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(Newser)   Nearly half of young men say they were coerced into sex; other half want it to be known that they are available for coercion   (newser.com) divider line 81
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2014-03-27 04:32:13 PM  
Mark me in the latter category. ;)
 
2014-03-27 04:41:19 PM  
So, nearly half of young men get caught by the girl's father?
 
2014-03-27 05:38:44 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: So, nearly half of young men get caught by the girl's father?


...that or they get the girl pregnant (or get some STD).
 
2014-03-27 05:39:48 PM  
o/
 
2014-03-27 05:40:14 PM  
Peer reviewed study?
 
2014-03-27 05:41:44 PM  
Oh, you're serious? Let me laugh even harder then!
 
2014-03-27 05:41:53 PM  
In my day, we called that being "gay".  Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course...
 
2014-03-27 05:42:49 PM  
I can see that the people in this thread are already making comments advancing the rape culture we live in.

Nice going on the victim blaming. "If he didn't want to have sex he wouldn't have been male" isn't a good excuse.

/Am I doing this right?
 
2014-03-27 05:43:07 PM  
Well the GF showed up out of the blue on sunday. I was not coerced I was assulted and raped. I feel so dirty now.
 
2014-03-27 05:43:11 PM  
No they don't, not really.

Guys, it's always cheaper to pay a professional.
Always.
 
2014-03-27 05:44:08 PM  
Yeah, but was it coercion coercion, or legitimate coercion?
 
PJ-
2014-03-27 05:44:37 PM  
Pretty sure that 'I was coerced into having sex' is code for 'I was catfished, but I still hit it'.
 
2014-03-27 05:46:25 PM  
My mother used to talk about "how the other half lives". Now I know what she meant.
 
2014-03-27 05:46:56 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: So, nearly half of young men get caught by the girl's father?



Or cornered by amorous fat chicks.



luckygrimdotorg.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-03-27 05:49:48 PM  

Maud Dib: MaudlinMutantMollusk: So, nearly half of young men get caught by the girl's father?


Or cornered by amorous fat chicks.

[luckygrimdotorg.files.wordpress.com image 175x352]


That shame never goes away...
 
2014-03-27 05:52:21 PM  
I wanted her, she wanted me.
Neither one cared.
 
2014-03-27 05:52:33 PM  
Riiiiiiight. I'm sure that the same 43% also report that they never masturbate and that they find the sexiest part of a woman's body to be her brain. They also all have 12-inch penises.
 
2014-03-27 05:52:39 PM  
I've had sex that I later regretted having, sometimes the regret set in before I even rolled off of her, but never in my life have I been coerced into it.

I would love to read the exact wording of the questions they asked in this survey.
 
2014-03-27 05:52:54 PM  

Maud Dib: MaudlinMutantMollusk: So, nearly half of young men get caught by the girl's father?


Or cornered by amorous fat chicks.

[luckygrimdotorg.files.wordpress.com image 175x352]


A steady diet of cocaine pudding would do wonders for her figure.
 
2014-03-27 05:55:01 PM  
high school or college-age men

Well, that explains it.

I remember high school and college.  High school and college age girls are aggressive.
 
2014-03-27 05:56:36 PM  
When you can 'coerce' a guy into sex simply by making eye contact I don't think you should be comparing it to guys coercing women. It just isn't anywhere close to the same thing.
 
2014-03-27 05:57:54 PM  
No, I still demand to be courted the old fashion way.

Slip the roofie into my Old Fashion.


/don't forget the lube next time.
//Call me the next day
///wrap the rascal.
 
2014-03-27 05:58:01 PM  
In other news...

Nearly half of young men don't know what coerced means.
 
2014-03-27 05:58:03 PM  

DerAppie: I can see that the people in this thread are already making comments advancing the rape culture we live in.

Nice going on the victim blaming. "If he didn't want to have sex he wouldn't have been male" isn't a good excuse.

/Am I doing this right?


No, you're doing it stupid.

Generalizing from a blurb of an article suggesting drunk people hook up and might later have regrets to ZOMG U R RAPEY is stupid.

You are ignoring reality, human nature, variations on cultural and social constructs of gender and sexuality while simultaneously undermining violent or vicious sexually predatory behavior.

Congrats. You are part of the problem.
 
2014-03-27 06:01:46 PM  
Huh. I would say that a few times in my younger days I ended up having sex with women who I wasn't particularly interested in. In all cases, one form of manipulation or another was used. Once by a drunk older (well, maybe 30, I was in my early 20s) woman who said she'd drive home if I didn't stay in the bedroom with her. I stayed and we eventually had sex. Once with a woman who managed to corner me at the end of a party and weepily convinced me to stay the night with her. Again, booze was involved. And once by a much older woman (probably in her 50s, couldn't really say). With her, it was part curiosity at least. But it was a familiar script. Alcohol, emotional manipulation, agreement to stay to be a good guy and eventually acquiescence to sexual advances.

I don't feel badly about any of them, though I did feel a bit used during and after each episode. I suppose we all have needs and I can feel ok about serving a purpose for the women involved. It wasn't as if there was nothing in it for me. Some may define that as sexual assault, I don't know. It happened and I moved on, though I suppose I haven't forgotten.
 
2014-03-27 06:01:53 PM  

Serious Post on Serious Thread: DerAppie: I can see that the people in this thread are already making comments advancing the rape culture we live in.

Nice going on the victim blaming. "If he didn't want to have sex he wouldn't have been male" isn't a good excuse.

/Am I doing this right?

No, you're doing it stupid.

Generalizing from a blurb of an article suggesting drunk people hook up and might later have regrets to ZOMG U R RAPEY is stupid.

You are ignoring reality, human nature, variations on cultural and social constructs of gender and sexuality while simultaneously undermining violent or vicious sexually predatory behavior.

Congrats. You are part of the problem.


What?

No gold star for Appie? Congrats, and no gold star?

Talk about being part of the problem.
 
2014-03-27 06:06:30 PM  

PJ-: Pretty sure that 'I was coerced into having sex' is code for 'I was catfished, but I still hit it'.


Well, I have to admit' I hadn't heard of the term 'catfished' before.

If you need me, I'm in the other tab, dusting off my old BBS '19 year-old, bikini model' profile.
 
2014-03-27 06:13:05 PM  
Not a single one of you guys can think of a time when you've been too busy, angry, stressed, distracted or whatever to want sex, but you got talked into it anyway, maybe just to keep her happy? Seriously?
 
2014-03-27 06:13:27 PM  
In other news, nearly 50% of young men were struck by lightning in separate incidents this evening... film at 11!

/you have got to be kidding me... nearly 50% of young males are cherry-picking moments from the incident... the end result was a choice, not coercion... as a former one, I can assure you of that...
 
2014-03-27 06:15:44 PM  
"She manipulated me into an unwanted sexual situation.  It was coercive, to say the least."
"And how does that make you feel?"
"Um......kinda awesome."
 
2014-03-27 06:16:13 PM  
foxyshadis - Not a single one of you guys can think of a time when you've been too busy, angry, stressed, distracted or whatever to want sex, but you got talked into it anyway, maybe just to keep her happy? Seriously?

I consider that part of my matrimonial duty.... not coercion...

/"Sure, babe... whatever you want" = Friday night with the guys
 
2014-03-27 06:19:20 PM  
If by 'coerced' do you mean being invited over to the house of a smoking hot girl that you have a raging boner for, only to find her and her ugly friend waiting for you... you are then treated to the smoking hot one dancing in tight cutoff shorts on top of her coffee table while the fugly one takes off her blouse and starts rubbing your crotch thru your jeans?

And then the smoking hot one leaves you alone with the ugly one?

Yeah.  Mark me down in the first column.
 
2014-03-27 06:22:43 PM  

bughunter: If by 'coerced' do you mean being invited over to the house of a smoking hot girl that you have a raging boner for, only to find her and her ugly friend waiting for you... you are then treated to the smoking hot one dancing in tight cutoff shorts on top of her coffee table while the fugly one takes off her blouse and starts rubbing your crotch thru your jeans?

And then the smoking hot one leaves you alone with the ugly one?

Yeah.  Mark me down in the first column.


you too, huh? must be a thing.
 
2014-03-27 06:28:04 PM  

bughunter: If by 'coerced' do you mean being invited over to the house of a smoking hot girl that you have a raging boner for, only to find her and her ugly friend waiting for you... you are then treated to the smoking hot one dancing in tight cutoff shorts on top of her coffee table while the fugly one takes off her blouse and starts rubbing your crotch thru your jeans?

And then the smoking hot one leaves you alone with the ugly one?

Yeah.  Mark me down in the first column.


Sorry.

But if I dropped my shorts, you'd be upset.

Boners tend to do that to guys.
 
2014-03-27 06:28:38 PM  

foxyshadis: Not a single one of you guys can think of a time when you've been too busy, angry, stressed, distracted or whatever to want sex, but you got talked into it anyway, maybe just to keep her happy? Seriously?


I've got to imagine just about any guy I know could answer that question as a yes, I certainly could. I think it boils down the idea of coercion and what question is being asked.
 
2014-03-27 06:41:47 PM  

some_beer_drinker: bughunter: If by 'coerced' do you mean being invited over to the house of a smoking hot girl that you have a raging boner for, only to find her and her ugly friend waiting for you... you are then treated to the smoking hot one dancing in tight cutoff shorts on top of her coffee table while the fugly one takes off her blouse and starts rubbing your crotch thru your jeans?

And then the smoking hot one leaves you alone with the ugly one?

Yeah.  Mark me down in the first column.

you too, huh? must be a thing.


Coincidentally, AC/DC's 'Givin the Dog a Bone' started playing on the radio as soon as I hit 'Add Comment' on that.
 
2014-03-27 06:47:38 PM  

onyxruby: foxyshadis: Not a single one of you guys can think of a time when you've been too busy, angry, stressed, distracted or whatever to want sex, but you got talked into it anyway, maybe just to keep her happy? Seriously?

I've got to imagine just about any guy I know could answer that question as a yes, I certainly could. I think it boils down the idea of coercion and what question is being asked.


I don't know.  I've recently realized that, given a certain perspective, I was a victim of sexual assault.  Now, i never really thought of what happened as being that, but it probably was in a technical sense.  I'm sure the study had many options.  Just saying, it happens and more often that people want to think.
 
2014-03-27 06:48:24 PM  

foxyshadis: Not a single one of you guys can think of a time when you've been too busy, angry, stressed, distracted or whatever to want sex, but you got talked into it anyway, maybe just to keep her happy? Seriously?


Yes, but that's not coercion. Coercion is defined as: The practice of persuading someone to do something by using force, intimidation or threats in order to produce a desired result.
 
2014-03-27 06:51:41 PM  
That's their story and they are sticking too it.
 
2014-03-27 06:53:26 PM  
Seem not a single man among the posters who's willing to admit that there are plenty of women they don't, wouldn't, and/or would never sleep with. Well fark that. I'll say it. I'm a guy and there are women I won't and wouldn't sleep with, lots of them. And, yes, I'm straight with a healthy sex drive.

I've never been coerced into sex, but I've had it attempted on me multiple times. It's not pleasant especially when you run into an obsessive woman that stalks you and won't leave you alone. Lots of guys like to play these great porno fantasies in their head and act like that's what the reality would be like, but its not like that. It's never like that.

Some day this macho bravado needs to get tossed, not every guy is a horn-dog and the penis is not the brain center for men.
 
2014-03-27 07:02:58 PM  
I know I'm sick and tired of women treating me like I'm a piece of meat.
 
2014-03-27 07:04:09 PM  

ShatteredMinds: Seem not a single man among the posters who's willing to admit that there are plenty of women they don't, wouldn't, and/or would never sleep with. Well fark that. I'll say it. I'm a guy and there are women I won't and wouldn't sleep with, lots of them. And, yes, I'm straight with a healthy sex drive.

I've never been coerced into sex, but I've had it attempted on me multiple times. It's not pleasant especially when you run into an obsessive woman that stalks you and won't leave you alone. Lots of guys like to play these great porno fantasies in their head and act like that's what the reality would be like, but its not like that. It's never like that.

Some day this macho bravado needs to get tossed, not every guy is a horn-dog and the penis is not the brain center for men.


I completely believe that there are men who have been honestly coerced into having sex.  But almost half?  I don't think that sounds accurate.  That, to me, sounds more like "Well, I wasn't necessarily interested but not averse to it either," which is not the same thing.
 
2014-03-27 07:21:02 PM  

Serious Post on Serious Thread: DerAppie: I can see that the people in this thread are already making comments advancing the rape culture we live in.

Nice going on the victim blaming. "If he didn't want to have sex he wouldn't have been male" isn't a good excuse.

/Am I doing this right?

No, you're doing it stupid.

Generalizing from a blurb of an article suggesting drunk people hook up and might later have regrets to ZOMG U R RAPEY is stupid.

You are ignoring reality, human nature, variations on cultural and social constructs of gender and sexuality while simultaneously undermining violent or vicious sexually predatory behavior.

Congrats. You are part of the problem.


Well, at least I get troll points because someone bit. "Am I doing it right" was, in my not very humble opinion, a clear enough hint that I was being facetious. Let alone the ridiculous statement that people shouldn't be born male if they don't always want sex.

/Wait... you aren't counter trolling, are you?
//I've been written of as a MRA and/or ridiculed on Fark for claiming that a drunk hookup isn't rape and that the statistics are bullshiat because nobody applies the definitions in the same way anyway
///Even if they were to agree what the definitions were
 
2014-03-27 07:25:28 PM  

Ryker's Peninsula: Yeah, but was it coercion coercion, or legitimate coercion?

18% said they were physically forced into it; 31% said they were verbally compelled

 
2014-03-27 07:26:01 PM  
"Verbally compelled?"  What they heck does that mean?

And I thought that some of the men who reported coercion would have been coerced by other men, but the article doesn't appear to address that.
 
2014-03-27 07:33:59 PM  

DerAppie: Well, at least I get troll points because someone bit.


If your intention was to troll I'm not really certain you should be given points.  Consider:

Generalizing from a blurb of an article suggesting drunk people hook up and might later have regrets to...

The response was referring back to the article but you clearly said:

I can see that the people in this thread are already making comments advancing the rape culture we live in.

There is a disconnect between the original post and the response.  To be given trolling points, I believe the rule is that someone has to respond to what you have written not to what they think you have written.  If people don't correctly interpret a trolling post, then they are not actually biting at what you have said.
 
2014-03-27 07:44:10 PM  

Maud Dib: MaudlinMutantMollusk: So, nearly half of young men get caught by the girl's father?


Or cornered by amorous fat chicks.


A fat girl is like a moped, its fun to ride you just dont want to let your friends see you doing it.
 
2014-03-27 07:48:01 PM  
Fark really is a toxic feminist hellhole.  These comments are outrageous.
 
2014-03-27 07:50:22 PM  
My ex coerced me into sex a couple of times so that my daughter would be "free" on my weekends of visitation.  Yeah, male rape does happen...
 
2014-03-27 07:52:39 PM  

PJ-: Pretty sure that 'I was coerced into having sex' is code for 'I was catfished, but I still hit it'.


For a second, I read that as "catfisted"... I took it to be a more violent version of "pussywhipped".
 
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