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2014-03-27 11:53:27 AM  
This is going to be bigger than the news media embarrassing the department. Apparently, the Firefighter was cuffed for the heinous crime of contempt of cop, and it also interfered with the ongoing treatment of the patient. Louisiana is one of the states which have laws on the book that prohibit cops from interfering with the duties of an emergency medical responder, and in the state the Fire Department or EMS agency on scene has control until threats to life and property are resolved.

There could be criminal charges and civil suits coming up in the near future for this douchebag.
 
2014-03-27 12:33:41 PM  
Police Chief Kevin McDonald, standing in front of his personal car covered in what appeared to be fire-axe damage, said the issue has been resolved, but he wouldn't elaborate.
 
2014-03-27 12:39:39 PM  
FTA: "I think what his problem was, was an ego thing," Harris told the reporters. "He's not listening to me because I'm in authority and he should have moved faster when I told him to. I don't think it was fair. I don't think that's right."

This guy's psychology is COMPLETELY inappropriate for police work.
 
2014-03-27 12:56:19 PM  

Tigger: FTA: "I think what his problem was, was an ego thing," Harris told the reporters. "He's not listening to me because I'm in authority and he should have moved faster when I told him to. I don't think it was fair. I don't think that's right."

This guy's psychology is COMPLETELY inappropriate for police work.


It's too common. Especially among state troopers. I've had them refuse to shut interstates/highways down despite the fact you could see a helicopter on final approach to land.
 
2014-03-27 01:00:38 PM  

hardinparamedic: Tigger: FTA: "I think what his problem was, was an ego thing," Harris told the reporters. "He's not listening to me because I'm in authority and he should have moved faster when I told him to. I don't think it was fair. I don't think that's right."

This guy's psychology is COMPLETELY inappropriate for police work.

It's too common. Especially among state troopers. I've had them refuse to shut interstates/highways down despite the fact you could see a helicopter on final approach to land.


I will never ever understand why we let cops get away with what they get away with in this country. It's insane.
 
2014-03-27 01:16:16 PM  

Tigger: hardinparamedic: Tigger: FTA: "I think what his problem was, was an ego thing," Harris told the reporters. "He's not listening to me because I'm in authority and he should have moved faster when I told him to. I don't think it was fair. I don't think that's right."

This guy's psychology is COMPLETELY inappropriate for police work.

It's too common. Especially among state troopers. I've had them refuse to shut interstates/highways down despite the fact you could see a helicopter on final approach to land.

I will never ever understand why we let cops get away with what they get away with in this country. It's insane.


They have all the power and we (non-cops) have all the responsibility; it's simple, really
 
2014-03-27 01:16:34 PM  
This is all cops east of Texas
 
2014-03-27 01:16:47 PM  
A cop with an Ego problem?!? Well I never...
 
2014-03-27 01:17:12 PM  

Brainsick: Tigger: hardinparamedic: Tigger: FTA: "I think what his problem was, was an ego thing," Harris told the reporters. "He's not listening to me because I'm in authority and he should have moved faster when I told him to. I don't think it was fair. I don't think that's right."

This guy's psychology is COMPLETELY inappropriate for police work.

It's too common. Especially among state troopers. I've had them refuse to shut interstates/highways down despite the fact you could see a helicopter on final approach to land.

I will never ever understand why we let cops get away with what they get away with in this country. It's insane.

They have all the power and we (non-cops) have all the responsibility; it's simple, really


Jury duty

Don't skip it
 
2014-03-27 01:18:33 PM  
Jack booted union thug vs jack booted union thug.
 
2014-03-27 01:20:12 PM  

LarryDan43: Jack booted union thug vs jack booted union thug.


Yeah, you really don't want to mess with that volunteer firefighters' union.
 
2014-03-27 01:21:23 PM  
That's some pretty lousy reporting.  How is the patient?
 
PJ-
2014-03-27 01:22:33 PM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: Brainsick: Tigger: hardinparamedic: Tigger: FTA: "I think what his problem was, was an ego thing," Harris told the reporters. "He's not listening to me because I'm in authority and he should have moved faster when I told him to. I don't think it was fair. I don't think that's right."

This guy's psychology is COMPLETELY inappropriate for police work.

It's too common. Especially among state troopers. I've had them refuse to shut interstates/highways down despite the fact you could see a helicopter on final approach to land.

I will never ever understand why we let cops get away with what they get away with in this country. It's insane.

They have all the power and we (non-cops) have all the responsibility; it's simple, really

Jury duty

Don't skip it


Yes, because cases that involve police breaking the law make it to court on a regular basis.
 
2014-03-27 01:23:02 PM  

Tigger: FTA: "I think what his problem was, was an ego thing," Harris told the reporters. "He's not listening to me because I'm in authority and he should have moved faster when I told him to. I don't think it was fair. I don't think that's right."

This guy's psychology is COMPLETELY inappropriate for police work.


The article is poorly written, but this is quoting a witness speaking in the second person/what she thinks was running through the cop's head.

I had to read it three or four times after I came to the same conclusion you did, then wondering if a cop could truly be dumb enough to say that on record.
 
2014-03-27 01:23:09 PM  
i375.photobucket.com
fark you, farkin' queers. Firemen gettin' pussy for the first time in the history of fire or pussy. Hey go save a kitten in a tree, you farking homos.
 
2014-03-27 01:23:46 PM  
dublinopinion.com
 
2014-03-27 01:23:57 PM  
Only cops are allowed to unnecessarily block traffic with their vehicles.
 
2014-03-27 01:24:07 PM  

Tigger: FTA: "I think what his problem was, was an ego thing," Harris told the reporters. "He's not listening to me because I'm in authority and he should have moved faster when I told him to. I don't think it was fair. I don't think that's right."

This guy's psychology is COMPLETELY inappropriate for police work.


It's a little confusing from the article, but this line is not the officer being quoted. Harris seems to be the neighbor, so this is the neighbor's interpretation of what was going on.
 
2014-03-27 01:25:00 PM  

Brainsick: Tigger: hardinparamedic: Tigger: FTA: "I think what his problem was, was an ego thing," Harris told the reporters. "He's not listening to me because I'm in authority and he should have moved faster when I told him to. I don't think it was fair. I don't think that's right."

This guy's psychology is COMPLETELY inappropriate for police work.

It's too common. Especially among state troopers. I've had them refuse to shut interstates/highways down despite the fact you could see a helicopter on final approach to land.

I will never ever understand why we let cops get away with what they get away with in this country. It's insane.

They have all the power and we (non-cops) have all the responsibility; it's simple, really


Who watches the watchers?  Well we do.  Most of us have cameras that record.  If one or two do it, the officer might be able to confiscate them, but if EVERYONE does it then there is not much they can do.  As long as they are in public they also have no right to privacy.  They record almost everything you do, and you also have the right as well.. (not a lawyer, maybe Theaetetus can help out on this) By the way the Fire-Axe comment was awesome...
 
2014-03-27 01:26:59 PM  

Thingster: Tigger: FTA: "I think what his problem was, was an ego thing," Harris told the reporters. "He's not listening to me because I'm in authority and he should have moved faster when I told him to. I don't think it was fair. I don't think that's right."

This guy's psychology is COMPLETELY inappropriate for police work.

The article is poorly written, but this is quoting a witness speaking in the second person/what she thinks was running through the cop's head.

I had to read it three or four times after I came to the same conclusion you did, then wondering if a cop could truly be dumb enough to say that on record.


Ah I see that now.

I stand by my assertion this man is mentally unfit for police work and should be immediately terminated.
 
2014-03-27 01:27:31 PM  

Tigger: Thingster: Tigger: FTA: "I think what his problem was, was an ego thing," Harris told the reporters. "He's not listening to me because I'm in authority and he should have moved faster when I told him to. I don't think it was fair. I don't think that's right."

This guy's psychology is COMPLETELY inappropriate for police work.

The article is poorly written, but this is quoting a witness speaking in the second person/what she thinks was running through the cop's head.

I had to read it three or four times after I came to the same conclusion you did, then wondering if a cop could truly be dumb enough to say that on record.

Ah I see that now.

I stand by my assertion this man is mentally unfit for police work and should be immediately terminated.


And I concur!
 
2014-03-27 01:27:35 PM  

noblewolf: Brainsick: Tigger: hardinparamedic: Tigger: FTA: "I think what his problem was, was an ego thing," Harris told the reporters. "He's not listening to me because I'm in authority and he should have moved faster when I told him to. I don't think it was fair. I don't think that's right."

This guy's psychology is COMPLETELY inappropriate for police work.

It's too common. Especially among state troopers. I've had them refuse to shut interstates/highways down despite the fact you could see a helicopter on final approach to land.

I will never ever understand why we let cops get away with what they get away with in this country. It's insane.

They have all the power and we (non-cops) have all the responsibility; it's simple, really

Who watches the watchers?  Well we do.  Most of us have cameras that record.  If one or two do it, the officer might be able to confiscate them, but if EVERYONE does it then there is not much they can do.  As long as they are in public they also have no right to privacy.  They record almost everything you do, and you also have the right as well.. (not a lawyer, maybe Theaetetus can help out on this) By the way the Fire-Axe comment was awesome...


Theatetus isn't a lawyer, why would you ever think that?
 
2014-03-27 01:28:22 PM  
And I thought the CHP was the only department that did this.
 
2014-03-27 01:30:22 PM  

hardinparamedic: There could be criminal charges and civil suits coming up in the near future for this douchebag.


No, there couldn't be.  Given your law-enforcement employment, you should know better.

The chief has already said there will be no charges, so no breaking of qualified immunity.
 
2014-03-27 01:31:48 PM  

noblewolf: Brainsick: Tigger: hardinparamedic: Tigger: FTA: "I think what his problem was, was an ego thing," Harris told the reporters. "He's not listening to me because I'm in authority and he should have moved faster when I told him to. I don't think it was fair. I don't think that's right."

This guy's psychology is COMPLETELY inappropriate for police work.

It's too common. Especially among state troopers. I've had them refuse to shut interstates/highways down despite the fact you could see a helicopter on final approach to land.

I will never ever understand why we let cops get away with what they get away with in this country. It's insane.

They have all the power and we (non-cops) have all the responsibility; it's simple, really

Who watches the watchers?  Well we do.  Most of us have cameras that record.  If one or two do it, the officer might be able to confiscate them, but if EVERYONE does it then there is not much they can do.  As long as they are in public they also have no right to privacy.  They record almost everything you do, and you also have the right as well.. (not a lawyer, maybe Theaetetus can help out on this) By the way the Fire-Axe comment was awesome...


In the First Circuit (Glik), yes, and I believe the Seventh Circuit now, too (Alvarez). Elsewhere, it's still up in the air, so may vary by jurisdiction. And thanks.
 
2014-03-27 01:34:32 PM  

LarryDan43: Jack booted union thug vs jack booted union thug.


And neither of them hold a candle to this steel-toe-booted union thug right here.  Bite your tongue or I'll get internet-tough-guy on your opinionated behind.
 
2014-03-27 01:35:48 PM  

Theaetetus: Police Chief Kevin McDonald,


This Police Chief Kevin McDonald?
 
2014-03-27 01:39:38 PM  

Theaetetus: In the First Circuit (Glik), yes, and I believe the Seventh Circuit now, too (Alvarez). Elsewhere, it's still up in the air, so may vary by jurisdiction. And thanks.


9th (Fordyce) and 11th (Smith v City of Cummings) too.  New Jersey Appellate Division says OK as well, Baltimore just settled a suit and modified its policies, and it's the DOJ official position, so it's getting pretty hard to argue that it's not "clearly established."
 
2014-03-27 01:44:15 PM  
I don't think the cop needs to be fired but there should definitely be some disciplinary action. The firefighter was doing his job. The cop was out of line.
 
2014-03-27 01:46:01 PM  
The funny part is we usually leave the keys in and the engine running when on a scene.  Cop could have moved either vehicle himself....  First in pickup truck may have been POV, in that case the cop could have asked for the keys to move the truck.
 
2014-03-27 01:47:53 PM  

Tigger: hardinparamedic: Tigger: FTA: "I think what his problem was, was an ego thing," Harris told the reporters. "He's not listening to me because I'm in authority and he should have moved faster when I told him to. I don't think it was fair. I don't think that's right."

This guy's psychology is COMPLETELY inappropriate for police work.

It's too common. Especially among state troopers. I've had them refuse to shut interstates/highways down despite the fact you could see a helicopter on final approach to land.

I will never ever understand why we let cops get away with what they get away with in this country. It's insane.


Seriously. There needs to be a citizens group that enforces consequences when the police step grossly over the line. They'll think twice about murdering someone if they know it means they'll likely be murdered themselves, and chiefs will crack down on this sort of power-tripping if they know it represents a real threat to the safety of their officers.
 
2014-03-27 01:49:08 PM  

LarryDan43: Jack booted union thug vs jack booted union thug.


Volunteer firefighters typically are not part of the IAFF
 
2014-03-27 01:49:52 PM  
img.fark.net

What police who don't get along with the fire department may look like.
 
2014-03-27 01:50:37 PM  
McDonald did say the officer in question won't be disciplined

Dear cancer fairy,

Please visit this asshole's children.

Sincerely,

Humanity,
 
2014-03-27 01:51:48 PM  
hardinparamedic [TotalFark]

This is going to be bigger than the news media embarrassing the department. Apparently, the Firefighter was cuffed for the heinous crime of contempt of cop, and it also interfered with the ongoing treatment of the patient. Louisiana is one of the states which have laws on the book that prohibit cops from interfering with the duties of an emergency medical responder,

Oh-you-were-serious-let-me-laugh-harder.jpg
 
2014-03-27 01:52:42 PM  

vudukungfu


Theaetetus: Police Chief Kevin McDonald,

This Police Chief Kevin McDonald?


Appreciated, but Kevin McDonald was the guy who got maced and cane-struck by the old lady (played by Scott Thompson). :-) The tall one in the cop sketches is Mark McKinney and the short one is Bruce McCullough.
 
2014-03-27 01:53:59 PM  
Duke_leto_Atredes


This is all cops east of Texas Eastport, Maine

fixed that for you.
 
2014-03-27 01:55:27 PM  

hardinparamedic: LarryDan43: Jack booted union thug vs jack booted union thug.

Volunteer firefighters typically are not part of the IAFF


... but the law quoted in TFA includes volunteer firefighters as people who are protected from douchebags while rendering assistance.
 
2014-03-27 01:55:52 PM  

Tigger: FTA: "I think what his problem was, was an ego thing," Harris told the reporters. "He's not listening to me because I'm in authority and he should have moved faster when I told him to. I don't think it was fair. I don't think that's right."

This guy's psychology is COMPLETELY inappropriate entirely typical for of police work.


Fixed it for you.
 
2014-03-27 01:56:20 PM  

JesusJuice: Tigger: hardinparamedic: Tigger: FTA: "I think what his problem was, was an ego thing," Harris told the reporters. "He's not listening to me because I'm in authority and he should have moved faster when I told him to. I don't think it was fair. I don't think that's right."

This guy's psychology is COMPLETELY inappropriate for police work.

It's too common. Especially among state troopers. I've had them refuse to shut interstates/highways down despite the fact you could see a helicopter on final approach to land.

I will never ever understand why we let cops get away with what they get away with in this country. It's insane.

Seriously. There needs to be a citizens group that enforces consequences when the police step grossly over the line. They'll think twice about murdering someone if they know it means they'll likely be murdered themselves, and chiefs will crack down on this sort of power-tripping if they know it represents a real threat to the safety of their officers.


There's a better way.  When a cop gets out of line like this you hang not only the cop but the chief and mayor.  Their replacements will get the cops under control right farking now and it'll never happen again
 
2014-03-27 01:57:34 PM  
noblewolf [TotalFark]
2014-03-27 01:25:00 PM

Brainsick: Tigger: hardinparamedic: Tigger: FTA: "I think what his problem was, was an ego thing," Harris told the reporters. "He's not listening to me because I'm in authority and he should have moved faster when I told him to. I don't think it was fair. I don't think that's right."

This guy's psychology is COMPLETELY inappropriate for police work.

It's too common. Especially among state troopers. I've had them refuse to shut interstates/highways down despite the fact you could see a helicopter on final approach to land.

I will never ever understand why we let cops get away with what they get away with in this country. It's insane.

They have all the power and we (non-cops) have all the responsibility; it's simple, really

Who watches the watchers? Well we do. Most of us have cameras that record. If one or two do it, the officer might be able to confiscate them, but if EVERYONE does it then there is not much they can do.

You honestly believe that will matter?

img.gawkerassets.com

No question what happened her, yet the liberal DA in the liberal state of california ruled that cops can fire on anyone anytime they get nervous and it's completely justified.

Photos and video will do nothing to change this.
 
2014-03-27 02:05:35 PM  

hardinparamedic: This is going to be bigger than the news media embarrassing the department. Apparently, the Firefighter was cuffed for the heinous crime of contempt of cop, and it also interfered with the ongoing treatment of the patient. Louisiana is one of the states which have laws on the book that prohibit cops from interfering with the duties of an emergency medical responder, and in the state the Fire Department or EMS agency on scene has control until threats to life and property are resolved.

There could be criminal charges and civil suits coming up in the near future for this douchebag.


I'll believe that when I see it.
 
2014-03-27 02:06:28 PM  

OnlyM3: Duke_leto_Atredes


This is all cops westeast of Texas Eastport, Maine
fixed that for you.


fixed that for you.
 
2014-03-27 02:16:42 PM  

mofa: hardinparamedic: LarryDan43: Jack booted union thug vs jack booted union thug.

Volunteer firefighters typically are not part of the IAFF

... but the law quoted in TFA includes volunteer firefighters as people who are protected from douchebags while rendering assistance.


I was more referring to the "union bad durrr" comment.

70% of the American fire service is unpaid and non-union.
 
2014-03-27 02:19:36 PM  

mofa: hardinparamedic: LarryDan43: Jack booted union thug vs jack booted union thug.

Volunteer firefighters typically are not part of the IAFF

... but the law quoted in TFA includes volunteer firefighters as people who are protected from douchebags while rendering assistance.


The difference is that we don't train law enforcement to actually KNOW the law. HAHAHAHA.  You're funny.  You expect that our police should be trained to do anything except beat/shoot homeless schizophrenics to death and protect the 1% from the rest of the riff raff.  Pfft.

Here in CT where someone was arrested for carrying open (in a holster) as the law allows a permit holder to do...that individual was arrested and charged with brandishing a firearm because some nutbar was either trolling or afraid for no reason.  What did a state attorney give as advice?  Don't carry open citizen...the cops might not know that its legal.

So the police are under exactly ZERO obligation to know what laws they are supposed to enforce and can actually arrest you for made-up reasons legally.  They also have zero obligation to find out whether or not they are correct.  If you challenge them you might get breach of peace, resisting arrest, interfering with the duty of a public officer and other charges.  Also they might beat you, break your bones or otherwise ruin your life through the legal system.  Oh they can do all of that as a matter of course.  Is it any wonder  that this profession attracts control freaks and sociopaths?
 
2014-03-27 02:24:57 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: JesusJuice: Tigger: hardinparamedic: Tigger: FTA: "I think what his problem was, was an ego thing," Harris told the reporters. "He's not listening to me because I'm in authority and he should have moved faster when I told him to. I don't think it was fair. I don't think that's right."

This guy's psychology is COMPLETELY inappropriate for police work.

It's too common. Especially among state troopers. I've had them refuse to shut interstates/highways down despite the fact you could see a helicopter on final approach to land.

I will never ever understand why we let cops get away with what they get away with in this country. It's insane.

Seriously. There needs to be a citizens group that enforces consequences when the police step grossly over the line. They'll think twice about murdering someone if they know it means they'll likely be murdered themselves, and chiefs will crack down on this sort of power-tripping if they know it represents a real threat to the safety of their officers.

There's a better way.  When a cop gets out of line like this you hang not only the cop but the chief and mayor.  Their replacements will get the cops under control right farking now and it'll never happen again


I like it, but it's not practical. Retaliating against a specific person is difficult. Retaliating against a random cop in the same department is easy. Just call 911 from a pay phone and wait for them to show up.
 
2014-03-27 02:24:57 PM  

buzzcut73: LarryDan43: Jack booted union thug vs jack booted union thug.

Yeah, you really don't want to mess with that volunteer firefighters' union.


They're a shiatty union. I'm the chief of our department, and I don't get paid a dime. You'd really think that a jack-booted union thug would be compensated better.
 
2014-03-27 02:26:35 PM  

noblewolf: Brainsick: Tigger: hardinparamedic: Tigger: FTA: "I think what his problem was, was an ego thing," Harris told the reporters. "He's not listening to me because I'm in authority and he should have moved faster when I told him to. I don't think it was fair. I don't think that's right."

This guy's psychology is COMPLETELY inappropriate for police work.

It's too common. Especially among state troopers. I've had them refuse to shut interstates/highways down despite the fact you could see a helicopter on final approach to land.

I will never ever understand why we let cops get away with what they get away with in this country. It's insane.

They have all the power and we (non-cops) have all the responsibility; it's simple, really

Who watches the watchers?  Well we do.  Most of us have cameras that record.  If one or two do it, the officer might be able to confiscate them, but if EVERYONE does it then there is not much they can do.  As long as they are in public they also have no right to privacy.  They record almost everything you do, and you also have the right as well.. (not a lawyer, maybe Theaetetus can help out on this) By the way the Fire-Axe comment was awesome...


IANAL, but it does depend on the state and jurisdiction. Most lawyers do advise two things:

1) use a service that instantly uploads your video to either a cloud service or YouTube or both so the video cannot be erased by law enforcement (or LEOs cannot force you to erase it)

2) if a LEO asks you to stop recording, regardless of your rights and how well you know them, do so immediately. Fight about your rights in a court of law with a proficient attorney. The street with a pissed off cop whose authoritai you WILL respect is not the place for that fight unless you enjoy steel bracelets and cramped cells.
 
2014-03-27 02:43:08 PM  
Until all internal review boards are disbanded and replaced with public review boards made up of people who live in the community, with the power to immediately fire repeat offending officers for serious infractions, nothing will change.
 
2014-03-27 02:43:58 PM  
I really didn't need more evidence to prove that cops have low iq's that come with authority complexes.
 
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