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(USA Today)   Asinine: WV girl forced out of Christian school because school administrators felt that her dress and behavior were too butch and did not "follow suit with her God-ordained {gender} identity," Fark: She is EIGHT years old. God hates..Tomboys? Really?   (usatoday.com) divider line 54
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2014-03-26 12:19:57 PM  
13 votes:
We believe that unless Sunnie as well as her family clearly understand that God has made her female and her dress and behavior need to follow suit with her God-ordained indentity, that TCS is not the best place for her future education."

This girl is being taught to express herself however she wishes, rather than what a fictional book instructs.  They're not wrong, TCS is definitely not the best place for her future education.
2014-03-26 11:34:21 AM  
12 votes:
SO they want her to "conform to her Gender identity" eh?  Well since these folks hold the Bible is literally true and infalliable too, maybe it would be okay if she say like Judith, beheads an enemy king and puts his head on a spike, or drives a tent stake through the head of an enemy general like Jael, or even leads armies into battle and becomes a ruler of a nation like Deborah?
2014-03-26 12:24:50 PM  
9 votes:
Family values, folks!

Shun people - children, even - for being themselves and not having done anything to hurt anyone, ever. May as well teach that people with a certain color of eyes or hair are abominations and shun them. I hate to think how many gay children of fundie wackjobs kill themselves after being told repeatedly that people like them are unnatural abominations. Family values indeed.
2014-03-26 12:20:35 PM  
8 votes:
Blessing in disguise.  Send her somewhere where she will actually learn something.
2014-03-26 12:21:13 PM  
7 votes:
Meh, its a private school.  What do you expect if you send your children to some fundamentalist baptist farktard training camp.
2014-03-26 12:37:42 PM  
6 votes:

i2.cdn.turner.com

"Sometimes the Bible in the hand of one man is worse than a whisky bottle in the hand of (another)... There are just some kind of men who - who're so busy worrying about the next world they've never learned to live in this one, and you can look down the street and see the results."

2014-03-26 01:08:06 PM  
4 votes:
What a tomboy MIGHT look like
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2014-03-26 12:22:44 PM  
4 votes:

lennavan: We believe that unless Sunnie as well as her family clearly understand that God has made her female and her dress and behavior need to follow suit with her God-ordained indentity, that TCS is not the best place for her future education."

This girl is being taught to express herself however she wishes, rather than what a fictional book instructs.  They're not wrong, TCS is definitely not the best place for her future education.


Beat me to it...
"TCS is not the best place for her future education."
Best thing that could've happened to her...
2014-03-26 09:55:19 AM  
4 votes:
"western Virginia" Subby, not West Virginia.
2014-03-26 01:03:25 PM  
3 votes:
Lynchburg ain't West Virginia. It's not even Western VA by most folks' standards -- it's pretty much the center of Central Va.

But culturally, and especially theologically, it tends to run with the much deeper South.

Think Jerry Falwell. Think Liberty University. Yeah, that Lynchburg.

Not that everybody there follows this line -- just that there are an awful lot of people who do.

The scary thing (one of many) is that this school has been chugging along on this set of standards for a very, very long time -- nearly 50 years. It makes me sad to think of all the kids they've messed up during that time.

/Lynchburg public schools actually treated me pretty well
//outlier
2014-03-26 12:58:03 PM  
3 votes:
Ah. I'm completely a woman, would never want to be anything else, married to a man, and I enjoy female clothing as well as "men's" clothing, the latter especially when I'm hiking, hunting, and fishing and doing other stuff I excel at that is apparently is only for men, because it tends to hold up better for a more reasonable price.

Apparently you're not a girl if you don't wear frilly dresses everyday. fark this school. Has nothing to do with religion, these people are just assholes.
2014-03-26 12:27:29 PM  
3 votes:
Aaahh conservatives. How do you manage to be such epic assholes? How do you do it?
2014-03-26 12:27:28 PM  
3 votes:

kregh99: Blessing in disguise.  Send her somewhere where she will actually learn something.


Yep. Maybe she'll figure out early just how pants-on-head-retarded fundie beliefs really are. The Christian right is just a somewhat nicer version of the Taliban.
2014-03-26 11:58:49 AM  
3 votes:
Joan of Arc would have kicked their pansy asses for them
2014-03-26 12:54:38 PM  
2 votes:
Not saying the school isn't nuts.  But guardian decided to send the girl to fanatical religious school.

Private school.  Attendance by choice.  Non-story.
2014-03-26 12:45:51 PM  
2 votes:

Claude Ballse: [i2.cdn.turner.com image 270x360]"Sometimes the Bible in the hand of one man is worse than a whisky bottle in the hand of (another)... There are just some kind of men who - who're so busy worrying about the next world they've never learned to live in this one, and you can look down the street and see the results."


Came for Scout, leaving happy.
2014-03-26 12:41:47 PM  
2 votes:

Nutsac_Jim: The child goes to a psychiatrist for her gender issues, so it is clearly not just a case of being a tom-boy.


Obviously you've done some independent research as this wasn't in TFA.

I'm going to take the road the ITGs usually take about HOAs here:

They signed the paperwork accepting the school's policies on issues such as dress and behavior before they were allowed to enroll the child in the school.  If what her guardians have allowed her to do (and it is their decision because she is 8) is in violation of the school's published policies, then the school had the right to take action.

BTW, the school didn't kick her out.  They sent a letter stating what they expected of her in order for her to remain enrolled.  Her guardians removed her from the school and then went to the Farking press to drum up support, thus enraging the ZOMGtheChristianRIghtisBad crowd. They've even said they don't want to send her back to the school, so they are just stirring up trouble. The responses here are proof that you fell for it.  Congratulations, you are sheeple.
2014-03-26 12:33:18 PM  
2 votes:
This little one has so much going on at 8... her grandparents adopted her, she's questioning her gender identity and seeing a counselor and being told that if she doesn't conform she has to go. She cries everyday to be reunited with her friends.

She must be feeling so overwhelmed and isolated, if there was a candidate for the Trevor Project, I think it's Sunnie.

I hope she comes through this and is stronger than she was before.

/Go HER!
2014-03-26 12:31:47 PM  
2 votes:
Just give her a My Little Pony lunch box. Problem solved.
2014-03-26 12:31:39 PM  
2 votes:
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2014-03-26 12:31:01 PM  
2 votes:

lilplatinum: Meh, its a private school.  What do you expect if you send your children to some fundamentalist baptist farktard training camp.


About 20 minutes east of where I live it's gets rural as fark. The options for parents are reeaaaally shiatty public schools, or decent private, Christian schools. The people I know that live in that area hate having to send their kids to a religious school, but I they want their snowflake to get a decent education, it's the lesser of two evils.

Or they buy/rent a trailer/apartment/condo in the town I live in and send them to one of the best school systems* in the state. Too bad that option isn't very viable for most people in rural areas.

/*At least it was until the suburbanites threw a fit over consolidating with Memphis City Schools and decided to break away and form their own school district. Still waiting to see how it's going to turn out.
//Whitey in the suburb don't want their precious snowflakes to go to school with those, what's the code word these days? Poors? Inner city thugs?
///Slashies come in threes
2014-03-26 12:30:52 PM  
2 votes:
The kid has a variety of interests and doesn't care that "only boys can do that"? There's one little girl who'll be a productive member of society, and  thus one more powerful person who the fundies will not have support from.
How about you start shooting your other foot now, Church.
2014-03-26 12:28:28 PM  
2 votes:
Good.

Kid will be much better off in public school that in one of those brainwashing nightmare places.
2014-03-26 12:27:02 PM  
2 votes:
Although this case is stupid, i wish more kids would be expelled. Instead, bullying and bullshiat are okay because each enrollee is sweet sweet revenue stream for the school/district.
2014-03-26 12:26:04 PM  
2 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Joan of Arc would have kicked their pansy asses for them


Not a good example. Joan of Arc was burned at the stake by a bunch of good, pious followers of Christ for the crime of being so uppity.
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2014-03-26 12:26:02 PM  
2 votes:
Christ:  What an asshole.
2014-03-26 12:25:57 PM  
2 votes:

antidumbass: Good on the parents. They may learn a valuable internet lesson (and life lesson) from this.


not unless they're moving out of WV.
2014-03-26 12:21:55 PM  
2 votes:
I totally remember that part in the Bible, where Jesus said to the little girl "Get thee away from me, biatch, until thou exchangest thy pants for a frock."
2014-03-26 12:20:43 PM  
2 votes:
We believe that unless Sunnie as well as her family clearly understand that God has made her female and her dress and behavior need to follow suit with her God-ordained indentity, derp derp derp

Doesn't she know she's a baby making machine?
/eight year olds dude
2014-03-26 04:19:07 PM  
1 votes:

ciberido: Satan's Bunny Slippers: mistrmind: Satan's Bunny Slippers: mistrmind: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Will the Christianist Right burn itself out?  Or will they rip asunder this country?

I think Obama and his looney-left crowd have been doing an awesome of destroying our country.

Well you think the teatards are gaining ground too, so there's that.

Boy, there is no love like Liberal love.

Yeah, too bad I'm not a liberal.

saaawing and a misss!

You've been know to express tolerance of homosexuals and even compassion in other Fark threads.  That's pretty damning evidence, for some people.


Sadly, this is too true.

Not damning everything the President does = "OMG YOU LIBERAL OBAMACAWKSUCKER"

sigh

I'm actually VERY moderate.  But will never ever vote R again in my lifetime. So hopefully at least 9 more presidential elections for sure.
2014-03-26 03:46:40 PM  
1 votes:

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Private school means they can have all the crazy rules they want. Don't like it? Don't go. This is still, somewhat, a free country.


As "this is still, somewhat, a free country" people have every right to critixise such institutions for their decisions.

I always love the "I have the right to do this, stop criticizing me" arguments.
2014-03-26 01:55:45 PM  
1 votes:
 And Republicans want to direct public funds to these schools.
2014-03-26 01:43:03 PM  
1 votes:
1.  Send kid to batshat crazy religious school
2.  Get mad when batshat crazy religious school acts batshat crazy
3.  ????
4.  Profit?

This story shouldn't even be news.  The only newsworthy issue here is that there are stupid people out there who are actually surprised when fundamental religious types act all fundamental.
2014-03-26 01:35:56 PM  
1 votes:
The private school has the right to tell the parents the child must conform to their particular dress code, be it ordained by the writings in the Bible or a daily set of Mickey Mouse ears.  The family equally has the right to tell the school to get stuffed and make another arrangement for the child's education.

The paternal grandmother of my grandkids (my daughter's mother in law) attempted to enroll the grandson in a private Christian school.  They refused him admission until he got a hair cut.  Paternal grandmother called me, asking how to handle it.  "If he doesn't want to cut his hair, find a different school" was my answer.

My mother tried to enroll me in a private Pentecostal school when I was a kid.  I lasted all of three days because i refused to wear dresses.
2014-03-26 01:31:12 PM  
1 votes:
Ahh legalists ...making Christianity look bad since the first Pharisee to pick a fight with Jesus.
2014-03-26 01:22:09 PM  
1 votes:

MooseBayou: What a tomboy MIGHT look like
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Holy COW the shopping on that pic!  Where are her hips? Why is her chest lopsided?
2014-03-26 01:05:37 PM  
1 votes:

Beautiful_Geek: Explodo: I wish I knew what was up with the seeming increase in right-wing nutjobbery of the past couple of decades.  I really wish they'd go away and we could have some live-and-let-live.

Nut jobbers From the right and the left


Yes... because in the last few decades... this would totally have been appropriate in a PUBLIC school as well.
There is a lot more going on here than just the length of her hair.

a CHRISTIAN SCHOOL telling a girls parents if she doesn't conform to her role a little bit... (ie.. dress SOMEWHAT like a girl and stop running around trying to have girlfriends...) then perhaps a Christian school is not where she should be...
and suddenly CHRISTIANS are the nutjobs.
it's stupid like this that makes my day :)
2014-03-26 01:02:16 PM  
1 votes:
Just sexy her up.
Send her to pageant school.
Teach her how to act like a little attention whore, or just a whore.
That's what you farking dead-guy-on-a-stick lickers like, right?
Dress her up like a little whore and tell her how pretty she is.
Groom her for her life as a happy little homemaker and teach her how to stay barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen, where the little slut for jesus belongs. Teach her to be subservient to men who judge and choose who may or may not be part of your religion because they have whims, and urges. That's how your little babby raping racket works, right?
2014-03-26 01:01:49 PM  
1 votes:

ginandbacon: "western Virginia" Subby, not West Virginia.


also... "PULLED OUT BY HER GRANDPARENTS... "  not forced.
//also ... per the school admins... there is a lot more in the story than just the length of her hair.

but keep farkin' that chicken :)
2014-03-26 01:00:52 PM  
1 votes:

Explodo: I wish I knew what was up with the seeming increase in right-wing nutjobbery of the past couple of decades.  I really wish they'd go away and we could have some live-and-let-live.


Nut jobbers From the right and the left
2014-03-26 12:55:27 PM  
1 votes:

mistrmind: Satan's Bunny Slippers: mistrmind: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Will the Christianist Right burn itself out?  Or will they rip asunder this country?

I think Obama and his looney-left crowd have been doing an awesome of destroying our country.

Well you think the teatards are gaining ground too, so there's that.

Boy, there is no love like Liberal love.


Boy, there is no hypocrisy like Conservative hypocrisy.
2014-03-26 12:50:37 PM  
1 votes:

fruitloop: CheekyMonkey: I totally remember that part in the Bible, where Jesus said to the little girl "Get thee away from me, biatch, until thou exchangest thy pants for a frock."

Actually, He kind of did say that.

Deuteronomy 22:5 - "The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God."

/Matthew 5:17
//it's bullshiat


However,  all the other "sumptuary laws" of Deuteronomy are pretty widely ignored (to say nothing of how fluid those definitions of appropriate dress for various genders have been across time and cultures).    and the Christian Fundie explanation for why they pick and choose which parts of  Deuteronomy to follow (seeing as how the whole thing is supposed to be "inerrant") is that somehow a weird acid trip Peter had in Acts means that all the old Jewish laws are repealed unless they can find a bible passage in the New testament basically "re-upping" them, (so the whole God hates gays things is okay because Paul mentions it while condemning the basic sexual immorality of Nero's court).  I bet they can't find any anti-cross-dressing bits in the NT
2014-03-26 12:44:17 PM  
1 votes:
What's the problem here? The girl will be better off in a non religious school. Kids move away from friends all the time and get over it. In the long term getting out of that environment will be much better for her. Staying there will cause far more issues down the road.
2014-03-26 12:41:21 PM  
1 votes:
If this was a public school, I'd side with the family but it's a private school so I side with the private school even though I am not religious and think their rules are silly, it is still their right to set their own silly rules. The family knew the rules when they signed her up.
There's a bit more information in this article:
http://globalnews.ca/news/1231597/religious-school-tells-tomboy-to-d re ss-like-a-girl/

I am getting tired of news articles where reporters aren't asking the obvious questions.
Why is she seeing professional counseling for identity/image issues at age 8? I don't think the grandparents are telling the whole story - that doesn't sound like the kid is just a tomboy. I was a tomboy as a kid, actually even now as an adult I often enjoy tomboy stuff more than girly stuff but I do love to go for facials, manicures, pedicures and wearing skirts in nice weather - cooler than pants.
Why did her grandparents have to adopt her - what happened to her parents?
2014-03-26 12:34:19 PM  
1 votes:

Riche: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Joan of Arc would have kicked their pansy asses for them

Not a good example. Joan of Arc was burned at the stake by a bunch of good, pious followers of Christ for the crime of being so uppity.


I'll need to double check, but iirc part of the evidence against her was her wearing men's clothing.
2014-03-26 12:33:59 PM  
1 votes:
Ah, Christians. Always so Christ-like....

/in Opposite World!
2014-03-26 12:33:14 PM  
1 votes:

Nutsac_Jim: The child goes to a psychiatrist for her gender issues, so it is clearly not just a case of being a tom-boy.


I didn't see that in the article, but if that is the case, good for her grandparent.  However, I was more expecting to read the family is trying to pray away the evil, since it is a fundamentalist private school.
2014-03-26 12:30:46 PM  
1 votes:

CheekyMonkey: How big is her penis are her tits?


/hell, express....

cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com

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2014-03-26 12:27:48 PM  
1 votes:

lennavan: We believe that unless Sunnie as well as her family clearly understand that God has made her female and her dress and behavior need to follow suit with her God-ordained indentity, that TCS is not the best place for her future education."

This girl is being taught to express herself however she wishes, rather than what a fictional book instructs.  They're not wrong, TCS is definitely not the best place for her future education.


Yeah. That's what I think every time something like this comes up: "Why would you want to continue sending your kid there? They saved you the trouble of finding out they are human shiat AFTER you've already wasted a lot of time there."
2014-03-26 12:27:23 PM  
1 votes:

mistrmind: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Will the Christianist Right burn itself out?  Or will they rip asunder this country?

I think Obama and his looney-left crowd have been doing an awesome of destroying our country.


Well you think the teatards are gaining ground too, so there's that.
2014-03-26 12:27:19 PM  
1 votes:

lilplatinum: Meh, its a private school.  What do you expect if you send your children to some fundamentalist baptist farktard training camp.


Where no doubt they live in terror of "Sharia-type training schools being formed  RIGHT HERE in 'Murca!"
2014-03-26 12:26:01 PM  
1 votes:
Do not read the yahell comments on this if you value what's left of your sanity.


DON'T DO IT!!!!
2014-03-26 12:24:07 PM  
1 votes:
The child goes to a psychiatrist for her gender issues, so it is clearly not just a case of being a tom-boy.
2014-03-26 11:14:46 AM  
1 votes:
I was like, "Volkswagen girl? What the hell is a Volkswagen girl?"
 
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