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2014-03-27 02:31:52 PM  

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2014-03-27 04:07:03 PM  
I feel bad for the author. She was brainwashed from a young age to believe in a god that is fickle, petty, and sadistic. At least Christians have Jesus to round off a lot of those sharp corners. Islam just went whole hog on the Old Testament and it shows in its inability to come to grips with modern western culture.
 
2014-03-27 04:12:25 PM  

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2014-03-27 04:14:34 PM  

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Wrong thread...?


Carlton is never in the wrong thread.
 
2014-03-27 04:15:34 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I feel bad for the author. She was brainwashed from a young age to believe in a god that is fickle, petty, and sadistic. At least Christians have Jesus to round off a lot of those sharp corners. Islam just went whole hog on the Old Testament and it shows in its inability to come to grips with modern western culture.


Not sure what you are talking about. What brainwash?

I do think her family went wrong on something, and that being trying to hide. My thought is that, in situations like these Americans acts way better if they are faced with, "Yes, I'm a Muslim, so what?", than I am a Muslim and I need to hide it. Yes, she would get bullied a few times in school, but wouldn't have to grow up with mental trauma.
 
2014-03-27 04:29:04 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I feel bad for the author. She was brainwashed from a young age to believe in a god that is fickle, petty, and sadistic. At least Christians have Jesus to round off a lot of those sharp corners. Islam just went whole hog on the Old Testament and it shows in its inability to come to grips with modern western culture.


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/Muslim farker
 
2014-03-27 04:39:12 PM  
Muslim, Mormon, Methodist, Baptist... it's probably best to keep it to yourself.

You don't hear about many Jews running around trying to convert people in Africa.

Still, kind of a bummer for the author.
 
2014-03-27 04:45:06 PM  

Epic Fap Session: Muslim, Mormon, Methodist, Baptist... it's probably best to keep it to yourself.

You don't hear about many Jews running around trying to convert people in Africa.

Still, kind of a bummer for the author.


She wasn't trying to "convert" anybody, and neither are Muslims.

Do you have a different internet than I do, or something?
 
2014-03-27 04:45:58 PM  

Epic Fap Session: Muslim, Mormon, Methodist, Baptist... it's probably best to keep it to yourself.

You don't hear about many Jews running around trying to convert people in Africa.

Still, kind of a bummer for the author.


But you're only discriminated against if you're a small enough minority.
 
2014-03-27 04:47:45 PM  

Mikey1969: Epic Fap Session: Muslim, Mormon, Methodist, Baptist... it's probably best to keep it to yourself.

You don't hear about many Jews running around trying to convert people in Africa.

Still, kind of a bummer for the author.

She wasn't trying to "convert" anybody, and neither are Muslims.

Do you have a different internet than I do, or something?


Yeah, hence my third sentence.

And you don't believe Muslims are trying to convert anyone? Well, maybe they're not riding 10-speeds through your neighborhood, but a billion of them didn't just happen.
 
2014-03-27 04:50:31 PM  

Mikey1969: and neither are Muslims.


Evangelism, like in Christianity, is a written doctrine of Islam.  It's not like one of the pillars of Islam or anything, but some Muslims do seek converts.  Which is okay.  I'm not trying to judge it, especially much, but it does happen.
 
2014-03-27 04:51:23 PM  
I was a freshman in college when I first came close to being discovered. My friends and I were about to order late-night pizza.
"Hey Sarah, you want a slice of pepperoni?" said my friend.
"Nah, I'm good. Thanks, though," I said.
"Wait, you don't eat pork?" he asked.
I tried to cover my tracks. "Nah, I just don't like it."
"Wait, are you a Muslim?"


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2014-03-27 04:52:35 PM  
I do not believe the line about a school teacher saying Muslims are evil for a goddamned minute.
 
2014-03-27 04:53:26 PM  

Cletus C.: I was a freshman in college when I first came close to being discovered. My friends and I were about to order late-night pizza.
"Hey Sarah, you want a slice of pepperoni?" said my friend.
"Nah, I'm good. Thanks, though," I said.
"Wait, you don't eat pork?" he asked.
I tried to cover my tracks. "Nah, I just don't like it."
"Wait, are you a Muslim?"

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Your skin color doesn't just vanish.  She looked sorta middle eastern(which is synonymous with Muslim to bigots), so yeah, dummy, totally legit.
 
2014-03-27 04:55:00 PM  
I tend to appreciate Muslims a whole lot more than Christians because they are not assholes about it.

They are both horrifically ignorant, just like every religion and it's followers, but at least they don't go around forcing you to appease their stupidity.

I've witnessed here pain though.

/Big beard here. Everyone asks if I'm Jewish.
// "No." *hushed tones* "Are you...(with a hint of disgust) Muslim?!"
 
2014-03-27 04:55:36 PM  

loki see loki do: I do not believe the line about a school teacher saying Muslims are evil for a goddamned minute.


Because you're one of those idiots who think good ol' racism is over.  There's relatively few explanations for this.  One is that you're so sheltered you've never been exposed to racists of any kind.  Two is that you're a racist yourself, and looking to justify your own levels of discrimination in your head.  Three is you're a moron.  I hope it's #1.
 
2014-03-27 04:57:00 PM  

ikanreed: Cletus C.: I was a freshman in college when I first came close to being discovered. My friends and I were about to order late-night pizza.
"Hey Sarah, you want a slice of pepperoni?" said my friend.
"Nah, I'm good. Thanks, though," I said.
"Wait, you don't eat pork?" he asked.
I tried to cover my tracks. "Nah, I just don't like it."
"Wait, are you a Muslim?"

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Your skin color doesn't just vanish.  She looked sorta middle eastern(which is synonymous with Muslim to bigots), so yeah, dummy, totally legit.


They were about to order pizza. Out of the blue, some guy says "Hey Sarah, you want a slice of peperoni?"

Was he going to order her a slice of pizza?
 
2014-03-27 04:57:11 PM  

Epic Fap Session: Mikey1969: Epic Fap Session: Muslim, Mormon, Methodist, Baptist... it's probably best to keep it to yourself.

You don't hear about many Jews running around trying to convert people in Africa.

Still, kind of a bummer for the author.

She wasn't trying to "convert" anybody, and neither are Muslims.

Do you have a different internet than I do, or something?

Yeah, hence my third sentence.

And you don't believe Muslims are trying to convert anyone? Well, maybe they're not riding 10-speeds through your neighborhood, but a billion of them didn't just happen.


Not the way you are implying. As for the 'billion', you DO realize that the religion has been around for a week or two, right?

ikanreed: Mikey1969: and neither are Muslims.

Evangelism, like in Christianity, is a written doctrine of Islam.  It's not like one of the pillars of Islam or anything, but some Muslims do seek converts.  Which is okay.  I'm not trying to judge it, especially much, but it does happen.


"Some" is different than what the OP was implying.
 
2014-03-27 04:57:33 PM  

PapaChester: I tend to appreciate Muslims a whole lot more than Christians because they are not assholes about it.

They are both horrifically ignorant, just like every religion and it's followers, but at least they don't go around forcing you to appease their stupidity.

I've witnessed here pain though.

/Big beard here. Everyone asks if I'm Jewish.
// "No." *hushed tones* "Are you...(with a hint of disgust) Muslim?!"


Being a religious minority gives you some appreciation for diversity.  Being in the majority just lets you keep on trucking with terrible ideas most people around you are happy to affirm, no matter how dumb.

Muslims in predominantly Muslim countries are way worse.
 
2014-03-27 04:59:22 PM  

loki see loki do: I do not believe the line about a school teacher saying Muslims are evil for a goddamned minute.


You seem to be old enough to have been an adult by the time 9/11 rolled around. Did you spend all of the Bush years in space? because that would be pretty cool.
 
2014-03-27 04:59:36 PM  

mayIFark: AverageAmericanGuy: I feel bad for the author. She was brainwashed from a young age to believe in a god that is fickle, petty, and sadistic. At least Christians have Jesus to round off a lot of those sharp corners. Islam just went whole hog on the Old Testament and it shows in its inability to come to grips with modern western culture.

Not sure what you are talking about. What brainwash?

I do think her family went wrong on something, and that being trying to hide. My thought is that, in situations like these Americans acts way better if they are faced with, "Yes, I'm a Muslim, so what?", than I am a Muslim and I need to hide it. Yes, she would get bullied a few times in school, but wouldn't have to grow up with mental trauma.


Most of my mental trauma came from being bullied.

/but not about religion
 
2014-03-27 05:00:42 PM  

Mikey1969: As for the 'billion', you DO realize that the religion has been around for a week or two, right?


Global Muslim Population - 1.6 Billion
Global Jewish Population - 13.75 million

Guess which one is older. Guess which one is commanded to "spread the word."
 
2014-03-27 05:00:53 PM  

Cletus C.: They were about to order pizza. Out of the blue, some guy says "Hey Sarah, you want a slice of peperoni?"

Was he going to order her a slice of pizza?


Buying into a slice of a pizza order, is something you have never done?  I am anti-social as hell, and I've been in that situation at least a half-dozen times in my life.

Pepperoni is the "default" for this.

Mikey1969: "Some" is different than what the OP was implying.


But identical to what they actually said.
 
2014-03-27 05:01:48 PM  

ikanreed: loki see loki do: I do not believe the line about a school teacher saying Muslims are evil for a goddamned minute.

Because you're one of those idiots who think good ol' racism is over.  There's relatively few explanations for this.  One is that you're so sheltered you've never been exposed to racists of any kind.  Two is that you're a racist yourself, and looking to justify your own levels of discrimination in your head.  Three is you're a moron.  I hope it's #1.


Could be he he knows a teacher saying such a thing would probably result in them getting fired if it got out. Or, he just has a basic trust that most teachers are not at all that way. Sure, some teacher could and probably has said something like that but it is not accepted teacher behavior.

Listen, many parts of this woman's story seems exaggerated. Sorry. Calling out b.s. on fark is a thing. You don't need to be racist, just a farker.
 
2014-03-27 05:03:44 PM  
Million Tiny Pieces like typing detected in much of that article.
 
2014-03-27 05:05:12 PM  

Cletus C.: ikanreed: loki see loki do: I do not believe the line about a school teacher saying Muslims are evil for a goddamned minute.

Because you're one of those idiots who think good ol' racism is over.  There's relatively few explanations for this.  One is that you're so sheltered you've never been exposed to racists of any kind.  Two is that you're a racist yourself, and looking to justify your own levels of discrimination in your head.  Three is you're a moron.  I hope it's #1.

Could be he he knows a teacher saying such a thing would probably result in them getting fired if it got out. Or, he just has a basic trust that most teachers are not at all that way. Sure, some teacher could and probably has said something like that but it is not accepted teacher behavior.

Listen, many parts of this woman's story seems exaggerated. Sorry. Calling out b.s. on fark is a thing. You don't need to be racist, just a farker.


Have you seriously not been exposed to this?  Yes, absolute bigots get into teaching positions.  No, they don't get fired for it, unless you actually stand up to them.

shiat like that has happened to me too.  You don't want to be the person dragging the school into court over something a teacher said that's bigotted as hell.  You don't want to draw attention to the fact that you're the "heathen" whose "evil".   You want to pass their stupid-ass class and move on.
 
2014-03-27 05:07:44 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I feel bad for the author. She was brainwashed from a young age to believe in a god that is fickle, petty, and sadistic. At least Christians have Jesus to round off a lot of those sharp corners. Islam just went whole hog on the Old Testament and it shows in its inability to come to grips with modern western culture.


Yup, No brainwashing here.
 
2014-03-27 05:08:10 PM  
I'd be surprised if more than half of that story was true. It reeks of the typical Salon bullshiat about white devils and the hallowed brown person
 
2014-03-27 05:10:42 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: I'd be surprised if more than half of that story was true. It reeks of the typical Salon bullshiat about white devils and the hallowed brown person


I know, if people were actually discriminated against, your politics and beliefs might be really terrible, so she has to be lying.  That's an excellent line of reasoning.
 
2014-03-27 05:13:28 PM  
Fast-forward to the summer of 2013 when I had a journalism internship in Washington D.C. I was excited to be working in the same city as the White House, amid the action of the nation's capital. And it was going great, until I realized the journalism industry wasn't exempt from outdated bigotry. We were discussing a potential story about the rise of Mormonism one day, and I was alarmed to hear the typical uneducated jokes from staffers about polygamy and bountiful offspring. I was trying to set the record straight, when someone mentioned Islam.
Another intern looked right at me and said, "Well, I would rather Muslims didn't reproduce."



Was she interning at WND or Town Farking Hall?
 
2014-03-27 05:20:06 PM  
ikanreed:
I know, if people were actually discriminated against, your politics and beliefs might be really terrible, so she has to be lying.  That's an excellent line of reasoning.

Nah. Lines like this paint her as one of the annoying social warriors of the internet:

One day, I sat on a bus stop in front of the Department of Homeland Security in Washington, D.C. A Muslim woman wearing a hijab sat right next to me, and I felt ashamed. This woman was a true rebel, fighting against the injustices of society simply by wearing a headscarf that displays her love for Islam and Allah.

This is the typical bullshiat story that seeks oppression and suffering as a way to earn street cred in that part of the internet. She sees herself as a revolutionary fighting against evil by blogging in her comfortable apartment or home, likely in a white neighborhood if she can afford it.
 
2014-03-27 05:26:11 PM  
I'd be inclined to be more sympathetic if her folks weren't trying to blow up my folks in the Middle East. That said, a disturbing trend in Western terrorism is the amenability of highly educated, socially-accepted Muslims -- like the author -- to engage in terrorist acts. Generally speaking, in Muslim culture it's the economically and culturally disadvantaged who strap on a beltful of TNT and go blow up a checkpoint. The willingness of upper and upper middle class Muslims like Major Hasan or Faisal Shahzad to undertake terror attacks (although you'll note both survived their attempts, so the fanatical desire to die for the cause may not be there) means that no Muslim is above suspicion. Sorry, just the way it is.

I recall after 9/11 reading an interview with a Saudi government minister in which he said something along the lines of "Don't blow the issue out of proportion. Only about 1% of our young men support terrorism." If we had a "one percent" terrorism problem in this country, there would be 1.5 million terrorists or terror supporters wandering around. One percent is a terrible statistic and if it exists in our American Muslim population, we have a pretty serious problem too (that works out to 15,000 Tsarnaevs running round). While I feel great sympathy for this woman's perceived mistreatment because of her religion, ultimately the fault is with Islam in that they are producing the lion's share of international terrorists. The problem could be squelched pretty quickly if the religious authorities in Teheran and Riyadh came out strongly against terrorism. Announcing that any Muslim who engaged in a terrorist attack would burn in hell would effectively put an end to the problem. But of course, the Muslim religious authorities actually do support terrorism as a tool of statecraft. It has proven enormously effective in the religio-cultural war they see going on between the Muslim world and the West, eliciting lopsided, expensive and ineffective responses from Western governments on the one hand and killing random Jews on the other, which is, from their standpoint, an end in itself.

So I say, fark 'em and the camel they came in on.
 
2014-03-27 05:29:50 PM  

PapaChester: I tend to appreciate Muslims a whole lot more than Christians because they are not assholes about it.

They are both horrifically ignorant, just like every religion and it's followers, but at least they don't go around forcing you to appease their stupidity.


Your kidding right?
 
2014-03-27 05:30:37 PM  

clambam: I'd be inclined to be more sympathetic if her folks weren't trying to blow up my folks in the Middle East. That said, a disturbing trend in Western terrorism is the amenability of highly educated, socially-accepted Muslims -- like the author -- to engage in terrorist acts. Generally speaking, in Muslim culture it's the economically and culturally disadvantaged who strap on a beltful of TNT and go blow up a checkpoint. The willingness of upper and upper middle class Muslims like Major Hasan or Faisal Shahzad to undertake terror attacks (although you'll note both survived their attempts, so the fanatical desire to die for the cause may not be there) means that no Muslim is above suspicion. Sorry, just the way it is.

I recall after 9/11 reading an interview with a Saudi government minister in which he said something along the lines of "Don't blow the issue out of proportion. Only about 1% of our young men support terrorism." If we had a "one percent" terrorism problem in this country, there would be 1.5 million terrorists or terror supporters wandering around. One percent is a terrible statistic and if it exists in our American Muslim population, we have a pretty serious problem too (that works out to 15,000 Tsarnaevs running round). While I feel great sympathy for this woman's perceived mistreatment because of her religion, ultimately the fault is with Islam in that they are producing the lion's share of international terrorists. The problem could be squelched pretty quickly if the religious authorities in Teheran and Riyadh came out strongly against terrorism. Announcing that any Muslim who engaged in a terrorist attack would burn in hell would effectively put an end to the problem. But of course, the Muslim religious authorities actually do support terrorism as a tool of statecraft. It has proven enormously effective in the religio-cultural war they see going on between the Muslim world and the West, eliciting lopsided, expensive and ineffective responses from West ...


I think you forgot to preface that with "I'm not racist, but..."
 
2014-03-27 05:33:34 PM  
how can a 12 year old be a secret anything?

Religion should be like booze. Illegal until you're 21.
 
2014-03-27 05:34:49 PM  
i feel bad for her.  she's got a rough row to hoe, thanks to the radical bastards.
 
2014-03-27 05:38:37 PM  

Snapper Carr: AverageAmericanGuy: I feel bad for the author. She was brainwashed from a young age to believe in a god that is fickle, petty, and sadistic. At least Christians have Jesus to round off a lot of those sharp corners. Islam just went whole hog on the Old Testament and it shows in its inability to come to grips with modern western culture.

Yup, No brainwashing here.


It's all brainwashing and it's all really shiatty for the kids involved. At least the Jesus Camp kids are being inculcated with a religion that is, if not particularly compatible with, related to and not openly hostile to the foundations of modern western culture.
 
2014-03-27 05:38:56 PM  
She was a secret retard. Now just a plain retard.
 
2014-03-27 05:41:19 PM  

clambam: I'd be inclined to be more sympathetic if her folks weren't trying to blow up my folks in the Middle East. That said, a disturbing trend in Western terrorism is the amenability of highly educated, socially-accepted Muslims -- like the author -- to engage in terrorist acts. Generally speaking, in Muslim culture it's the economically and culturally disadvantaged who strap on a beltful of TNT and go blow up a checkpoint. The willingness of upper and upper middle class Muslims like Major Hasan or Faisal Shahzad to undertake terror attacks (although you'll note both survived their attempts, so the fanatical desire to die for the cause may not be there) means that no Muslim is above suspicion. Sorry, just the way it is.

I recall after 9/11 reading an interview with a Saudi government minister in which he said something along the lines of "Don't blow the issue out of proportion. Only about 1% of our young men support terrorism." If we had a "one percent" terrorism problem in this country, there would be 1.5 million terrorists or terror supporters wandering around. One percent is a terrible statistic and if it exists in our American Muslim population, we have a pretty serious problem too (that works out to 15,000 Tsarnaevs running round). While I feel great sympathy for this woman's perceived mistreatment because of her religion, ultimately the fault is with Islam in that they are producing the lion's share of international terrorists. The problem could be squelched pretty quickly if the religious authorities in Teheran and Riyadh came out strongly against terrorism. Announcing that any Muslim who engaged in a terrorist attack would burn in hell would effectively put an end to the problem. But of course, the Muslim religious authorities actually do support terrorism as a tool of statecraft. It has proven enormously effective in the religio-cultural war they see going on between the Muslim world and the West, eliciting lopsided, expensive and ineffective responses from West ...


clambam: So I say, fark 'em and the camel they came in on.



So you're a barking racist, Islamaphobe, and general bigot.  Check.
 
2014-03-27 06:06:55 PM  

loki see loki do: I do not believe the line about a school teacher saying Muslims are evil for a goddamned minute.


Eh, there are lots of stories about this sort of thing happening.  People went a little crazy after 9/11.  It was completely normal to publicly and very matter-of-factly label all followers of Islam Evil.  Unfortunately, teachers and school administrators were not immune, and the effects lasted a long time.

It was a shock to see how easy it was to make my friends, family and neighbors publically demonize a diverse group of people based on a single common trait.   I'm not at al
 
2014-03-27 06:23:29 PM  

wingedkat: loki see loki do: I do not believe the line about a school teacher saying Muslims are evil for a goddamned minute.

Eh, there are lots of stories about this sort of thing happening.  People went a little crazy after 9/11.  It was completely normal to publicly and very matter-of-factly label all followers of Islam Evil.  Unfortunately, teachers and school administrators were not immune, and the effects lasted a long time.

It was a shock to see how easy it was to make my friends, family and neighbors publically demonize a diverse group of people based on a single common trait.   I'm not at al..


... all surprised that a teacher would have done that shortly after 9/11.  I wouldn't be that surprised if it happened now.

/Don't know where that last sentence went between enter and post.
 
2014-03-27 06:31:27 PM  

ikanreed: Mikey1969: and neither are Muslims.

Evangelism, like in Christianity, is a written doctrine of Islam.  It's not like one of the pillars of Islam or anything, but some Muslims do seek converts.  Which is okay.  I'm not trying to judge it, especially much, but it does happen.


It's called dawah and they don't push it on you, or they shouldn't because that's not in the spirit of it.  I've performed dawah and as soon as someone says "no thanks" or "I'm not interested" we say "ok, that's cool."  Some Muslims now perform dawah as a way to just show Islam isn't scary and as a way to talk to a Muslim openly.  I've found atheists and agnostics to be the most informed and the nicest people who are open to dialogue, while the fundamentalist Christians are the most judgmental (especially when they find out I'm a convert.)

Live and let live.  People should be able to believe what they want and walk down the street with a hijab (or similarly a tichel), a crucifix on a t-shirt, or nun's habit, or whatever and just be left the fark alone.
 
2014-03-27 06:45:03 PM  
Instead of hiding it how about you just  stop being Muslim.
 
2014-03-27 07:16:25 PM  

manbart: I think you forgot to preface that with "I'm not racist, but..."



Khellendros: So you're a barking racist, Islamaphobe, and general bigot.  Check.


The Jews are the only people in the world who are accused of racism for disliking the people who keep trying to kill them.
 
2014-03-27 07:17:50 PM  

JesusJuice: Instead of hiding it how about you just  stop being Muslim.


After September 11th, somebody asked Muhammad Ali how he felt knowing the hijackers were Muslims. He replied "Religions all have different names, but they all contain the same truths. ... I think the people of our religion should be tolerant and understand people believe different things."
 
2014-03-27 07:24:48 PM  
I was raised Muslim and sincerely believed in it for a long time, though these days I tend not to be satisfied without proof and I don't find any proof for any religion.

I'm about as white as they come and I don't have any real Mediterranean features so no one would think I'm of foreign descent by looking at me.  I grew up hearing the same sort of ignorant things that the author describes and being in the same position of not wanting to say anything.  By the time 9/11 rolled around, I was in my mid 20s and was told to my face by a coworker that I should go back to Iraq, even though I grew up in Washington DC and haven't a drop of Iraqi blood.   The next day, someone circulated an email with various anti-Islamic statements which resulted in a number of replies in support, but when I replied suggesting patience and tolerance I was brought in for a reprimand.

Being a Muslim in the US means that you are always an "other."  You always carry guilt by association for the acts of every member of your faith who performs some damnable act.  It means that you'd better not be too vocal about who you are or what you think because it will draw suspicion and possibly danger.  And you had definitely better not respond when people say something ignorant or bigoted because you'll just be called a terrorist sympathizer or an apologist.
 
2014-03-27 07:27:25 PM  

JesusJuice: Instead of hiding it how about you just  stop being Muslim.


It's not enough to simply select ignore. There really needs to be a [Shame] button option.
 
2014-03-27 08:05:08 PM  

Stile4aly: I was raised Muslim and sincerely believed in it for a long time, though these days I tend not to be satisfied without proof and I don't find any proof for any religion.

I'm about as white as they come and I don't have any real Mediterranean features so no one would think I'm of foreign descent by looking at me.  I grew up hearing the same sort of ignorant things that the author describes and being in the same position of not wanting to say anything.  By the time 9/11 rolled around, I was in my mid 20s and was told to my face by a coworker that I should go back to Iraq, even though I grew up in Washington DC and haven't a drop of Iraqi blood.   The next day, someone circulated an email with various anti-Islamic statements which resulted in a number of replies in support, but when I replied suggesting patience and tolerance I was brought in for a reprimand.

Being a Muslim in the US means that you are always an "other."  You always carry guilt by association for the acts of every member of your faith who performs some damnable act.  It means that you'd better not be too vocal about who you are or what you think because it will draw suspicion and possibly danger.  And you had definitely better not respond when people say something ignorant or bigoted because you'll just be called a terrorist sympathizer or an apologist.


Our whole society has been conditioned to think that if someone/something is Middle Eastern and/or Muslim, it must be "EVULZ!". It's utterly Pavlovian. When Timothy McVeigh bombed Oklahoma City back in 1995, everyone immediately assumed it was a Middle Easterner/Muslim, with the FBI seeking out Arab translators. It's also why Greek Yogurt is called "Greek Yogurt" instead of "Turkish Yogurt".
 
2014-03-27 08:40:20 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: Stile4aly: I was raised Muslim and sincerely believed in it for a long time, though these days I tend not to be satisfied without proof and I don't find any proof for any religion.

I'm about as white as they come and I don't have any real Mediterranean features so no one would think I'm of foreign descent by looking at me.  I grew up hearing the same sort of ignorant things that the author describes and being in the same position of not wanting to say anything.  By the time 9/11 rolled around, I was in my mid 20s and was told to my face by a coworker that I should go back to Iraq, even though I grew up in Washington DC and haven't a drop of Iraqi blood.   The next day, someone circulated an email with various anti-Islamic statements which resulted in a number of replies in support, but when I replied suggesting patience and tolerance I was brought in for a reprimand.

Being a Muslim in the US means that you are always an "other."  You always carry guilt by association for the acts of every member of your faith who performs some damnable act.  It means that you'd better not be too vocal about who you are or what you think because it will draw suspicion and possibly danger.  And you had definitely better not respond when people say something ignorant or bigoted because you'll just be called a terrorist sympathizer or an apologist.

Our whole society has been conditioned to think that if someone/something is Middle Eastern and/or Muslim, it must be "EVULZ!". It's utterly Pavlovian. When Timothy McVeigh bombed Oklahoma City back in 1995, everyone immediately assumed it was a Middle Easterner/Muslim, with the FBI seeking out Arab translators. It's also why Greek Yogurt is called "Greek Yogurt" instead of "Turkish Yogurt".


Rioting over political cartoons doesn't exactly help your image.

/Every Muslim I have ever met was a very well-mannered & intelligent individual.
 
2014-03-27 08:49:19 PM  

Cletus C.: Could be he he knows a teacher saying such a thing would probably result in them getting fired if it got out.


The Union Thugs make it impossible to fire a teacher.

/This is what wingnuts actually believe
 
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