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2014-03-27 02:34:30 PM
The quotes weren't closed at the end! Citations needed!
Pretty good for a football player!!
 
2014-03-27 02:47:43 PM
Newsflash...this has been going on for DECADES.  I remember reading an article in Playboy back in the '80s where a player from a powerhouse program revealed that his "job" on campus was to measure the grass of the practice field--with a ruler--once a day and then inform the groundskeepers when it needed to be mowed.
 
2014-03-27 02:47:55 PM
Man, that Rosa Parks really told off those cops, huh?
 
2014-03-27 03:01:19 PM

PainInTheASP: Newsflash...this has been going on for DECADES.  I remember reading an article in Playboy back in the '80s where a player from a powerhouse program revealed that his "job" on campus was to measure the grass of the practice field--with a ruler--once a day and then inform the groundskeepers when it needed to be mowed.


Joke's on him, it was astroturf.
 
2014-03-27 03:08:46 PM
And it's not even accurate. Parks wasn't sitting in the "white people" part of the bus, she was sitting in the black section and, because the white section was filled was told to move to make room for a white dude.
 
2014-03-27 03:22:47 PM
Take away UNC's academic accreditation.

If football is more important than academic standards, why have a college? Serious students can go elsewhere to spend their money for degrees that mean something.
 
2014-03-27 03:26:57 PM
Did they happen to find any more of Lawrence Taylor's finals?
 
2014-03-27 03:45:22 PM
Permanent death penalty on the UNC athletics program. Make them an example.
 
2014-03-27 03:45:26 PM
That's a final paper that's a paragraph long, is riddled with spelling/grammatical mistakes, and doesn't say anything insightful ... and got a grade higher than pretty much anything I submitted in four years of college.

That explains your writing style.
 
2014-03-27 03:46:24 PM
The most appalling part of that has got to be "on the evening of December."
 
2014-03-27 03:48:06 PM
Well, it's a good thing these guys are going to be classified as 'employees' and not 'students' from now on.
 
2014-03-27 03:50:00 PM
Hahaha wow. Why even bother with this at all, like it was somehow going to take the heat off if they got caught?
 
2014-03-27 03:51:49 PM

MNguy: Well, it's a good thing these guys are going to be classified as 'employees' and not 'students' from now on.


Yup. Time to stop pretending this is anything but professional sports.
 
2014-03-27 03:55:34 PM
That puts my "See my new doll house" term paper to real shame.
 
2014-03-27 03:55:39 PM

AirForceVet: Take away UNC's academic accreditation.

If football is more important than academic standards, why have a college? Serious students can go elsewhere to spend their money for degrees that mean something.


Serious Black: Permanent death penalty on the UNC athletics program. Make them an example.


...wow, and I thought just letting a pedophile run free on campus for a decade engendered disproportionate hate...

/At least I haven't seen "Nuke Chapel Hill from orbit" yet...
 
2014-03-27 03:58:06 PM
I for one am shocked.  Shocked and outraged.  Shocked that they found a college football player that can read and outraged that that racist asshole used black ink on white paper.
 
2014-03-27 04:00:39 PM

RedPhoenix122: That's a final paper that's a paragraph long, is riddled with spelling/grammatical mistakes, and doesn't say anything insightful ... and got a grade higher than pretty much anything I submitted in four years of college.

That explains your writing style.


Yeah.  Clearly this athlete is familiar with the concept of "brevity is the soul of wit".
 
2014-03-27 04:01:17 PM

IlGreven: AirForceVet: Take away UNC's academic accreditation.

If football is more important than academic standards, why have a college? Serious students can go elsewhere to spend their money for degrees that mean something.

Serious Black: Permanent death penalty on the UNC athletics program. Make them an example.

...wow, and I thought just letting a pedophile run free on campus for a decade engendered disproportionate hate...

/At least I haven't seen "Nuke Chapel Hill from orbit" yet...


And remember by NCAA standards, the pedophile on campus/PSU administrator coverup was only slightly worse in terms of scholarships and bowl eligibility than Reggie Bush taking money.
 
2014-03-27 04:03:06 PM
And then Rosa was all "fark you whitey!"
Whitey cops then be all like "oh no she didn't!" and maced the in face her, really good.
"Ha, now Rosa Parks sit where we tell Rosa Parks to sit, and stuffs... "
Then they proceeded to pee on her.
The End.
 
2014-03-27 04:04:52 PM

IlGreven: Serious Black: Permanent death penalty on the UNC athletics program. Make them an example.

...wow, and I thought just letting a pedophile run free on campus for a decade engendered disproportionate hate...

/At least I haven't seen "Nuke Chapel Hill from orbit" yet...


If we were going to nuke any college town from orbit, I think we'd all pick Durham over Chapel Hill.

Seriously though, what do you think would be a legitimate response to the systematic use of obvious sham classes that make a mockery of the NCAA's claim that football, basketball, etc. players are student-athletes?
 
2014-03-27 04:06:08 PM
So my question is, if that's the paper...what's the much more filled-out paper the person is holding behind it? Why is there no grade on it? Why would they keep these things? (I'm assuming that the NCAA requires them to keep these records; otherwise that's just idiotic on the part of UNC).
 
2014-03-27 04:07:06 PM

HotWingConspiracy: Hahaha wow. Why even bother with this at all, like it was somehow going to take the heat off if they got caught?


That's what I find most amusing.  They probably would have been better off giving the athlete an A- for literally nothing---at least that way this piece of incriminating evidence never would have turned up.
 
2014-03-27 04:10:31 PM
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2014-03-27 04:10:33 PM

IlGreven: AirForceVet: Take away UNC's academic accreditation.

If football is more important than academic standards, why have a college? Serious students can go elsewhere to spend their money for degrees that mean something.

Serious Black: Permanent death penalty on the UNC athletics program. Make them an example.

...wow, and I thought just letting a pedophile run free on campus for a decade engendered disproportionate hate...

/At least I haven't seen "Nuke Chapel Hill from orbit" yet...


What do you consider the 'proportionate' level of hate for accessory to child rape?
 
2014-03-27 04:10:35 PM

Serious Black: Seriously though, what do you think would be a legitimate response to the systematic use of obvious sham classes that make a mockery of the NCAA's claim that football, basketball, etc. players are student-athletes?


I think a good one would be a requirement for them to be only able to offer scholarships to those who meet minimum academic standards for regular students, rather than a special set for athletes.

/the problem is that 99% of the time, it's not the athletes' fault they're involved in this sh*t; it's the fault of people who tell them their whole life that they don't need to try in the classroom because they're good athletes
//another problem is that in college, they'll require classes to not interfere with sports for you to keep your scholarship
///which means that you're not going to be able to take a ton of majors, even if you were interested in doing so
 
2014-03-27 04:13:38 PM

Tigger: What do you consider the 'proportionate' level of hate for accessory to child rape?


Probably something a bit less than "murder everyone within a few miles of the child rapist and the few people that might have been in a position to stop him". Because realistically, if that's the standard...well, I'm pretty sure every heavily populated area would have to be nuked.
 
2014-03-27 04:15:51 PM
Single space and indented. Nice.
 
2014-03-27 04:17:54 PM

IAmRight: So my question is, if that's the paper...what's the much more filled-out paper the person is holding behind it? Why is there no grade on it? Why would they keep these things? (I'm assuming that the NCAA requires them to keep these records; otherwise that's just idiotic on the part of UNC).


That is what I was wondering.

And it may just be me, but that paper paragraph read like it was written by two different people. Parts of it read like it was written by a child, then parts of it read like somebody intentionally tried to make it read like it was written by a child, and purposely made mistakes, but used sentence structure that wouldn't be used by somebody turning in that type of work.
 
2014-03-27 04:38:24 PM

HotWingConspiracy: Hahaha wow. Why even bother with this at all, like it was somehow going to take the heat off if they got caught?


Depends on the heat.

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2014-03-27 04:41:25 PM

IAmRight: Serious Black: Seriously though, what do you think would be a legitimate response to the systematic use of obvious sham classes that make a mockery of the NCAA's claim that football, basketball, etc. players are student-athletes?

I think a good one would be a requirement for them to be only able to offer scholarships to those who meet minimum academic standards for regular students, rather than a special set for athletes.


Going forward, that's fine. I have no problem with making college athletes hit the same academic standards as every other student. But what about UNC in particular? Should they be punished in any way for faking these classes?
 
2014-03-27 04:41:52 PM
This wouldn't have happened if North Carolina were in the SEC.

And by that, I mean getting caught and having this be a big deal.
 
2014-03-27 04:42:32 PM

stonicus: And then Rosa was all "fark you whitey!"
Whitey cops then be all like "oh no she didn't!" and maced the in face her, really good.
"Ha, now Rosa Parks sit where we tell Rosa Parks to sit, and stuffs... "
Then they proceeded to pee on her.
The End.


UNC Alumni?
 
2014-03-27 04:45:28 PM

timujin: And it's not even accurate. Parks wasn't sitting in the "white people" part of the bus, she was sitting in the black section and, because the white section was filled was told to move to make room for a white dude.


AND of course he used the wrong form of their/there/they're.  Good GRIEF, Carolina.
 
2014-03-27 04:50:07 PM

timujin: And it's not even accurate. Parks wasn't sitting in the "white people" part of the bus, she was sitting in the black section and, because the white section was filled was told to move to make room for a white dude.


Plus she wasn't some random chick who stood up one day but was deeply involved in civil rights long before the incident.  That's why her case was chosen; others had done the same thing but were not not ideal test cases (like being a pregnant teenager).

That's some of the kind of stuff you'd learn in a real African-American Studies course.  The 'course' isn't underwater basket weaving (which I always thought sounded quite impressive); it makes a joke out of something that's actually very important.
 
2014-03-27 04:50:46 PM

AirForceVet: Take away UNC's academic accreditation.

If football is more important than academic standards, why have a college? Serious students can go elsewhere to spend their money for degrees that mean something.


Hey, at least the Big 10 still values academics. That's why they'll only invite AAU members, and the AAU is super exclusive, only including bastions of higher learning like... UNC.
 
2014-03-27 04:50:47 PM
*ok "stood up" may have been poor phrasing . . .
 
2014-03-27 04:53:40 PM

ongbok: IAmRight: So my question is, if that's the paper...what's the much more filled-out paper the person is holding behind it? Why is there no grade on it? Why would they keep these things? (I'm assuming that the NCAA requires them to keep these records; otherwise that's just idiotic on the part of UNC).

That is what I was wondering.

And it may just be me, but that paper paragraph read like it was written by two different people. Parts of it read like it was written by a child, then parts of it read like somebody intentionally tried to make it read like it was written by a child, and purposely made mistakes, but used sentence structure that wouldn't be used by somebody turning in that type of work.


Also, shouldn't there be a name or a visible redaction?
 
2014-03-27 04:55:15 PM

Serious Black: IAmRight: Serious Black: Seriously though, what do you think would be a legitimate response to the systematic use of obvious sham classes that make a mockery of the NCAA's claim that football, basketball, etc. players are student-athletes?

I think a good one would be a requirement for them to be only able to offer scholarships to those who meet minimum academic standards for regular students, rather than a special set for athletes.

Going forward, that's fine. I have no problem with making college athletes hit the same academic standards as every other student. But what about UNC in particular? Should they be punished in any way for faking these classes?


I'd like it if they could not only vacate wins and reduce future funding, but vacate draft spots as well - Jimmy McZeroIQ passed "Gardening 101" by spelling "grass" correctly (after we spotted him the G and R)? Jimmy McZeroIQ is no longer under contract for any NFL team, and cannot be re-signed until the equivalent classes are made up (at a different institution), and a penalty paid to the academic scholarship fund at the college they ripped off.

Make the player responsible for others screwing them (in addition to the screwers), and we'd hopefully start seeing them take a more active role in their scholarship, rather than passively accept being in daycare.
 
2014-03-27 04:57:34 PM

Super Chronic: ongbok: IAmRight: So my question is, if that's the paper...what's the much more filled-out paper the person is holding behind it? Why is there no grade on it? Why would they keep these things? (I'm assuming that the NCAA requires them to keep these records; otherwise that's just idiotic on the part of UNC).

That is what I was wondering.

And it may just be me, but that paper paragraph read like it was written by two different people. Parts of it read like it was written by a child, then parts of it read like somebody intentionally tried to make it read like it was written by a child, and purposely made mistakes, but used sentence structure that wouldn't be used by somebody turning in that type of work.

Also, shouldn't there be a name or a visible redaction?


It is titled "Rosa Parks: My Story" so one must assume it was written by Rosa Parks. I'm not sure which sport she played at UNC though.
 
2014-03-27 05:00:31 PM
Don't they know that Texas State University got the death penalty for this which forced Sinbad to come out of retirement to play defensive line and Jason Bateman to pretend he's somewhat athletic?
 
2014-03-27 05:00:33 PM
Fortunately for UNC, Mark Emmert and all those who work for him are completely feckless and can be counted on to bungle any investigation.

(Or maybe they're that way on purpose. One can never tell.)
 
2014-03-27 05:04:36 PM

bhcompy: Don't they know that Texas State University got the death penalty for this which forced Sinbad to come out of retirement to play defensive line and Jason Bateman to pretend he's somewhat athletic?


Ok Banks. Ready, Hut! Come on, Banks, you're supposed to be hitting a sled, not humping a butterfly! I want you mean, I want you nasty! I want you to eat raw meat! Get your ass outta here! Alright, Next!
 
2014-03-27 05:04:36 PM

Dr Dreidel: Make the player responsible for others screwing them (in addition to the screwers), and we'd hopefully start seeing them take a more active role in their scholarship, rather than passively accept being in daycare.


Kinda messed up to start that lesson after they're adults. How about if we actually try to instill responsibility at a young age? Not just to athletes, but to everyone? We might not have lawsuit after lawsuit over stuff people shouldn't be trying to do.
 
2014-03-27 05:09:17 PM

Dr Dreidel: I'd like it if they could not only vacate wins and reduce future funding, but vacate draft spots as well - Jimmy McZeroIQ passed "Gardening 101" by spelling "grass" correctly (after we spotted him the G and R)? Jimmy McZeroIQ is no longer under contract for any NFL team, and cannot be re-signed until the equivalent classes are made up (at a different institution), and a penalty paid to the academic scholarship fund at the college they ripped off.

Make the player responsible for others screwing them (in addition to the screwers), and we'd hopefully start seeing them take a more active role in their scholarship, rather than passively accept being in daycare.


or maybe they could make it so they actually have the time to go to real classes and do real work instead of simply being grist for the money mill that is D1 football
 
2014-03-27 05:13:18 PM

IlGreven: AirForceVet: Take away UNC's academic accreditation.

If football is more important than academic standards, why have a college? Serious students can go elsewhere to spend their money for degrees that mean something.

Serious Black: Permanent death penalty on the UNC athletics program. Make them an example.

...wow, and I thought just letting a pedophile run free on campus for a decade engendered disproportionate hate...

/At least I haven't seen "Nuke Chapel Hill from orbit" yet...


Nuke Chapel Hill from orbit.

/go pack
//TA was in
 
2014-03-27 05:18:39 PM

Serious Black: IAmRight: Serious Black: Seriously though, what do you think would be a legitimate response to the systematic use of obvious sham classes that make a mockery of the NCAA's claim that football, basketball, etc. players are student-athletes?

I think a good one would be a requirement for them to be only able to offer scholarships to those who meet minimum academic standards for regular students, rather than a special set for athletes.

Going forward, that's fine. I have no problem with making college athletes hit the same academic standards as every other student. But what about UNC in particular? Should they be punished in any way for faking these classes?


Oh, I'm just suggesting that they actually force UNC to follow the rules. That would punish them quite sufficiently given the amount of cheating and academic disservice going on at other schools.

And let's start making it a violation to so much as suggest that student-athletes can't take certain classes if they'd ever interfere with any team function.
 
2014-03-27 05:18:50 PM

IAmRight: Kinda messed up to start that lesson after they're adults. How about if we actually try to instill responsibility at a young age? Not just to athletes, but to everyone? We might not have lawsuit after lawsuit over stuff people shouldn't be trying to do.


We're talking college here - many (if not most) college freshman are over 18. Besides, my suggestion doesn't obviate the rest of the penalties from colleges/staff, it just adds an incentive for a player to sit up during Naptime 101 and say "Whoa, maybe this isn't what college is about, you know? Maybe I should learn something."

ElwoodCuse: or maybe they could make it so they actually have the time to go to real classes and do real work instead of simply being grist for the money mill that is D1 football


Well, yeah. But so long as athletes play during the week, and in places that require long travel times, best to make sure they can handle collegiate life AND athlete life (and athletic departments have staff just to make sure they can handle the competing demands). If they can't, they lose the latter first, then the former.

But my suggestion was geared more toward players found to have "cheated" after they graduate/get drafted.

// dated an athletic tutor for a while (she tutored Nick Novak, now the Chargers' kicker), and majored in Communication
// I know a bit about "student"-athlete life (obviously, not as much as an athlete)
 
2014-03-27 05:23:46 PM

Serious Black: IlGreven: Serious Black: Permanent death penalty on the UNC athletics program. Make them an example.

...wow, and I thought just letting a pedophile run free on campus for a decade engendered disproportionate hate...

/At least I haven't seen "Nuke Chapel Hill from orbit" yet...

If we were going to nuke any college town from orbit, I think we'd all pick Durham over Chapel Hill.

Seriously though, what do you think would be a legitimate response to the systematic use of obvious sham classes that make a mockery of the NCAA's claim that football, basketball, etc. players are student-athletes?


Why not both? They are next to each other.
 
2014-03-27 05:28:19 PM

SlothB77: Serious Black: IlGreven: Serious Black: Permanent death penalty on the UNC athletics program. Make them an example.

...wow, and I thought just letting a pedophile run free on campus for a decade engendered disproportionate hate...

/At least I haven't seen "Nuke Chapel Hill from orbit" yet...

If we were going to nuke any college town from orbit, I think we'd all pick Durham over Chapel Hill.

Seriously though, what do you think would be a legitimate response to the systematic use of obvious sham classes that make a mockery of the NCAA's claim that football, basketball, etc. players are student-athletes?

Why not both? They are next to each other.


AFAIK, UNC doesn't suck, but Duke clearly sucks as evidenced by the many headlines here disparaging them time and again.
 
2014-03-27 05:41:12 PM

Dr Dreidel: But so long as athletes play during the week, and in places that require long travel times


Could go back to having actual regional conferences where teams would play nearly all of their games...but then fans would whine about not having a TRUE national champion, because that sh*t really MATTERS.
 
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