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(New York Daily News)   We apologise again for the fault in the security. The security guard hired to replace the security guard who was sacked for falling asleep has been sacked for falling asleep by the people who hire security guards, who have NOT been sacked   (nydailynews.com) divider line 32
    More: Followup, World Trade Center, sleeping on the job, security guards, Freedom Tower, World Trade Center site  
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2014-03-27 12:54:14 PM
On a security guards hourly rate, in New York -he probably has to have three full time jobs working 160 hours in order to make rent.
 
2014-03-27 01:03:48 PM
The security guards have been hired by an entirely different style at great expense and at the last minute. Executive Officer JOHN GOLDSTONE & "RALPH" The Wonder Llama. Officer MARK FORSTATER Assisted By EARL J. LLAMA MIKE Q. LLAMA III SY LLAMA MERLE Z. LLAMA IX Directed By 40 SPECIALLY TRAINED ECUADORIAN MOUNTAIN SECURITY GUARD LLAMAS 6, VENEZUELAN RED POLICE LLAMAS, 142 MEXICAN RENTACOP WHOOPING LLAMAS, 14 NORTH CHILEAN MP GUANACOS (CLOSELY RELATED TO THE LLAMA) REG LLAMA OF BRIXTON, 76000 TSA BATTERY LLAMAS FROM "LLAMA-FRESH" FARMS LTD. NEAR PARAGUAY and TERRY GILLIAM & TERRY JONES
 
2014-03-27 01:19:49 PM
The World Trade Center's loss is TSA's gain.
 
2014-03-27 01:21:22 PM
Apologise. You should apologise for not spell checking spellmitter.
 
2014-03-27 01:24:09 PM
FTA: "Basher, who suffers from a nerve condition that prevents him from opening his left eye and limits the vision of his right eye"

Sounds like a great choice for a security guard.
 
2014-03-27 01:24:10 PM
So the next batch will be fired when a guy climbs up the side of the building using suction cups?
 
2014-03-27 01:30:02 PM
** clears throat**

Ok, I am going to weigh in on this and I know that most of you wont pay it any attention.

I provided Security Officers to almost all the major entertainment companies in the L.A. Area. I provided Officers for Universal Studios, Disney, Fox, CBS, NBC, Etc.

The problem that is happening at 1 WTC is NOT GOING TO CHANGE UNTIL CORPORATE AMERICA DECIDES TO PAY FOR PROFESSIONAL SECURITY.

Think about it, they are spending 3 BILLION dollars to build the building and paying a Security company probably a $16/hr BILLING rate for Officers. That billing rate allows for around a $9.50/hr pay rate.

I said it my entire Security management career, "you are not going to get quality Security Officers for $9.50/hr with crappy benefits".

You pay $25/hr + benefits and you will get Ex-Military, retired Cops, etc. that will take ownership in the property they are guarding.

/Rant off
 
2014-03-27 01:30:03 PM
They should put dead rotting corpses as security guards to make people think the building is being protected by zombies.  Either that or just have security be made up of members from the Department of Education, which is pretty much the same thing.
 
2014-03-27 01:30:44 PM

groppet: So the next batch will be fired when a guy joker climbs up the side of the building using suction cups?


FTFY
scifimafia.com
/Mynd you, base yumper bites Kan be pretty nasti
 
2014-03-27 01:33:03 PM

Beerguy: ** clears throat**

Ok, I am going to weigh in on this and I know that most of you wont pay it any attention.

I provided Security Officers to almost all the major entertainment companies in the L.A. Area. I provided Officers for Universal Studios, Disney, Fox, CBS, NBC, Etc.

The problem that is happening at 1 WTC is NOT GOING TO CHANGE UNTIL CORPORATE AMERICA DECIDES TO PAY FOR PROFESSIONAL SECURITY.

Think about it, they are spending 3 BILLION dollars to build the building and paying a Security company probably a $16/hr BILLING rate for Officers. That billing rate allows for around a $9.50/hr pay rate.

I said it my entire Security management career, "you are not going to get quality Security Officers for $9.50/hr with crappy benefits".

You pay $25/hr + benefits and you will get Ex-Military, retired Cops, etc. that will take ownership in the property they are guarding.

/Rant off


This...


And then this from the comments on TFA:
Great. Hire a blind Muslim to guard the WTC.. Isn't this the most incredible thing you ever read?  Should be a butt of jokes on the night shows.  But its not funny.
 
2014-03-27 01:39:38 PM
What Beerguy said.  I did similar work.  Especially on the overnight shift, you're going to get people working two jobs.  It's easier to convince the client to pay for 2x the number of people they need and hope they are smart enough to take turns sleeping.
 
2014-03-27 01:40:19 PM
i249.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-27 01:42:00 PM
I don't get it.


/obscure?!?!


...wait for it.
 
2014-03-27 01:43:31 PM
johngushue.typepad.com
 
2014-03-27 01:45:02 PM
That is some top flight security you got there boys -

Basher, who suffers from a nerve condition that prevents him from opening his left eye and limits the vision of his right eye,

Is this ADA run amok or what?
 
2014-03-27 01:45:36 PM

jpat: What Beerguy said.  I did similar work.  Especially on the overnight shift, you're going to get people working two jobs.  It's easier to convince the client to pay for 2x the number of people they need and hope they are smart enough to take turns sleeping.


Then you know as well as I, that we could put that building on lock-down using properly instituted access controls with Security professionals properly positioned and it would be as tight as a drum...but, it wouldn't be cheap.
 
2014-03-27 01:49:33 PM

Beerguy: ** clears throat**

Ok, I am going to weigh in on this and I know that most of you wont pay it any attention.

I provided Security Officers to almost all the major entertainment companies in the L.A. Area. I provided Officers for Universal Studios, Disney, Fox, CBS, NBC, Etc.

The problem that is happening at 1 WTC is NOT GOING TO CHANGE UNTIL CORPORATE AMERICA DECIDES TO PAY FOR PROFESSIONAL SECURITY.

Think about it, they are spending 3 BILLION dollars to build the building and paying a Security company probably a $16/hr BILLING rate for Officers. That billing rate allows for around a $9.50/hr pay rate.

I said it my entire Security management career, "you are not going to get quality Security Officers for $9.50/hr with crappy benefits".

You pay $25/hr + benefits and you will get Ex-Military, retired Cops, etc. that will take ownership in the property they are guarding.

/Rant off


Agreed.  This.

I wouldn't say that you won't find some quality folks for that pay, but you're absolutely gonna find better people when you pay and screen better.
 
2014-03-27 01:55:40 PM
We should throw a Fark party on the roof they will never catch us!

And what beerguy said you want the best its gonna cost.
 
2014-03-27 01:56:55 PM

ferretman: FTA: "Basher, who suffers from a nerve condition that prevents him from opening his left eye and limits the vision of his right eye"

Sounds like a great choice for a security guard.


Or a referee.

/It was another case of blind justice, and the judge wasn't gonna look at the 27... ... ...
 
2014-03-27 02:00:04 PM

KyDave: ferretman: FTA: "Basher, who suffers from a nerve condition that prevents him from opening his left eye and limits the vision of his right eye"

Sounds like a great choice for a security guard.

Or a referee.

/It was another case of blind justice, and the judge wasn't gonna look at the 27... ... ...


Very nice off-season reference.
 
2014-03-27 02:01:46 PM
Beerguy [TotalFark]

You pay $25/hr + benefits and you will get Ex-Military, retired Cops, etc. that will take ownership in the property they are guarding.
I'll refrain from commenting on the ptsd ex-mil, but cops? I thought you were trying to sell us on "professional"?
 
2014-03-27 02:06:17 PM

Beerguy: and paying a Security company probably a $16/hr BILLING rate for Officers


Is this a guess or are you basing this statement on something specific?
 
2014-03-27 02:06:51 PM
FTA: Basher

It's OK, they got at least eight other guards to replace him. Lancer, Francer, Nixon, Vomit, Vapid, Bonner, Ditzen and Adolf.
 
2014-03-27 02:11:25 PM

ferretman: FTA: "Basher, who suffers from a nerve condition that prevents him from opening his left eye and limits the vision of his right eye"

Sounds like a great choice for a security guard.


www.hdforums.com
 
2014-03-27 02:26:41 PM
I used to work for a huge international goods company. Their security guards at the headquarters were a joke. Most of them were overweight, old, or physically disabled. They were little more than a body in Securitas shirt. It would've taken little more than a slow jog to get passed the security desk to enter the building.

Interesting (but not surprising) that a multi billion dollar company would give security duties to the lowest bidder.
 
2014-03-27 02:33:29 PM

Belias: Beerguy: and paying a Security company probably a $16/hr BILLING rate for Officers

Is this a guess or are you basing this statement on something specific?


That is an educated guess based upon the history of corporate security practices particularly with regard to buildings still under construction (based upon 15 years of experience).

Once the building is in operation, I have no doubt that the overall security will be managed better. Hopefully, management will provide a robust budget for building security.

Access to the building should be as tightly controlled now as it will be once occupied.

You may ask why?, so here are two examples of assassination attempts (1 successful and 1 not) where explosives were planted in an area before it was occupied.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Georg_Elser - gained access to a hall (over a number of nights) where Hitler would be speaking and planted explosives in a pillar behind the podium. Unfortunately for the world, Hitler changed his speaking time and wasn't there when the bomb went off.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2008/07/the-assassinati/ - The assassins posed a construction workers to lay wire in pavement crossing a street. You can read the rest for yourselves.
 
2014-03-27 03:11:47 PM
I'm getting a kick out of this thread...

Haxoredbypigslol: I wouldn't say that you won't find some quality folks for that pay, but you're absolutely gonna find better people when you pay and screen better.


You might find a few quality people for that pay, but you won't keep them for more than a few weeks, maybe a month or two.


/was never caught sleeping
//quit for a better job
 
2014-03-27 04:01:52 PM
When you stay in bed, they give your job to someone new.
When they give your job to someone new, he has a lot to learn.
When he has a lot to learn, mistakes are made.
When mistakes are made, you get body slammed by a lowland gorilla.

Don't get body slammed by a lowland gorilla.
 
2014-03-27 04:25:47 PM
 FTA: "Abdul Basher, 65, of Queens was axed Saturday when a high-ranking Port Authority official used his smartphone to snap a photo of him reclining in a chair and snoozing during a surprise inspection, a source said Wednesday.

Basher, who suffers from a nerve condition that prevents him from opening his left eye and limits the vision of his right eye"


Anyone want to bet the photo was taken from his left side?
 
2014-03-27 04:57:04 PM

rainsforth: Anyone want to bet the photo was taken from his left side?


resources2.news.com.au
 
2014-03-27 08:02:07 PM
Mafia controls all those jobs.
 
2014-03-28 01:04:46 AM
Good lord, have these HR people not learned that employees need to be able to perform a "primary function of the job"? One would assume being able to SEE is important primary function of being a guard. Then again it's New York, fark em.
 
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