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(Al Jazeera)   Drive a car in Los Angeles? If so, you're currently under investigation by the LAPD for a crime you may or may not commit   (america.aljazeera.com) divider line 82
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2014-03-26 01:55:56 PM
It's the NSA defense: We capture everything, just to be safe! Object? Why do you hate America?
 
2014-03-26 02:20:44 PM
it cannot release information about its automatic license plate reader program because all cars in the Los Angeles metropolitan area are under investigation

And the police wonder why people don't trust them.
 
2014-03-26 02:43:24 PM
The balls on them to actually issue this as a statement.
 
2014-03-26 03:00:23 PM
Hot damn, this means anyone and everyone they come into contact with can now refuse to cooperate with them.
 
2014-03-26 03:01:52 PM
I love living in the Panopticon
 
2014-03-26 03:03:28 PM
It's okay. There's one of these along the US border in Arizona. Stolen vehicles heading south for Mexico set it off all the time. No problem that a little bribe can't solve. A little bite.
 
2014-03-26 03:03:29 PM
i.dailymail.co.uk

I'm sure we can trust this police department not to do anything rash.
 
2014-03-26 03:04:35 PM

Yogimus: Hot damn, this means anyone and everyone they come into contact with can now refuse to cooperate with them.


Typically that is the best policy when dealing with law enforcement.  Never forget that "anything you say can and will be used against you"

Best response is "No Comment" and if they push "Under advice of counsel and pursuant to the 5th amendment I am not answering that inquiry"
 
2014-03-26 03:04:45 PM
Now I do understand what it's like to be black.
 
2014-03-26 03:05:35 PM

uber humper: Now I do understand what it's like to be black.


Enjoying your endowment?
 
2014-03-26 03:05:40 PM

GhettoWinter: The balls on them to actually issue this as a statement.


I think it is more that they honestly believe the bullshiat they are slinging.

Since it is their reality, the statement does not seem abnormal to them.
 
2014-03-26 03:06:11 PM

Yogimus: Hot damn, this means anyone and everyone they come into contact with can now refuse to cooperate with them.


You don't need to be under investigation in order to refuse to cooperate.  They only way the legal system can compell you to testify is to grant you immunity.
 
2014-03-26 03:07:45 PM

OgreMagi: Yogimus: Hot damn, this means anyone and everyone they come into contact with can now refuse to cooperate with them.

You don't need to be under investigation in order to refuse to cooperate.  They only way the legal system can compell you to testify is to grant you immunity.


Specifically being investigated offers no extra protections?
 
2014-03-26 03:08:34 PM

JohnCarter: Best response is "No Comment" and if they push "Under advice of counsel and pursuant to the 5th amendment I am not answering that inquiry"


Since SCOTUS recently ruled that you give up your rights if you don't actively invoke them, just START with that latter.  That way there can never be a question of, "Well, you waited too long to invoke the 5th, so it doesn't apply".

Investigation without probable cause will see this practice challenged.
 
2014-03-26 03:09:06 PM
Drive a car in LA?

you mean sit in an idling car in traffic.
 
2014-03-26 03:10:13 PM

slykens1: GhettoWinter: The balls on them to actually issue this as a statement.

I think it is more that they honestly believe the bullshiat they are slinging.

Since it is their reality, the statement does not seem abnormal to them.


You're absolutely right.  In their eyes anything that makes their jobs easier is a good thing. In reality I think police work should be difficult.

If this isn't unconstitutional I don't know what is.
 
2014-03-26 03:10:43 PM

JohnCarter: uber humper: Now I do understand what it's like to be black.

Enjoying your endowment?


I haven't got that far yet. I think I'll take my new swagger out tonight and see if I can try it out. Try it on for size, as they say
 
2014-03-26 03:11:08 PM
So that's what those things are on pretty much every cop car in Georgia.
 
2014-03-26 03:12:17 PM
Reductionism is the only evil.
 
2014-03-26 03:12:53 PM

JohnCarter: uber humper: Now I do understand what it's like to be black.

Enjoying your endowment?


Now, let's not resort to physical, racial stereotypes.
 
2014-03-26 03:12:58 PM
What does this mean for the A-Team?
 
2014-03-26 03:13:34 PM
We have to keep the Bieber's and Lohan's off the road.
 
2014-03-26 03:15:39 PM
I'm sure a judge is going to be excited that his personal car is suspicious and under investigation.
 
2014-03-26 03:19:28 PM
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2014-03-26 03:22:04 PM

Yogimus: OgreMagi: Yogimus: Hot damn, this means anyone and everyone they come into contact with can now refuse to cooperate with them.

You don't need to be under investigation in order to refuse to cooperate.  They only way the legal system can compell you to testify is to grant you immunity.

Specifically being investigated offers no extra protections?


Nope.  Our Rights aren't there to protect criminals.  They are there for everyone, both the innocent and the guilty.

My GED in law says so.
 
2014-03-26 03:22:52 PM
 1972 a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the A-Team
 
2014-03-26 03:25:02 PM

GonzoNihilist: [media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com image 720x623]


Congress stole my duck whistles? Assholes!
 
2014-03-26 03:25:05 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: It's okay. There's one of these along the US border in Arizona. Stolen vehicles heading south for Mexico set it off all the time. No problem that a little bribe can't solve. A little bite.


The word you're looking for is "mordita."
 
2014-03-26 03:26:01 PM
please, we've had ALPR active in Western Canada since 2007.  Get your own crisis, L.A.
 
2014-03-26 03:27:21 PM
Seems like a necessary step for the LAPD... hopefully it will prevent them from shooting up cars that do not match the make or color of the suspected vehicle they are after.

/hopefully :/
 
2014-03-26 03:28:22 PM
ANPR is CCTV. Searchable CCTV, but that's all folks. Don't let the trolls convince you otherwise.
 
2014-03-26 03:29:31 PM
it can tell which people are handicapped so the police know who to beat up without getting hurt.
 
2014-03-26 03:29:53 PM

olapbill: please, we've had ALPR active in Western Canada since 2007.  Get your own crisis, L.A.


Just because you're comfortable with something, doesn't mean that others are.
 
2014-03-26 03:30:19 PM
Too be fair, everyone in LA is probably guilty of something.
 
2014-03-26 03:30:49 PM

JohnCarter: uber humper: Now I do understand what it's like to be black.

Enjoying your endowment?


I thought all black people were poor, no?
 
2014-03-26 03:33:56 PM

GhettoWinter: slykens1: GhettoWinter: The balls on them to actually issue this as a statement.

I think it is more that they honestly believe the bullshiat they are slinging.

Since it is their reality, the statement does not seem abnormal to them.

You're absolutely right.  In their eyes anything that makes their jobs easier is a good thing. In reality I think police work should be difficult.

If this isn't unconstitutional I don't know what is.


How so?  What expectation of privacy do you have out in public?  None.

Why do you think they blow all that money making those metal rectangles you hang off the front & back of your car?  So kids can play license plate bingo?  It's to make your car readily identifiable.

Now, the excuse they use for not disclosing how the data is used is laughable, and I suspect a Court will eventually force them to turn that information over, but it's not unconstitutional.
 
2014-03-26 03:34:27 PM

acohn: JohnCarter: uber humper: Now I do understand what it's like to be black.

Enjoying your endowment?

I thought all black people were poor, no?


Only the poor black people are poor. The rest aren't.
 
2014-03-26 03:35:06 PM
I think this was the plot of Tom Cruise's Big Gay Sci-Fi Movie, wasn't it?
 
2014-03-26 03:37:20 PM
It was my understanding that only hatless individuals are suspects.
 
2014-03-26 03:38:43 PM
That pie chart makes it look like the Police are just snitches for car insurance companies.
 
2014-03-26 03:40:33 PM
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Pick up that can.
 
2014-03-26 03:40:44 PM

JohnCarter: Yogimus: Hot damn, this means anyone and everyone they come into contact with can now refuse to cooperate with them.

Typically that is the best policy when dealing with law enforcement.  Never forget that "anything you say can and will be used against you"

Best response is "No Comment" and if they push "Under advice of counsel and pursuant to the 5th amendment I am not answering that inquiry"


So does that make you counsel?
 
2014-03-26 03:42:00 PM
Um, people?  There was a CRIME committed there, in LA, there, and the suspect may or may not have used a car before, during the commission of, or after that CRIME.  I think it's EXTREMELY important that we cooperate FULLY with the police there, so that they can investigate that crime completely.  We know they wouldn't abuse this power, because they know that there are special committees to investigate THEM if they try.
 
2014-03-26 03:42:06 PM
How long before private crowd-sourced ALPR becomes popular? Would be pretty easy to take the road rage to someone's home after they cut you off.
 
2014-03-26 03:42:25 PM
Hiding in plain sight.

dl.dropboxusercontent.com
 
2014-03-26 03:43:15 PM

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: I think this was the plot of Tom Cruise's Big Gay Sci-Fi Movie, wasn't it?


Can you narrow that down a bit?  Kind of a wide brush we're painting with there.

/yes, I know which movie you mean, but let's be honest about the description
 
2014-03-26 03:45:31 PM

olapbill: please, we've had ALPR active in Western Canada since 2007.  Get your own crisis, L.A.


Next time Canada catches up to some of America's asshattery, see if you like this argument.

Not sure if you know, but there's a mad hatter who only uses asses running around the U.S.:

i.cdn.turner.com
 
2014-03-26 03:46:09 PM
The LAPD is in so much trouble right now, I doubt they'll be scanning many license plates.
 
2014-03-26 03:47:10 PM

lunkhed: ANPR is CCTV. Searchable CCTV, but that's all folks. Don't let the trolls convince you otherwise.


Searchable and MOBILE.

It's cool though. my insurance is paid up, and I obey all the laws.  I got nothing to hide.
 
2014-03-26 03:48:39 PM
Well you could walk, but . . . . . .

NOBODY WALKS IN L.A.
 
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