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(The Raw Story)   Old and busted: Religious pharmacists refusing to fill contraception prescriptions. New hotness: Religious notary refusing to notarize documents for an atheist   (rawstory.com) divider line 279
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2014-03-26 02:24:49 PM
WWJN
 
2014-03-26 02:30:25 PM
It is a violation of the notary public's religious beliefs to ban her from stoning the atheist to death on the spot. If we really had freedom of religion in this country, any Christian could execute atheists without fear of persecution/prosecution.

Really, this is just sad. When will American Christians finally get their rights back from this oppressive government? When will the discrimination against Christians stop?
 
2014-03-26 02:31:25 PM
Also, does anyone know how much weight the Notary Public Code of Professional Responsibility carries?

I-A-3:
Undue Cause for Refusal
The Notary shall not refuse to perform a lawful
and proper notarial act because of the signer's race,
nationality, ethnicity, citizenship, religion, politics, lifestyle,
age, disability, gender or sexual orientation, or because of
disagreement with the statements or purpose of a lawful
document.
 
2014-03-26 02:35:23 PM
Well since notarizations are an affirmation before God why would an atheist ever want something notarized?
 
2014-03-26 02:43:51 PM

drew46n2: Well since notarizations are an affirmation before God why would an atheist ever want something notarized?


When has anyone WANTED to have something notarized, it's usually a NEED sort of thing.
 
2014-03-26 02:47:11 PM

scottydoesntknow: Also, does anyone know how much weight the Notary Public Code of Professional Responsibility carries?

I-A-3:
Undue Cause for Refusal
The Notary shall not refuse to perform a lawful
and proper notarial act because of the signer's race,
nationality, ethnicity, citizenship, religion, politics, lifestyle,
age, disability, gender or sexual orientation, or because of
disagreement with the statements or purpose of a lawful
document.


No weight at all.  The authority is jurisdictional.  In this case: http://www.state.nj.us/treasury/revenue/dcr/geninfo/notarymanual.shtm l #WHAT%20ARE%20THE%20QUALIFICATIONS%20FOR%20THE%20OFFICE
 
2014-03-26 02:49:06 PM
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Don't proselytize, notarize!
 
2014-03-26 02:49:11 PM
Making a Christian notarize an Atheist's document is like forcing Jews to eat bacon cheeseburgers!
 
2014-03-26 02:51:52 PM
I'm tired of these a-holes hiding behind their religion to justify being jerks to other people.
 
2014-03-26 02:55:17 PM
Refusing to help kill unborn children is one thing but this is just stupid.
 
2014-03-26 02:55:27 PM

damageddude: I'm tired of these a-holes hiding behind their religion to justify being jerks to other people.


Welcome to the history of mankind.
 
2014-03-26 02:55:33 PM

damageddude: I'm tired of these a-holes hiding behind their religion to justify being jerks to other people.


People love a good excuse to hate.
 
2014-03-26 02:55:59 PM

scottydoesntknow: Also, does anyone know how much weight the Notary Public Code of Professional Responsibility carries?

I-A-3:
Undue Cause for Refusal
The Notary shall not refuse to perform a lawful
and proper notarial act because of the signer's race,
nationality, ethnicity, citizenship, religion, politics, lifestyle,
age, disability, gender or sexual orientation, or because of
disagreement with the statements or purpose of a lawful
document.


But but but atheism not a religion?
 
2014-03-26 02:56:46 PM
Why are they ratcheting up the crazy so much?

Is it because people are liking the ACA more?

Is it no one cares about Benghazi?

Is it that equal marriage rights are triumphing across the land?

Is it just the upcoming elections?

I'm more than a little worried.
 
2014-03-26 02:56:55 PM
scottydoesntknow:

Undue Cause for Refusal
The Notary shall not refuse to perform a lawful
and proper notarial act because of the signer's race,
nationality, ethnicity, citizenship, religion, politics, lifestyle,
age, disability, gender or sexual orientation, or because of
disagreement with the statements or purpose of a lawful
document.


Simple:  they can't refuse on the grounds of someone's religion, but can refuse on the grounds of someone's non-religion.
 
2014-03-26 02:58:52 PM
Atheism is a Religion.
 
2014-03-26 02:59:06 PM
I find atheist cash to spend just as well as fundamentalist cash.
I've never been sure about agnostic cash.
 
2014-03-26 02:59:40 PM
I'd be a lot more upset about this except for the fact that TFA says the notary went and got another notary to sign the papers. She didn't just leave them high and dry or send them to another bank, she got someone else right there. That's conscientious objection done right. It's upsetting for both parties, but the papers got signed.
 
2014-03-26 02:59:43 PM

scottydoesntknow: Also, does anyone know how much weight the Notary Public Code of Professional Responsibility carries?

I-A-3:
Undue Cause for Refusal
The Notary shall not refuse to perform a lawful
and proper notarial act because of the signer's race,
nationality, ethnicity, citizenship, religion, politics, lifestyle,
age, disability, gender or sexual orientation, or because of
disagreement with the statements or purpose of a lawful
document.


I thought athiesm wasn't a religion. Indeed, fark's athiests are quite adamant that it isn't.

So its not protected.
 
2014-03-26 02:59:49 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I find atheist cash to spend just as well as fundamentalist cash.
I've never been sure about agnostic cash.


Just don't cash the check yet.  The money may or may not be there.
 
2014-03-26 03:00:54 PM

letrole: Atheism is a Religion.



And not collecting stamps is a hobby
 
2014-03-26 03:01:24 PM
Wow that slope got slippery.
 
2014-03-26 03:01:36 PM
Meh. Amanda Knief  got some free publicity. I'd call it a wash.
 
2014-03-26 03:01:42 PM

Rattie Mattie: I'd be a lot more upset about this except for the fact that TFA says the notary went and got another notary to sign the papers. She didn't just leave them high and dry or send them to another bank, she got someone else right there. That's conscientious objection done right. It's upsetting for both parties, but the papers got signed.



Uh, she's still a first-class derping moron. Let's focus on the real issue here.
 
2014-03-26 03:01:47 PM

Arkanaut: scottydoesntknow: Also, does anyone know how much weight the Notary Public Code of Professional Responsibility carries?

I-A-3:
Undue Cause for Refusal
The Notary shall not refuse to perform a lawful
and proper notarial act because of the signer's race,
nationality, ethnicity, citizenship, religion, politics, lifestyle,
age, disability, gender or sexual orientation, or because of
disagreement with the statements or purpose of a lawful
document.


But but but atheism not a religion?


I think its more of a  disagreement with the statements or purpose of a lawful
document
  thing (which is an undue cause for refusal).
 
2014-03-26 03:01:48 PM

drew46n2: Well since notarizations are an affirmation before God why would an atheist ever want something notarized?


cdn.shopify.com
 
2014-03-26 03:01:54 PM
I used to be on the board of an atheist organization.  About a year ago we decided to get liability insurance in case somebody got hurt at one of our events.  We had a hell of a time finding any because the brokers and insurance companies kept arguing with each other and with us over whether we were a church.  One guy decided we <i>were</i> a church and thus needed to have the extra "insurance to cover child sexual abuse lawsuits" rider.  But since we were atheists and not Christians he deemed us more likely to abuse and too big of a risk and wouldn't give us a quote.  The irony was astounding.
 
2014-03-26 03:01:55 PM

genner: unborn children


uncrystallized diamond
unfermented champagne
undigested feces
 
2014-03-26 03:02:07 PM

Rattie Mattie: I'd be a lot more upset about this except for the fact that TFA says the notary went and got another notary to sign the papers. She didn't just leave them high and dry or send them to another bank, she got someone else right there. That's conscientious objection done right. It's upsetting for both parties, but the papers got signed.


So basically, this is whining, pure and simple.
 
2014-03-26 03:02:18 PM

drew46n2: letrole: Atheism is a Religion.


And not collecting stamps is a hobby


And bald is a hairstyle, or something.
 
2014-03-26 03:02:35 PM
That's rough, it's really hard to become a notary and there totally aren't tons of them out there at all. They'll never be able to find someone else qualified to put a stamp on a piece of paper.
 
2014-03-26 03:03:36 PM

Cubicle Jockey: genner: unborn children

uncrystallized diamond
unfermented champagne
undigested feces


You can argue the facts but that's what the belief is. The point is this guy doesn't have an excuse like that.
 
2014-03-26 03:04:44 PM
Remember that part in the bible where Jesus instructed his believers to shun everyone that wasn't like them?

Check-farking-mate, atheists.
 
2014-03-26 03:04:49 PM

Rattie Mattie: I'd be a lot more upset about this except for the fact that TFA says the notary went and got another notary to sign the papers. She didn't just leave them high and dry or send them to another bank, she got someone else right there. That's conscientious objection done right. It's upsetting for both parties, but the papers got signed.


This.
 
2014-03-26 03:05:36 PM
Making stereotypes work for you: Just like your shoe repair and dry cleaner, your notary should also be a Chinese person.

/money
 
2014-03-26 03:05:40 PM
Has this reached the US military yet?
 
2014-03-26 03:06:08 PM

genner: Refusing to help kill unborn children is one thing but this is just stupid.


This.
 
2014-03-26 03:06:13 PM

scottydoesntknow: Also, does anyone know how much weight the Notary Public Code of Professional Responsibility carries?


I'm so damn sick of people asking me about that code!
 
2014-03-26 03:07:02 PM
"I have been called names, threatened, hated on and all manner of ridiculed because of my atheist activism, but I think sitting in a bank and having another professional refuse to do business with me because I am an atheist was the worst slight I have ever received," she continued.

The worst slight you've ever received? Really?

She couldn't sign the documents because of 'personal reasons' and went to find another notary who was eating his lunch to come do the authentications.

Oh come the fark on. Maybe her reasons were silly and possibly even a violation of rules. But she immediately found someone else to do it in her place. So where's the real harm? And this is the worse slight you've received? fark you.
 
2014-03-26 03:07:46 PM
"rawstory"

nope.
 
2014-03-26 03:08:14 PM

PainInTheASP: Rattie Mattie: I'd be a lot more upset about this except for the fact that TFA says the notary went and got another notary to sign the papers. She didn't just leave them high and dry or send them to another bank, she got someone else right there. That's conscientious objection done right. It's upsetting for both parties, but the papers got signed.

This.


So obviously they are not busy enough to require more than one notary. Keep the one that will do the job, fire the one that refuses to do her goddamn job.
 
2014-03-26 03:08:33 PM
I bought a notary's image stamp at a yard sale for $1.

Suck it, Jesus people.
 
2014-03-26 03:08:40 PM

drew46n2: letrole: Atheism is a Religion.


And not collecting stamps is a hobby


And mute is a spoken language.
 
2014-03-26 03:08:44 PM
Does TD Bank, where the little bigot works, have anything to say about their employee's actions?
 
2014-03-26 03:09:12 PM

vernonFL: Making a Christian notarize an Atheist's document is like forcing Jews to eat bacon cheeseburgers!


I dated a Jewish girl once and she ate bacon every morning.
 
2014-03-26 03:09:50 PM

drew46n2: Well since notarizations are an affirmation before God why would an atheist ever want something notarized?


Many notarizations do no even require an oath or affirmation and even when they do, there is no reason why you can't leave "so help you God" out of the wording. I, personally never use that phrasing.

/atheist notary
 
2014-03-26 03:09:53 PM

wyldkard: drew46n2: Well since notarizations are an affirmation before God why would an atheist ever want something notarized?

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exactly
 
2014-03-26 03:11:31 PM
For fark sake people, do your farking job, stfu and get along with others.
 
Ant
2014-03-26 03:11:33 PM
Hey everybody, theist or atheist: DO YOUR FARKING JOB!!!
 
2014-03-26 03:11:36 PM

letrole: Atheism is a Religion.

drew46n2: And not collecting stamps is a hobby

Not collecting stamps, and then whining and moping and biatching on various forums about how much one hates stamps and those who collect them -- now that's a hobby


/yawn

 
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