bdub77: The GOP finally has a way to break the cycle of poverty![img.fark.net image 387x555]
tlchwi02: The Southern Logic Company: When no one in your family can boil water, how can you expect them to cook a decent meal?or when you're (best case) living in a low rent apartment or long term cheap hotel with a hot plate, one pot and maybe a microwave?
AngryDragon: bdub77: The GOP finally has a way to break the cycle of poverty![img.fark.net image 387x555]So this is their final solution?
Z-clipped: Pangea: Of course not, and I'm not trying to minimize all the difficulties of actually being poor, but at some point the argument needs to stop being that of throwing more money at the problem.Fine. You stop making the argument that the poor are poor because they're lazy and indolent, and we'll talk.
olddinosaur: ShadowKamui: formerfloozy: Pangea: incrdbil: We need to really focus on reversible /temporary birth control technology for men and women--and make proof that such birth control is being used as a condition of recieving public assistance. Letting people breed who can't care for themselves is a recipe for failure.I don't know if you've been slaughtered for sharing this viewpoint yet, but your point is simultaneously the most hated and the most sensible.Liberals defending the rights for people to reproduce uninhibitedly because it's a basic human right, is part of what has been undermining my liberalness. I have been busting my ass and happily paying a lot of money in taxes for 25 years of employment, but that's the one that is wrecking me.Liberal here too, and I've always thought a little social engineering could go a long way. Make birth control cheap or near free, and not tie it to a doctor's visit (which is where most of the cost for came from for me) and give folks very specific sex ed. The health dept where I live was awesome, but it may not be as awesome in other places and having had to wait for months to get seen at the free clinic and taking unpaid time off of work makes it hard on working familes. People shouldn't have to give birth to children they don't want or can't afford. As far as forcing them to...eh..a little close to the line for me, but I get it. It sounds pretty punative, but we have to address the issue of having too many kids to support. I honestly don't know how to address it other than better healthcare and education.Offer a bonus system1K when you turn 18 to get snipped (for free) for dudes or require 10 years on the pill (provided for free) to girls if you have no kids500 bonus for graduating highschoolSorry, it will never happen.The libtards WANT to see a lot of dependent people, because that's what keeps them in business: justifies their existence---and buys them votes. I could hire all the poor people to do make--work jibs, and spend less than is being spent now-----but they wouldn't need me, after the first few months; they would all have found better jobs.
d23: So far we've seen just about every stereotype talking point... let's see.. what's missing.
Dr Dreidel: 2. Poorer people often have less time in which to cook food, making fast food (or "easy" food, like a bag of Doritos) an attractive option.
FLMountainMan: TheDirtyNacho: Mrs.Sharpier: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/06/maps-of-the-south-bad-place_ n _4855191.htmlThe south is an absolute hell hole. I would fully support an anarchist revolt against the government there. When Obama meddles in the affairs of the world, other world leaders should just point at Mississippi and laugh at him. I wouldn't be surprised if illegal immigrants there turn around and go right back to Mexico.I live in Texas, and I enjoy it for it is a beautiful place with friendly people, but I would not want to be poor here.We don't have any state income tax, which is attractive to many - but that also means that social services are almost non-existent. Ditto to things like public transportation. If you are poor, or worse, elderly and poor, life is difficult.It also has one of the lowest unemployment rates and costs of living. I'd rather dig a ditch in Texas than suckle the government teat in a frozen hellhole like Minnesota. Cali wouldn't be bad though...I could definitely suckle some teats there.
TheDirtyNacho: Personally, I don't like the idea of permanent underclasses. There should be at least enough services to help elderly people get to their appointments and be decently taken caren of, and for children of poverty to rise up.
Mrs.Sharpier: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/06/maps-of-the-south-bad-place_ n _4855191.htmlThe south is an absolute hell hole. I would fully support an anarchist revolt against the government there. When Obama meddles in the affairs of the world, other world leaders should just point at Mississippi and laugh at him. I wouldn't be surprised if illegal immigrants there turn around and go right back to Mexico.
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