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(ESPN)   When an NFL player gets busted for drugs and alcohol, he goes to rehab. When it's a team owner, he goes to an "out-of-state heath-care facility"   (espn.go.com) divider line 29
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2014-03-27 11:01:11 AM
When an NFL player gets busted for drugs and alcohol, he goes to rehab. When it's a team owner billionaire , he goes to an "out-of-state heath-care facility" wherever the fark he wants.

ftfy
 
2014-03-27 11:04:45 AM
Rich people are different than us. Stay tuned for more shocking revelations later today.
 
2014-03-27 11:14:31 AM
If he were an average joe, he'd be looking at 20 years in prison. As he is rich, he'll walk away with just a suspended license
 
2014-03-27 11:16:42 AM

Lost Thought 00: If he were an average joe, he'd be looking at 20 years in prison. As he is rich, he'll walk away with just a suspended license


Let's not overstate the case here, k?
 
2014-03-27 11:18:55 AM

Lost Thought 00: If he were an average joe, he'd be looking at 20 years in prison. As he is rich, he'll walk away with just a suspended license


20 years for a DUI and some pills? That's unlikely.
 
2014-03-27 11:22:57 AM

Super Chronic: Lost Thought 00: If he were an average joe, he'd be looking at 20 years in prison. As he is rich, he'll walk away with just a suspended license

Let's not overstate the case here, k?


This is true, I exaggerated. Each of the felony charges carries a 4 year sentence. so a normal joe would only be locked up for 16 years
 
2014-03-27 11:24:36 AM
8 years if you have good behavior
 
2014-03-27 11:32:20 AM
I am completely shocked. A billionaire driving a Toyota Highlander.
 
2014-03-27 11:37:04 AM

Alkoholiker: I am completely shocked. A billionaire driving a Toyota Highlander.


I noticed that too. Who knows, maybe he has one of everything.
 
2014-03-27 11:43:18 AM

Lost Thought 00: Super Chronic: Lost Thought 00: If he were an average joe, he'd be looking at 20 years in prison. As he is rich, he'll walk away with just a suspended license

Let's not overstate the case here, k?

This is true, I exaggerated. Each of the felony charges carries a 4 year sentence. so a normal joe would only be locked up for 16 years


You may not realize this but very seldom does anyone do the maximum amount of time the law carries, particularly a first time offender which I assume Irsay is. Even normal joes plea bargain.
 
2014-03-27 11:44:11 AM
What's the difference between rehab and an "out-of-state heath-care facility"?

/serious question
//it's not like the players are poor
 
2014-03-27 11:50:14 AM

skrame: What's the difference between rehab and an "out-of-state heath-care facility"?

/serious question
//it's not like the players are poor


effectively, nothing. Irsay is probably just in a much nicer place.
 
2014-03-27 11:58:00 AM

skrame: What's the difference between rehab and an "out-of-state heath-care facility"?

/serious question
//it's not like the players are poor


That was my first thought. What exactly does Subby think an 'out of state healthcare facility' is?

And what exactly do they think 'rehab' is?
 
2014-03-27 12:02:18 PM

Lost Thought 00: Super Chronic: Lost Thought 00: If he were an average joe, he'd be looking at 20 years in prison. As he is rich, he'll walk away with just a suspended license

Let's not overstate the case here, k?

This is true, I exaggerated. Each of the felony charges carries a 4 year sentence. so a normal joe would only be locked up for 16 years


And even this is wrong/exaggerated. Even if someone got the maximum for a first time offense for all four charges, despite having no criminal history and no extenuating circumstances (highly unlikely no matter what their financial situation), they'd serve those sentences concurrently. Consecutive sentences is HIGHLY unusual. Meaning all four at the same time - for a 4 year total, not 16. So out in like 2 for good behavior.

Yeah there's an issue where money means better lawyers means better outcomes. But exaggerating the issue unnecessarily just minimizes the ACTUAL problem.
 
2014-03-27 12:11:36 PM
I think subby flubbed his point there. One reason we look at it differently is that people probably don't consider the owner of a sports team a sports idol, so not a lot of kids dream of growing up and being like Irsay. Also, this doesn't interrupt an athletic career; it's just an obscenely rich guy dealing with his hobbies.
 
2014-03-27 12:21:39 PM
I really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really hope the next time someone talks about "thug culture", they throw a shout out to my man J-Irse.

// nothing compares to these blue and yellow white purple pills
 
2014-03-27 12:22:24 PM
I'd have sent him to the finest alcohol and drug treatment center in Baltimore.
 
2014-03-27 12:23:41 PM

Deneb81: That was my first thought. What exactly does Subby think an 'out of state healthcare facility' is?

And what exactly do they think 'rehab' is?


I believe the difference subby is pointing out is the verbiage used.
 
2014-03-27 12:24:20 PM

Deneb81: Lost Thought 00: Super Chronic: Lost Thought 00: If he were an average joe, he'd be looking at 20 years in prison. As he is rich, he'll walk away with just a suspended license

Let's not overstate the case here, k?

This is true, I exaggerated. Each of the felony charges carries a 4 year sentence. so a normal joe would only be locked up for 16 years

And even this is wrong/exaggerated. Even if someone got the maximum for a first time offense for all four charges, despite having no criminal history and no extenuating circumstances (highly unlikely no matter what their financial situation), they'd serve those sentences concurrently. Consecutive sentences is HIGHLY unusual. Meaning all four at the same time - for a 4 year total, not 16. So out in like 2 for good behavior.

Yeah there's an issue where money means better lawyers means better outcomes. But exaggerating the issue unnecessarily just minimizes the ACTUAL problem.


The actual problem does, I think, illustrate the difference.  As a first time offender, it is quite possible that Irsay or Normal Joe might not spend a day in prison.  But

* Normal Joe's gotta pay the fines - that's a big hit for most folks (Irsay does too, but, whatever, fines are not proportional to income/net worth)
* Normal Joe now has a conviction on his record, not gonna help him get the job he lost because of his crime (not a problem for Irsay).
* Normal Joe has lost his driver's  license, so that also limits his job opportunities (Irsay can get a driver - which he should have done in the first place, but whatever).

All that's assuming Irsay and Normal Joe get the same sentence.


(* Incidentally, Normal Joe Football Player or Exec gets fined by the League - soon we will see if owners are held to the same standards)
 
2014-03-27 12:28:45 PM
* none of this is to say Normal Joe doesn't deserve to be punished, but if no one was harmed by the crime the focus should be on rehab or whatever you want to call it
 
2014-03-27 12:44:32 PM
Not sure i see the difference here subby.... He's still essentially going to rehab, and a player is still essentially going to a care facility.     Or are you saying the difference is in how its reported to the media?  That may be, but then you should blame the player for not PR'ing his own situation better.
 
2014-03-27 12:48:14 PM
All it means is he went to a rehab facility out of state. I would assume Indiana doesn't have very fancy rehab facilities compared to other states.


Around three years ago I was visiting a friend who went to rehab to avoid jail and I joined him (another story). But in my case I went to a out of state facility since it was not in the state I was residing. While my insurance paid for it, the place I went to could be considered fancy in comparison to others and I thought it was pretty awsome. Shiat ton of food, satellite TV and basketball courts.
 
2014-03-27 12:55:55 PM
Great, now Irsay will have to join the Marines to stay out of jail.
 
2014-03-27 01:21:34 PM
I understand what the subby was going for, it was an attempt to illustrate class difference through use of language. It didn't work, because rehab isn't a place, it's a process and Jim Irsay is going to rehab, he's just going to do it at a place like Passages Malibu (Honestly, what person with the ways and means of a Jim Irsay would choose to rehab in Indiana?) where he'll take a good hard look at himself and make positive changes for the better by sipping wheat grass tea and banging the finest trim Southern California has to offer while NOTHING by way of a punishment for his actions, by the law or the league, will come to pass.

Meanwhile Von Miller was suspended 6 games w/o pay for using a substance that's legal in the state where he lives and works. He lost over 800,000 in salary, had his reputation drug through the mud, and was made an example of by Slave Master Goodell.

Basically, being rich and white is better than being rich and black.
 
2014-03-27 01:42:40 PM

Fark - You Ignorant Slut: I understand what the subby was going for, it was an attempt to illustrate class difference through use of language. It didn't work, because rehab isn't a place, it's a process and Jim Irsay is going to rehab, he's just going to do it at a place like Passages Malibu (Honestly, what person with the ways and means of a Jim Irsay would choose to rehab in Indiana?) where he'll take a good hard look at himself and make positive changes for the better by sipping wheat grass tea and banging the finest trim Southern California has to offer while NOTHING by way of a punishment for his actions, by the law or the league, will come to pass.

Meanwhile Von Miller was suspended 6 games w/o pay for using a substance that's legal in the state where he lives and works. He lost over 800,000 in salary, had his reputation drug through the mud, and was made an example of by Slave Master Goodell.

Basically, being rich and white is better than being rich and black.


Von Miller was suspended six games because he tried to cheat the drug testing process. It doesn't matter if the substance is legal or not. He's bound by the CBA. He definitely didn't help his reputation with the multiple driving offenses, arrests, and warrants.
 
2014-03-27 01:42:46 PM

Fark - You Ignorant Slut: I understand what the subby was going for, it was an attempt to illustrate class difference through use of language. It didn't work, because rehab isn't a place, it's a process and Jim Irsay is going to rehab, he's just going to do it at a place like Passages Malibu (Honestly, what person with the ways and means of a Jim Irsay would choose to rehab in Indiana?) where he'll take a good hard look at himself and make positive changes for the better by sipping wheat grass tea and banging the finest trim Southern California has to offer while NOTHING by way of a punishment for his actions, by the law or the league, will come to pass.

Meanwhile Von Miller was suspended 6 games w/o pay for using a substance that's legal in the state where he lives and works. He lost over 800,000 in salary, had his reputation drug through the mud, and was made an example of by Slave Master Goodell.

Basically, being rich and white is better than being rich and black.


a thousand internets to you.

*farkied**
 
2014-03-27 03:54:15 PM
To be fair, I'm sure Irsay lost his $29k to seizure in the War on Drugs, just like any other Joe would have if they were in possession of suspicious amounts of cash.  Justice is completely blind when it comes to procuring funds from the citizens.
 
2014-03-27 04:23:39 PM
That's a rough 54.
 
2014-03-27 07:53:55 PM
DUI is not good, but I mean it's par for the course for the league.

Being found with a bag full of prescriptions and a ton of cash? Yeah, this guy should not be allowed anywhere NEAR any Colts property for the next full year.
 
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