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(ThePostGame)   Peyton Manning comments on his contract with Broncos: "The salary is too damn high"   (thepostgame.com) divider line 40
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2014-03-27 12:26:54 PM  
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2014-03-27 01:24:18 PM  
As written by Manning's publicist
 
2014-03-27 01:32:15 PM  
"So? What did he think about the lowball offer?"
"He won't accept 19.4."
"Well OK, what does he want then?"
"You won't believe this. He wants less."
"Sh*t. So he's got a neck problem AND a brain injury?"
 
2014-03-27 01:32:46 PM  
It's kind of smart coming off an injury in which you missed a year, given that nfl contracts aren't garaunteed.

Oops sorry, narrative story.
 
2014-03-27 01:38:53 PM  
I'm just waiting for the day that both Brady and Manning decide they want a Suber Bowl win at all costs and sign for vet minimum.
 
2014-03-27 01:39:29 PM  

flak attack: I'm just waiting for the day that both Brady and Manning decide they want a Suber Bowl win at all costs and sign for vet minimum.


Or at the very least, a Super Bowl
 
2014-03-27 01:44:31 PM  

thecpt: It's kind of smart coming off an injury in which you missed a year, given that nfl contracts aren't garaunteed.

Oops sorry, narrative story.


There is guaranteed money in any large $ NFL contract.  You won't find a contract that's all guaranteed, but in many, much to most is guaranteed.  For example, in Drew Brees' $100 mil contract, $60 mil in the first three years is guaranteed.
 
2014-03-27 01:48:33 PM  

Galloping Galoshes: thecpt: It's kind of smart coming off an injury in which you missed a year, given that nfl contracts aren't garaunteed.

Oops sorry, narrative story.

There is guaranteed money in any large $ NFL contract.  You won't find a contract that's all guaranteed, but in many, much to most is guaranteed.  For example, in Drew Brees' $100 mil contract, $60 mil in the first three years is guaranteed.


Yeah I know, but again the article didn't talk about what was left on the table in that regard either.
 
2014-03-27 01:48:34 PM  
Still a choker.
 
2014-03-27 01:54:15 PM  
"Condon apologized and asked to speak with Manning's wife, who ultimately coaxed him into accepting the deal"

I'd fire the agent for doing that, and my wife knows when its time to back away from me on money issues (but certainly has input). I'm getting ready to take a 70% pay cut which will lead to me making much more with greatly better benefits after about 2 years (for pay). The benefits are better on day 1. She lobbied against it, but lost. Now she sees and understands the method to my madness.
 
2014-03-27 01:56:52 PM  

flak attack: I'm just waiting for the day that both Brady and Manning decide they want a Suber Bowl win at all costs and sign for vet minimum.


Who here is willing to accept a lower salary then the market will pay?  If the salary is too high to get enough talent to win a SuperbOwl, that's on the GM and owner, not the player.  They are paid to play QB at market rate, and both are great at it.*

*But, yeah,

Losac: Still a choker.


I'm starting to think this may be true.
 
2014-03-27 01:59:06 PM  

flak attack: flak attack: I'm just waiting for the day that both Brady and Manning decide they want a Suber Bowl win at all costs and sign for vet minimum.

Or at the very least, a Super Bowl


While I think they could/would accept a low contract, I don't think they can accept league minimum. The NFLPA would likely have a huge problem with it.
 
2014-03-27 02:10:12 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: flak attack: I'm just waiting for the day that both Brady and Manning decide they want a Suber Bowl win at all costs and sign for vet minimum.

Who here is willing to accept a lower salary then the market will pay?  If the salary is too high to get enough talent to win a SuperbOwl, that's on the GM and owner, not the player.  They are paid to play QB at market rate, and both are great at it.*

*But, yeah,

Losac: Still a choker.

I'm starting to think this may be true.


You realize the NFL has a salary cap, don't you?

Seattle could afford a lot more overall talent than Denver because of the vast difference in pay their respective quarterbacks get.
 
2014-03-27 02:13:43 PM  

PowerSlacker: AliceBToklasLives: flak attack: I'm just waiting for the day that both Brady and Manning decide they want a Suber Bowl win at all costs and sign for vet minimum.

Who here is willing to accept a lower salary then the market will pay?  If the salary is too high to get enough talent to win a SuperbOwl, that's on the GM and owner, not the player.  They are paid to play QB at market rate, and both are great at it.*

*But, yeah,

Losac: Still a choker.

I'm starting to think this may be true.

You realize the NFL has a salary cap, don't you?

Seattle could afford a lot more overall talent than Denver because of the vast difference in pay their respective quarterbacks get.


And that's an employee's problem how?
 
2014-03-27 02:32:25 PM  
At least HE knows he's not better than Brady.
 
2014-03-27 03:03:01 PM  
@aintnuttintofarkwith ( sorry, can't quote on phone) if you could pick any current or former NFL QB to start a team for the 2014-15 season, who are you taking? Caveat: You get them as a rookie. I want to take Rodgers, but who knows what he does without the Favre drama. It's gotta be P. Manning or Montana. Was Randall Cunningham the one who went to the CFL or was it Warren Moon? I would consider whichever one it was that was in the CFL as well.
 
2014-03-27 03:06:57 PM  

roc6783: @aintnuttintofarkwith ( sorry, can't quote on phone) if you could pick any current or former NFL QB to start a team for the 2014-15 season, who are you taking? Caveat: You get them as a rookie. I want to take Rodgers, but who knows what he does without the Favre drama. It's gotta be P. Manning or Montana. Was Randall Cunningham the one who went to the CFL or was it Warren Moon? I would consider whichever one it was that was in the CFL as well.


Brady.
 
2014-03-27 03:16:13 PM  
Any particular reason? I gotta think if he isn't completely underestimated, he doesn't do what he has done. Manning started at day one, and has never looked back. I think Rodgers is the best QB to ever play in the NFL, but if I need a rookie as my franchise starter this season, I think Pey Pey is the best option.
 
2014-03-27 03:36:17 PM  
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2014-03-27 04:02:14 PM  

roc6783: Any particular reason? I gotta think if he isn't completely underestimated, he doesn't do what he has done. Manning started at day one, and has never looked back. I think Rodgers is the best QB to ever play in the NFL, but if I need a rookie as my franchise starter this season, I think Pey Pey is the best option.


Pey Pey? Best as a rookie option?

I mean, it's all anecdotal, because teams really farking matter in football but Pey Pey didn't exactly cover himself in glory his rookie year.

/And Tom Tom rode an amazing D.
 
2014-03-27 04:14:14 PM  

roc6783: Any particular reason? I gotta think if he isn't completely underestimated, he doesn't do what he has done. Manning started at day one, and has never looked back. I think Rodgers is the best QB to ever play in the NFL, but if I need a rookie as my franchise starter this season, I think Pey Pey is the best option.


He would still be underestimated. You're underestimating him right now.
 
2014-03-27 04:19:20 PM  
Brady rode the pine his rookie year because no one expected what he became. I know what Peyton did over the course of his career being a starter from the first snap. Does Brady become Brady without being a nobody 6th rounder with no expectations? I would take my chances with the career arc I know.
 
2014-03-27 04:31:04 PM  
AliceBToklasLives:And that's an employee's problem how?

Because if they pay the QB too much then they can't afford to pay the linemen who keep his neck straight and jersey clean.

If they pay the QB too much then they can't afford to pay the RBs and WRs that make his job easier.

If they pay the QB too much then they can't afford to pay the defense who keeps him from having to score on every drive.

Get the point?  It's called a 'team' game for a reason.  Peyton gets that.
 
2014-03-27 04:43:38 PM  
Golly gee, what a swell story.  Just precious.
 
2014-03-27 04:57:13 PM  

msparl01: AliceBToklasLives:And that's an employee's problem how?

Because if they pay the QB too much then they can't afford to pay the linemen who keep his neck straight and jersey clean.

If they pay the QB too much then they can't afford to pay the RBs and WRs that make his job easier.

If they pay the QB too much then they can't afford to pay the defense who keeps him from having to score on every drive.

Get the point?  It's called a 'team' game for a reason.  Peyton gets that.


That's why he will be working for the league minimum next season, right?
 
2014-03-27 05:02:58 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: That's why he will be working for the league minimum next season, right?


Nope, NFLPA would have none of that.  It seems obvious to anyone thinking logically though that he just came off of serious neck surgery so there's no guarantee that he'll be around a long time.  Plus if he just brings his salary down to Tom Brady levels, he still gets paid quite handsomely and the team can afford to bring in talent around him.

This isn't that difficult to understand...what's your problem with the guy NOT being a prick?
 
2014-03-27 05:14:51 PM  

msparl01: This isn't that difficult to understand...what's your problem with the guy NOT being a prick?


It's not really good form to go and brag about how you wanted to take less money because you're so generous and wonderful and then you took more than that because your wife sold you out and then, well, you didn't have any choice but to take the extra $1.4 million.

Jesus, most publicists wouldn't even go so far as to write that damn "story". I've liked Manning for his whole career, but GTFOH with the idea that he's not all about making that cheddar.
 
2014-03-27 05:15:16 PM  

msparl01: AliceBToklasLives: That's why he will be working for the league minimum next season, right?

Nope, NFLPA would have none of that.  It seems obvious to anyone thinking logically though that he just came off of serious neck surgery so there's no guarantee that he'll be around a long time.  Plus if he just brings his salary down to Tom Brady levels, he still gets paid quite handsomely and the team can afford to bring in talent around him.

This isn't that difficult to understand...what's your problem with the guy NOT being a prick?


Oh I have no problem with what he did.  I just don't see why demanding his market value would make him a prick.
 
2014-03-27 05:17:15 PM  

roc6783: Any particular reason? I gotta think if he isn't completely underestimated, he doesn't do what he has done. Manning started at day one, and has never looked back. I think Rodgers is the best QB to ever play in the NFL, but if I need a rookie as my franchise starter this season, I think Pey Pey is the best option.


6 seasons as an NFL starter and he's the greatest ever?

Marino's numbers through 6 years as a starter are pretty much the exact same:

Name       Starts         Total Yards          TD              INT
Marino        85              23,856             196             103
Rodgers     87              23,868              187              51

Admittedly Marino's INTs are double Rodgers (as was his INT rate) but that was back when the league wasn't as close to as pass friendly as it is now.  Considering the degree of difficulty, you have to consider Marino better and nobody outside of the Marino family would call Mario better than Unitas, Montana, Manning or Brady.

I like Rodgers a lot (and I hate Marino).  But 6 seasons in, he isn't better than Dan "Not The Greatest QB Ever" Marino.
 
2014-03-27 05:33:38 PM  

jlevine: But 6 seasons in, he isn't better than Dan "Not The Greatest QB Ever" Marino.


Yes, more yards in fewer games, roughly equivalent TDs (especially bringing in Rodgers' rushing ability), and half the turnovers (not to mention a title) isn't better than Marino, all because "the league wasn't as pass friendly".

I mean, yes, it's more pass friendly now, but not THAT much more.
 
2014-03-27 06:15:21 PM  

IAmRight: jlevine: But 6 seasons in, he isn't better than Dan "Not The Greatest QB Ever" Marino.

Yes, more yards in fewer games, roughly equivalent TDs (especially bringing in Rodgers' rushing ability), and half the turnovers (not to mention a title) isn't better than Marino, all because "the league wasn't as pass friendly".

I mean, yes, it's more pass friendly now, but not THAT much more.


It is alot more pass friendly. Exhibit A: a mongloid Matt Stafford threw for 5000 yards.
 
2014-03-27 06:40:26 PM  
msparl01:  Get the point?  It's called a 'team' game for a reason.  Peyton gets that.

Thank you.

It's not rocket science--one man does not a team make.  Even the mighty Lebron James took a few dollars less when he realized he needed a team around him to win a title.

Stupid "well, if the market allows for  this, then why not?" shortsightedness is how leagues get ruined.
 
2014-03-27 07:16:31 PM  

jlevine: roc6783: Any particular reason? I gotta think if he isn't completely underestimated, he doesn't do what he has done. Manning started at day one, and has never looked back. I think Rodgers is the best QB to ever play in the NFL, but if I need a rookie as my franchise starter this season, I think Pey Pey is the best option.

6 seasons as an NFL starter and he's the greatest ever?

Marino's numbers through 6 years as a starter are pretty much the exact same:

Name       Starts         Total Yards          TD              INT
Marino        85              23,856             196             103
Rodgers     87              23,868              187              51

Admittedly Marino's INTs are double Rodgers (as was his INT rate) but that was back when the league wasn't as close to as pass friendly as it is now.  Considering the degree of difficulty, you have to consider Marino better and nobody outside of the Marino family would call Mario better than Unitas, Montana, Manning or Brady.

I like Rodgers a lot (and I hate Marino).  But 6 seasons in, he isn't better than Dan "Not The Greatest QB Ever" Marino.


Interceptions are a vitally important stat.

If I was arguing Dan's case I would compare his numbers to what the league average was at the time against how Rodgers' numbers compared to the league averages now

I wouldn't throw up two stat lines where one has double the interceptions.
 
2014-03-27 07:44:01 PM  
I'd say the important part was....what year did Marino set that 5000 yard mark again?

Yea. And it stood for HOW long, again?

Marino is a shiatbag and I detest and loathe him personally, but that man had one of the prettiest releases in history. One of the best pure passers ever, and even I say that with respect. And I wouldn't piss on him to put him out if he was on fire.
 
2014-03-27 07:50:51 PM  

flak attack: I'm just waiting for the day that both Brady and Manning decide they want a Suber Bowl win at all costs and sign for vet minimum.


technically the Titans were willing to offer Peyton partial ownership of the friggin' team if he took a small contract

at the end of the day tho both of those guys combined have been to 8 super bowls in the last 13 years, both have rings, both thoroughly destroyed Marino's touchdown record multiple times, both have played exceptionally well late in their careers

i dunno why i should care that either get another ring - i feel like the Patriots need another trophy more than Brady does just to get that spygate stink off

at some point tho we're just toying with egos, maybe this is why i enjoyed watching the seahawks blowout the broncos...
 
2014-03-27 08:52:31 PM  

IAmRight: jlevine: But 6 seasons in, he isn't better than Dan "Not The Greatest QB Ever" Marino.

Yes, more yards in fewer games, roughly equivalent TDs (especially bringing in Rodgers' rushing ability), and half the turnovers (not to mention a title) isn't better than Marino, all because "the league wasn't as pass friendly".

I mean, yes, it's more pass friendly now, but not THAT much more.


When Marino started, the league average interception percentage was 4.4%.  Rodgers first year as a starter, it was 2.8%.  The turnover ratio hasn't halved, but it is mind blowing how far it has fallen.  That said, it is kind of unfair to compare the two on a year by year basis, given that Rodgers had 2 years to learn his teams offense before he had to go out and play.
 
2014-03-27 08:55:35 PM  

Shoop008: flak attack: flak attack: I'm just waiting for the day that both Brady and Manning decide they want a Suber Bowl win at all costs and sign for vet minimum.

Or at the very least, a Super Bowl

While I think they could/would accept a low contract, I don't think they can accept league minimum. The NFLPA would likely have a huge problem with it.


Sure they can.  The league minimum for a 10+ year player is $955,000.  There's no reason they can't accept that.  They won't, which is why the NFLPA isn't worried about it, but there's no reason that they  can't
 
2014-03-27 10:44:58 PM  
Jlevine - do those stats include Rodgers rushing, or are those only passing? Cuz then you only have half of Rodgers game counted, and what you just proved is that Rodgers is twice as good, if not more taking the INTs into account, than Marino. The only comparable QB is Steve Young, and, barring injury, Rodgers should end up with better numbers, even taking rule changes and whatever else into account.
 
2014-03-28 08:45:09 AM  

ShadezofDis: roc6783: Any particular reason? I gotta think if he isn't completely underestimated, he doesn't do what he has done. Manning started at day one, and has never looked back. I think Rodgers is the best QB to ever play in the NFL, but if I need a rookie as my franchise starter this season, I think Pey Pey is the best option.

Pey Pey? Best as a rookie option?

I mean, it's all anecdotal, because teams really farking matter in football but Pey Pey didn't exactly cover himself in glory his rookie year.

/And Tom Tom rode an amazing D.


Tom rode an amazing D


/snert
 
2014-03-28 03:40:06 PM  

ColonelCathcart: ShadezofDis: roc6783: Any particular reason? I gotta think if he isn't completely underestimated, he doesn't do what he has done. Manning started at day one, and has never looked back. I think Rodgers is the best QB to ever play in the NFL, but if I need a rookie as my franchise starter this season, I think Pey Pey is the best option.

Pey Pey? Best as a rookie option?

I mean, it's all anecdotal, because teams really farking matter in football but Pey Pey didn't exactly cover himself in glory his rookie year.

/And Tom Tom rode an amazing D.

Tom rode an amazing D


/snert


Finally, someone saw what I did there.

/No, I didn't really mean to do that.
//Farking funny, though.
 
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