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(KOB4)   What happens in Albuquerque 22 times in four years? No, not the NCAA tournament. No, not an award winning television show. Yup, police fatally shoot citizens   (kob.com) divider line 65
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2014-03-26 08:42:16 PM  
Except for me.
You know why?

'Cause I had my tray table up.
And my seat back in the full upright position...
 
2014-03-26 09:08:58 PM  
I don't think that number is current, APD shot and killed someone last night.
 
2014-03-26 09:48:27 PM  
No surprise, it's a hostile, lawless place.
 
2014-03-26 10:47:30 PM  

violentsalvation: I don't think that number is current, APD shot and killed someone last night.


That they did, for wielding a deadly cell phone.

APD wears body cameras, too.
 
2014-03-26 10:56:33 PM  
Can submitter link the circumstances surrounding all 22 fatal shootings, and all 36 officer involved shootings?

Lenny_da_Hog: APD wears body cameras, too.


Good. All the more evidence you need to lock someone up for being an incompetent, murdering asshole!
 
2014-03-27 12:00:03 AM  
I'm so tired of hearing about this stuff. They never have good enough reasons for getting away with it, and now they all think they can, and they do.
DNRTFA
 
2014-03-27 12:00:35 AM  
And every one of them was completely justified. Just like every officer-involved shooting in Oregon for at least 15 years and the last 150+ FBI fatal shootings.
 
2014-03-27 12:01:01 AM  
Damn, so Walter White would have probably been shot in season three for having a cracked windshield and mouthing off to the cop?
 
2014-03-27 12:01:47 AM  
i1309.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-27 12:06:43 AM  
fark citizens
 
2014-03-27 12:07:14 AM  
Was this the one about the man camping illegally that drew a knife on a K-9? Cause that one went down less than ideally.
 
2014-03-27 12:07:48 AM  
For those people who are sickos or want to see the videos to justify your outrage, check out Liveleak's footage of the APD's past 2 days' worth of shootings.

*warning: contains people getting killed* 
here
and
here
 
2014-03-27 12:08:00 AM  
New Mexico still has not quite out-lived the "wild west".

/streets are dangerous on a Saturday night
 
2014-03-27 12:17:17 AM  
I guess the gun control lobby couldn't quite get them to make a left turn in Albuquerque.
 
2014-03-27 12:21:10 AM  

Makh: Except for me.
You know why?

'Cause I had my tray table up.
And my seat back in the full upright position...


Hey, you've got weasels on your face.
 
2014-03-27 12:24:37 AM  

DuudeStanky: For those people who are sickos or want to see the videos to justify your outrage, check out Liveleak's footage of the APD's past 2 days' worth of shootings.

*warning: contains people getting killed* 
here
and
here


Christ. That's brutal
 
2014-03-27 12:29:27 AM  
Really though.. It's only 1 every 66 days..
 
2014-03-27 12:33:37 AM  
Meanwhile in Germany, during 2011 police used a total of 85 bullets across the entire country, most of which were warning shots. "49 warning shots, 36 shots on suspects. 15 persons were injured, 6 were killed."

I'll leave it to others to debate if this means cops in the US are more trigger happy or if Americans are more criminal.

(whynotboth.jpg)
 
2014-03-27 12:35:49 AM  

EngineerAU: Meanwhile in Germany, during 2011 police used a total of 85 bullets across the entire country, most of which were warning shots. "49 warning shots, 36 shots on suspects. 15 persons were injured, 6 were killed."

I'll leave it to others to debate if this means cops in the US are more trigger happy or if Americans are more criminal.

(whynotboth.jpg)


Or, perhaps, that the cultures and population groups between the two nations are radically different.
 
2014-03-27 12:43:05 AM  

ciberido: Makh: Except for me.
You know why?

'Cause I had my tray table up.
And my seat back in the full upright position...

Hey, you've got weasels on your face.


Awesome.
 
2014-03-27 12:44:59 AM  

DuudeStanky: For those people who are sickos or want to see the videos to justify your outrage, check out Liveleak's footage of the APD's past 2 days' worth of shootings.

*warning: contains people getting killed*
here
and
here


If an unresponsive person is lying face first on the ground after being shot and "won't let go of his knife", what's the point of letting a dog chew on his leg?  Either A, the guy is knocked out and can't stab anyone or B has a knife in his hand that he can use to stab the dog biting his leg.

Also, I thought the reason that cops carry tasers what for dealing with situations exactly like a mentally challenged homeless guy who won't drop his knife.
 
2014-03-27 12:47:58 AM  

RogermcAllen: DuudeStanky: For those people who are sickos or want to see the videos to justify your outrage, check out Liveleak's footage of the APD's past 2 days' worth of shootings.

*warning: contains people getting killed*
here
and
here

If an unresponsive person is lying face first on the ground after being shot and "won't let go of his knife", what's the point of letting a dog chew on his leg?  Either A, the guy is knocked out and can't stab anyone or B has a knife in his hand that he can use to stab the dog biting his leg.

Also, I thought the reason that cops carry tasers what for dealing with situations exactly like a mentally challenged homeless guy who won't drop his knife.


Taser is a courtesy.
 
2014-03-27 12:51:15 AM  

EngineerAU: Meanwhile in Germany, during 2011 police used a total of 85 bullets across the entire country, most of which were warning shots. "49 warning shots, 36 shots on suspects. 15 persons were injured, 6 were killed."

I'll leave it to others to debate if this means cops in the US are more trigger happy or if Americans are more criminal.

(whynotboth.jpg)


I think the most amazing part of that statistic is that if we assume that the killed people are double counting for the injured and that "warning shots" is a bullshiat cover for missing, 15/85 shots by German police officers hit their target.  17.5% isn't too bad in my book.  If we assume warning shots are real, this jumps up to 41.7%, and if we assume that killed and injured are different people the number is even better at 58%.

We should send our cops to Germany for marksmanship training.
i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2014-03-27 12:54:57 AM  
They should just throw a net over these guys.

//  Is the rate of homicide by cops
//disproportionally great in Albuquerque?

//what's the word?  Fluky? . . Odd?
 
2014-03-27 01:06:58 AM  
"Citizens" is really stretching it. In sure the cops are shooting criminals. When they start shooting citizens, people get all pissed off.
 
2014-03-27 01:13:00 AM  

RogermcAllen: EngineerAU: Meanwhile in Germany, during 2011 police used a total of 85 bullets across the entire country, most of which were warning shots. "49 warning shots, 36 shots on suspects. 15 persons were injured, 6 were killed."

I'll leave it to others to debate if this means cops in the US are more trigger happy or if Americans are more criminal.

(whynotboth.jpg)

I think the most amazing part of that statistic is that if we assume that the killed people are double counting for the injured and that "warning shots" is a bullshiat cover for missing, 15/85 shots by German police officers hit their target.  17.5% isn't too bad in my book.  If we assume warning shots are real, this jumps up to 41.7%, and if we assume that killed and injured are different people the number is even better at 58%.

We should send our cops to Germany for marksmanship training.


Yeah. The police tend to be poor marksmen.
 
2014-03-27 01:16:26 AM  
I was just flipping past mancow and they showed this. I didn't know what I was watching and then I saw a guy die. So I've got that going for me which is nice.
 
2014-03-27 01:16:37 AM  
Yeah it's triggered a few protests and has even made APD a target for Anonymous. My entire household is going to be at a protest scheduled for Sunday at APD headquarters. I haven't seen anything like this in Albuquerque before, it's wild. Why can't my town make fark for a good reason?
 
2014-03-27 01:17:38 AM  

shtychkn: RogermcAllen: EngineerAU: Meanwhile in Germany, during 2011 police used a total of 85 bullets across the entire country, most of which were warning shots. "49 warning shots, 36 shots on suspects. 15 persons were injured, 6 were killed."

I'll leave it to others to debate if this means cops in the US are more trigger happy or if Americans are more criminal.

(whynotboth.jpg)

I think the most amazing part of that statistic is that if we assume that the killed people are double counting for the injured and that "warning shots" is a bullshiat cover for missing, 15/85 shots by German police officers hit their target.  17.5% isn't too bad in my book.  If we assume warning shots are real, this jumps up to 41.7%, and if we assume that killed and injured are different people the number is even better at 58%.

We should send our cops to Germany for marksmanship training.

Yeah. The police tend to be poor marksmen.


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2014-03-27 01:30:24 AM  
I bet police have shot and killed more citizens than that. That is, unless you think criminals aren't citizens.
 
2014-03-27 01:32:20 AM  
Yeah, the video of the homeless guy getting shot is inexcusable. When he's shot, Either he's turning to run, or turning to get down... Not a threat at all.

Before the flash grenade, it looked like he was cooperating...

Apparently he punched a female officer some other time. This looks like straight up revenge killing.

God bless America
 
2014-03-27 01:42:39 AM  
Did you know that malpractice kills 200,000 a year, yet all you farking people do is whine, biatch and moan about the small minute portion killed by police, and of those only a handful are considered reckless and unwarranted.

What is more dangerous then an encounter with a police officer? The Doctor visit, have fun.
 
2014-03-27 01:44:01 AM  

inclemency: ciberido: Makh: Except for me.
You know why?

'Cause I had my tray table up.
And my seat back in the full upright position...

Hey, you've got weasels on your face.

Awesome.


I think what he's really trying to say is "I hate sauerkraut!"
 
2014-03-27 01:46:38 AM  

Huge_Guy_Theory: Yeah it's triggered a few protests and has even made APD a target for Anonymous. My entire household is going to be at a protest scheduled for Sunday at APD headquarters. I haven't seen anything like this in Albuquerque before, it's wild. Why can't my town make fark for a good reason?


wear a vest you might really need it
 
2014-03-27 01:51:23 AM  

ThreeFootSmurf: Huge_Guy_Theory: Yeah it's triggered a few protests and has even made APD a target for Anonymous. My entire household is going to be at a protest scheduled for Sunday at APD headquarters. I haven't seen anything like this in Albuquerque before, it's wild. Why can't my town make fark for a good reason?

wear a vest you might really need it


Yeah we thought about it...

/Is a protest sign considered a weapon?
 
2014-03-27 01:55:35 AM  

Makh: Except for me.
You know why?

'Cause I had my tray table up.
And my seat back in the full upright position...


csb time

So I've just gotten home and ready to call it a day after a bit at work when my friend calls me up and says she's nearby and wants to do something because she missed out the previous day.  I'm kinda not in the mood until I remember that it's Thursday and we just got a dueling piano bar in town with no cover on Thursdays.  So I recommend, she's down, and we meet up there.

All starts out decent: couple of drinks, good natured sing along with easy songs.  She gets her go to song played and a few others played.   Then the drinks start kicking in and we start to get obscure.  We got them playing every little crazy thing we can think of: show toons, big band, jazz, blues, Tenacioud D, Johnny Cash, Royals, anything to challenge these guys.  Then all of a sudden she comes out with the part in Albuquerque that goes, 'if you'd like to make a call, please hang up and try again'.   i'm psyched because 1) would never have guessed she'd know it, and 2) its the perfect challenge.

so I write the request and throw down a buck.  The guy reads it right away as its in between songs and comments with a laugh, 'for a dollar I'll do the minute version of Albequerque'  which I took as this guy will do ALL OF ALBEQUERQUE for the right price.  I bust out ten more bucks and tell the guy that we want every last second of Albequerque.

So he does.

He gets the melody going on the piano and gets the other guy to get a drum kit going on his piano, which he does.  Then he gets started, and this guy is committed and passionate about getting this song done to perfection.

Sauerkraut part comes and he belts it out perfectly.   AHHHH BIG BOWL OF SAUERKRAUT! EVERY SINGLE MORNING!

And we were going crazy right along with him.  He gets to the big fat hermaphrodite with a flock of seagulls haircut and only one nostril and I'm narrating right along with like an idiot.  He steals a snorkel and they tussle and in the middle of it the phone gets knocked off the hook.  And when that familiar voice came around, we all sang...

IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A CALL, PLEASE HANG UP AND TRY AGAIN!  IF YOU NEED HELP HANG UP AND THEN DIAL YOUR OOOPERATOR!
IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A CALL, PLEASE HANG UP AND TRY AGAIN!  IF YOU NEED HELP HANG UP AND THEN DIAL YOUR OOOPERATOR!

Best 11 dollars ever spent in the history of ever.

/A
//L
///B
////U
////QUERQUE!
/CSB
 
2014-03-27 02:27:14 AM  

abiigdog: Did you know that malpractice kills 200,000 a year, yet all you farking people do is whine, biatch and moan about the small minute portion killed by police, and of those only a handful are considered reckless and unwarranted.

What is more dangerous then an encounter with a police officer? The Doctor visit, have fun.


Maybe malpractice and trigger-happy cops both suck? And while doctors and hospital staff are actually trying to help us when we're injured, the police continue to militarize, continue to back their own in reviews saying this shooting or that shooting was justified. Seriously, the erosion of 4th amendment rights alone is staggering without even going into excessive force.

I'd rather pay a visit to a doctor who is at least trying to help me than be visited by cop who is looking for a reason to arrest me or shoot me. I'm glad the feds are dick deep in APD, to anyone paying attention that police force needs and overhaul.
 
2014-03-27 02:29:22 AM  
Flragnararch: dueling piano csb

one time a buddy requested a "dying fetus" song for $3 and the guy said "We need at least $10 to play some dying fetus". good times.
 
2014-03-27 02:34:53 AM  

Huge_Guy_Theory: ThreeFootSmurf: Huge_Guy_Theory: Yeah it's triggered a few protests and has even made APD a target for Anonymous. My entire household is going to be at a protest scheduled for Sunday at APD headquarters. I haven't seen anything like this in Albuquerque before, it's wild. Why can't my town make fark for a good reason?

wear a vest you might really need it

Yeah we thought about it...

/Is a protest sign considered a weapon?


Is it on a stick to add height if so its a possible club
either way it has possible sharp edges being made from paper. also they could claim you were hiding a weapon behind it
 
2014-03-27 03:22:41 AM  

violentsalvation: abiigdog: Did you know that malpractice kills 200,000 a year, yet all you farking people do is whine, biatch and moan about the small minute portion killed by police, and of those only a handful are considered reckless and unwarranted.

What is more dangerous then an encounter with a police officer? The Doctor visit, have fun.

Maybe malpractice and trigger-happy cops both suck? And while doctors and hospital staff are actually trying to help us when we're injured, the police continue to militarize, continue to back their own in reviews saying this shooting or that shooting was justified. Seriously, the erosion of 4th amendment rights alone is staggering without even going into excessive force.

I'd rather pay a visit to a doctor who is at least trying to help me than be visited by cop who is looking for a reason to arrest me or shoot me. I'm glad the feds are dick deep in APD, to anyone paying attention that police force needs and overhaul.


I'm not certain it's possible to "erode" a right. It seems like rights are something which either exist or don't, rather than being circumstantial or arbitrarily whimsical. It's up for debate, but by that measure the only amendment we appear to have left from the first ten is the seventh. I'm starting to think it'd be funny if the citizenry were armed and the cops weren't. Briefly.

/And now I'll sit quietly and wait to be disappeared.
 
2014-03-27 03:56:29 AM  
A few bad apples.

A few bad apples.

A few bad apples.

A few bad apples.

A few bad apples.
 
2014-03-27 04:53:43 AM  

I thought "Wow! That's a lot of police shootings!" Then I researched and found that Albuquerque has had a

violent crime rate almost double the national average for the last ten years, probably longer.

That doesn't excuse bad shootings, but it at least explains to some degree the number of police shootings.
 
2014-03-27 05:14:19 AM  
According to this article, the APD was already under federal investigation for excessive use of force when they killed executed that homeless guy the other day.
 
2014-03-27 05:33:10 AM  
Meh.  That's what police do.  You disobey and you will be shot and killed.  You make a 'furtive' movement and you have signed your own death warrent.  Reach for a wallet to show ID?  You're dead.  They don't like the look of you?  Well, you're 'resisting' and need to die.  Run from guys dressed up like gang bangers chasing you and your psychic ability doesn't devine they are undercover cops?  Well, you're a dead man.  A group of guys kick in your door and shoot you dog while you were sleeping?  Be prepared to die.  Laying face down in handcuffs?  Well, that's a capital offense and you're going to die.

300 million guns in America.  If folks were really upset at the abuses there wouldn't be a cop or his family who wouldn't be running scared.
 
2014-03-27 06:14:33 AM  

abiigdog: Did you know that malpractice kills 200,000 a year, yet all you farking people do is whine, biatch and moan about the small minute portion killed by police, and of those only a handful are considered reckless and unwarranted.

What is more dangerous then an encounter with a police officer? The Doctor visit, have fun.


And a police-supervised doctor visit? Boy howdy!
 
2014-03-27 06:41:40 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: violentsalvation: I don't think that number is current, APD shot and killed someone last night.

That they did, for wielding a deadly cell phone.

APD wears body cameras, too.


There was an article the other day about the Fort Worth police department getting body cameras and there sure were a lot of people crying about "wasted taxpayer money" in the comments section.
 
2014-03-27 07:10:22 AM  
IIRC, the only officer involved shooting to be aired on COPS was in Albuquerque.  Bonus, the guy shot was in a wheelchair (and holding a rifle).
 
2014-03-27 07:13:49 AM  
Flragnararch: dueling piano csb

The piano player was coming back from a restroom break when I asked him, "Do you know your zipper's open and your dick is hanging out?"

He looked at me and grinned, "Know it? I wrote it!"
 
2014-03-27 07:25:58 AM  

Carousel Beast: EngineerAU: Meanwhile in Germany, during 2011 police used a total of 85 bullets across the entire country, most of which were warning shots. "49 warning shots, 36 shots on suspects. 15 persons were injured, 6 were killed."

I'll leave it to others to debate if this means cops in the US are more trigger happy or if Americans are more criminal.

(whynotboth.jpg)

Or, perhaps, that the cultures and population groups between the two nations are radically different.


In other words, cops in the US are more trigger-happy and/or Americans are more criminal?
 
2014-03-27 07:47:14 AM  

100 Watt Walrus: A few bad apples.

A few bad apples.

A few bad apples.

A few bad apples.

A few bad apples.


Manzanos Malos.
 
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