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(National Journal)   "I basically had an epiphany," Ritter said. "There was not an NRA for knife owners"   (nationaljournal.com) divider line 184
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2014-03-27 12:05:36 PM  
Why "Dumbass", subby?  It says "arms", not "firearms".  Knives are arms.
 
2014-03-27 12:15:30 PM  

dittybopper: Why "Dumbass", subby?  It says "arms", not "firearms".  Knives are arms.


Why is it OK for me to carry a .45 but not a big 'ol knife in sooo many places? And why is it OK to have an auto-loading firearm, but not an auto-opening knife?

Knife laws are stupid, even more so than gun laws.
 
2014-03-27 12:29:52 PM  
I was in the hallowed confines of the right and just Maricopa County last week and I saw a protuberated Safeway employee - a young, crackerjack sack packer hellbent for leather and wearing a patriot's gaze - with about a 12" hunting knife sticking out of the back of his overburdened, elastic khakis.

I can tell you that when he's all that's standing between you and a dozen angry pensioners in Medipeds and straw hats, you'll be thankful for the Knife Rights Movement.
 
2014-03-27 12:31:07 PM  

dr_blasto: dittybopper: Why "Dumbass", subby?  It says "arms", not "firearms".  Knives are arms.

Why is it OK for me to carry a .45 but not a big 'ol knife in sooo many places? And why is it OK to have an auto-loading firearm, but not an auto-opening knife?

Knife laws are stupid, even more so than gun laws.


I wonder what Wayne LaPierre would say about open carry katana laws.
 
2014-03-27 12:33:43 PM  
"I'll give up my knife when you pry it from my cold, dead hand!"
   -- Aron Ralston

"We grilled the suspect"
   -- Some flesh news-hungry reporter at Fox
 
2014-03-27 12:38:43 PM  

nmrsnr: dr_blasto: dittybopper: Why "Dumbass", subby?  It says "arms", not "firearms".  Knives are arms.

Why is it OK for me to carry a .45 but not a big 'ol knife in sooo many places? And why is it OK to have an auto-loading firearm, but not an auto-opening knife?

Knife laws are stupid, even more so than gun laws.

I wonder what Wayne LaPierre would say about open carry katana laws.


Asian swords aren't for showing off in public. They're strictly for wall mounting and keeping their owners single.
 
2014-03-27 12:47:12 PM  

nmrsnr: dr_blasto: dittybopper: Why "Dumbass", subby?  It says "arms", not "firearms".  Knives are arms.

Why is it OK for me to carry a .45 but not a big 'ol knife in sooo many places? And why is it OK to have an auto-loading firearm, but not an auto-opening knife?

Knife laws are stupid, even more so than gun laws.

I wonder what Wayne LaPierre would say about open carry katana laws.


Doesn't matter.  The NRA is a firearms-oriented organization.
 
2014-03-27 12:49:09 PM  
finally, i can carry my hanzo steel around in my day to day life

people will know I mean business

i will finalyl get the respect i deserve

but beware. once drawn, my sword can not be sheathed until it has tasted blood

excuse me i asked for no mayo
 
2014-03-27 12:56:33 PM  

sigdiamond2000: I was in the hallowed confines of the right and just Maricopa County last week and I saw a protuberated Safeway employee - a young, crackerjack sack packer hellbent for leather and wearing a patriot's gaze - with about a 12" hunting knife sticking out of the back of his overburdened, elastic khakis.

I can tell you that when he's all that's standing between you and a dozen angry pensioners in Medipeds and straw hats, you'll be thankful for the Knife Rights Movement.


A knife won't help you against a wrinkly. You have to practically cut his arm off before he starts bleeding. You'll be trying to stab or slash or saw your way through a half inch of leather, and all it's doing is making him grumpier. "And another thing, sonny!" Then he'll whack you upside the head with his cane, again. If you're skillful enough with a blade to be successful, it won't matter. Even after you cut his arm off, it will only be a trickle of blood, and not nearly enough to matter. Those dessicated husks only require about a quarter pint to live. He's going to keep beating you with that cane until you run away, so that's what you should have done in the first place. Your knife just got you a whooping, that's all.
 
2014-03-27 12:57:06 PM  

dittybopper: Why "Dumbass", subby?  It says "arms", not "firearms".  Knives are arms.


How does this affect open carry of double-bladed axes and war-hammers?

I'm going bar hopping Saturday night and need to know before then.
 
2014-03-27 12:57:57 PM  

dittybopper: Doesn't matter. The NRA is a firearms-oriented organization.


It would matter very much if he had a problem with people being allowed to carry broadswords down the street, since it would make him an enormous hypocrite.
 
2014-03-27 01:00:07 PM  
what about guns designed to shoot knives
 
2014-03-27 01:01:09 PM  
Ah yes, America and its unhealthy obsession with violence and ways to deliver it.

I love how the rest of us are just supposed to tolerate it.
 
2014-03-27 01:01:15 PM  

sprawl15: what about guns designed to shoot knives


You mean knife guns?
 
2014-03-27 01:02:22 PM  

sigdiamond2000: sprawl15: what about guns designed to shoot knives

You mean knife guns?


no those are knives designed to shoot guns
 
2014-03-27 01:03:01 PM  

sprawl15: sigdiamond2000: sprawl15: what about guns designed to shoot knives

You mean knife guns?

no those are knives designed to shoot guns


Oh. Right.
 
2014-03-27 01:05:45 PM  
Perhaps he could call it the "Knife Knowledge Kongress".
 
2014-03-27 01:06:33 PM  

nmrsnr: dittybopper: Doesn't matter. The NRA is a firearms-oriented organization.

It would matter very much if he had a problem with people being allowed to carry broadswords down the street, since it would make him an enormous hypocrite.


Well you don't have to worry about him being a hypocrite:

Wayne LaPierre on Knife Rights

The Second Amendment is not just about guns; it is about freedom, the freedom to own the "arms" we choose to own. Whether guns or knives, our founding fathers clearly intended that "the people" would be able to choose their arms freely and that this right would always be protected by the Second Amendment.

Knives are man's most common tool, one ever present at hand of the brave men and women who wake up every morning and go to work to protect us. I am honored to autograph this knife that is widely used by our military in action across the globe. This knife respresents the ideals of service to our country and constitution promoted by NRA's Life of Duty Program.


Knife Rights is the Second Front in Defense of the Second Amendment. They are the premier grassroots organization protecting our right to own knives. Those who love freedom need Knife Rights, so please join me in supporting their mission.
 
2014-03-27 01:07:08 PM  
Our descent into a country where the rights of the too goddamn scared to go anywhere without a gun or a knife are sacrosanct continues.
 
2014-03-27 01:07:17 PM  

dittybopper: Knife Rights is the Second Front in Defense of the Second Amendment. They are the premier grassroots organization protecting our right to own knives. Those who love freedom need Knife Rights, so please join me in supporting their mission.


God what a bunch of derpy bullshiat.
 
2014-03-27 01:08:18 PM  

sprawl15: sigdiamond2000: sprawl15: what about guns designed to shoot knives

You mean knife guns?

no those are knives designed to shoot guns


Pen gun: mightier than the sword. Sword gun: mightier than the pen gun.
 
2014-03-27 01:08:30 PM  

whidbey: dittybopper: Knife Rights is the Second Front in Defense of the Second Amendment. They are the premier grassroots organization protecting our right to own knives. Those who love freedom need Knife Rights, so please join me in supporting their mission.

God what a bunch of derpy bullshiat.


OK, so let me get this straight:

If Wayne LaPierre doesn't support gun rights, he's a hypocrite, but if he does, it's derpy bullshiat.

Is that correct?
 
2014-03-27 01:09:03 PM  
Here's a pic of my Scimitarium. There's one blade for every girl who wronged me in elementary school.

www.swordsoftheeast.com
 
2014-03-27 01:10:10 PM  

whidbey: dittybopper: Knife Rights is the Second Front in Defense of the Second Amendment. They are the premier grassroots organization protecting our right to own knives. Those who love freedom need Knife Rights, so please join me in supporting their mission.

God what a bunch of derpy bullshiat.


What? Telling people what they should and shouldn't own when it has no impact on anyone else? Indeed.
 
2014-03-27 01:10:22 PM  

sigdiamond2000: Here's a pic of my Scimitarium. There's one blade for every girl who wronged me in elementary school.

[www.swordsoftheeast.com image 313x241]


wear them all at once to the post office

get your man card back
 
2014-03-27 01:10:56 PM  
YES!  It's about time us freedom-loving knife enthusiasts finally have a way to keep the knife nabbers from getting their greasy paws on our Constitutionally protected right to defend ourselves with knives.

Just remember, the only defense from a bad guy with a knife is a good guy with a knife.  That's why I spend several hours a week down at the dagger range working on my knifesmanship.  I treat knifery as both a hobby and a lifestyle.   That's why I always carry a kirpan, a corvo, and a concealed cleaver at ALL TIMES.

Check out this sweet baby I picked up at the Tri-County Knife Show:
www.cartertown.com
I bet the knife nabbers are terrified of my SCARY knife.
 
2014-03-27 01:11:18 PM  
I think there needs to be a group to protect the right to carry rocks to protect your self.  Where's my conglomeration?
 
2014-03-27 01:11:31 PM  

MisterTweak: "We grilled the suspect"
   -- Some flesh news-hungry reporter at Fox

"People just couldn't believe it," Cpl. Rudy Lopez, with West Covina Police Department, told KNBC-TV. "He walked into the saw area, picked up a couple of saws in the saw area and started cutting both of his arms."
An off-duty paramedic from the Pasadena Fire Department had been shopping nearby and hurried to the scene.
Hurtado thought the man was dead but when he checked he found breath and a slight pulse and said he thought to himself, "I can give this guy a hand."

 
2014-03-27 01:11:57 PM  

dittybopper: Knife Rights is the Second Front in Defense of the Second Amendment. They are the premier grassroots organization protecting our right to own knives.


I think The National Right to Knife Foundation would probably take issue with that.
 
2014-03-27 01:12:10 PM  

sprawl15: sigdiamond2000: sprawl15: what about guns designed to shoot knives

You mean knife guns?

no those are knives designed to shoot guns


what is this? "The Rifleman"?   KAPOW!  P-TANG!

anyways... knife laws have always been poorly written. Texas recently changed its laws on "assisted opening/automatic knives"...but  most lock blades carried by everyone I know (practically) with a little bit of oil and practice can be opened one handed just as fast as any of the switchblades I own.
just that switchblades have a bad rep  due to being the blade of choice for all villains of the past 80 years in film and television.  I love my Italian made, bayonet tipped stiletto switchblade.  but I've never really bothered carrying it, regardless of stupid laws...as it's bulky and rather heavy for a knife.  mostly I use it to open my mail.
 
2014-03-27 01:12:25 PM  

dittybopper: whidbey: dittybopper: Knife Rights is the Second Front in Defense of the Second Amendment. They are the premier grassroots organization protecting our right to own knives. Those who love freedom need Knife Rights, so please join me in supporting their mission.

God what a bunch of derpy bullshiat.

OK, so let me get this straight:

If Wayne LaPierre doesn't support gun rights, he's a hypocrite, but if he does, it's derpy bullshiat.

Is that correct?


No, I'm just pointing out how insecure and immature your quoted passage was. I mean seriously, some people need to just grow up.
 
2014-03-27 01:12:43 PM  

sprawl15: what about guns designed to shoot knives


still illegal even though bullets might as well be small knives.

This was actually covered in an episode of Sons of Guns.  A guy wanted a ballistic knife.  It turns out...that a spring loaded version was illegal (could be reloaded) and was illegal.  However a single use knife cannon using a black powder charge (which might kill the user as much as the person it was aimed at) was perfectly legal.

So they made a prototype.  Then test-fired it.  Decided that...this is an unsafe and bad idea that will inevitably result in the loss of life or limb of the wielder.

So lesson learned.  don't shoot knives...throw them.
 
2014-03-27 01:14:19 PM  
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a halberd is a good guy with a halberd.
 
2014-03-27 01:15:16 PM  
Say what you will, but I rather stalk an intruder of my home with a blade than a firearm that could potentially stray and hit a loved one or neighbor...

And for street walking, I'd go with a bat'leth over katana any day.
 
2014-03-27 01:15:30 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: The only thing that stops a bad guy with a halberd is a good guy with a halberd.


or a bunch of good guys with longbows.
 
2014-03-27 01:16:53 PM  

Semantic Warrior: Say what you will, but I rather stalk an intruder of my home with a blade than a firearm that could potentially stray and hit a loved one or neighbor...

And for street walking, I'd go with a bat'leth over katana any day.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glaser_Safety_Slug
 
2014-03-27 01:17:18 PM  

Stratohead: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: The only thing that stops a bad guy with a halberd is a good guy with a halberd.

or a bunch of good guys with longbows.


That sounds like Commie Post-Agincourt talk! Don't trend on me, sir.
 
2014-03-27 01:17:52 PM  

Semantic Warrior: Say what you will, but I rather stalk an intruder of my home with a blade than a firearm that could potentially stray and hit a loved one or neighbor...

And for street walking, I'd go with a bat'leth over katana any day.


Except you're more likely to disembowel yourself rather than cut the other guy when you swing one of those.
 
2014-03-27 01:19:35 PM  

TDBoedy: sprawl15: what about guns designed to shoot knives

still illegal even though bullets might as well be small knives.

This was actually covered in an episode of Sons of Guns.  A guy wanted a ballistic knife.  It turns out...that a spring loaded version was illegal (could be reloaded) and was illegal.  However a single use knife cannon using a black powder charge (which might kill the user as much as the person it was aimed at) was perfectly legal.

So they made a prototype.  Then test-fired it.  Decided that...this is an unsafe and bad idea that will inevitably result in the loss of life or limb of the wielder.

So lesson learned.  don't shoot knives...throw them.


I miss my flechettes.
 
2014-03-27 01:20:44 PM  

Jackson Herring: sigdiamond2000: Here's a pic of my Scimitarium. There's one blade for every girl who wronged me in elementary school.

[www.swordsoftheeast.com image 313x241]

wear them all at once to the post office


I shall have no truck with government package or parcel post. I ship all my chattel via a network of citizen couriers.
 
2014-03-27 01:21:24 PM  

Stratohead: Semantic Warrior: Say what you will, but I rather stalk an intruder of my home with a blade than a firearm that could potentially stray and hit a loved one or neighbor...

And for street walking, I'd go with a bat'leth over katana any day.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glaser_Safety_Slug


Yeah not if there's a kid in the house who might have a thin skull or fragile internal organs.
 
2014-03-27 01:21:48 PM  

snocone: TDBoedy: sprawl15: what about guns designed to shoot knives

still illegal even though bullets might as well be small knives.

This was actually covered in an episode of Sons of Guns.  A guy wanted a ballistic knife.  It turns out...that a spring loaded version was illegal (could be reloaded) and was illegal.  However a single use knife cannon using a black powder charge (which might kill the user as much as the person it was aimed at) was perfectly legal.

So they made a prototype.  Then test-fired it.  Decided that...this is an unsafe and bad idea that will inevitably result in the loss of life or limb of the wielder.

So lesson learned.  don't shoot knives...throw them.

I miss my flechettes.


Here ya go:
img2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-03-27 01:24:21 PM  

whidbey: No, I'm just pointing out how insecure and immature your quoted passage was. I mean seriously, some people need to just grow up.


Well, OK, let's look at it.

 Knife Rights is the Second Front in Defense of the Second Amendment.

OK, that sounds about right, if you consider the NRA to be the first front in defense of the Second Amendment, or perhaps "gun organizations" in general, like JPFO, GOA, etc.

They are the premier grassroots organization protecting our right to own knives.

OK, I don't know of any other one off-hand, so that seems like a mere statement of fact.

Those who love freedom need Knife Rights,

Now *THIS* is probably what you mean by 'derpy', but there is a serious effort in OGB to make "anti-stab" knives like this:
www.slipperybrick.com
so that people can't possibly hurt one another for any reason, good or bad.   The idea is to make it impossible for people to own something that can be effectively used as a deadly weapon.

That can't *POSSIBLY* be a good outcome for society as a whole.

 so please join me in supporting their mission.

Asking for money to support something that is consistent with the organization he heads.  Why the nerve!
 
2014-03-27 01:24:59 PM  
Which way to the lirpa support group?
 
2014-03-27 01:25:03 PM  
Damnit, a knife is a tool.  I used to carry a pocketknife everywhere as a kid.  Now I'd get expelled and arrested.  Never, ever saw a knife out in a fight.  I can do as much damage with a screwdriver (more actually) than with most knives people usually carry.
 
2014-03-27 01:25:34 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: The only thing that stops a Blackguard with a halberd is a Paladin with a halberd.

 
2014-03-27 01:25:41 PM  

Smoking GNU: Semantic Warrior: Say what you will, but I rather stalk an intruder of my home with a blade than a firearm that could potentially stray and hit a loved one or neighbor...

And for street walking, I'd go with a bat'leth over katana any day.

Except you're more likely to disembowel yourself rather than cut the other guy when you swing one of those.


You'll cut your eye out, kid.
 
2014-03-27 01:25:51 PM  

dittybopper: Now *THIS* is probably what you mean by 'derpy', but there is a serious effort in OGB to make "anti-stab" knives like this:


A knife without a point is a broken knife.
 
2014-03-27 01:26:31 PM  

Semantic Warrior: Stratohead: Semantic Warrior: Say what you will, but I rather stalk an intruder of my home with a blade than a firearm that could potentially stray and hit a loved one or neighbor...

And for street walking, I'd go with a bat'leth over katana any day.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glaser_Safety_Slug

Yeah not if there's a kid in the house who might have a thin skull or fragile internal organs.


learn to shoot?  the entire point of a safety slug is to prevent over penetration of the target.  I live in an apartment, so I keep my "nightstand" gun loaded with Glasiers for that exact reason. even IF I had to use it , AND I missed somehow at the stupid close range, its not going to penetrate both my walls and my neighbors walls.

but you are welcome to attempt the sweet sword moves you learned watching bad ninja films with a sword thats probably not meant for use as anything more than a display piece.
 
2014-03-27 01:26:46 PM  

dittybopper: Now *THIS* is probably what you mean by 'derpy', but there is a serious effort in OGB to make "anti-stab" knives like this:

so that people can't possibly hurt one another for any reason, good or bad.   The idea is to make it impossible for people to own something that can be effectively used as a deadly weapon.


Because it's impossible to make your own knife, or have someone else forge one.


That can't *POSSIBLY* be a good outcome for society as a whole.

Actually, the rather insecure unhealthy obsession with weapons and violence hasn't been good for society as a whole.
 
2014-03-27 01:26:49 PM  

Smoking GNU: snocone: TDBoedy: sprawl15: what about guns designed to shoot knives

still illegal even though bullets might as well be small knives.

This was actually covered in an episode of Sons of Guns.  A guy wanted a ballistic knife.  It turns out...that a spring loaded version was illegal (could be reloaded) and was illegal.  However a single use knife cannon using a black powder charge (which might kill the user as much as the person it was aimed at) was perfectly legal.

So they made a prototype.  Then test-fired it.  Decided that...this is an unsafe and bad idea that will inevitably result in the loss of life or limb of the wielder.

So lesson learned.  don't shoot knives...throw them.

I miss my flechettes.

Here ya go:
[img2.wikia.nocookie.net image 176x185]


Na, won't clear jungle and it is the sound, man.
 
2014-03-27 01:27:15 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Stratohead: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: The only thing that stops a bad guy with a halberd is a good guy with a halberd.

or a bunch of good guys with longbows.

That sounds like Commie Post-Agincourt talk! Don't trend on me, sir.


The English Army of 1400 AD could have handily defeated the English Army of 1800.  Discuss.
 
2014-03-27 01:27:25 PM  

Rapmaster2000: YES!  It's about time us freedom-loving knife enthusiasts finally have a way to keep the knife nabbers from getting their greasy paws on our Constitutionally protected right to defend ourselves with knives.

Just remember, the only defense from a bad guy with a knife is a good guy with a knife.  That's why I spend several hours a week down at the dagger range working on my knifesmanship.  I treat knifery as both a hobby and a lifestyle.   That's why I always carry a kirpan, a corvo, and a concealed cleaver at ALL TIMES.

Check out this sweet baby I picked up at the Tri-County Knife Show:
[www.cartertown.com image 800x599]
I bet the knife nabbers are terrified of my SCARY knife.


Do they make those with bullets for spikes? Because if they did, that would be badass.

Friggen BULLET SPIKES
 
2014-03-27 01:28:16 PM  
Knife laws can be pretty silly and confusing. But I guess that's all laws, isn't it?
 
2014-03-27 01:31:19 PM  

Galloping Galoshes: dittybopper: Now *THIS* is probably what you mean by 'derpy', but there is a serious effort in OGB to make "anti-stab" knives like this:

A knife without a point is a broken knife.


www.intriguing.com
 
2014-03-27 01:31:56 PM  
Fark yeah! If you outlaw Gladii only outlaws will have Gladii.
 
2014-03-27 01:32:08 PM  

dittybopper: OK, so let me get this straight:

If Wayne LaPierre doesn't support gun knife rights, he's a hypocrite, but if he does, it's derpy bullshiat.

Is that correct?


FTFY.

Sure. If he doesn't support knife rights he's a hypocritical idiot. If he does support knife rights he's still an idiot, just not hypocritical. This is a completely consistent position.
 
2014-03-27 01:32:41 PM  

whidbey: Actually, the rather insecure unhealthy obsession with weapons and violence hasn't been good for society as a whole.


Right now, I have a pocket knife in my pants pocket.  It's such a deadly weapon that they aren't allowed on commercial aircraft, and in point of fact the knife I'm carrying is a military weapon:

www.surplusandoutdoors.com

Yes, I carry a deadly assault US Army pocket knife made by Camillus.  With a shoulder thing that goes up and a .30 caliber can opener that can open ham and motherfarkers in half a second.

I'm obviously a blood-thirsty tiny-penised man obsessed with getting back at society.
 
2014-03-27 01:32:56 PM  
What noise is this?  Give me my long sword, ho!
 
2014-03-27 01:35:12 PM  

Galloping Galoshes: dittybopper: Now *THIS* is probably what you mean by 'derpy', but there is a serious effort in OGB to make "anti-stab" knives like this:

A knife without a point is a broken knife.


Or it's just a specialized tool. Like some dive knives. Or oyster knives. You don't always want to put holes in things. Especially if you spend time on an inflatable rubber raft.
 
2014-03-27 01:35:13 PM  

Galloping Galoshes: dittybopper: Now *THIS* is probably what you mean by 'derpy', but there is a serious effort in OGB to make "anti-stab" knives like this:

A knife without a point is a broken knife.


static.katomcdn.comwww.paulsfinest.com

you'd hate my kitchen, then.
 
2014-03-27 01:35:21 PM  

dittybopper: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Stratohead: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: The only thing that stops a bad guy with a halberd is a good guy with a halberd.

or a bunch of good guys with longbows.

That sounds like Commie Post-Agincourt talk! Don't trend on me, sir.

The English Army of 1400 AD could have handily defeated the English Army of 1800.  Discuss.


The English Army of 1400 would die of dysentery before meeting the 1800 model in the field.
 
2014-03-27 01:36:20 PM  

dittybopper: whidbey: Actually, the rather insecure unhealthy obsession with weapons and violence hasn't been good for society as a whole.

Right now, I have a pocket knife in my pants pocket.  It's such a deadly weapon that they aren't allowed on commercial aircraft, and in point of fact the knife I'm carrying is a military weapon:

[www.surplusandoutdoors.com image 350x250]

Yes, I carry a deadly assault US Army pocket knife made by Camillus.  With a shoulder thing that goes up and a .30 caliber can opener that can open ham and motherfarkers in half a second.

I'm obviously a blood-thirsty tiny-penised man obsessed with getting back at society.


*shrugs*

The TSA is a separate issue?
 
2014-03-27 01:36:27 PM  
This is the thin edge of the wedge.

Next thing you'll know there will be a National Wedge Association. Oops. We got one of those already. It's called the GOP.
 
2014-03-27 01:36:35 PM  
What about poo on a stick?
 
2014-03-27 01:37:15 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: Fark yeah! If you outlaw Gladii only outlaws will have Gladii.


Dad made a gladius.  And a kopis.  And a ninja to.

The kopis is the most impressive of the three.   It's also pretty heavy.  The weight of the sword does the work, as it's a chopping-type of blade.  It's not meant for something like dueling.

Of the three, though, if I were forced to chose just one for social purposes, I'd go with the gladius.
 
2014-03-27 01:39:06 PM  

sigdiamond2000: I was in the hallowed confines of the right and just Maricopa County last week and I saw a protuberated Safeway employee - a young, crackerjack sack packer hellbent for leather and wearing a patriot's gaze - with about a 12" hunting knife sticking out of the back of his overburdened, elastic khakis.

I can tell you that when he's all that's standing between you and a dozen angry pensioners in Medipeds and straw hats, you'll be thankful for the Knife Rights Movement.


hehehe, whatever happened to that guy anyway?  And who thought is was a good idea to let Canis Noir back?
 
2014-03-27 01:39:27 PM  
So what about Final Fantasy gunblades?
 
2014-03-27 01:39:57 PM  

Stratohead: Semantic Warrior: Stratohead: Semantic Warrior: Say what you will, but I rather stalk an intruder of my home with a blade than a firearm that could potentially stray and hit a loved one or neighbor...

And for street walking, I'd go with a bat'leth over katana any day.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glaser_Safety_Slug

Yeah not if there's a kid in the house who might have a thin skull or fragile internal organs.

learn to shoot?  the entire point of a safety slug is to prevent over penetration of the target.  I live in an apartment, so I keep my "nightstand" gun loaded with Glasiers for that exact reason. even IF I had to use it , AND I missed somehow at the stupid close range, its not going to penetrate both my walls and my neighbors walls.

but you are welcome to attempt the sweet sword moves you learned watching bad ninja films with a sword thats probably not meant for use as anything more than a display piece.


First off, the whole reason i wrote "street walking" was talking more about show, to those that had been discussing fancy weapons.  I wasn't implying that was the sort of weapon I'd use in home defense.
Secondly, it's not about learning to shoot, it's about the fact that I find it irresponsible to discharge any firearm when you can barely see your target, and as I keep my home extremely dark at night, a non-firearm is more suitable for my intentions.   Otherwise I'd just shoot intruders with beanbags from a shotgun.
Also, a 6 inch knife concealed on a person can be accessed and utilized in situations where a firearm wouldn't be ideal, such as a close struggle that ends up both parties grappling on the ground.

Regardless, even if you embrace firearms, you're telling me you wouldn't want a knife in your boot to back up the gun on your hip?
 
2014-03-27 01:40:44 PM  
Pretty soon, a suppressed AR-15 with a 12" bayonet will be allowed in a courthouse.
 
2014-03-27 01:41:00 PM  

suebhoney: sigdiamond2000: I was in the hallowed confines of the right and just Maricopa County last week and I saw a protuberated Safeway employee - a young, crackerjack sack packer hellbent for leather and wearing a patriot's gaze - with about a 12" hunting knife sticking out of the back of his overburdened, elastic khakis.

I can tell you that when he's all that's standing between you and a dozen angry pensioners in Medipeds and straw hats, you'll be thankful for the Knife Rights Movement.

hehehe, whatever happened to that guy anyway?  And who thought is was a good idea to let Canis Noir back?


He's got another obvious alt. As for the other dog, the Fark Gods love him after they let him and Tats lead the Iranian Revolution series of threads a few years back.
 
2014-03-27 01:41:17 PM  

dittybopper: Slaves2Darkness: Fark yeah! If you outlaw Gladii only outlaws will have Gladii.

Dad made a gladius.  And a kopis.  And a ninja to.

The kopis is the most impressive of the three.   It's also pretty heavy.  The weight of the sword does the work, as it's a chopping-type of blade.  It's not meant for something like dueling.

Of the three, though, if I were forced to chose just one for social purposes, I'd go with the gladius.


Why did the Kopis fall out of fashion as a cavalry weapon? It'll fark somebody right up. I know it worked well against ancient helmets (which were frequently bronze). Is it ineffective against steel or just too difficult to make?
 
2014-03-27 01:42:00 PM  

dr_blasto: dittybopper: Why "Dumbass", subby?  It says "arms", not "firearms".  Knives are arms.

Why is it OK for me to carry a .45 but not a big 'ol knife in sooo many places? And why is it OK to have an auto-loading firearm, but not an auto-opening knife?

Knife laws are stupid, even more so than gun laws.



THIS

I can legally carry my Glock 17 filled with 17 rounds of hollow point ammo all kinds of places, but I can't have a spring opening knife. That makes TOTAL sense.
 
2014-03-27 01:43:12 PM  
ok i'm all out of jokes about swords

namaste
 
2014-03-27 01:43:53 PM  

SpectroBoy: dr_blasto: dittybopper: Why "Dumbass", subby?  It says "arms", not "firearms".  Knives are arms.

Why is it OK for me to carry a .45 but not a big 'ol knife in sooo many places? And why is it OK to have an auto-loading firearm, but not an auto-opening knife?

Knife laws are stupid, even more so than gun laws.


THIS

I can legally carry my Glock 17 filled with 17 rounds of hollow point ammo all kinds of places, but I can't have a spring opening knife. That makes TOTAL sense.


Pretty sure knives are a lot easier to come by than expensive guns.
 
2014-03-27 01:43:59 PM  

whidbey: suebhoney: sigdiamond2000: I was in the hallowed confines of the right and just Maricopa County last week and I saw a protuberated Safeway employee - a young, crackerjack sack packer hellbent for leather and wearing a patriot's gaze - with about a 12" hunting knife sticking out of the back of his overburdened, elastic khakis.

I can tell you that when he's all that's standing between you and a dozen angry pensioners in Medipeds and straw hats, you'll be thankful for the Knife Rights Movement.

hehehe, whatever happened to that guy anyway?  And who thought is was a good idea to let Canis Noir back?

He's got another obvious alt. As for the other dog, the Fark Gods love him after they let him and Tats lead the Iranian Revolution series of threads a few years back.


I'm well aware of those threads, but as I  peruse the politics tab daily, canis noir has only been back to posting recently.  Haven't seen him in a long time.
 
2014-03-27 01:44:08 PM  
images2.memedroid.com
 
2014-03-27 01:45:02 PM  

whidbey: SpectroBoy: dr_blasto: dittybopper: Why "Dumbass", subby?  It says "arms", not "firearms".  Knives are arms.

Why is it OK for me to carry a .45 but not a big 'ol knife in sooo many places? And why is it OK to have an auto-loading firearm, but not an auto-opening knife?

Knife laws are stupid, even more so than gun laws.


THIS

I can legally carry my Glock 17 filled with 17 rounds of hollow point ammo all kinds of places, but I can't have a spring opening knife. That makes TOTAL sense.

Pretty sure knives are a lot easier to come by than expensive guns.


Weren't a lot of these knife laws a response to the 80s crack epidemic?
 
2014-03-27 01:45:03 PM  

whidbey: suebhoney: sigdiamond2000: I was in the hallowed confines of the right and just Maricopa County last week and I saw a protuberated Safeway employee - a young, crackerjack sack packer hellbent for leather and wearing a patriot's gaze - with about a 12" hunting knife sticking out of the back of his overburdened, elastic khakis.

I can tell you that when he's all that's standing between you and a dozen angry pensioners in Medipeds and straw hats, you'll be thankful for the Knife Rights Movement.

hehehe, whatever happened to that guy anyway?  And who thought is was a good idea to let Canis Noir back?

He's got another obvious alt. As for the other dog, the Fark Gods love him after they let him and Tats lead the Iranian Revolution series of threads a few years back.


And those people remain free to this day.
 
2014-03-27 01:45:19 PM  
Dude, what about a sword that shoots out other swords?
 
2014-03-27 01:46:31 PM  

whidbey: dittybopper: whidbey: Actually, the rather insecure unhealthy obsession with weapons and violence hasn't been good for society as a whole.

Right now, I have a pocket knife in my pants pocket.  It's such a deadly weapon that they aren't allowed on commercial aircraft, and in point of fact the knife I'm carrying is a military weapon:

[www.surplusandoutdoors.com image 350x250]

Yes, I carry a deadly assault US Army pocket knife made by Camillus.  With a shoulder thing that goes up and a .30 caliber can opener that can open ham and motherfarkers in half a second.

I'm obviously a blood-thirsty tiny-penised man obsessed with getting back at society.

*shrugs*

The TSA is a separate issue?


No, no, no, I consider them linked. As long as your soldiers attack civilians, I will order the stabbing of your officers at the outset of every engagement. And my men are excellent swordsmen.
 
2014-03-27 01:46:46 PM  

suebhoney: Haven't seen him in a long time.


He's just as annoying and disingenuous as ever. Odd how the FPT has such a short memory.
 
2014-03-27 01:47:51 PM  
Good luck trying to buy a shoulder launched, infrared surface to air missile if you live in the glide-path of an major airport and have a check mark or two on your criminal record.

Where is Wayne LaPierre  when you need him?
 
2014-03-27 01:49:14 PM  

Riothamus: Weren't a lot of these knife laws a response to the 80s crack epidemic?


Nope.  They were mostly the result of a moral panic in the 1950s due to Hollywood films about gangs and juvenile delinquents.
 
2014-03-27 01:49:23 PM  

Semantic Warrior: Stratohead: Semantic Warrior: Stratohead: Semantic Warrior: Say what you will, but I rather stalk an intruder of my home with a blade than a firearm that could potentially stray and hit a loved one or neighbor...

And for street walking, I'd go with a bat'leth over katana any day.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glaser_Safety_Slug

Yeah not if there's a kid in the house who might have a thin skull or fragile internal organs.

learn to shoot?  the entire point of a safety slug is to prevent over penetration of the target.  I live in an apartment, so I keep my "nightstand" gun loaded with Glasiers for that exact reason. even IF I had to use it , AND I missed somehow at the stupid close range, its not going to penetrate both my walls and my neighbors walls.

but you are welcome to attempt the sweet sword moves you learned watching bad ninja films with a sword thats probably not meant for use as anything more than a display piece.

First off, the whole reason i wrote "street walking" was talking more about show, to those that had been discussing fancy weapons.  I wasn't implying that was the sort of weapon I'd use in home defense.
Secondly, it's not about learning to shoot, it's about the fact that I find it irresponsible to discharge any firearm when you can barely see your target, and as I keep my home extremely dark at night, a non-firearm is more suitable for my intentions.   Otherwise I'd just shoot intruders with beanbags from a shotgun.
Also, a 6 inch knife concealed on a person can be accessed and utilized in situations where a firearm wouldn't be ideal, such as a close struggle that ends up both parties grappling on the ground.

Regardless, even if you embrace firearms, you're telling me you wouldn't want a knife in your boot to back up the gun on your hip?


actually I have a front opening switchblade next to the nightstand pistol.  I also have a baseball bat in the corner...cuz I'm a horrible housekeeper.  Oh...and a tactical flashlight as well...for the whole darkness thing.
anyways my point was more that you don't need a blade solely because you are worried about over-penetration from a bullet...if you take the right precautions.
 
2014-03-27 01:49:44 PM  

dittybopper: whidbey: dittybopper: whidbey: Actually, the rather insecure unhealthy obsession with weapons and violence hasn't been good for society as a whole.

Right now, I have a pocket knife in my pants pocket.  It's such a deadly weapon that they aren't allowed on commercial aircraft, and in point of fact the knife I'm carrying is a military weapon:

[www.surplusandoutdoors.com image 350x250]

Yes, I carry a deadly assault US Army pocket knife made by Camillus.  With a shoulder thing that goes up and a .30 caliber can opener that can open ham and motherfarkers in half a second.

I'm obviously a blood-thirsty tiny-penised man obsessed with getting back at society.

*shrugs*

The TSA is a separate issue?

No, no, no, I consider them linked. As long as your soldiers attack civilians, I will order the stabbing of your officers at the outset of every engagement. And my men are excellent swordsmen.


Dude, can't you practice your voice-over auditions for Call of Duty XXIII some other time/place?
 
2014-03-27 01:50:45 PM  
Personally, I'm more into the defense of my right to carry nunchucks and the right of self-expression to be shirtless and shoeless in a store.
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-03-27 01:51:07 PM  
Approvesimg.fark.net
 
2014-03-27 01:51:24 PM  

Semantic Warrior: Stratohead: Semantic Warrior: Stratohead: Semantic Warrior: Say what you will, but I rather stalk an intruder of my home with a blade than a firearm that could potentially stray and hit a loved one or neighbor...

And for street walking, I'd go with a bat'leth over katana any day.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glaser_Safety_Slug

Yeah not if there's a kid in the house who might have a thin skull or fragile internal organs.

learn to shoot?  the entire point of a safety slug is to prevent over penetration of the target.  I live in an apartment, so I keep my "nightstand" gun loaded with Glasiers for that exact reason. even IF I had to use it , AND I missed somehow at the stupid close range, its not going to penetrate both my walls and my neighbors walls.

but you are welcome to attempt the sweet sword moves you learned watching bad ninja films with a sword thats probably not meant for use as anything more than a display piece.

First off, the whole reason i wrote "street walking" was talking more about show, to those that had been discussing fancy weapons.  I wasn't implying that was the sort of weapon I'd use in home defense.
Secondly, it's not about learning to shoot, it's about the fact that I find it irresponsible to discharge any firearm when you can barely see your target, and as I keep my home extremely dark at night, a non-firearm is more suitable for my intentions.   Otherwise I'd just shoot intruders with beanbags from a shotgun.
Also, a 6 inch knife concealed on a person can be accessed and utilized in situations where a firearm wouldn't be ideal, such as a close struggle that ends up both parties grappling on the ground.

Regardless, even if you embrace firearms, you're telling me you wouldn't want a knife in your boot to back up the gun on your hip?


Bro...don't you even cyno?

enl-i.com
 
2014-03-27 01:52:18 PM  
I mean instead of getting ganked just light a cyno and drop a dread on em.
 
2014-03-27 01:52:37 PM  

whidbey: SpectroBoy: dr_blasto: dittybopper: Why "Dumbass", subby?  It says "arms", not "firearms".  Knives are arms.

Why is it OK for me to carry a .45 but not a big 'ol knife in sooo many places? And why is it OK to have an auto-loading firearm, but not an auto-opening knife?

Knife laws are stupid, even more so than gun laws.


THIS

I can legally carry my Glock 17 filled with 17 rounds of hollow point ammo all kinds of places, but I can't have a spring opening knife. That makes TOTAL sense.

Pretty sure knives are a lot easier to come by than expensive guns.


But it's just flat-out illegal to *CARRY* a spring opening knife, with some minor exceptions usually related to things like actively hunting, trapping, or only having a single arm.

And while it's not illegal to generally possess a switchblade in your home, in many places it's illegal to sell them, so it's actually easier to purchase a Glock than it is to purchase a pocket knife with a spring in it.
 
2014-03-27 01:54:43 PM  

dittybopper: whidbey: Actually, the rather insecure unhealthy obsession with weapons and violence hasn't been good for society as a whole.

Right now, I have a pocket knife in my pants pocket.  It's such a deadly weapon that they aren't allowed on commercial aircraft, and in point of fact the knife I'm carrying is a military weapon:



Yes, I carry a deadly assault US Army pocket knife made by Camillus.  With a shoulder thing that goes up and a .30 caliber can opener that can open ham and motherfarkers in half a second.

I'm obviously a blood-thirsty tiny-penised man obsessed with getting back at society.


You forgot the martyr complex.
 
2014-03-27 01:55:10 PM  
Let's get rid of money all together and have a combat based economy. If you can get past the armed cashier, you win.
 
2014-03-27 01:55:33 PM  

whidbey: Dude, can't you practice your voice-over auditions for Call of Duty XXIII some other time/place?


Actually, that was a quote from "The Patriot", suitably changed for the circumstances.
 
2014-03-27 02:00:32 PM  

gnosis301: You forgot the martyr complex.


You do know that I was parodying the likes of Carolyn "barrel shroud is the shoulder thing that goes up" McCarthy and Kevin "30 caliber magazine clip in half a second" De Leon, right?
 
2014-03-27 02:01:05 PM  

dittybopper: whidbey: SpectroBoy: dr_blasto: dittybopper: Why "Dumbass", subby?  It says "arms", not "firearms".  Knives are arms.

Why is it OK for me to carry a .45 but not a big 'ol knife in sooo many places? And why is it OK to have an auto-loading firearm, but not an auto-opening knife?

Knife laws are stupid, even more so than gun laws.


THIS

I can legally carry my Glock 17 filled with 17 rounds of hollow point ammo all kinds of places, but I can't have a spring opening knife. That makes TOTAL sense.

Pretty sure knives are a lot easier to come by than expensive guns.

But it's just flat-out illegal to *CARRY* a spring opening knife, with some minor exceptions usually related to things like actively hunting, trapping, or only having a single arm.

And while it's not illegal to generally possess a switchblade in your home, in many places it's illegal to sell them, so it's actually easier to purchase a Glock than it is to purchase a pocket knife with a spring in it.


I really don't see the issue with this. Nor do I see how anyone's rights are being infringed.
 
2014-03-27 02:02:46 PM  

skyotter: Galloping Galoshes: dittybopper: Now *THIS* is probably what you mean by 'derpy', but there is a serious effort in OGB to make "anti-stab" knives like this:

A knife without a point is a broken knife.

[static.katomcdn.com image 400x193][www.paulsfinest.com image 405x164]

you'd hate my kitchen, then.


mine has a point.
www.knifeforums.com
 
2014-03-27 02:08:10 PM  
Now when the West was very young
There lived a man, Bat Masterson.
He wore a cane and derby hat --
They called him Bat,
Bat Masterson.
 
2014-03-27 02:09:27 PM  

whidbey: I really don't see the issue with this. Nor do I see how anyone's rights are being infringed.


Even Mother Jones thinks there may well be a case for knife rights to be made.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/knife-rights-second-amen dm ent
 
2014-03-27 02:09:40 PM  
My rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness supersede your right to bear arms. If there's no life, then there's no liberty, and if there's no liberty, then there's no pursuit of happiness.
 
2014-03-27 02:12:22 PM  
Got the Spiderco "UK pen knife" model -- one-handed action but legal in even the most knifophobic nation on Earth. Cheap, pointy, lightweight, sharp, easy. It's pretty fly.
 
2014-03-27 02:14:06 PM  
Knives are a tool, much like guns. Behold knife-wrench. It's practical and safe!

img1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-03-27 02:15:24 PM  

dittybopper: whidbey: I really don't see the issue with this. Nor do I see how anyone's rights are being infringed.

Even Mother Jones thinks there may well be a case for knife rights to be made.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/knife-rights-second-amen dm ent


I didn't see anything in the article other than information on Ritter.

Nor did your article back up any contention that the right to bear arms is being infringed.
 
2014-03-27 02:18:08 PM  
img.fark.net

Until America respects the rights of trident enthusiasts, this country will never truly be free.
 
2014-03-27 02:25:11 PM  
Blade laws are asinine.
Telemachus residents are massholes by default for outlawing blades.

People who are afraid of blades should take a martial arts class or twothousand.

People who are Americans and are afraid are assholes, too.
 
2014-03-27 02:26:06 PM  

dr_blasto: skyotter: Galloping Galoshes: dittybopper: Now *THIS* is probably what you mean by 'derpy', but there is a serious effort in OGB to make "anti-stab" knives like this:

A knife without a point is a broken knife.

[static.katomcdn.com image 400x193][www.paulsfinest.com image 405x164]

you'd hate my kitchen, then.

mine has a point.
[www.knifeforums.com image 850x218]


That farker would never leave my kitchen.
 
2014-03-27 02:28:06 PM  
I carried a knife for much of my life. Not as a weapon, but a useful tool. Usually a fixed blade, or a large folder. I switched to a small pocket knife when I worked in the corporate sector. People sorta freaked over what I consider a basic tool. Even the small pocket knife earned some stares and more than one comment if I used it to open a box.

I work for a commercial printer now, and I carry a razor knife. One of those with the 9 mm snap off blades. I couldn't function without it. And I carry my Fred Carter folder. It opens so slick, just a flick of my thumb and it's ready to go. Easily as fast as any switch blade. And no one even blinks. Funny how white collar and blue collar industries view knives so differently.

I use a knife every day, from cooking at home to work. It's merely another tool to me. I consider a knife a weapon of last resort. It stays in my pocket. I recall only once having to pull out my knife. I was sucker punched, and after I
pulled out the big knife my father made, my antagonist decided maybe it wasn't such a good idea to screw with me. He made himself scarce, and the blade went back into it's sheath. Just the reaction I wanted.
 
2014-03-27 02:29:48 PM  

vudukungfu: dr_blasto: skyotter: Galloping Galoshes: dittybopper: Now *THIS* is probably what you mean by 'derpy', but there is a serious effort in OGB to make "anti-stab" knives like this:

A knife without a point is a broken knife.

[static.katomcdn.com image 400x193][www.paulsfinest.com image 405x164]

you'd hate my kitchen, then.

mine has a point.
[www.knifeforums.com image 850x218]

That farker would never leave my kitchen.


I caught my wife using it to open a box from Amazon once.
 
2014-03-27 02:31:27 PM  
We are not truly free until I can open carry my assault knife!

i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-27 02:32:49 PM  
tifr.us
 
2014-03-27 02:33:42 PM  
Florida law prohibits concealed blades that are longer than 4 inches, but says nothing about open-carry of bladed weapons, of any length, apart from the general prohibition against brandishing any weapon in a menacing way.

Which means that the whole sword-on-back-sheath look = totally legal.

fc06.deviantart.net

0-media-cdn.foolz.us

i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-27 02:34:17 PM  

dr_blasto: I caught my wife using it to open a box from Amazon once.


I hope you explained how much more easily replaceable she was than the tool.
 
2014-03-27 02:34:55 PM  
It's ok to ban knives, because to strike with a knife requires you to be in close proximity to the target, and that's dangerous. The gun fetishists who claim to revere the Second Amendment prefer to feel tough from a safe distance.
 
2014-03-27 02:37:17 PM  
www.gt-deko.de

lugh vIghaj!
 
2014-03-27 02:38:47 PM  

dr_blasto: vudukungfu: dr_blasto: skyotter: Galloping Galoshes: dittybopper: Now *THIS* is probably what you mean by 'derpy', but there is a serious effort in OGB to make "anti-stab" knives like this:

A knife without a point is a broken knife.

[static.katomcdn.com image 400x193][www.paulsfinest.com image 405x164]

you'd hate my kitchen, then.

mine has a point.
[www.knifeforums.com image 850x218]

That farker would never leave my kitchen.

I caught my wife using it to open a box from Amazon once.


Hopefully the subsequent stabbing demonstrated her error.
 
2014-03-27 02:40:34 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: [www.gt-deko.de image 250x179]

lugh vIghaj!


Qapla!
 
2014-03-27 02:41:06 PM  
I have a few Opinel knives. Great little tools, easy to sharpen plain carbon steel, cheap to replace when the TSA steals one, and the farthest thing in the world from any of that ridiculous "tactical" nonsense.

I never considered I might need a lobbyist. Sure this isn't a scheme to enrich this guy?
 
2014-03-27 02:48:52 PM  
Also, first date advice.
Never trust a chick with a Bud K knife collection.

*Twirls finger in circular motion around temple*
 
2014-03-27 02:55:24 PM  

phaseolus: I have a few Opinel knives. Great little tools, easy to sharpen plain carbon steel, cheap to replace when the TSA steals one, and the farthest thing in the world from any of that ridiculous "tactical" nonsense.

I never considered I might need a lobbyist. Sure this isn't a scheme to enrich this guy?


Have you ever checked out Morakinv? They are the fixed-blade equivalent to the Opinel folders.
 
2014-03-27 03:03:37 PM  

vudukungfu: dr_blasto: I caught my wife using it to open a box from Amazon once.

I hope you explained how much more easily replaceable she was than the tool.


Heh. And she is the one that bought it for me, which was how she justified the sickening abuse. Now she knows that's what the Henkels is for.
 
2014-03-27 03:04:46 PM  
+1, boo, hiss
 
2014-03-27 03:12:47 PM  

Jackson Herring: finally, i can carry my hanzo steel around in my day to day life


img3.wikia.nocookie.net

"You've got a Hattori Hanzo sword? Didn't he swear a blood oath never to make another one?"

videos.videopress.com

"It would appear he has broken it".
 
2014-03-27 03:15:06 PM  
Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Dude, what about a sword that shoots out other swords?

I do not recall the title, but there was some gawdsawful fantasy movie a few decades ago, where the hero was carrying one of the most ridiculous swords I *ever* saw.  Hilt and blade like a more or less normal broadsword / longsword, but with two addiitonal, nearly identical blades, running parallel to the center blade, off of the hilt.  The thing looked kinda like the Gillette Mach 3 razor of the Gods.

Completely useless in a fight, and *way* too heavy to wield, unless it's made of cardboard, or you're from Krypton.

It's only justification for existence was so the scriptwriters could spring their 'great surprise' at the end of the movie, when the hero presses a button on the hilt and fires the extra blades, one at a time, like missiles.
 
2014-03-27 03:21:33 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: I do not recall the title, but there was some gawdsawful fantasy movie a few decades ago, where the hero was carrying one of the most ridiculous swords I *ever* saw. Hilt and blade like a more or less normal broadsword / longsword, but with two addiitonal, nearly identical blades, running parallel to the center blade, off of the hilt. The thing looked kinda like the Gillette Mach 3 razor of the Gods.


The Sword and the Sorcerer (1982)

www.mattderody.com
 
2014-03-27 03:22:09 PM  
Lawd!
You just never know if the quote will work on mobile Fark.

That was for Soup4Bonnie
 
2014-03-27 03:31:21 PM  

dr_blasto: vudukungfu: dr_blasto: skyotter: Galloping Galoshes: dittybopper: Now *THIS* is probably what you mean by 'derpy', but there is a serious effort in OGB to make "anti-stab" knives like this:

A knife without a point is a broken knife.

[static.katomcdn.com image 400x193][www.paulsfinest.com image 405x164]

you'd hate my kitchen, then.

mine has a point.
[www.knifeforums.com image 850x218]

That farker would never leave my kitchen.

I caught my wife using it to open a box from Amazon once.


Ugh... I have caught friends and family doing that more times than I am comfortable admitting. Very quick way for me to freak out. Or even worse when I have some one over for dinner and they try to help by putting one of my henkels through the dishwasher.

/ sorry mostly off topic but needed to rant
 
2014-03-27 03:34:07 PM  

vudukungfu: Also, first date advice.
Never trust a chick with a Bud K knife collection.

*Twirls finger in circular motion around temple*


Well yeah she wasted her money on shiatty knives
 
2014-03-27 03:35:18 PM  
Just remember knife enthusiasts if you are going to go all 21 foot rule on a kentucky marshal to look out for open graves of your recently deceased dog.
 
2014-03-27 03:46:47 PM  
p.twimg.com
 
2014-03-27 03:56:54 PM  
I'm a bit surprised that the word "tactical" has only come up like twice in this entire thread.

tactical (adj.) - 1: of or pertaining to knives. 2:having a camouflage pattern 3:both 1: and 2: simultaneously
 
2014-03-27 04:12:17 PM  

dittybopper: if I were forced to chose just one for social purposes, I'd go with the gladius.


I prefer my Katzbalger
 
2014-03-27 04:14:15 PM  

vudukungfu: Also, first date advice.
Never trust a chick with a Bud K knife collection.

*Twirls finger in circular motion around temple*


you dated Oonagh as well?

/in my defense...she didn't show me her knife collection until the 3rd date.
 
2014-03-27 04:19:20 PM  
Wait a second!

So, it's ok for people to own a Betta or a Goldfish, but everyone is up in arms about my poor Knife?

aqualandpetsplus.com

What's he ever done to you?
 
2014-03-27 04:19:51 PM  

LittleSmitty: Funny how white collar and blue collar industries view knives so differently.


I eat an apple a day at my desk.  I always use my pocketknife to cut thin wedges out of it.  It's amazing to see the difference in reactions from various people that pop in and out of my office when they walk into a room full of guy wearing guns.. and OMFG!!!! One of the has a knife!!!!
 
2014-03-27 04:31:01 PM  

Serpentile6: dr_blasto: vudukungfu: dr_blasto: skyotter: Galloping Galoshes: dittybopper: Now *THIS* is probably what you mean by 'derpy', but there is a serious effort in OGB to make "anti-stab" knives like this:

A knife without a point is a broken knife.

[static.katomcdn.com image 400x193][www.paulsfinest.com image 405x164]

you'd hate my kitchen, then.

mine has a point.
[www.knifeforums.com image 850x218]

That farker would never leave my kitchen.

I caught my wife using it to open a box from Amazon once.

Ugh... I have caught friends and family doing that more times than I am comfortable admitting. Very quick way for me to freak out. Or even worse when I have some one over for dinner and they try to help by putting one of my henkels through the dishwasher.

/ sorry mostly off topic but needed to rant


I don't think you even have a clue as to how petty you sound. So they used a kitchen knife to open a farking package? Jesus fark.
 
2014-03-27 04:55:29 PM  

skyotter: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: I do not recall the title, but there was some gawdsawful fantasy movie a few decades ago, where the hero was carrying one of the most ridiculous swords I *ever* saw. Hilt and blade like a more or less normal broadsword / longsword, but with two addiitonal, nearly identical blades, running parallel to the center blade, off of the hilt. The thing looked kinda like the Gillette Mach 3 razor of the Gods.

The Sword and the Sorcerer (1982)

[www.mattderody.com image 337x185]


That looks just ludicrous.
 
2014-03-27 04:58:09 PM  

whidbey: So they used a kitchen knife to open a farking package? Jesus fark.


Try using her sewing scissors to cut poster-board and see what happens.
 
2014-03-27 05:18:03 PM  
Late to the party, but as a resident of NY state I think it's moronic that we outlaw "gravity knives," which essentially means any knife that can be opened one-handed.  That's not even taking into account the liberties that NYPD may take when testing if a pocket knife is openable.

But then, we also ban the possession of nunchuks.  Not use, not carrying, but simply having a pair of nunchuks in your basement.  It's a freaking pair of sticks connected by rope.  Not only can you simply make one, you can probably keep it disassembled and put it together faster than a pistol owner can retrieve a pistol from a gun safe.
 
2014-03-27 05:25:10 PM  

whidbey: Serpentile6: dr_blasto: vudukungfu: dr_blasto: skyotter: Galloping Galoshes: dittybopper: Now *THIS* is probably what you mean by 'derpy', but there is a serious effort in OGB to make "anti-stab" knives like this:

A knife without a point is a broken knife.

[static.katomcdn.com image 400x193][www.paulsfinest.com image 405x164]

you'd hate my kitchen, then.

mine has a point.
[www.knifeforums.com image 850x218]

That farker would never leave my kitchen.

I caught my wife using it to open a box from Amazon once.

Ugh... I have caught friends and family doing that more times than I am comfortable admitting. Very quick way for me to freak out. Or even worse when I have some one over for dinner and they try to help by putting one of my henkels through the dishwasher.

/ sorry mostly off topic but needed to rant

I don't think you even have a clue as to how petty you sound. So they used a kitchen knife to open a farking package? Jesus fark.


Petty? I'm going to chalk that up to ignorance since there isn't a context. I cook professionally for a living and depend on having my knives in pristine condition every time I step into the kitchen. Nothing dulls out an expensive knife faster than sawing through cardboard which makes it more dangerous to cut with. If my knives are dull I can easily make a mistake and injure myself which would not allow me to work. I do not think it is petty to be concerned about the tools that help me make my living.
 
2014-03-27 05:37:37 PM  

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: skyotter: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: I do not recall the title, but there was some gawdsawful fantasy movie a few decades ago, where the hero was carrying one of the most ridiculous swords I *ever* saw. Hilt and blade like a more or less normal broadsword / longsword, but with two addiitonal, nearly identical blades, running parallel to the center blade, off of the hilt. The thing looked kinda like the Gillette Mach 3 razor of the Gods.

The Sword and the Sorcerer (1982)

[www.mattderody.com image 337x185]

That looks just ludicrous.


if you think the still image is bad...you should really take a rip off a bong and try and watch the movie. its...just awful...so awful.
 
2014-03-27 05:43:26 PM  
The NRA had Charlton Heston. What's Paul Hogan up to these days?
 
2014-03-27 05:46:55 PM  

BMFPitt: The NRA had Charlton Heston. What's Paul Hogan up to these days?


www.racialicious.com
 
2014-03-27 05:51:05 PM  
WHY IS THERE NO TREBUCHET LOBBY?

I WANT THE RIGHT TO OWN AND USE TREBUCHETS.
 
2014-03-27 06:04:23 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: My rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness supersede your right to bear arms. If there's no life, then there's no liberty, and if there's no liberty, then there's no pursuit of happiness.


So what are you going to do when a really big guy starts beating you with his fists?
 
2014-03-27 06:04:26 PM  

Serpentile6: whidbey: Serpentile6: dr_blasto: vudukungfu: dr_blasto: skyotter: Galloping Galoshes: dittybopper: Now *THIS* is probably what you mean by 'derpy', but there is a serious effort in OGB to make "anti-stab" knives like this:

A knife without a point is a broken knife.

[static.katomcdn.com image 400x193][www.paulsfinest.com image 405x164]

you'd hate my kitchen, then.

mine has a point.
[www.knifeforums.com image 850x218]

That farker would never leave my kitchen.

I caught my wife using it to open a box from Amazon once.

Ugh... I have caught friends and family doing that more times than I am comfortable admitting. Very quick way for me to freak out. Or even worse when I have some one over for dinner and they try to help by putting one of my henkels through the dishwasher.

/ sorry mostly off topic but needed to rant

I don't think you even have a clue as to how petty you sound. So they used a kitchen knife to open a farking package? Jesus fark.

Petty? I'm going to chalk that up to ignorance since there isn't a context. I cook professionally for a living and depend on having my knives in pristine condition every time I step into the kitchen. Nothing dulls out an expensive knife faster than sawing through cardboard which makes it more dangerous to cut with. If my knives are dull I can easily make a mistake and injure myself which would not allow me to work. I do not think it is petty to be concerned about the tools that help me make my living.


So you don't sharpen your knives on a regular basis? And what, do you work out of your house? What are your job knives doing in your kitchen?

It still makes you sound kind of controlling. Just saying.
 
2014-03-27 06:05:36 PM  

vudukungfu: Blade laws are asinine.
Telemachus residents are massholes by default for outlawing blades.

People who are afraid of blades should take a martial arts class or twothousand.

People who are Americans and are afraid are assholes, too.


In my state daggers are illegal. I'm not even sure what qualifies as a dagger.
 
2014-03-27 06:14:02 PM  
For the "anything can be used as a weapon, so regulate everything" idiots:

Need to drive a nail into a board - Hammer or gun?
Need to drill a hole for a screw - Drill or gun?
Playing baseball, up at bat - Baseball bat or gun?
Transporting a fluid - Glass bottle or gun?
Need to kill a fly - Swatter or gun?
Need to cut food - Knife or gun?
Need to propel a high-energy slug of metal through an object with a non-constructive (=destructive) result?  Gun.  That's it's only purpose, and that is no purpose.  Now shut up.
 
2014-03-27 06:16:05 PM  

Serpentile6: dr_blasto: vudukungfu: dr_blasto: skyotter: Galloping Galoshes: dittybopper: Now *THIS* is probably what you mean by 'derpy', but there is a serious effort in OGB to make "anti-stab" knives like this:

A knife without a point is a broken knife.

[static.katomcdn.com image 400x193][www.paulsfinest.com image 405x164]

you'd hate my kitchen, then.

mine has a point.
[www.knifeforums.com image 850x218]

That farker would never leave my kitchen.

I caught my wife using it to open a box from Amazon once.

Ugh... I have caught friends and family doing that more times than I am comfortable admitting. Very quick way for me to freak out. Or even worse when I have some one over for dinner and they try to help by putting one of my henkels through the dishwasher.

/ sorry mostly off topic but needed to rant


Oh, good god, the goddamn dishwashers. I'm a knife guy. Mostly they're kitchen-type knives; I really like Japanese carbon steel blades. I have this handmade Misono carbon steel slicing knife, dragon engraving, the works.

It was run through the dishwasher and the results were horrible.


The wood survived, but the blade got stained to hell. I was really upset. shiat, I'm still upset and that was years ago. Gah.
 
2014-03-27 06:22:50 PM  

whidbey: Serpentile6: dr_blasto: vudukungfu: dr_blasto: skyotter: Galloping Galoshes: dittybopper: Now *THIS* is probably what you mean by 'derpy', but there is a serious effort in OGB to make "anti-stab" knives like this:

A knife without a point is a broken knife.

[static.katomcdn.com image 400x193][www.paulsfinest.com image 405x164]

you'd hate my kitchen, then.

mine has a point.
[www.knifeforums.com image 850x218]

That farker would never leave my kitchen.

I caught my wife using it to open a box from Amazon once.

Ugh... I have caught friends and family doing that more times than I am comfortable admitting. Very quick way for me to freak out. Or even worse when I have some one over for dinner and they try to help by putting one of my henkels through the dishwasher.

/ sorry mostly off topic but needed to rant

I don't think you even have a clue as to how petty you sound. So they used a kitchen knife to open a farking package? Jesus fark.


Ah, kitchen knives can be really expensive. Serious business, there. As in my case, that Hattori knife has a single bevel and that kind of edge won't survive hitting anything hard, like the insides of a package. It's designed to slice sublimely through vegetables like they don't exist, not the hard stuff.

Dulling, chipping and breakage are frequently caused by the improper use and given the expense, there's no reason to reach for a nice damascus blade instead of a goddamn letter opener and a dull knife in the kitchen is really dangerous.

Imagine using a hammer to change channels on your TV. It just isn't the right tool for the job.
 
2014-03-27 06:41:56 PM  

Githerax: For the "anything can be used as a weapon, so regulate everything" idiots:

Need to drive a nail into a board - Hammer or gun?
Need to drill a hole for a screw - Drill or gun?
Playing baseball, up at bat - Baseball bat or gun?
Transporting a fluid - Glass bottle or gun?
Need to kill a fly - Swatter or gun?
Need to cut food - Knife or gun?
Need to propel a high-energy slug of metal through an object with a non-constructive (=destructive) result?  Gun.  That's it's only purpose, and that is no purpose.  Now shut up.


Funny.  It was about a year ago everyone was hollering that guns were no more dangerous than hammers, baseball bats, and knives.

Now knives are so much less dangerous than guns its ridiculous that we regulate them.
 
2014-03-27 06:49:45 PM  
Why am I not surprised that our resident Fark pansies are even terrified of one of our oldest tools?  Christ, the only knife that should stay banned are Italian stiletto switchblades.  The horrors of the '50s and its youth gangs engaging in interpretive dance on our streets leaves no doubt about this.
 
2014-03-27 06:50:15 PM  

dr_blasto: Serpentile6: dr_blasto: vudukungfu: dr_blasto: skyotter: Galloping Galoshes: dittybopper: Now *THIS* is probably what you mean by 'derpy', but there is a serious effort in OGB to make "anti-stab" knives like this:

A knife without a point is a broken knife.

[static.katomcdn.com image 400x193][www.paulsfinest.com image 405x164]

you'd hate my kitchen, then.

mine has a point.
[www.knifeforums.com image 850x218]

That farker would never leave my kitchen.

I caught my wife using it to open a box from Amazon once.

Ugh... I have caught friends and family doing that more times than I am comfortable admitting. Very quick way for me to freak out. Or even worse when I have some one over for dinner and they try to help by putting one of my henkels through the dishwasher.

/ sorry mostly off topic but needed to rant

Oh, good god, the goddamn dishwashers. I'm a knife guy. Mostly they're kitchen-type knives; I really like Japanese carbon steel blades. I have this handmade Misono carbon steel slicing knife, dragon engraving, the works.

It was run through the dishwasher and the results were horrible.

The wood survived, but the blade got stained to hell. I was really upset. shiat, I'm still upset and that was years ago. Gah.


I keep my carbon steel chinese cleaver in a box, in a cabinet, on a shelf my wife can't reach.  It comes down for cooking, and then I immediately hand wash and dry and back in the box it goes.

It's just too expensive to allow anyone to use.  Most people don't shell out for a knife, so they don't really have any conception about appropriate risk.  You could ruin the knife by cutting down hard on a ceramic plate.  You don't do things like leave a Faberge egg on your breakfast table, or carry a cocked, loaded gun at eye level at all times.   It's just too easy to let something go wrong.
 
2014-03-27 06:59:09 PM  

Esc7: dr_blasto: Serpentile6: dr_blasto: vudukungfu: dr_blasto: skyotter: Galloping Galoshes: dittybopper: Now *THIS* is probably what you mean by 'derpy', but there is a serious effort in OGB to make "anti-stab" knives like this:

A knife without a point is a broken knife.

[static.katomcdn.com image 400x193][www.paulsfinest.com image 405x164]

you'd hate my kitchen, then.

mine has a point.
[www.knifeforums.com image 850x218]

That farker would never leave my kitchen.

I caught my wife using it to open a box from Amazon once.

Ugh... I have caught friends and family doing that more times than I am comfortable admitting. Very quick way for me to freak out. Or even worse when I have some one over for dinner and they try to help by putting one of my henkels through the dishwasher.

/ sorry mostly off topic but needed to rant

Oh, good god, the goddamn dishwashers. I'm a knife guy. Mostly they're kitchen-type knives; I really like Japanese carbon steel blades. I have this handmade Misono carbon steel slicing knife, dragon engraving, the works.

It was run through the dishwasher and the results were horrible.

The wood survived, but the blade got stained to hell. I was really upset. shiat, I'm still upset and that was years ago. Gah.

I keep my carbon steel chinese cleaver in a box, in a cabinet, on a shelf my wife can't reach.  It comes down for cooking, and then I immediately hand wash and dry and back in the box it goes.

It's just too expensive to allow anyone to use.  Most people don't shell out for a knife, so they don't really have any conception about appropriate risk.  You could ruin the knife by cutting down hard on a ceramic plate.  You don't do things like leave a Faberge egg on your breakfast table, or carry a cocked, loaded gun at eye level at all times.   It's just too easy to let something go wrong.


I should do that. She's always threatening the damn knives. I'd probably be best served by buying a separate cheapo Henkels set and letting her destroy those!

I've seen her do terrible things in the past, like cut a goddamn pizza on a metal pizza pan with a chef's knife. I've seen other people do the same shiat. Gah.
 
2014-03-27 07:58:15 PM  
Can any conservative answer me: what is it like to go through life being afraid of everything and having to come up with all sorts of justifications why you aren't gutless cowards?

"I need a weapon because everything is SCAREY!  But I'm a real man cuz I got a gun."
 
2014-03-27 08:08:23 PM  

rosebud_the_sled: Can any conservative answer me: what is it like to go through life being afraid of everything and having to come up with all sorts of justifications why you aren't gutless cowards?

"I need a weapon because everything is SCAREY!  But I'm a real man cuz I got a gun."


Maybe some of us venture out a little farther than the corner little caesar's and like the option to prepare accordingly. Thankfully I have a natural right to defend myself from a grizzly bear so your ineffective mewing doesn't change a thing.
 
2014-03-27 08:11:29 PM  

whidbey: Serpentile6: whidbey: Serpentile6: dr_blasto: vudukungfu: dr_blasto: skyotter: Galloping Galoshes: dittybopper: Now *THIS* is probably what you mean by 'derpy', but there is a serious effort in OGB to make "anti-stab" knives like this:

A knife without a point is a broken knife.

[static.katomcdn.com image 400x193][www.paulsfinest.com image 405x164]

you'd hate my kitchen, then.

mine has a point.
[www.knifeforums.com image 850x218]

That farker would never leave my kitchen.

I caught my wife using it to open a box from Amazon once.

Ugh... I have caught friends and family doing that more times than I am comfortable admitting. Very quick way for me to freak out. Or even worse when I have some one over for dinner and they try to help by putting one of my henkels through the dishwasher.

/ sorry mostly off topic but needed to rant

I don't think you even have a clue as to how petty you sound. So they used a kitchen knife to open a farking package? Jesus fark.

Petty? I'm going to chalk that up to ignorance since there isn't a context. I cook professionally for a living and depend on having my knives in pristine condition every time I step into the kitchen. Nothing dulls out an expensive knife faster than sawing through cardboard which makes it more dangerous to cut with. If my knives are dull I can easily make a mistake and injure myself which would not allow me to work. I do not think it is petty to be concerned about the tools that help me make my living.

So you don't sharpen your knives on a regular basis? And what, do you work out of your house? What are your job knives doing in your kitchen?

It still makes you sound kind of controlling. Just saying.


My knives I keep in my knife roll which goes to and from work with me so that yes I can maintain them, which I do on a regular basis. If I can avoid going through a very tedious process of sharpening them with different grades of wet stones twice instead of once I most definitely do.

Controlling? Perhaps. But when it is something quite important to me that I depend on I do not want to see them misused or harmed.
 
2014-03-27 09:06:36 PM  
Wow, so many anti-gun nuts I've favorited in yellow showing up whining in a knife thread. Imagine that.
 
2014-03-27 09:25:26 PM  

Rapmaster2000: YES!  It's about time us freedom-loving knife enthusiasts finally have a way to keep the knife nabbers from getting their greasy paws on our Constitutionally protected right to defend ourselves with knives.

Just remember, the only defense from a bad guy with a knife is a good guy with a knife.  That's why I spend several hours a week down at the dagger range working on my knifesmanship.  I treat knifery as both a hobby and a lifestyle.   That's why I always carry a kirpan, a corvo, and a concealed cleaver at ALL TIMES.

Check out this sweet baby I picked up at the Tri-County Knife Show:
[www.cartertown.com image 800x599]
I bet the knife nabbers are terrified of my SCARY knife.


You paid $1250 for that useless piece of crap?

You deserve each other.
 
2014-03-27 10:33:36 PM  
Whats truly depressing about the situation is that we need a dozen rights groups just to protect ourselves from every dumbass politicians who pretends he's doing the lords work by banning something.
We should add a stipulation to any ban that, if it doesn't live up to the proposers claims within five years, they should be caned in public and prevented from ever holding public office again.

We should be drilling those dumbasses out of government. Not coddling up to their opponents simply because they oppose blind stupidity with even more blind stupidity.
 
2014-03-27 10:34:39 PM  

skyotter: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: I do not recall the title, but there was some gawdsawful fantasy movie a few decades ago, where the hero was carrying one of the most ridiculous swords I *ever* saw. Hilt and blade like a more or less normal broadsword / longsword, but with two addiitonal, nearly identical blades, running parallel to the center blade, off of the hilt. The thing looked kinda like the Gillette Mach 3 razor of the Gods.

The Sword and the Sorcerer (1982)

[www.mattderody.com image 337x185]


I loved that movie when I was 11. IIRC the side blades could be shot at things.
 
2014-03-27 10:55:34 PM  

Doom MD: rosebud_the_sled: Can any conservative answer me: what is it like to go through life being afraid of everything and having to come up with all sorts of justifications why you aren't gutless cowards?

"I need a weapon because everything is SCAREY!  But I'm a real man cuz I got a gun."

Maybe some of us venture out a little farther than the corner little caesar's and like the option to prepare accordingly. Thankfully I have a natural right to defend myself from a grizzly bear so your ineffective mewing doesn't change a thing.


Or...we just like knives. Sheesh. You antis sicken me.
 
2014-03-27 11:40:23 PM  

TheMysticS: +1, boo, hiss


Jokes!  You get them!  I think you are the only one!  Let's form a club and invent a handshake!

haha!  Thanks!  I deserve and relish every boo and hiss.
 
2014-03-28 12:10:25 AM  

way south: Whats truly depressing about the situation is that we need a dozen rights groups just to protect ourselves from every dumbass politicians who pretends he's doing the lords work by banning something.
We should add a stipulation to any ban that, if it doesn't live up to the proposers claims within five years, they should be caned in public and prevented from ever holding public office again.

We should be drilling those dumbasses out of government. Not coddling up to their opponents simply because they oppose blind stupidity with even more blind stupidity.


Newsletter, etc.
 
2014-03-28 01:40:31 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Rapmaster2000: YES!  It's about time us freedom-loving knife enthusiasts finally have a way to keep the knife nabbers from getting their greasy paws on our Constitutionally protected right to defend ourselves with knives.

Just remember, the only defense from a bad guy with a knife is a good guy with a knife.  That's why I spend several hours a week down at the dagger range working on my knifesmanship.  I treat knifery as both a hobby and a lifestyle.   That's why I always carry a kirpan, a corvo, and a concealed cleaver at ALL TIMES.

Check out this sweet baby I picked up at the Tri-County Knife Show:
[www.cartertown.com image 800x599]
I bet the knife nabbers are terrified of my SCARY knife.

You paid $1250 for that useless piece of crap?

You deserve each other.


I'm pretty sure the guy was joking.

I mean, who'd really pay $1250 for that axe/knife/knuckleduster hybrid? I bet it can't do anything well.
 
2014-03-28 02:21:57 AM  

dr_blasto: skyotter: Galloping Galoshes: dittybopper: Now *THIS* is probably what you mean by 'derpy', but there is a serious effort in OGB to make "anti-stab" knives like this:

A knife without a point is a broken knife.

[static.katomcdn.com image 400x193][www.paulsfinest.com image 405x164]

you'd hate my kitchen, then.

mine has a point.
[www.knifeforums.com image 850x218]


Is there a benefit to a damascus blade, or is it just cause it's shiny? Cause I love to look, but don't cook enough to justify having pretty tools.
 
2014-03-28 03:58:14 AM  

GodComplex: dr_blasto: skyotter: Galloping Galoshes: dittybopper: Now *THIS* is probably what you mean by 'derpy', but there is a serious effort in OGB to make "anti-stab" knives like this:

A knife without a point is a broken knife.

[static.katomcdn.com image 400x193][www.paulsfinest.com image 405x164]

you'd hate my kitchen, then.

mine has a point.
[www.knifeforums.com image 850x218]

Is there a benefit to a damascus blade, or is it just cause it's shiny? Cause I love to look, but don't cook enough to justify having pretty tools.


Damascus is made with different types of steel that end up at different hardness levels and thus wear at different rates. The lighter colored layers typically have higher chromium and/or nickel content and will be harder than the more carbon based steels in the dark layers.  Therefore you get micro-serrations that pop up as you use the knife, keeping it sharper longer. People tend to over-etch demascus and that's not a good thing. If you can feel the ridges between the different steel layers, somebody has left it in the ferric chloride way too long and what you have is a pretty paperweight, not a knife. You can get plenty of the desired cosmetic effect without letting the steel sit in acid for several hours.

A high quality custom Damascus knife will have all of the pretty layers, but will retain the integrity of the original billet of Damascus steel and will be smooth to the touch. Bob Kraemer's work is the gold standard for kitchen knives.
 
2014-03-28 04:14:47 AM  
The right to bear arms clearly should cover this.  Guns are not the only arms.  Originally when people talked arms, they talked melee weapons (although I suppose bows count too).

I'm all about allowing people to own - and bring with them (concealed or otherwise) in public - blades of any length.  Obviously private businesses could and likely would have other policies concerning this... as is their right.

Sorry gun fanatics, but swords are just plain cooler than guns will ever be.  Melee weapons are a real man's weapon.  A 7 year old girl can use a gun to kill a 250lb wall of muscle.  They say guns are "the great equalizer" but that just happens to sound nicer than "weapon for the weak."  The use of melee weapons requires far more physical capacity and skill than guns.

But when you talk about the pinnacle of skill where guns are concerned - snipping - you are talking about the most cowardly use of arms ever.  You are hiding and shooting at people who may not even know they are in a fight at all.  Nothing manly about that at all.  I support people's right to own guns, but I have no illusions about what they are or why many people "NEED" to own them.

As I say that don't get confused about my love of blades.  I'm the type who is scared to leave the house absent arms, but I just think such things are really cool and see little if any reason to ban them outside of irrational fear(that includes guns, blades, and some others).  As far as protection in the modern world goes though, a small-ish concealed blade is probably a lot more useful than a gun.  Most your robberies, rapes, etc are done by morons who don't know the proper use of a gun.

These morons think the best use of a projectile weapon is to put it directly in your face.  A trained knife fighter would have clear advantage here.  Putting a gun directly in someone's face(or otherwise very near them) is massively stupid.  Even absent a weapon, a person like me could ruin their day very fast.

Just so we are clear in case any of you Farkers are intending to rob someone - guns actually can shoot from a distance.  They also take time to pull the trigger - not much mind you but some + your reaction time.  Reaction is also behind the actions of the initiator.  A person with a knife (or simply fighting unarmed) has a very short range.  If you engage someone from a distance, you have a clear advantage.  You can hurt them but they cannot hurt you.

Get in someone's face with your projectile weapon, and you loose that advantage (which is the whole POINT of using a gun over a melee weapon).  You are also thus putting yourself at risk.  Also your gun can only shoot someone if the point is aimed at them.  This factor is VERY easy for your opponent to change at close range.  That means I don't have to stop you from firing.  I will very quickly change the trajectory of your barrel, then instantly move in very close (too close for you to use the gun) and before you know what just happened... I will kill you (probably by breaking your neck).  Screw that whole wrestling a gun away nonsense.  It is much easier and safer for me to take your gun from your cold, dead hands.
 
2014-03-28 04:27:24 AM  

bk3k: As I say that don't get confused about my love of blades. I'm NOT the type who is scared to leave the house absent arms, but I just think such things are really cool


Dammit I missed an important word and made myself look sort of dumb.  LOL.
 
2014-03-28 07:11:34 AM  

Pesky_Humans: GodComplex: dr_blasto: skyotter: Galloping Galoshes: dittybopper: Now *THIS* is probably what you mean by 'derpy', but there is a serious effort in OGB to make "anti-stab" knives like this:

A knife without a point is a broken knife.

[static.katomcdn.com image 400x193][www.paulsfinest.com image 405x164]

you'd hate my kitchen, then.

mine has a point.
[www.knifeforums.com image 850x218]

Is there a benefit to a damascus blade, or is it just cause it's shiny? Cause I love to look, but don't cook enough to justify having pretty tools.

Damascus is made with different types of steel that end up at different hardness levels and thus wear at different rates. The lighter colored layers typically have higher chromium and/or nickel content and will be harder than the more carbon based steels in the dark layers.  Therefore you get micro-serrations that pop up as you use the knife, keeping it sharper longer. People tend to over-etch demascus and that's not a good thing. If you can feel the ridges between the different steel layers, somebody has left it in the ferric chloride way too long and what you have is a pretty paperweight, not a knife. You can get plenty of the desired cosmetic effect without letting the steel sit in acid for several hours.

A high quality custom Damascus knife will have all of the pretty layers, but will retain the integrity of the original billet of Damascus steel and will be smooth to the touch. Bob Kraemer's work is the gold standard for kitchen knives.


First time I've ever heard of a chormium alloy steel being used in damascus as they are softer and will gum up your whetstone. Unless you're talking like <1% chrome, but even things like W2 won't hold an edge like high carbon steel.

I was always under the impression than chromium alloys were a sin for high quality tools as they couldn't be hardened as well.
 
2014-03-28 07:17:59 AM  
As I understand it, it can make a great deal of sense to have weapons for hunting, defense, or even practice.  The people I know who collect the cool-looking murder weapon style items, however, are a different group entirely.  In the end, the weapon doesn't do the things they want it to do.  It doesn't make them bad-ass.  It doesn't really keep the things they're afraid of at bay.  It doesn't get them respect.   The only people who might validate them are other people doing the same thing.  It's a bit of a circle-jerk, really.
 
2014-03-28 09:45:09 AM  

Dracolich: As I understand it, it can make a great deal of sense to have weapons for hunting, defense, or even practice.  The people I know who collect the cool-looking murder weapon style items, however, are a different group entirely.  In the end, the weapon doesn't do the things they want it to do.  It doesn't make them bad-ass.  It doesn't really keep the things they're afraid of at bay.  It doesn't get them respect.   The only people who might validate them are other people doing the same thing.  It's a bit of a circle-jerk, really.


Prove I'm never going to being able to wield my sword against frost giants during Ragnarok.
 
2014-03-28 10:21:34 AM  

GodComplex: dr_blasto: skyotter: Galloping Galoshes: dittybopper: Now *THIS* is probably what you mean by 'derpy', but there is a serious effort in OGB to make "anti-stab" knives like this:

A knife without a point is a broken knife.

[static.katomcdn.com image 400x193][www.paulsfinest.com image 405x164]

you'd hate my kitchen, then.

mine has a point.
[www.knifeforums.com image 850x218]

Is there a benefit to a damascus blade, or is it just cause it's shiny? Cause I love to look, but don't cook enough to justify having pretty tools.


The nice thing about nice tools like these is that if you buy them once, they will still be nice tools when your kids pass them on to your grandkids. Really, they're cheaper in the long run than the $40 Chicago Cutlery set at Target.

As far as knives go, making fine steel is an art form that's just as old as any other.
 
2014-03-28 11:10:38 AM  

Serpentile6: whidbey: Serpentile6: whidbey: Serpentile6: dr_blasto: vudukungfu: dr_blasto: skyotter: Galloping Galoshes: dittybopper: Now *THIS* is probably what you mean by 'derpy', but there is a serious effort in OGB to make "anti-stab" knives like this:

A knife without a point is a broken knife.

[static.katomcdn.com image 400x193][www.paulsfinest.com image 405x164]

you'd hate my kitchen, then.

mine has a point.
[www.knifeforums.com image 850x218]

That farker would never leave my kitchen.

I caught my wife using it to open a box from Amazon once.

Ugh... I have caught friends and family doing that more times than I am comfortable admitting. Very quick way for me to freak out. Or even worse when I have some one over for dinner and they try to help by putting one of my henkels through the dishwasher.

/ sorry mostly off topic but needed to rant

I don't think you even have a clue as to how petty you sound. So they used a kitchen knife to open a farking package? Jesus fark.

Petty? I'm going to chalk that up to ignorance since there isn't a context. I cook professionally for a living and depend on having my knives in pristine condition every time I step into the kitchen. Nothing dulls out an expensive knife faster than sawing through cardboard which makes it more dangerous to cut with. If my knives are dull I can easily make a mistake and injure myself which would not allow me to work. I do not think it is petty to be concerned about the tools that help me make my living.

So you don't sharpen your knives on a regular basis? And what, do you work out of your house? What are your job knives doing in your kitchen?

It still makes you sound kind of controlling. Just saying.

My knives I keep in my knife roll which goes to and from work with me so that yes I can maintain them, which I do on a regular basis. If I can avoid going through a very tedious process of sharpening them with different grades of wet stones twice instead of once I most definitely do.

Controlling? Perhaps ...


Dude. Get over it and use what the mexicans in your kitchen do your job better with:


www.webstaurantstore.com
$20 bucks. Does the exact same job a $140 knife does and you don't even have to get analpained about it if another hu-man breathes in its general direction.
 
2014-03-28 11:35:07 AM  

whidbey: . So they used a kitchen knife to open a farking package? Jesus fark.


What if you were a surgeon, and someone used your scalpels for that?
Same diff. Except Chefs use theirs more often.
I have specialty knives I've collected over the years for various cooking tasks.
I have one just for splitting chickens, and one just for splitting ducks.

/Don't have one for splitting hares, yet.
 
2014-03-28 11:43:41 AM  
willfullyobscure:
Dude. Get over it and use what the mexicans in your kitchen do your job better with:
$20 bucks. Does the exact same job a $140 knife does and you don't even have to get analpained about it if another hu-man breathes in its general direction.


First...  the hispanics "in" said kitchen are just as likely to be Guatemalan , Salvadoran, etc...bigot.

Second...don't tell Chefs what tools can do a better job, or how to care for their tools, as you don't know what you are talking about.

You don't tell someone who depends on their tools to make a living that they are "controlling bastards" for wanting those tools care for.
If your income depends on your car to function, you are justified in being a "control freak" about its care and maintenance....same with knives for chefs.  "Hey Mister professional sports photographer...you don't need that $5000 telephoto lens...you can just use the camera on your cel phone....same diff right?"  WRONG.

"Hey Mister Policeman... you don't need that expensive Glock pistol...this $100 gun with a handle wrapped in electrical tape shoots bullets also...and is much cheaper"

thats how dumb the argument you are making sounds.
 
2014-03-28 11:48:29 AM  

dr_blasto: GodComplex: dr_blasto: skyotter: Galloping Galoshes: dittybopper: Now *THIS* is probably what you mean by 'derpy', but there is a serious effort in OGB to make "anti-stab" knives like this:

A knife without a point is a broken knife.

[static.katomcdn.com image 400x193][www.paulsfinest.com image 405x164]

you'd hate my kitchen, then.

mine has a point.
[www.knifeforums.com image 850x218]

Is there a benefit to a damascus blade, or is it just cause it's shiny? Cause I love to look, but don't cook enough to justify having pretty tools.

The nice thing about nice tools like these is that if you buy them once, they will still be nice tools when your kids pass them on to your grandkids. Really, they're cheaper in the long run than the $40 Chicago Cutlery set at Target.

As far as knives go, making fine steel is an art form that's just as old as any other.


Indeed. That's why I plan on making a set of O2 tool steel kitchen knives at some point in the near future (like when I have money). Cause why not? Just curious if the damascus was superior in some functional way.
 
2014-03-28 12:11:32 PM  

GodComplex: dr_blasto: GodComplex: dr_blasto: skyotter: Galloping Galoshes: dittybopper: Now *THIS* is probably what you mean by 'derpy', but there is a serious effort in OGB to make "anti-stab" knives like this:

A knife without a point is a broken knife.

[static.katomcdn.com image 400x193][www.paulsfinest.com image 405x164]

you'd hate my kitchen, then.

mine has a point.
[www.knifeforums.com image 850x218]

Is there a benefit to a damascus blade, or is it just cause it's shiny? Cause I love to look, but don't cook enough to justify having pretty tools.

The nice thing about nice tools like these is that if you buy them once, they will still be nice tools when your kids pass them on to your grandkids. Really, they're cheaper in the long run than the $40 Chicago Cutlery set at Target.

As far as knives go, making fine steel is an art form that's just as old as any other.

Indeed. That's why I plan on making a set of O2 tool steel kitchen knives at some point in the near future (like when I have money). Cause why not? Just curious if the damascus was superior in some functional way.


No, damascus steel isn't better, just a little different. Each alloy is going to have its own properties. I still prefer the carbon steels over stainless for creating a good edge, though they require more frequent sharpening than some of the harder stainless.
 
2014-03-28 12:23:14 PM  

Stratohead: willfullyobscure:
Dude. Get over it and use what the mexicans in your kitchen do your job better with:
$20 bucks. Does the exact same job a $140 knife does and you don't even have to get analpained about it if another hu-man breathes in its general direction.


First...  the hispanics "in" said kitchen are just as likely to be Guatemalan , Salvadoran, etc...bigot.



Fine. "Brown people that work harder than you for less money" how's that?

Second...don't tell Chefs what tools can do a better job, or how to care for their tools, as you don't know what you are talking about.

I do when they literally know nothing about the relative value of their tools.

You don't tell someone who depends on their tools to make a living that they are "controlling bastards" for wanting those tools care for.
If your income depends on your car to function, you are justified in being a "control freak" about its care and maintenance....same with knives for chefs.  "Hey Mister professional sports photographer...you don't need that $5000 telephoto lens...you can just use the camera on your cel phone....same diff right?"  WRONG.

"Hey Mister Policeman... you don't need that expensive Glock pistol...this $100 gun with a handle wrapped in electrical tape shoots bullets also...and is much cheaper"


except a telephoto lens and a semi automatic pistol are functionally different from an embedded camera or a zip gun.


There is no functional difference between a Victo chefs knife from the supply store and a $150 "damascus" Shun. they do the same thing the same way with some minor technical variations like handle shape and hardness of the blade and all boil down to user preference and marketing bullshiat.

thats how dumb the argument you are making sounds.


You spend your money any way you want, but you are essentially saying a goldplated powerdrill with silver lace designs on it works better than a non-gold plated powerdrill.
 
2014-03-28 02:46:29 PM  

John Buck 41: Wow, so many anti-gun nuts I've favorited in yellow showing up whining in a knife thread. Imagine that.


Wow what a totally convincing argument.

anti-gun nuts

translation=anyone who understands the need for regulation for weapons in a modern-day society.
 
2014-03-28 03:17:22 PM  

whidbey: dittybopper: whidbey: I really don't see the issue with this. Nor do I see how anyone's rights are being infringed.

Even Mother Jones thinks there may well be a case for knife rights to be made.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/knife-rights-second-amen dm ent

I didn't see anything in the article other than information on Ritter.

Nor did your article back up any contention that the right to bear arms is being infringed.


You missed these statements?

Sure enough, in 2009, Congress updated the Federal Switchblade Act of 1958, which had outlawed the importation and interstate trade of spring-loaded "automatic" knives amid a panic about youthful hoodlums based on the fictional violence in West Side Story and movies such as Rebel Without a Cause and The Wild One.

Still, knives remain regulated by a complicated, contradictory patchwork of state and local laws.


It's hard to determine whether New York-style anti-knife laws actually make the streets safer.

Those statements, along with the fact that there are zero statements directly about the issue (just indirect quotes) that are against people carrying knives, is about as close of a ringing endorsement of carrying as you will get from Mother Jones.

And I'd like to emphasize that the article isn't "balanced":  There aren't any direct quotes in opposition to Ritter's position.  It's blatantly biased in favor of knife rights.  And it's in Mother Jones.
 
2014-03-28 03:41:16 PM  

dittybopper: Those statements, along with the fact that there are zero statements directly about the issue (just indirect quotes) that are against people carrying knives, is about as close of a ringing endorsement of carrying as you will get from Mother Jones.


What, am I supposed to stand up straight and go lockstep now because you linked an article almost exactly identical to tfa?

You are not being denied the right to bear arms. I've already pointed out that the TSA restrictions are bullshiat.

I mean, you're not going to get unlimited unrestricted access to weapons. Not in a modern-day society. Despite that, the Supreme Court still rules in your favor.

Yes I know you're not going to get over it.
 
2014-03-28 04:13:53 PM  

whidbey: dittybopper: Those statements, along with the fact that there are zero statements directly about the issue (just indirect quotes) that are against people carrying knives, is about as close of a ringing endorsement of carrying as you will get from Mother Jones.

What, am I supposed to stand up straight and go lockstep now because you linked an article almost exactly identical to tfa?

You are not being denied the right to bear arms. I've already pointed out that the TSA restrictions are bullshiat.

I mean, you're not going to get unlimited unrestricted access to weapons. Not in a modern-day society. Despite that, the Supreme Court still rules in your favor.

Yes I know you're not going to get over it.


You sound like a sad panda because you are losing.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2013/12/11/how-gun-co nt rol-is-losing-badly-in-charts/

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2014/01/08/why-gun-controllers-lose-ground- af ter-mass-shootings/

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2013/09/28/gun-control-advoca te s-lose-ground-despite-recent-rampages/2O5WbbwU0jdksCEqCqA5sJ/story.htm l

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/democrats-lose-jobs-over-gun-control

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/20/gun-control-polls-aurora-sh oo ting_n_1690169.html


You know, I've been involved in this fight since, well, based upon your photograph, since you were in diapers.

And 25 years ago, I never would have imagined that we'd have *TWO* Supreme Court decisions directly saying it's an individual right not connected to a militia, and that out-right bans like those long-standing ones in Washington DC and Chicago, IL were flat-out unconstitutional under any standard.

Twenty-five years ago, you couldn't get a carry permit in most states, *PERIOD*.  Today, all states issue them, and the majority are "Shall-Issue".  Just recently, California and Hawaii moved into the "Shall-Issue" column, assuming Peruta doesn't get overturned.

Look, I know you are trying to be a "good liberal" here, but this isn't really a conservative/liberal fight.

Tell you what.  If and when you ever find yourself north of Albany, NY, let me know, and I'll take you shooting.  Ammo is on me.  All I ask is that you have an open mind.  Won't cost you anything, except maybe some silly ideas that you thought were right, but are in fact wrong.
 
2014-03-28 04:31:52 PM  

dittybopper: You know, I've been involved in this fight since, well, based upon your photograph, since you were in diapers


We're probably close to the same age, actually. I would imagine that worrying constantly about liburuls taking away your guns tends to age one prematurely. ;)

Tell you what. If and when you ever find yourself north of Albany, NY, let me know, and I'll take you shooting. Ammo is on me. All I ask is that you have an open mind. Won't cost you anything, except maybe some silly ideas that you thought were right, but are in fact wrong.

Dude, you sound like an all right guy. Not really into guns, though. But again, I'm not seeing how your right to bear arms is being infringed. Your own links negate any discussion about the topic.
 
2014-03-28 09:26:54 PM  

whidbey: John Buck 41: Wow, so many anti-gun nuts I've favorited in yellow showing up whining in a knife thread. Imagine that.

Wow what a totally convincing argument.


How's that an argument? It's merely an observation.
 
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