver, but moves to the right for faster cars.

Do I really need to point out yet again that this incident was not on a highway, but on a multi-lane city street? You know, streets that do NOT have a passing lane! There is no such thing as a "lane hog" when they are driving the speed limit on a city street.

It was on a highway, dumbass


Highways don't have intersections, FYI. Watch the video again...
 
2014-03-28 05:00:48 PM  

tillerman35: The whole mess basically reinforces my original point: drivers now need to keep track of something like 30 different LL laws, which in effect makes the left lane useless.


Or you just follow common courtesy and if someone wants past you.  Let them go by.

Just because the law lets you do something doesn't mean you're not a dick when you do it.
 
2014-03-28 05:02:04 PM  
There are only two relevant "laws," for anyone who may have missed them:

1) Stay away from other cars
2) Don't be a dick

Obedience to the actual traffic laws is important only insofar as it keeps your insurance rates low and your license intact.  The two above are the ones that actually keep you alive.
 
2014-03-28 05:02:58 PM  

BEER_ME_in_CT: tforbes: there are only two types of drivers worse than left lane nazis.

people who break check you (regardless of lane) and people who try to high-beam you after you pass them.

Dont forget about the slow drivers on two lane roads that as soon as you get to a passing zone to legally go around them, they take it as a personal insult and proceed to floor it in an attempt to force you back in behind them. THOSE people need to be run into a ditch asap. Especially if there is a car coming in the opposite direction.


They go along with the guy behind me who has been up my ass the whole windy no passing zone (I am in the middle of a long line of cars stuck behind a slow moving thing- farm country, there are lots of slow moving things about and most of them stink) who, as soon as a passing zone is in sight, whips out and passes the long line of cars, not giving anyone in front of him a chance to pass first. F*ck that guy.
 
2014-03-28 05:03:19 PM  
Anyone notice the same people do this on the huge escalator at the airport?
 "Fark people trying to make their flight, there's no law saying I have to move to the right! They should have left earlier!"
 
2014-03-28 05:04:01 PM  

Ctrl-Alt-Del: Seriously? Then why did you limit yourself to the US with your evidence? Because what you've provided so far not only doesn't support your initial assertion, it contradicts it.


My use of "many jurisdictions" was part of a response to the following statement: If you're driving in the left lane, it doesn't matter how fast you're going. If the car behind you wants to go faster, that's your problem, and you'd better let them pass you or you're wrong. "Many" is somewhat non-specific. I did not use "most" or "a large portion", I used "many" and I stand by that. Just because you and I differ on what constitutes "many" (and you insist that only US states be counted - Fark is a multinational website, after all), does not mean my statement was incorrect.

My link to the US laws was in response to your unfamiliarity with laws that require one to move out of the way of an overtaking vehicle.

Why you insist on conflating those two - very distinct - responses is beyond me.

I do want to thank you with helping me understand the confusing wording of that link. You, of course, are correct. Six states require a driver to get out of the way of an overtaking vehicle regardless of either car's speed, the speed of the flow of traffic, or the posted speed limit. It states simply, when the speed of the overtaking car is greater than the speed of the car being overtaken, the car being overtaken must yield.

My confusion came from my own prejudice. Too many left lane blockers think they they are immune to "slower traffic keep right laws" because they are either traveling at or below the posted speed limit, or because they are speeding but still going slower than the flow of traffic. In *most* US jurisdictions, that is not true.
 
2014-03-28 05:06:02 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: But I don't believe there's any state law that says a driver has to move over as quickly as possible for any random, tailgating asshole who believes you're not driving fast enough. On any roadway.

The only circumstance in which I believe it is mandatory for drivers to move over to the right ASAP for a vehicle is for emergency vehicles: ambulance, firetruck, cops with lights and sirens going. I'm not aware of any law that says, "If you're going the speed limit on a roadway in the left lane and some douchebag comes up behind you and immediately starts losing his shiat because you're slowing him down, you must move over so as to avoid inconveniencing him/her any further, because the left lane is for passing only, motherfarker, regardless of the traffic conditions."


Funny thing about beliefs, they're often not based on facts.
 
2014-03-28 05:07:58 PM  

Nutsac_Jim: Loreweaver: Except the "slower traffic keep right" and passing rules you refer to only apply to highways

Perhaps you could enlighten us to the code that says this.


Here you go:

THE VEHICLE CODE (TITLE 75)
PART III. OPERATION OF VEHICLES
CHAPTER 33. RULES OF THE ROAD IN GENERAL
Subchapter A - General Provisions.
§ 3313. Restrictions on use of limited access highways.

(d) Driving in right lane.--
1. Except as provided in paragraph (2) and unless otherwise posted, upon all limited access highways having two or more lanes for traffic moving in the same direction, all vehicles shall be driven in the right-hand lanes when available for traffic except when any of the following conditions exist:
i. When overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction,
ii. When traveling at a speed greater than the traffic flow.
iii. When moving left to allow traffic to merge.
iv. When preparing for a left turn at an intersection, exit or into a private road or driveway when such left turn is legally permitted.


The bold part is important. The law only applies to limited access highways, which are defined as having a divided center, with grade-seperated interchanges. Any 1-mile section of roadway with at-grade intersections and/or at-grade access to adjacent private property, is not defined as a limited-access highway.
 
2014-03-28 05:10:14 PM  

SmokinTrees: /Prove I brake-checked you after YOU slam into ME.  It's a tough sell to a cop...


If someone slams into you, you may well end up in pain and physically disabled for the rest of your life. Why in the holy hell would a sane person EVER court that possibility? Brake-checking is crazy. Disclaimer: I used to do it "when necessary" before I grew up and realized how stupid I was being. These days I would just move over and carry on with my life.
 
2014-03-28 05:13:49 PM  

Loreweaver: The bold part is important. The law only applies to limited access highways, which are defined as having a divided center, with grade-seperated interchanges. Any 1-mile section of roadway with at-grade intersections and/or at-grade access to adjacent private property, is not defined as a limited-access highway.


I'm not saying you're wrong, but how does that jibe with sec iv?
 
2014-03-28 05:16:43 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: Smelly Pirate Hooker: But I don't believe there's any state law that says a driver has to move over as quickly as possible for any random, tailgating asshole who believes you're not driving fast enough. On any roadway.

The only circumstance in which I believe it is mandatory for drivers to move over to the right ASAP for a vehicle is for emergency vehicles: ambulance, firetruck, cops with lights and sirens going. I'm not aware of any law that says, "If you're going the speed limit on a roadway in the left lane and some douchebag comes up behind you and immediately starts losing his shiat because you're slowing him down, you must move over so as to avoid inconveniencing him/her any further, because the left lane is for passing only, motherfarker, regardless of the traffic conditions."

Funny thing about beliefs, they're often not based on facts.


Yes, you're right. Tailgating someone for a mile or so and then cutting in front of them in such an abrupt manner that you go into the median is definitely what the law requires. Much better than driving in the left lane for one moment longer than some guy in a truck feels is necessary. That fat biatch is definitely 100% at fault here. Not the guy in the truck.
 
2014-03-28 05:20:23 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: Gecko Gingrich: Smelly Pirate Hooker: But I don't believe there's any state law that says a driver has to move over as quickly as possible for any random, tailgating asshole who believes you're not driving fast enough. On any roadway.

The only circumstance in which I believe it is mandatory for drivers to move over to the right ASAP for a vehicle is for emergency vehicles: ambulance, firetruck, cops with lights and sirens going. I'm not aware of any law that says, "If you're going the speed limit on a roadway in the left lane and some douchebag comes up behind you and immediately starts losing his shiat because you're slowing him down, you must move over so as to avoid inconveniencing him/her any further, because the left lane is for passing only, motherfarker, regardless of the traffic conditions."

Funny thing about beliefs, they're often not based on facts.

Yes, you're right. Tailgating someone for a mile or so and then cutting in front of them in such an abrupt manner that you go into the median is definitely what the law requires. Much better than driving in the left lane for one moment longer than some guy in a truck feels is necessary. That fat biatch is definitely 100% at fault here. Not the guy in the truck.


I never said anyone was 100% at fault. Both parties share fault. The guy in the truck the majority of it, but certainly not anywhere near all of it. That said, there are six US states that mandate exactly what you claim none do, namely that you must yield the right of way regardless of your speed, the posted speed limit, and/or the speed of the flow of traffic.
 
2014-03-28 05:21:43 PM  

Nutsac_Jim: Loreweaver: Except the "slower traffic keep right" and passing rules you refer to only apply to highways

Perhaps you could enlighten us to the code that says this.


Also, some highways change status along their length. For example, Rt 30 in York, PA is a limited-access highway from Mt Zion Rd, extending east to a point just past Rt 222. Along that stretch of road, all interchanges use bridges and ramps.

However, from Mt Zion Rd west to Carlisle Rd, Rt 30 is a regular multi-lane road, with lighted intersections, access to adjacent businesses, and a 40 MPH speed limit. along this sections of road, the "Keep Right" law does not apply. In addition, if you've ever encountered the high traffic volume along that stretch, you'd know that is would be impractical to "keep right" if you need to make a left turn anywhere along that stretch of road.  There is no way you are going to be able to merge across 3 lanes of crowded traffic to make your turn, unless you get into the correct lane before reaching that section of road.
 
Bf+
2014-03-28 05:24:26 PM