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(Straits Times)   In a move that no one should have a problem with, Malaysia says there's sealed evidence on MH370 that cannot be made public   (straitstimes.com) divider line 182
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2014-03-27 03:38:43 PM  
One of the pilot's was a major outspoken supporter of the Democratic party opposed to the current government. Maybe this was an operation by the government to remotely program the plane to climb to an altitude that would kill everybody on board, then fly out to a heading where it could crash into a remote area of the ocean so they could blame it on the pilot and discredit the opposition party.

I mean while we are tossing around conspiracies.
 
2014-03-27 03:38:55 PM  

Lydia_C: Although... If I were the head of a large PR firm, I might be thinking how to pitch my services to other Third World governments. "You don't want to look like those Malaysian yokels in front of the media, do you?"


The Malaysian government doesn't really care how it looks.  It's quite authoritarian, regardless of its parlimentary trappings.
 
2014-03-27 03:38:58 PM  
I think I know where BP's PR guys went after the oil spill.
 
2014-03-27 03:39:30 PM  

Stoker: It was an inside job just like 9/11.
They already know exactly what happened and are trying their damnedest to keep the truth from the light.


A second WTC has crashed into the southbound plane
 
2014-03-27 03:39:53 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-03-27 03:40:11 PM  

ongbok: One of the pilot's was a major outspoken supporter of the Democratic party opposed to the current government. Maybe this was an operation by the government to remotely program the plane to climb to an altitude that would kill everybody on board, then fly out to a heading where it could crash into a remote area of the ocean so they could blame it on the pilot and discredit the opposition party.

I mean while we are tossing around conspiracies.


The Russians did it to distract the Chinese while they roll their shock armies up to the Mongolian border.
 
2014-03-27 03:40:50 PM  

Stoker: It was an inside job just like 9/11.
They already know exactly what happened and are trying their damnedest to keep the truth from the light.


If you're serious, hit yourself in the face as hard as you can. If you're just trolling, hit yourself twice.
 
2014-03-27 03:42:44 PM  

LazyMedia: You know, Malaysia, this guy is still alive and presumably available for contract work.

[www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com image 300x225]


Serious question.  Is that guy still alive?
 
2014-03-27 03:43:06 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: So Malaysia has it's own TWA Flight 800? Oops, I mean EgyptAir Flight 990. No, wait, I mean Arrow Air Flight 1285.

Darn it. I guess I'll never know what I mean.


I watched the documentary on Netflix about twa flight 800 last night. Really interesting but made me feel like a conspiracy nut.
 
2014-03-27 03:43:42 PM  
Whatever. This is going to be an awesome Mayday episode.
 
2014-03-27 03:44:11 PM  
If only Boeing had spent $100 on Amazon and taped one of these to the plane:

www.findmespot.com
 
2014-03-27 03:44:13 PM  

Galloping Galoshes: Lydia_C: Although... If I were the head of a large PR firm, I might be thinking how to pitch my services to other Third World governments. "You don't want to look like those Malaysian yokels in front of the media, do you?"

The Malaysian government doesn't really care how it looks.  It's quite authoritarian, regardless of its parlimentary trappings.



Yeah, obviously they don't - I was thinking of other governments.
 
2014-03-27 03:46:04 PM  

clkeagle: Angela Lansbury's Merkin: Isn't this pretty normal with both plane crashes and criminal investigations, of which both are on-going?  I believe most of the details of a normal plane crash in the US aren't released to the public until the investigation is over which can take one or two years, and it is certainly normal in a potential criminal investigation to withhold certain evidence until trail or the investigation is over.  And the Malaysian government has stated many times that they believe their is reason to believe this is a criminal matter.

Yeah, I don't find this to be odd in itself.

But the reactions from the US media are going to reach truly bizarre levels.


I think it's time to revisit the 'tiny black hole' theory
 
2014-03-27 03:46:40 PM  
Ma-lay-si-a!
Ma-lay-si-a-a-a-a!
Now were are here.
Malaysia-a.
 
2014-03-27 03:46:41 PM  

Galloping Galoshes: The Russians did it to distract the Chinese while they roll their shock armies up to the Mongolian border.


Which is just what the Rand Corporation (in conjunction with the saucer people, under the direction of the reverse vampires) would want you to believe!
 
2014-03-27 03:48:13 PM  

Tigger: it's time to revisit the 'tiny black hole'


cdn0.sbnation.com
 
2014-03-27 03:48:22 PM  

LazyMedia: You know, Malaysia, this guy is still alive and presumably available for contract work.

[www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com image 300x225]


Serious answer: Apparently, he's alive but living in obscurity.

FARK Answer: He regenerated:

news.bbcimg.co.uk
 
2014-03-27 03:48:24 PM  
The United States would not act any differently re: the data.

/see 9/11 et al
 
2014-03-27 03:48:29 PM  

RandomRandom: The plane made a number of turns directly to waypoints well after the transponders were disabled, well after reaching an airport at which they could have landed.


If you follow the link at your link, it's basically unsourced rumor:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/14/us-malaysia-airlines-radar -e xclusive-idUSBREA2D0DG20140314

It's all "sources familiar with investigations into the Boeing 777's disappearance." and "Two sources said an unidentified aircraft that investigators believe was Flight MH370 "

You can't debunk anything based upon such weasily wording and unsourced statements.  Hell, the reporter could have just been making shiat up and by couching it in such phrases *IF* someone looks back on it they can just say "hey, my sources were bad" and they won't get fired for lying.
 
2014-03-27 03:50:33 PM  
I'm not saying it was aliens, but it was aliens.

/not really
 
2014-03-27 03:50:35 PM  

raerae1980: TheShavingofOccam123: So Malaysia has it's own TWA Flight 800? Oops, I mean EgyptAir Flight 990. No, wait, I mean Arrow Air Flight 1285.

Darn it. I guess I'll never know what I mean.

I watched the documentary on Netflix about twa flight 800 last night. Really interesting but made me feel like a conspiracy nut.


There's a BBC documentary on YouTube about Flight 990.

I haven't found one on Arrow Air.
 
2014-03-27 03:51:57 PM  
I doubt it's the Malaysians that are holding anything back, they were rather forthcoming on the information in the first few days.

Likely, it's the U.S. that gave them a call and told them to shut up.
 
2014-03-27 03:53:15 PM  
Ok, well, it seems perfectly normal for some information to be withheld during an investigation.  Everyone knows that.

But if this is some crucial piece of evidence that could have led to an end of this investigation sooner, there are two questions to ask:
1.  Why the hell are you telling us now?
2.  Seriously.  Why would you come out and say, "We have more evidence.  But we can't show it to you."?

Reminds me of Sheldon Cooper talking to Leonard.  "I have to tell you something.  But I can't tell you what it is."
 
2014-03-27 03:54:55 PM  
I've missed most of these threads. Serious question though: Why in the hell don't black boxes deploy an airbag at the pressure of a couple atmospheres?
 
2014-03-27 03:55:39 PM  
Next Malaysia will use the 'Chewbacca defense'.
 
2014-03-27 03:55:51 PM  

Angela Lansbury's Merkin: Isn't this pretty normal with both plane crashes and criminal investigations, of which both are on-going?  I believe most of the details of a normal plane crash in the US aren't released to the public until the investigation is over which can take one or two years, and it is certainly normal in a potential criminal investigation to withhold certain evidence until trail or the investigation is over.  And the Malaysian government has stated many times that they believe their is reason to believe this is a criminal matter.


This.

When a plane crashes in america, the NTSB doesn't say a goddamn thing until the investigation is done.

For example, That news chopper crash last week?  Here is what the NTSB has said so far.  "The chopper got fuel, tried to take off, there was a noise, it spun counter clockwise, and fell to the ground."

Dollars to donuts it's a tail rotor failure (it's a textbook example of one), but the NTSB is not willing to say that until it's investigated all the wreckage. It will probably be a year before the NTSB says "yup. Tail rotor failed."  In the mean time, they haven't said, and will not say, anything you haven't heard on the news already.
 
2014-03-27 03:57:44 PM  
Is anyone really sure this isn't Malaysia's reality version of Lost?
 
2014-03-27 03:58:46 PM  
Yeah, If I'm ever killed coming back form anywhere in Asia, please seal my luggage, too. You don't want to know what I'm bringing back. Really.


What can be seen.... and all that.
 
2014-03-27 03:59:25 PM  

fluffy2097: "The chopper got fuel, tried to take off, there was a noise, it spun counter clockwise, and fell to the ground."


Jesus nut?
 
2014-03-27 03:59:50 PM  
I'm not saying it was aliens, but this guy makes me suspish.

cdn2.hubspot.net
 
2014-03-27 04:00:41 PM  
FTFA:

Some family representatives targeted Malaysian envoy Iskandar Sarudin, asking him: "You expect us to accept a report you cannot defend?"

"No comment,'' said Mr Iskandar.


Malaysia and Indonesia share a border.

upload.wikimedia.org

Indonesia and Malaysia are both known for gamelan music.

Iscandar and Gamilon are located in the same star system.

Coincidences?  I THINK NOT!

The truth: MH370 was destroyed by the Comet Empire.  STUDY IT OUT, SHEEPLE!
 
2014-03-27 04:02:30 PM  

LazyMedia: MooseBayou: namatad:
toss in at least two people were traveling under false papers,

Both from Iran, BTW.

Those were asylum-seekers. There's probably never a flight from Asia to Europe that doesn't have some asylum-seeker aboard with false papers.


Yeah, I heard that story, too.  I intentionally left it out, because it was surmised that they were asylum-seekers.  I don't necessarily believe that.
 
2014-03-27 04:04:52 PM  

Galloping Galoshes: ongbok: One of the pilot's was a major outspoken supporter of the Democratic party opposed to the current government. Maybe this was an operation by the government to remotely program the plane to climb to an altitude that would kill everybody on board, then fly out to a heading where it could crash into a remote area of the ocean so they could blame it on the pilot and discredit the opposition party.

I mean while we are tossing around conspiracies.

The Russians did it to distract the Chinese while they roll their shock armies up to the Mongolian border.


Or it could have been an accident. There could have been a small short lived fire that knocked out one of the transponders and damaged the other one enough that it eventually failed. Although this fire was extinguished, it could have also ruptured the canisters that house the chemicals for the chemtrails. Because of the fire the pilot most likely would have set a course to turn around and land at the nearest airport to assess the damage, but he didn't know that the chemtrial containers were ruptured and was overcome by the chemicals before he could fully enter in the new flight plan into the flight computer causing the plane to fly off until it crashed. When they are diluted into the atmosphere those chemitrail chemicals will leave people susceptible to a suggestive state, but they aren't deadly. However in an undiluted form and in an enclosed space those things will cause unconsciousness and death in a matter of minutes.
 
2014-03-27 04:04:57 PM  

durbnpoisn: LazyMedia: You know, Malaysia, this guy is still alive and presumably available for contract work.

[www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com image 300x225]

Serious question.  Is that guy still alive?


As far as I know. His wiki's last update has him living in quiet obscurity in the UAE. The Arab satellite news networks drag him out for an interview every few years.
 
2014-03-27 04:06:10 PM  

Lydia_C: Galloping Galoshes: Lydia_C: Although... If I were the head of a large PR firm, I might be thinking how to pitch my services to other Third World governments. "You don't want to look like those Malaysian yokels in front of the media, do you?"

The Malaysian government doesn't really care how it looks.  It's quite authoritarian, regardless of its parlimentary trappings.


Yeah, obviously they don't - I was thinking of other governments.


Actually, they do to an extent.  Elections are mostly free, although it helps if you can detain the opposition leader so he doesn't get to run (Anwar).  Public opinion has led to the government repealing of some of the nastier remnants of British Colonial law like the internal security act, used to suppress pro-clean election Bersihrallies.  The ruling party is very worried it won't continue to be the ruling party.  It was a shocker for them when they lost their 2/3 majority (back in 2008, I think) which allowed easy changes to the constitution.  The trend toward more openness is not their friend, although revenue from oil continues to be spent to keep most of the states in their pocket.
 
2014-03-27 04:07:17 PM  

MooseBayou: LazyMedia: MooseBayou: namatad:
toss in at least two people were traveling under false papers,

Both from Iran, BTW.

Those were asylum-seekers. There's probably never a flight from Asia to Europe that doesn't have some asylum-seeker aboard with false papers.

Yeah, I heard that story, too.  I intentionally left it out, because it was surmised that they were asylum-seekers.  I don't necessarily believe that.


Why not? Because they're from Iran?
 
2014-03-27 04:07:18 PM  

ongbok: Galloping Galoshes: ongbok: One of the pilot's was a major outspoken supporter of the Democratic party opposed to the current government. Maybe this was an operation by the government to remotely program the plane to climb to an altitude that would kill everybody on board, then fly out to a heading where it could crash into a remote area of the ocean so they could blame it on the pilot and discredit the opposition party.

I mean while we are tossing around conspiracies.

The Russians did it to distract the Chinese while they roll their shock armies up to the Mongolian border.

Or it could have been an accident. There could have been a small short lived fire that knocked out one of the transponders and damaged the other one enough that it eventually failed. Although this fire was extinguished, it could have also ruptured the canisters that house the chemicals for the chemtrails. Because of the fire the pilot most likely would have set a course to turn around and land at the nearest airport to assess the damage, but he didn't know that the chemtrial containers were ruptured and was overcome by the chemicals before he could fully enter in the new flight plan into the flight computer causing the plane to fly off until it crashed. When they are diluted into the atmosphere those chemitrail chemicals will leave people susceptible to a suggestive state, but they aren't deadly. However in an undiluted form and in an enclosed space those things will cause unconsciousness and death in a matter of minutes.


Goddamn you.  I made it to the penultimate sentence before a "WTF am I reading?" alert went off in my head.

I've gotta stop reading the Politics tab.
 
2014-03-27 04:12:07 PM  

ongbok: Galloping Galoshes: ongbok: One of the pilot's was a major outspoken supporter of the Democratic party opposed to the current government. Maybe this was an operation by the government to remotely program the plane to climb to an altitude that would kill everybody on board, then fly out to a heading where it could crash into a remote area of the ocean so they could blame it on the pilot and discredit the opposition party.

I mean while we are tossing around conspiracies.

The Russians did it to distract the Chinese while they roll their shock armies up to the Mongolian border.

Or it could have been an accident. There could have been a small short lived fire that knocked out one of the transponders and damaged the other one enough that it eventually failed. Although this fire was extinguished, it could have also ruptured the canisters that house the chemicals for the chemtrails. Because of the fire the pilot most likely would have set a course to turn around and land at the nearest airport to assess the damage, but he didn't know that the chemtrial containers were ruptured and was overcome by the chemicals before he could fully enter in the new flight plan into the flight computer causing the plane to fly off until it crashed. When they are diluted into the atmosphere those chemitrail chemicals will leave people susceptible to a suggestive state, but they aren't deadly. However in an undiluted form and in an enclosed space those things will cause unconsciousness and death in a matter of minutes.


You have quite the imagination there, ongbok
 
2014-03-27 04:12:08 PM  

MooseBayou: LazyMedia: MooseBayou: namatad:
toss in at least two people were traveling under false papers,

Both from Iran, BTW.

Those were asylum-seekers. There's probably never a flight from Asia to Europe that doesn't have some asylum-seeker aboard with false papers.

Yeah, I heard that story, too.  I intentionally left it out, because it was surmised that they were asylum-seekers.  I don't necessarily believe that.


Why not? Name one airplane suicide bombing incident involving Iranians. That's pretty much exclusively an al Qaeda tactic, and Iran is right at the top of al Qaeda's enemies list, particularly since their support of Assad in the Syrian civil war. On the other hand, there are about 24,000 Iranians granted asylum around the world every year. I'm going with the obvious, particularly since these two Iranians were investigated and found not to have terrorist ties and to have legit reasons to travel to Germany.
 
2014-03-27 04:13:19 PM  

ongbok: When they are diluted into the atmosphere those chemitrail chemicals will leave people susceptible to a suggestive state, but they aren't deadly. However in an undiluted form and in an enclosed space those things will cause unconsciousness and death in a matter of minutes.


Not to mention, they burn hot enough to melt steel.
/not obscure
 
2014-03-27 04:15:25 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: raerae1980: TheShavingofOccam123: So Malaysia has it's own TWA Flight 800? Oops, I mean EgyptAir Flight 990. No, wait, I mean Arrow Air Flight 1285.

Darn it. I guess I'll never know what I mean.

I watched the documentary on Netflix about twa flight 800 last night. Really interesting but made me feel like a conspiracy nut.

There's a BBC documentary on YouTube about Flight 990.

I haven't found one on Arrow Air.


Thanks, watching it now, but I think I've already seen it, lolol, I watched so many of these. I love Mayday. Can't wait for them to make an episode about this flight.
 
2014-03-27 04:19:09 PM  
This sounds like a bribe solicitation more than anything.

And after seeing the quality of the evidence they *did* make public, I'd be surprised if anyone (other than cable news) shows interest.
 
2014-03-27 04:20:29 PM  

raerae1980: TheShavingofOccam123: So Malaysia has it's own TWA Flight 800? Oops, I mean EgyptAir Flight 990. No, wait, I mean Arrow Air Flight 1285.

Darn it. I guess I'll never know what I mean.

I watched the documentary on Netflix about twa flight 800 last night. Really interesting but made me feel like a conspiracy nut.


I don't care if it makes me seem like a nut, I think the official story about TWA 800 is bullsh*t.
 
2014-03-27 04:21:08 PM  

LazyMedia: MooseBayou: LazyMedia: MooseBayou: namatad:
toss in at least two people were traveling under false papers,

Both from Iran, BTW.

Those were asylum-seekers. There's probably never a flight from Asia to Europe that doesn't have some asylum-seeker aboard with false papers.

Yeah, I heard that story, too.  I intentionally left it out, because it was surmised that they were asylum-seekers.  I don't necessarily believe that.

Why not? Name one airplane suicide bombing incident involving Iranians. That's pretty much exclusively an al Qaeda tactic, and Iran is right at the top of al Qaeda's enemies list, particularly since their support of Assad in the Syrian civil war. On the other hand, there are about 24,000 Iranians granted asylum around the world every year. I'm going with the obvious, particularly since these two Iranians were investigated and found not to have terrorist ties and to have legit reasons to travel to Germany.


But dude.

They're Iranian!

That means...stuff. And things.

/if the two with stolen passports were Americans or from a Christian nation at least, no one would care about them
 
2014-03-27 04:21:12 PM  

durbnpoisn: LazyMedia: You know, Malaysia, this guy is still alive and presumably available for contract work.

[www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com image 300x225]

Serious question.  Is that guy still alive?


Sure is. Living in the UAE with his family. Apparently the US captured him but released him because there was no real point in keeping him when he didn't really do anything wrong.
 
2014-03-27 04:23:00 PM  

Mr. Chainsaw: raerae1980: TheShavingofOccam123: So Malaysia has it's own TWA Flight 800? Oops, I mean EgyptAir Flight 990. No, wait, I mean Arrow Air Flight 1285.

Darn it. I guess I'll never know what I mean.

I watched the documentary on Netflix about twa flight 800 last night. Really interesting but made me feel like a conspiracy nut.

I don't care if it makes me seem like a nut, I think the official story about TWA 800 is bullsh*t.


Well, yea, especially after watching it, I do too.
 
2014-03-27 04:23:14 PM  
You can't handle the truth!
 
2014-03-27 04:26:43 PM  
Considering how crazy this story keeps getting I'm going to just work under the assumption it was aliens until someone can find the plane.
 
2014-03-27 04:27:35 PM  

Shazam999: Zoolander should've killed the President Prime Minister of Malaysia.


www.transport01.com

OBEY MY DOG!
 
2014-03-27 04:28:18 PM  
Has any terrorist group even tried to take credit for it yet?
 
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