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2014-03-27 04:32:27 PM  
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2014-03-27 04:47:32 PM  
FTFA:One explanation, cardiologists agree, could be the tendency for endurance athletes to meet their formidable caloric needs with nutritionally barren (or flat-out unhealthy) foods. "I'll burn it off" is the mantra - and, heart doctors say, the excuse - of many an endurance athlete. If you regularly indulge in post-race pizza, or a post-workout milkshake, it might be worth consulting with a cardiologist about the status of your heart.

So it's not the endurance exercise. It's the horrible dietary habits and crash carb loading that occur immediately pre or post endurance workout.
 
2014-03-27 05:18:24 PM  
DONE . IN . ONE
 
2014-03-27 06:14:00 PM  
If i buy a new car, and floor it, driving across the country at 120 mph... you can rest assure many components are going to prematurely burn out.
 
2014-03-27 06:40:56 PM  
Above: Runners indulge in pizza during the 2011 NYC Pizza Run.

I would love to see a Chicago Deep Dish Pizza Run.  A run to Giordano's for a couple gutbuster slices followed by a two-hour nap.
 
2014-03-27 06:45:16 PM  
Bullshiat study is bullshiat. Keep believing that running and exercise will kill you Fatty.  Whatever makes you feel better about your slovenly habits.
 
2014-03-27 06:55:57 PM  
Collapsing and grasping your chest is an obviously bad exercise and bad exercise prevention is something we all support.
 
2014-03-27 07:57:01 PM  
Thank god it was The Wall Street Journal and not something credible.
 
2014-03-27 08:28:54 PM  

hardinparamedic: FTFA:One explanation, cardiologists agree, could be the tendency for endurance athletes to meet their formidable caloric needs with nutritionally barren (or flat-out unhealthy) foods. "I'll burn it off" is the mantra - and, heart doctors say, the excuse - of many an endurance athlete. If you regularly indulge in post-race pizza, or a post-workout milkshake, it might be worth consulting with a cardiologist about the status of your heart.

So it's not the endurance exercise. It's the horrible dietary habits and crash carb loading that occur immediately pre or post endurance workout.


So, my claim that I keep playing rugby so that I can drink and eat whatever the hell I like is perhaps not a good long term plan. Meh, who cares. I am still having fun, still not a fatty. Who wants to live forever?
 
2014-03-27 08:46:26 PM  

The Googles Do Nothing: Bullshiat study is bullshiat. Keep believing that running and exercise will kill you Fatty.  Whatever makes you feel better about your slovenly habits.


gotta go with this one. it never mentions how long "endurance" is or how much of the population this could affect. bullshiat article.
 
2014-03-27 08:53:52 PM  
While I'm sure quality training for the occasional marathon isn't bad for most people, I can believe that excessive exercise (the definition of which varies from person to person) is bad for you. Why wouldn't physical stress be harmful? It's not a choice between endurance running or nothing--there's such a thing as moderation.
 
2014-03-27 09:03:17 PM  

Yankees Team Gynecologist: While I'm sure quality training for the occasional marathon isn't bad for most people, I can believe that excessive exercise (the definition of which varies from person to person) is bad for you. Why wouldn't physical stress be harmful? It's not a choice between endurance running or nothing--there's such a thing as moderation.


Try and explain that to those crazy Ultra Marathon bastards.

/Vaguely planning to do a half-marathon at the end of the year.
 
2014-03-27 09:28:52 PM  

Yankees Team Gynecologist: While I'm sure quality training for the occasional marathon isn't bad for most people, I can believe that excessive exercise (the definition of which varies from person to person) is bad for you. Why wouldn't physical stress be harmful? It's not a choice between endurance running or nothing--there's such a thing as moderation.


Yeah.  There's already rhabdomyolysis (sp?), which is a nasty problem caused by over exertion.  That said, you'd be having to push to really extreme levels of exercise.  This is not an excuse to be out of shape---just a reason to keep your workouts to less than 12 hours a day.
 
2014-03-27 09:35:56 PM  
This needs obvious tag.

Exercise is good.  Chronically stressing your system, flooding it with cortisol, slamming your joints, not so much...
 
2014-03-27 09:47:01 PM  
A high carb low fat diet will do that to you.
 
2014-03-27 09:49:44 PM  
i'm guilty of this when hiking for a week or longer, i tend to hike at least 20+ miles in a day then stuff my face with bad calories... i only do this a couple times a year at least, otherwise i still exercise 3-4 times a week but eat healthy foods at home and get tons of rest, when i do exercise it's not a constant stress level either but a variety

ironically despite destroying trails i dislike treadmills, i never feel like i get anything by constantly peaking
 
2014-03-27 09:54:36 PM  

NakedDrummer: This needs obvious tag.

Exercise is good.  Chronically stressing your system, flooding it with cortisol, slamming your joints, not so much...


i hurt my acl a few years ago... since then, it drives me nuts seeing people run on pavement

even dumber are people who walk up hills then run down... whatever
 
2014-03-27 10:14:40 PM  

Beerguy: DONE . IN . ONE


Hardly. For much of his life Jim Fixx was an overweight, chronic smoker, with a family history of heart disease who ate a crappy diet. His father died of a heart attack in his early 40s and JF was we'll along the same path before he became a running fanatic. Yes he died at age 52, but he probably lived 10 years longer than he would have otherwise. I have no doubt he considered the quality of his life in those years far better than it was in his days as an overweight smoker. And in the end that's what really matters.
 
2014-03-27 10:41:46 PM  
As a former marathoner who had a heart attack after stopping training for marathons, I'm getting a kick...

Keep yourself healthy, train safely and don't think you are superhuman.  Unless you are Dean Karnazes.  Cuz well, he is superhuman.
 
2014-03-27 10:52:45 PM  

NakedDrummer: Exercise is good.  Chronically stressing your system, flooding it with cortisol, slamming your joints, not so much...

Yankees Team Gynecologist: While I'm sure quality training for the occasional marathon isn't bad for most people, I can believe that excessive exercise (the definition of which varies from person to person) is bad for you. Why wouldn't physical stress be harmful? It's not a choice between endurance running or nothing--there's such a thing as moderation.


Joshudan: Keep yourself healthy, train safely and don't think you are superhuman.  Unless you are Dean Karnazes.  Cuz well, he is superhuman.


Yep, all these.

/Would like to run a marathon
//Life gets in the way
 
2014-03-27 11:20:29 PM  

Joshudan: As a former marathoner who had a heart attack after stopping training for marathons, I'm getting a kick...

Keep yourself healthy, train safely and don't think you are superhuman.  Unless you are Dean Karnazes.  Cuz well, he is superhuman.



he's just a media hound.  This guy on the other hand...

http://www.negativesplit.net/indulge/Indulgence_Home.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Krupicka
 
2014-03-27 11:21:59 PM  

T.rex: If i buy a new car, and floor it, driving across the country at 120 mph... you can rest assure many components are going to prematurely burn out.



It's been known for a long time that this applies to athletes, as well. There is such a thing as overdoing it and damaging your heart.
 
2014-03-27 11:23:35 PM  
You also only need to work out for 30 minutes 2 or 3 times a week to get most of the health benefits. There isn't evidence that tripling that triples the benefit.
 
2014-03-28 12:23:19 AM  

LiberalWeenie: You also only need to work out for 30 minutes 2 or 3 times a week to get most of the health benefits. There isn't evidence that tripling that triples the benefit.


I thought the most recent medical recommendation is for 1 hour, 5 times per week because research shows 30 minutes, 2-3 times per week isn't enough.
 
2014-03-28 12:45:43 AM  

bill_01915: LiberalWeenie: You also only need to work out for 30 minutes 2 or 3 times a week to get most of the health benefits. There isn't evidence that tripling that triples the benefit.

I thought the most recent medical recommendation is for 1 hour, 5 times per week because research shows 30 minutes, 2-3 times per week isn't enough.


Because, while infinitely better than sitting on the couch, walking and jogging are barely exercise. Sprint, lift weights, or run long distance.
 
2014-03-28 07:47:17 AM  

Shakin_Haitian: Because, while infinitely better than sitting on the couch, walking and jogging are barely exercise. Sprint, lift weights, or run long distance.


But do you have to keep pushing your personal limit in order for it to be "exercise"? Serious question.

A fatty who gets out of breath walking up three flights should obviously try to make progress (in consultation with their doctor) to get to the point where they can start doing real exercise.  But let's say Usain Bolt retired and just tapered down to a routine where he jogged 5 miles a day, which I'm sure is still way more than most healthy 90-year-olds ever did in their lifetimes. Assuming he was perfectly healthy at retirement, would he actually be jeopardizing his health?
 
2014-03-28 09:43:07 AM  

Yankees Team Gynecologist: Shakin_Haitian: Because, while infinitely better than sitting on the couch, walking and jogging are barely exercise. Sprint, lift weights, or run long distance.

But do you have to keep pushing your personal limit in order for it to be "exercise"? Serious question.

A fatty who gets out of breath walking up three flights should obviously try to make progress (in consultation with their doctor) to get to the point where they can start doing real exercise.  But let's say Usain Bolt retired and just tapered down to a routine where he jogged 5 miles a day, which I'm sure is still way more than most healthy 90-year-olds ever did in their lifetimes. Assuming he was perfectly healthy at retirement, would he actually be jeopardizing his health?


No clue.  I'd imagine that kind of exercise is done to maintain the point they're at.
 
2014-03-28 10:30:49 AM  

BafflerMeal: Joshudan: As a former marathoner who had a heart attack after stopping training for marathons, I'm getting a kick...

Keep yourself healthy, train safely and don't think you are superhuman.  Unless you are Dean Karnazes.  Cuz well, he is superhuman.


he's just a media hound.  This guy on the other hand...

http://www.negativesplit.net/indulge/Indulgence_Home.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Krupicka


that guy rocks as well; in fact there are loads of Ultra runners who are awe-inspiring.  It seems that the pendulum is moving away from fat-shaming and more towards fit-shaming...Good thing fit people are shy, retiring folks who never publicize anything (like getting asked to cover up at a gym).
 
2014-03-28 09:55:49 PM  
you are what you eat............which makes me a pussy.


you dig your grave with your fork......

exercise is great, but  you can't eat fast food all the time and expect good results. regardless of how much you  work out.  common sense.
 
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