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2014-03-27 07:56:32 PM  
What's a Chater School?
 
2014-03-27 08:12:26 PM  

fusillade762: What's a Chater School?


A place where they engage in imporper detention.
 
2014-03-27 08:13:19 PM  

Cagey B: fusillade762: What's a Chater School?

A place where they engage in imporper detention.


Baston?
 
2014-03-27 08:18:47 PM  
"Suit against Chinese Immersion Chater School alleges imporper detention"

Ha! I see what they did there.
 
2014-03-27 08:18:57 PM  
Cripes, how many people did he have to kill to get out?
 
2014-03-27 08:21:59 PM  
Snark aside, it's extremely harmful to those suffering PTSD to only assume that they come from assault victims or military vets.  There are more means of succumbing to it than what the media has fed you.
 
2014-03-27 08:22:01 PM  
spelling............the first thing to go when the world is ending.
 
2014-03-27 08:22:26 PM  
img2.wikia.nocookie.net

/Wouldn't I be OUTSTANDING in that capacity?
 
2014-03-27 08:24:11 PM  
Well then PTSD it is then.  And according to the parents, everyone who ever lived pretty much suffers(ed) from it at one point or another.  Let the suing begin.

i242.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-27 08:25:14 PM  
NOT TWO B! TWO A!
WHY YOU PROGRAM IN C++? SHOULD PROGRAM IN A++!
 
2014-03-27 08:26:35 PM  
If this is a Chinese family, then this boy is the first born son.

All superfluous children would have been told, "Tough shiat. Next time don't embarrass the family by being such a little asshole."

Roy and Upright. Doesn't sound very Chinese.
 
2014-03-27 08:27:44 PM  
I can sue for being given detention? I'm going to be rich. More money than God. Someone find me a lawyer.
 
2014-03-27 08:29:45 PM  

ncsu_wolfpack: "Suit against Chinese Immersion Chater School alleges imporper detention"

Ha! I see what they did there.


Read it with a Boston accent: "Cha-tah skwoo is wehked retahded"
 
2014-03-27 08:30:42 PM  
It never used to be an immersion school.  Just a constant dripping.
 
2014-03-27 08:32:23 PM  
Too much butt-hurt in that family.
 
2014-03-27 08:35:01 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: Snark aside, it's extremely harmful to those suffering PTSD to only assume that they come from assault victims or military vets.  There are more means of succumbing to it than what the media has fed you.


And detention is not one of them.  Calling this PTSD makes it a bullshiat diagnosis again, just when real PTSD diagnoses are being taken seriously.
 
2014-03-27 08:35:39 PM  
Nothing the school did sounds unepreasonable.   He missed recess?  Really?

Oh, your son told you he did t do it therefore he couldn't have, of course.
 
2014-03-27 08:37:35 PM  

CruJones: Nothing the school did sounds unepreasonable.   He missed recess?  Really?

Oh, your son told you he did t do it therefore he couldn't have, of course.


Stupid autocorrect, those words were all spelled cromulently
 
2014-03-27 08:37:52 PM  
I predict lots of adult "detention" when this little snowflake gets to be an adult.

Good jerb mum and dud!
 
2014-03-27 08:38:15 PM  
They tried to turn the kid into a Manchurian Candidate.
 
2014-03-27 08:38:16 PM  
You can sue for whatever you want.  Winning the suit is an entirely different matter.

As for the kid, it does sound as if he might be emotionally underdeveloped.  The crying he exhibited in relation to his punishment might be something I'd expect at or before age 6... maybe 7.  But not at age 9.  Also, emotionally underdeveloped kids tend to act out and misbehave in weird ways.  That might explain him lashing out at other students.  Lastly, the extreme response of the parents screams over-protection.

Next question is if this kid will be blacklisted from private schools.
 
2014-03-27 08:39:13 PM  
"Wang had previously told Roy that the boy intimidated another student in the school rest room and poured water on a third student. "

Sounds like the little shiat can dish it out but can't take it.
 
2014-03-27 08:40:01 PM  
This thread hasa great potentiar.
 
2014-03-27 08:40:09 PM  

Dinjiin: You can sue for whatever you want.  Winning the suit is an entirely different matter.

As for the kid, it does sound as if he might be emotionally underdeveloped.  The crying he exhibited in relation to his punishment might be something I'd expect at or before age 6... maybe 7.  But not at age 9.  Also, emotionally underdeveloped kids tend to act out and misbehave in weird ways.  That might explain him lashing out at other students.  Lastly, the extreme response of the parents screams over-protection.

Next question is if this kid will be blacklisted from private schools.


I'm sure this problem will be handed over to the public schools.
 
2014-03-27 08:40:54 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: DeathByGeekSquad: Snark aside, it's extremely harmful to those suffering PTSD to only assume that they come from assault victims or military vets.  There are more means of succumbing to it than what the media has fed you.

And detention is not one of them.  Calling this PTSD makes it a bullshiat diagnosis again, just when real PTSD diagnoses are being taken seriously.


You never know, maybe they made him pour the water on the student... who was tied up, hung by the ankles, with a burlap sheet wrapped around his head. Simulated Immersion.
 
2014-03-27 08:41:29 PM  
A nine year old boy crying inconsolably?
Sounds like that problem could have been solved with jelly beans and Xbox.

And I guess there are still "authors" who are unaware of spell check.
 
2014-03-27 08:41:36 PM  
"Charlie didn't get detention. Charlie got cold rice and some ratmeat..."
 
2014-03-27 08:46:55 PM  
Detention hall in high school was named after me
 
2014-03-27 08:47:07 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: Snark aside, it's extremely harmful to those suffering PTSD to only assume that they come from assault victims or military vets.  There are more means of succumbing to it than what the media has fed you.


Well, if you can get PSTD from getting detention, I should've been reduced to a quivering mass of jelly, by the time I graduated from high school.
 
2014-03-27 08:47:28 PM  
I was given detention once and I found it extremely indignifying. I went to a run-down public school that advertised how it spent the least per student in the state to appease the conservative electorate of the town. The hallways were overcrowded, the bathroom stalls had no doors, classrooms were literally flooded when it rained, mold everywhere, exposed absestos, not to mention overcrowded. Anyhow, that is to set the scene of how getting from one side of the building to another was difficult with the crowds in the hallways. I had extreme OCD, anxiety, and Tourette's. I was someone who tried to live beyond reproach. I took Spanish, which was on the other side of the school because it was supposed to only be for 8th graders and I was in 7th grade on the other side. I was late to the Spanish class twice, which happened frequently to other students as well for the same reason: that it was impossible to get from one side of the school to the other in two minutes. This meant I was given a detention. I had somewhat uninvolved parents who both worked full time, and so I went to the detention, while my friends' parents had the charges of being late dismissed because of the unreasonableness. I felt humiliated and degraded. I was forced to write in Spanish fifty times that I would not be late again. Even being a star student, this took me an extremely long time due to my OCD and having to touch the letters with my pencil a certain number of times. There was no set amount of time for detention-only however long it took you to write this. The troublemakers in there with me seemed to finish very quickly. I finally finished and handed it to the teacher. She tore it up in front of me and threw it in the trash. I was very nice to that teacher. I was attentive and interested, in spite of the fact that she was not qualified to teach Spanish.

I cannot imagine a person going into education and feeling that part of their job would be to tear students down. What class in pedagogy do you take where they tell you to have students write rote sentences until they develop blisters and then tear up the paper in front of them?

There was a pervasive attitude that students were "bad" when I was in school. I also lived in Sweden and attended school there and that attitude did not exist.

I could very well see how this student has PTSD. I saw students who had in school suspension (which this article makes it sound like he had).  The people who ran it were pervert volunteers who seemed to get off on punishing children. It was an old retired veteran, who had something wrong in his head. I don't know what. He made the most crass, offensive statements. He would march students around the school and then they would go back into a closet that was in the cafeteria where they stayed all day. It was such a sick, unelevating culture. It was always the same students who were in trouble, who thought badly of themselves, and who were being further demeaned and identified as "bad" from such a young age. It makes me sad to know if they had happened to have been born in a different culture, like that of Sweden, this whole self-punishing, negative bullshiat could have been avoided. I saw bullying in schools, and it always came from teachers, as a result of a very sick culture we have about how we regard children.

A student has a right to not be touched by teachers (and this article made it clear that they were touching him), to not be forced into an uncomfortable situation, and not unreasonably be detained. What weirdness have public schools become? The idea of putting a child in a separate room as punishment is so far from ideal yet at the same time is so normalized I don't think we can see how bizarre it is.

When I hear about these things, the way I like to frame them is: A public school should treat people no differently than a public library. And I don't understand why it seems to be conservatives who are the most comfortable with government institutions like schools abusing children.
 
2014-03-27 08:49:40 PM  
Immersion school? Is that where they  are baptised into the Church of Education
 
2014-03-27 08:51:30 PM  

FreakyBunny: I can sue for being given detention? I'm going to be rich. More money than God. Someone find me a lawyer.


Sounds like a Jackie Childs case, "Detention!  This is an outrage!"
 
2014-03-27 08:52:54 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: DeathByGeekSquad: Snark aside, it's extremely harmful to those suffering PTSD to only assume that they come from assault victims or military vets.  There are more means of succumbing to it than what the media has fed you.

And detention is not one of them.  Calling this PTSD makes it a bullshiat diagnosis again, just when real PTSD diagnoses are being taken seriously.


seconded
 
2014-03-27 08:53:52 PM  

swingerofbirches: I was given detention once and I found it extremely indignifying. I went to a run-down public school that advertised how it spent the least per student in the state to appease the conservative electorate of the town. The hallways were overcrowded, the bathroom stalls had no doors, classrooms were literally flooded when it rained, mold everywhere, exposed absestos, not to mention overcrowded. Anyhow, that is to set the scene of how getting from one side of the building to another was difficult with the crowds in the hallways. I had extreme OCD, anxiety, and Tourette's. I was someone who tried to live beyond reproach. I took Spanish, which was on the other side of the school because it was supposed to only be for 8th graders and I was in 7th grade on the other side. I was late to the Spanish class twice, which happened frequently to other students as well for the same reason: that it was impossible to get from one side of the school to the other in two minutes. This meant I was given a detention. I had somewhat uninvolved parents who both worked full time, and so I went to the detention, while my friends' parents had the charges of being late dismissed because of the unreasonableness. I felt humiliated and degraded. I was forced to write in Spanish fifty times that I would not be late again. Even being a star student, this took me an extremely long time due to my OCD and having to touch the letters with my pencil a certain number of times. There was no set amount of time for detention-only however long it took you to write this. The troublemakers in there with me seemed to finish very quickly. I finally finished and handed it to the teacher. She tore it up in front of me and threw it in the trash. I was very nice to that teacher. I was attentive and interested, in spite of the fact that she was not qualified to teach Spanish.

I cannot imagine a person going into education and feeling that part of their job would be to tear students down. What class in pedagogy do you ...


Where did you go to school, Hell High ?
 
2014-03-27 08:56:26 PM  
The last thing I would ever do is go home and tell the old man that I got in trouble at school.  There would have been non sympathy and the punishment would have been much worse.
 
2014-03-27 08:59:40 PM  
Kid got whacked by Wang!  No wonder why he has PTSD.
 
2014-03-27 09:02:23 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: Snark aside, it's extremely harmful to those suffering PTSD to only assume that they come from assault victims or military vets.  There are more means of succumbing to it than what the media has fed you.


i wouldn't wish PTSD on my worst enemy.

The worst type stems from childhood abuse.
 
2014-03-27 09:04:27 PM  

Bigdogdaddy: The last thing I would ever do is go home and tell the old man that I got in trouble at school.  There would have been non sympathy and the punishment would have been much worse.


That was, in fact, our VP*'s Big Threat: "Should we call your parents and ask them how they feel about this little  incident?"

"Um... no....?"

* VP was the discipline guy.
 
2014-03-27 09:08:17 PM  
so its the old "i didn't do it 'cause it was an accident" ploy.
 
2014-03-27 09:11:57 PM  

BluVeinThrobber: Detention hall in high school was named after me


Well I probably would get PTSD if I was sent to BluVeinThrobber Hall every time I acted up.
 
2014-03-27 09:13:21 PM  

mikewadestr: Kid got whacked by Wang!  No wonder why he has PTSD.


jerry Sandusky?
 
2014-03-27 09:13:51 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: DeathByGeekSquad: Snark aside, it's extremely harmful to those suffering PTSD to only assume that they come from assault victims or military vets.  There are more means of succumbing to it than what the media has fed you.

And detention is not one of them.  Calling this PTSD makes it a bullshiat diagnosis again, just when real PTSD diagnoses are being taken seriously.


Even if it did legitimately result in PTSD, an important question is why?  Being touched on the back and being sent to detention should normally not cause such a traumatic reaction in a 9 year old child.  Either the article is downplaying something, or as I wondered about earlier in the thread, maybe the boy has developmental or behavioral issues.

I'd really like to know what a report from a child psychiatrist would say about this kid.
 
2014-03-27 09:15:39 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: BluVeinThrobber: Detention hall in high school was named after me

Well I probably would get PTSD if I was sent to BluVeinThrobber Hall every time I acted up.


Yeah that was it


/good one
 
2014-03-27 09:22:06 PM  

White_Scarf_Syndrome: DeathByGeekSquad: Snark aside, it's extremely harmful to those suffering PTSD to only assume that they come from assault victims or military vets.  There are more means of succumbing to it than what the media has fed you.

i wouldn't wish PTSD on my worst enemy.

The worst type stems from childhood abuse.


Feeling like you're going back in time is the worst cause you're going back to when you couldn't defend yourself and you can't escape the shiat even while asleep. Then there's where you feel like you can't really ever trust people or feeling guilty that you didn't stop things that you had no way of stopping cause you were like 10 when it happened. At least for me the worst is knowing that I'll never really feel safe until my dad dies and even then he'll still show up in my nightmares.
/This kid and his parents are full of shiat and should be ashamed of themselves.
 
2014-03-27 09:24:19 PM  
From what I've learned of charter schools, the benefits are less and the pay is typically less., Please enlighten me what other differences there are.
 
2014-03-27 09:25:10 PM  
I'm calling shenanigans. There's no WAY a 9 year old Chinese kid is only in third grade. Shouldn't he be doing a thesis or something?
 
2014-03-27 09:25:33 PM  
I vote to give the parents DIAF.
 
2014-03-27 09:32:45 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: DeathByGeekSquad: Snark aside, it's extremely harmful to those suffering PTSD to only assume that they come from assault victims or military vets.  There are more means of succumbing to it than what the media has fed you.

And detention is not one of them.  Calling this PTSD makes it a bullshiat diagnosis again, just when real PTSD diagnoses are being taken seriously.


Wasn't implying that detention was, was in response to the first few comments that I couldn't be bothered to quote.
 
2014-03-27 09:32:45 PM  

CruJones: Nothing the school did sounds unepreasonable.   He missed recess?  Really?

Oh, your son told you he did t do it therefore he couldn't have, of course.


Unless he is innocent, as he claims. He actually missed recess, lunch and two parties, had to be escorted to the restroom and write letters of apology to the kids who were the supposed victims. It's all right there in TFA.

If he really didn't do it, that's a lot of bullshiat to dump on a 9-year old who thinks that the grownups are supposed to be 'right' and set the examples he is supposed to follow. Seems like a lot of shenanigans for one kid to get up to all at once unless he's a habitual problem. So yeah, I'd be pissed too. If you believe the school over your kid, then you are a shiatty parent who has no idea how their kid behaves, or you haven't bothered to raise the kid correctly.
 
2014-03-27 09:33:03 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: Snark aside, it's extremely harmful to those suffering PTSD to only assume that they come from assault victims or military vets.  There are more means of succumbing to it than what the media has fed you.


And fewer than being placed in detention for a few hours.
 
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