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(Pro Football Talk)   Goodell says millions of fans want an NFL team in Los Angeles. A couple thousand of them might actually attend the games. You know, after two or three Super Bowl victories of course. And assuming the 105 isn't too backed up   (profootballtalk.nbcsports.com) divider line 59
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2014-03-27 01:33:50 PM  
And assuming the 105 isn't too backed up...

Umm...I think you mean the 405 or the 110.
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2014-03-27 01:42:36 PM  
Shouldn't Cleveland and Detroit get teams first?
 
2014-03-27 01:51:39 PM  
Every city deserves a team before L.A.

L.A. sports fans don't deserve a team.

When the Lakers win a championship, this happens.

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2014-03-27 02:09:17 PM  

Beerguy: And assuming the 105 isn't too backed up...

Umm...I think you mean the 405 or the 110.


it's LA, name a freeway that isn't backed up.
 
2014-03-27 02:09:23 PM  
LA's more valuable to the NFL as a red-herring than as a viable expansion/ relocation option.

After all, where will teams threaten to relocate to in order to extort hundreds of millions in tax dollars from their already financially-strapped cities? San Antonio? Salt Lake? Portland?

No, LA will remain teamless. More $$ that way.
 
2014-03-27 02:11:30 PM  
Hey Goodell if this is such a slam-dunk success story waiting to happen, how about you build the damn stadium with NFL money instead of looking for a handout?
 
2014-03-27 02:12:19 PM  

drew46n2: LA's more valuable to the NFL as a red-herring than as a viable expansion/ relocation option.

After all, where will teams threaten to relocate to in order to extort hundreds of millions in tax dollars from their already financially-strapped cities? San Antonio? Salt Lake? Portland?

No, LA will remain teamless. More $$ that way.


Even moreso when you add whichever city would have managed to lose a team to be added to that list.
 
2014-03-27 02:15:33 PM  

drew46n2: After all, where will teams threaten to relocate to in order to extort hundreds of millions in tax dollars from their already financially-strapped cities?


They usually toss Vegas around for that, even though the NFL will NEVER allow a team here.
 
2014-03-27 02:16:16 PM  

Beerguy: Every city deserves a team before L.A.

L.A. sports fans don't deserve a team.

When the Lakers win a championship, this happens.

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Is there a team that won or lost a world championship where there wasn't some violence after?

http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/police-post-super-bowl-violence-incl ud ed-husky-foo/ndFHh/

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2013/02/04/rowdy-fans-pack-the-streets -a fter-ravens-win-the-super-bowl/

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Downtown+Vancouver+erupts+into+viol en ce+after+Stanley+loss/4953918/story.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/28/us/cleanup-begins-in-oakland-after -v iolence-on-team-s-loss.html
 
2014-03-27 02:16:27 PM  

Beerguy: And assuming the 105 isn't too backed up...

Umm...I think you mean the 405 or the 110.


Probably. I looked a map of LA freeways and picked one.
 
2014-03-27 02:16:46 PM  

Beerguy: Every city deserves a team before L.A.

L.A. sports fans don't deserve a team.

When the Lakers win a championship, this happens.


Don't worry that won't be happening again any time soon.
 
2014-03-27 02:17:12 PM  
Yeah, well, millions of Americans don't want to pay for cable tv or tiers on cable tv to watch NFL football.

Millions of Americans don't want to pay for new NFL stadiums for "home" teams that can't wait to leave town if the money ain't right.

Millions want fewer commercials and fewer timeouts during tv coverage.

Millions want professional and honest referees.

Millions want gambling--legal and illegal--removed from the NFL.

Millions want the "gladiator-warrior" marketing hype removed from the game.

Millions want the Super Bowl to be more than a half-time show and vehicle for what appears to be some sort of popularity contest for new commercials.

Millions want the NFL to keep their performance enhancing drugs out of US colleges, high schools and grade schools.

Millions want affordable ticket prices, affordable concession prices and a safe, decent environment to watch a live football game in.

Millions want professional sports to stop rigging games so that major markets get all the championships and all the tv coverage.

We're waiting, Roger. After you get finished blackmailing the citizens of Los Angeles into funding your new stadium and team, let us know what you're going to do about what we really want.

After all, we're cheering for those things, Roger.
 
2014-03-27 02:18:00 PM  

jbc: Shouldn't Cleveland and Detroit get teams first?


I just assumed that the fans in Cleveland and Detroit were the people Goodell was talking about.  Sort of a "take my wife--please!" situation.
 
2014-03-27 02:19:56 PM  

jayhawk88: Beerguy: And assuming the 105 isn't too backed up...

Umm...I think you mean the 405 or the 110.

Probably. I looked a map of LA freeways and picked one.


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2014-03-27 02:24:50 PM  
You would think that they would put a team somewhere in the Bible Belt where football is king. Someplace like Alabama.
 
2014-03-27 02:28:50 PM  
Most L.A. People seem happy that no game has to be blacked out.
 
2014-03-27 02:28:51 PM  

ongbok: Someplace like Alabama.


Don't they already have professional football?
 
2014-03-27 02:34:36 PM  
California has enough professional sports teams already, make them steal the chargers or 49ers if LA has to have a team.
 
2014-03-27 02:36:16 PM  
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2014-03-27 02:37:25 PM  

jayhawk88: Beerguy: And assuming the 105 isn't too backed up...

Umm...I think you mean the 405 or the 110.

Probably. I looked a map of LA freeways and picked one.


I just mentioned the 405 and 110 because those are the two that are notorious for causing a gridlock domino effect.
 
2014-03-27 02:38:59 PM  

Beerguy: When the Lakers win a championship, this happens.


I'm from Boston so I hold no warm fuzzies for the Lakers at all, but...that's a strange thing to hold against a city.

"A FEW OF YOU GUYS GOT REAL ROWDY THAT ONE TIME SO FARK YOU ALL AND I HOPE ALL YOUR TEAMS SUCK BECAUSE OF THAT THING I'M FOR NO RATIONAL REASON TAKING REAL OFFENSE TOWARDS"
 
2014-03-27 02:41:26 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: Yeah, well, millions of Americans don't want to pay for cable tv or tiers on cable tv to watch NFL football.

Millions of Americans don't want to pay for new NFL stadiums for "home" teams that can't wait to leave town if the money ain't right.

Millions want fewer commercials and fewer timeouts during tv coverage.

Millions want professional and honest referees.

Millions want gambling--legal and illegal--removed from the NFL.

Millions want the "gladiator-warrior" marketing hype removed from the game.

Millions want the Super Bowl to be more than a half-time show and vehicle for what appears to be some sort of popularity contest for new commercials.

Millions want the NFL to keep their performance enhancing drugs out of US colleges, high schools and grade schools.

Millions want affordable ticket prices, affordable concession prices and a safe, decent environment to watch a live football game in.

Millions want professional sports to stop rigging games so that major markets get all the championships and all the tv coverage.

We're waiting, Roger. After you get finished blackmailing the citizens of Los Angeles into funding your new stadium and team, let us know what you're going to do about what we really want.

After all, we're cheering for those things, Roger.


Half derp, half herp. Nicely done.
 
2014-03-27 02:46:37 PM  

uncoveror: Most L.A. People seem happy that no game has to be blacked out.


It sucked being in a city with a team. Until the RedZone.
 
2014-03-27 02:49:27 PM  

dripping with sarcasm: uncoveror: Most L.A. People seem happy that no game has to be blacked out.

It sucked being in a city with

the Cardinals pretending to be a team. Until the RedZone.

FTFM
 
2014-03-27 03:00:33 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: Yeah, well, millions of Americans don't want to pay for cable tv or tiers on cable tv to watch NFL football.

True

Millions of Americans don't want to pay for new NFL stadiums for "home" teams that can't wait to leave town if the money ain't right. True

Millions want fewer commercials and fewer timeouts during tv coverage. True

Millions want professional and honest referees.True 

Millions want gambling--legal and illegal--removed from the NFL. ...Millions of people, maybe, but... fans? Doubt it.

Millions want the "gladiator-warrior" marketing hype removed from the game. Maybe

Millions want the Super Bowl to be more than a half-time show and vehicle for what appears to be some sort of popularity contest for new commercials.
True.

Millions want the NFL to keep their performance enhancing drugs out of US colleges, high schools and grade schools.
And out of the NFL.

Millions want affordable ticket prices, affordable concession prices and a safe, decent environment to watch a live football game in. True.

Millions want professional sports to stop rigging games so that major markets get all the championships and all the tv coverage.
The games are not rigged.
 
2014-03-27 03:05:39 PM  

haemaker: Is there a team that won or lost a world championship where there wasn't some violence after?


New Orleans had no violence.  I'm sure a drunkard punched another drunkard somewhere... but certainly nothing notable.  People of all races and cultures were partying together.  It was very cool.

During the Super Bowl, 911 was basically a ghost town, from reports I heard.
 
2014-03-27 03:19:00 PM  

This Looks Fun: TheShavingofOccam123: Yeah, well, millions of Americans don't want to pay for cable tv or tiers on cable tv to watch NFL football. True

Millions of Americans don't want to pay for new NFL stadiums for "home" teams that can't wait to leave town if the money ain't right. True

Millions want fewer commercials and fewer timeouts during tv coverage. True

Millions want professional and honest referees.True 

Millions want gambling--legal and illegal--removed from the NFL. ...Millions of people, maybe, but... fans? Doubt it.

Millions want the "gladiator-warrior" marketing hype removed from the game. Maybe. 

Millions want the Super Bowl to be more than a half-time show and vehicle for what appears to be some sort of popularity contest for new commercials. True.

Millions want the NFL to keep their performance enhancing drugs out of US colleges, high schools and grade schools. And out of the NFL.

Millions want affordable ticket prices, affordable concession prices and a safe, decent environment to watch a live football game in. True.

Millions want professional sports to stop rigging games so that major markets get all the championships and all the tv coverage. The games are not rigged.


I could make the playoffs on that winning percentage. If the damn games weren't rigged.
 
2014-03-27 03:40:51 PM  
The NFL has done just fine with no team in LA
 
2014-03-27 03:43:47 PM  

jbc: Shouldn't Cleveland and Detroit get teams first?


Hey! This is an NFL thread. You want the NBA thread. No, wait, you want the MBL thread. Oh forget it.
 
2014-03-27 04:01:00 PM  
If LA gets a team, how will they blackmail the rest of the home cities into replacing perfectly good stadiums?
 
2014-03-27 04:02:43 PM  

TheGreatGazoo: If LA gets a team, how will they blackmail the rest of the home cities into replacing perfectly good stadiums?


cdn.mos.totalfilm.com
 
2014-03-27 04:05:26 PM  

TheGreatGazoo: If LA gets a team, how will they blackmail the rest of the home cities into replacing perfectly good stadiums?


www.cicorp.com
 
2014-03-27 04:21:04 PM  
haemaker:
Is there a team that won or lost a world championship where there wasn't some violence after?


None in Indianapolis, when winning or losing a Super Bowl, nor when the Pacers lost in the NBA finals...  so, yeah, some of us have class.
 
2014-03-27 04:22:14 PM  

downstairs: haemaker: Is there a team that won or lost a world championship where there wasn't some violence after?

New Orleans had no violence.  I'm sure a drunkard punched another drunkard somewhere... but certainly nothing notable.  People of all races and cultures were partying together.  It was very cool.

During the Super Bowl, 911 was basically a ghost town, from reports I heard.


And the Seattle violence citation is a couple of Huskies that were Broncos fans going out, finding Seahawks fans, and assaulting them. Hardly something to blame on the celebrating Seahawks crowd.

/the problem is that in cities of any size, there is violence every day, and people want to tie in regular violence as though it's championship-related.
 
2014-03-27 04:22:46 PM  
Fans want what Goodell tells them they want. At least, that's what Roger says.
 
2014-03-27 04:27:23 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: Yeah, well, millions of Americans don't want to pay for cable tv or tiers on cable tv to watch NFL football.

Millions of Americans don't want to pay for new NFL stadiums for "home" teams that can't wait to leave town if the money ain't right.

Millions want fewer commercials and fewer timeouts during tv coverage.

Millions want professional and honest referees.

Millions want gambling--legal and illegal--removed from the NFL.

Millions want the "gladiator-warrior" marketing hype removed from the game.

Millions want the Super Bowl to be more than a half-time show and vehicle for what appears to be some sort of popularity contest for new commercials.

Millions want the NFL to keep their performance enhancing drugs out of US colleges, high schools and grade schools.

Millions want affordable ticket prices, affordable concession prices and a safe, decent environment to watch a live football game in.

Millions want professional sports to stop rigging games so that major markets get all the championships and all the tv coverage.

We're waiting, Roger. After you get finished blackmailing the citizens of Los Angeles into funding your new stadium and team, let us know what you're going to do about what we really want.

After all, we're cheering for those things, Roger.


You go from head-nodding to "um, no..." to "well, you're insane" rather quickly in here.

What kind of asshat wants to remove gambling from sports? If anything, make it legal everywhere, so it makes it much easier to trace the money and tell when things are being fixed.
 
2014-03-27 04:33:41 PM  

Kevin Lomax: Millions want affordable ticket prices,


I like ticket prices just the way they are - as a luxury item that not everyone can afford.  It makes it a lot easier to get tickets for those of us who don't make a living replenishing the all-you-can-eat ribs trough at Golden Corral.
 
2014-03-27 04:39:56 PM  
Goodell can't do anything about ticket prices. Stubhub and whatnot has really laid bare the supply and demand aspect of tickets, and messing with the face value won't change that. Popular teams could double the prices and nothing would change, the bad teams could give tickets away and have a half-empty stadium.
 
2014-03-27 04:47:12 PM  
I always laugh at the argument that the NFL actually makes "more" money because LA doesn't have a team. What a farking joke.

Now, if you don't want to put one in LA for a variety of reasons, that still doesn't address the issue of Jacksonville having a team.
 
2014-03-27 04:48:40 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: Millions want the NFL to keep their performance enhancing drugs out of US colleges, high schools and grade schools.


How, exactly, is it the NFL's responsibility to monitor PED use in schools?  Hell, how CAN the NFL keep PED use out of high school?  Conduct random drug tests in every high school in America?

TheShavingofOccam123: Millions want professional sports to stop rigging games so that major markets get all the championships and all the tv coverage.


Major markets like Baltimore, Green Bay, or Indianapolis.  Hell, calling Denver a major market is a bit of a stretch.
 
2014-03-27 04:56:41 PM  
In LA and this place is miserable. The coasts knock fly overs all the time, I say keep em. This city is a gross shiat smelling hole.
 
2014-03-27 05:05:29 PM  

llortcM_yllort: TheShavingofOccam123: Millions want the NFL to keep their performance enhancing drugs out of US colleges, high schools and grade schools.

How, exactly, is it the NFL's responsibility to monitor PED use in schools?  Hell, how CAN the NFL keep PED use out of high school?  Conduct random drug tests in every high school in America?


The abuse of drugs in the NFL encourages and pretty much forces young players to take drugs to get big and fast.  If the league threw players out of the league for PEDs, it might cut down on the amount used in other arenas. Additionally, the NFL uses college teams as their farm league so the NFL should do what it can to discourage PED at the college level and below.

TheShavingofOccam123: Millions want professional sports to stop rigging games so that major markets get all the championships and all the tv coverage.

Major markets like Baltimore, Green Bay, or Indianapolis.  Hell, calling Denver a major market is a bit of a stretch.


All right, that's more of an NBA problem.  I'll give you that one if you'll give me the idea that Dallas is America's TeamTM because of its weather, stadium, ownership, marketing, schedule and central location. And not so much because of its football talent.
 
2014-03-27 05:10:02 PM  

great_tigers: This city is a gross shiat smelling hole.


818-like typing detected
 
2014-03-27 05:10:06 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: If the league threw players out of the league for PEDs


there wouldn't be an NFL left
 
2014-03-27 05:46:45 PM  
Lookis like we got us a standard headline. The freeway to 105% retarded
 
2014-03-27 05:52:26 PM  
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.  It didn't work the first two times you tried it, its not going to work now.
 
2014-03-27 05:57:33 PM  

Warlordtrooper: The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.  It didn't work the first two times you tried it, its not going to work now.


Because Al Davis fleeing and stealing cash when he couldn't get a free stadium because LA had to repair itself after riots and an earthquake and Georgia Frontiere inheriting a franchise from her husband and Major-Leaguing her way back to St. Louis, her home, is totally indicative of whether a team would be supported.

Neither move had anything to do with a lack of fan support.
 
2014-03-27 06:01:19 PM  

jbc: Shouldn't Cleveland and Detroit get teams first?


and Oakland

/raiders fan since 1970
//miracle season of george blanda
///fark all you haters
 
2014-03-27 07:16:27 PM  

Beerguy: Every city deserves a team before L.A.

L.A. sports fans don't deserve a team.

When the Lakers win a championship, this happens.

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Nobody parties like Detroit.

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2014-03-27 07:39:01 PM  
Canadians know how to party too:

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IAmRight: Because Al Davis fleeing and stealing cash when he couldn't get a free stadium because LA had to repair itself after riots and an earthquake and Georgia Frontiere inheriting a franchise from her husband and Major-Leaguing her way back to St. Louis, her home, is totally indicative of whether a team would be supported.

This x infinity. The Raiders were hugely popular here because unlike the Rams, they had a lot of black and Latino fans, but nah, move on back to that shiathole stadium in Oakland, you pussbag Davis. As for the mobbed-up prostitute lounge singer, after her husband drowned, she did everything she could to torpedo the team here, including turning Anaheim Stadium in to terrible football and baseball stadium and chasing off one of the best running backs in NFL history. Way to go!

C'mon NFL, help AEG pay for Farmer's Field, just do it.
 
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