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(Washington Post)   3 Secret Service agents sent home from Obama's European trip after a night of heavy drinking. Unclear if their parents were also called, and whether they are facing Saturday detention when they get back   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 38
    More: Asinine, Secret Service, Saturday detention, Obama, alcoholisms, United States Secret Service, Netherlands, espionages, Ed Donovan  
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2014-03-26 01:50:07 PM
Well at least they didnt have any hookers like Columbia.
 
2014-03-26 01:50:29 PM
They should have got their service a little more secretly.
 
2014-03-26 01:54:29 PM
So has there always been a drinking culture like this at secret service, or are we seeing chickens come home to roost in the fact that the ex-military ex-SF types who have the Ideal resume for this kind of work are now Iraq and Afghan war combat vets dealing with nasty cases of un-diagnosed PTSD?
 
2014-03-26 01:55:25 PM
They are supposed to maintain an air of tactical professionalism.  This is a little embarrassing.

I wonder, do they think they're untouchable because of their occupation?  It's not easy to get on Presidential detail, and I would have thought that the filtration process would have weeded out such poor decision makers.
 
2014-03-26 01:56:52 PM
Will they have to write an essay at Saturday detention about who they are?
 
2014-03-26 02:13:42 PM

airsupport: They are supposed to maintain an air of tactical professionalism.


It's just me, but I suspect the high stress of the job, coupled with a mindset that you must take a bullet for the Pres, might be a tad too much for some people.  Personally, I'd rather have them drinking in public than shooting smack in private.
 
2014-03-26 02:27:14 PM
Armed, drunk and passed out in a hotel hallway is no way to go through life, son.
 
2014-03-26 02:30:45 PM
He was just checking the hallway rug for landmines.
 
2014-03-26 02:34:56 PM

Magorn: So has there always been a drinking culture like this at secret service, or are we seeing chickens come home to roost in the fact that the ex-military ex-SF types who have the Ideal resume for this kind of work are now Iraq and Afghan war combat vets dealing with nasty cases of un-diagnosed PTSD?


I think it is an always the case thing, and there is a general theme about government employees amok. Werent there some who tried to skip out on paying hookers? It was the abuse part (having the gun by the bed, not paying for services rendered) that was a bigger issue than getting a hooker while overseas.

In any case, i think it shows good discipline on the Obama administration's part. Things should be dialed back a bit right now.
 
2014-03-26 02:36:07 PM
Am I in before in the line of fire?
 
2014-03-26 02:37:58 PM

Magorn: So has there always been a drinking culture like this at secret service, or are we seeing chickens come home to roost in the fact that the ex-military ex-SF types who have the Ideal resume for this kind of work are now Iraq and Afghan war combat vets dealing with nasty cases of un-diagnosed PTSD?


Not many of these guys are ex-military or ex-SF types.  Most of them went to some dip-shiat college, got a degree in Criminal Justice, worked a couple of years as a uniformed police officer, then applied to the USSS.   The reality of these jobs isn't nearly as awesome as the mystique.
 
2014-03-26 02:43:07 PM

indy_kid: It's just me, but I suspect the high stress of the job, coupled with a mindset that you must take a bullet for the Pres, might be a tad too much for some people.  Personally, I'd rather have them drinking in public than shooting smack in private.


In the history of the secret service: How many SS agents have taken a bullet meant for the president and how many presidents have taken a bullet?
 
2014-03-26 02:45:42 PM
In elementary school we were told that a Secret Service agent was going to be a guest speaker. We knew thats who guarded the President so we were quite excited. He went on about the fraud, conterfeiting money and all the other crap they do. He really couldn't offer much about what we wanted to hear which  was about the President. We were let down and looking back it sounds like a really boring job if you're not on that special detail.
 
2014-03-26 03:00:38 PM
If you take on the bull then you will get the horns.
 
2014-03-26 03:01:10 PM

telejester: Magorn: So has there always been a drinking culture like this at secret service, or are we seeing chickens come home to roost in the fact that the ex-military ex-SF types who have the Ideal resume for this kind of work are now Iraq and Afghan war combat vets dealing with nasty cases of un-diagnosed PTSD?

Not many of these guys are ex-military or ex-SF types.  Most of them went to some dip-shiat college, got a degree in Criminal Justice, worked a couple of years as a uniformed police officer, then applied to the USSS.   The reality of these jobs isn't nearly as awesome as the mystique.


Most of USSS I would tend to agree with you. I see these guys on a daily basis and not terribly impressed.  The Boys in the CAT? (counter assault team) they tend to be a bit more elite.   When I worked for Treasury,  I had a close encounter in a stairwell at Main Treasury (1500 Pennslyvania avenue) with the White House roof snipers coming off their shift.  Those guys were pretty....imposing, and it was more than just the Barrett's they had over their shoulders
 
2014-03-26 03:12:58 PM
If I was involved with this Administration, I'd drink myself into a stupor as well.
 
2014-03-26 03:14:15 PM
Modern journalistic writing: you take three subjects, write a coherent story on each subject in paragraphs, shuffle all paragraphs of all three stories, top off with an open-ended intro, et voila: article.
 
2014-03-26 03:21:21 PM
Probably more affective drunk
 
2014-03-26 03:24:55 PM
To live and die in LA
 
2014-03-26 03:26:21 PM
They must think their jobs are a big joke.
 
2014-03-26 03:28:23 PM

Magorn: So has there always been a drinking culture like this at secret service, or are we seeing chickens come home to roost in the fact that the ex-military ex-SF types who have the Ideal resume for this kind of work are now Iraq and Afghan war combat vets dealing with nasty cases of un-diagnosed PTSD?


it has always been the case, but in the past they were more circumspect in their partying ways. I have heard many, MANY, stories from former USSS members about what went down at some of their soirees.
 
2014-03-26 03:29:31 PM
I can't believe these guys keep doing this stuff, and keep getting caught.

I'm guessing they love partying in towns where nobody knows them because they can kick anyone's ass in the club.
 
2014-03-26 03:57:19 PM

studebaker hoch: I can't believe these guys keep doing this stuff, and keep getting caught.

I'm guessing they love partying in towns where nobody knows them because they can kick anyone's ass in the club.


There are rumors that people with security clearances get ruffied all the time. Rumors.
 
2014-03-26 04:08:43 PM
most of these are college boys
under clinton there was always the threat of hillary fraggin you for the smallest thing
they started to get all screwy under bush
at the olympics in utah,
 lost a couple for partying with under age girls
a couple for losing radios that were still keyed for the freq, and kids got a hold of them
a couple for leaving emergency plans for the VP including secondary escape routs and rendezvous points
..at a food vendor.
I think that now when they are in great favor and almost untouchable
they are behaving as the college kids who have been filled with the belief that they are above the laws
and without any learned respect for this power
 
2014-03-26 04:12:38 PM

Salmon: Probably more affective drunk


It could be. There is no reason that people in the secret service can't be angry drunks.
 
2014-03-26 04:18:26 PM
Could this be an effect of putting the Secret Service under the control of Homeland Security rather than the Treasury Dept.?

In the past, I've seen people speak out about how poor a job HS was handling the President's protection in comparison - it seems that 10 years seems about the right amount of time for the cracks to be showing, as people originally tasked with the President's security were phased out and replaced with people from HS (Assuming that, as control shifted, the those directly in charge were brought along from Treasury to Homeland Security)
 
2014-03-26 04:18:47 PM
Breakfast Club.
 
2014-03-26 04:28:28 PM

Magorn: So has there always been a drinking culture like this at secret service, or are we seeing chickens come home to roost in the fact that the ex-military ex-SF types who have the Ideal resume for this kind of work are now Iraq and Afghan war combat vets dealing with nasty cases of un-diagnosed PTSD?


According to my dad, they are drinking and whoring because that's what their boss does. I mean, he's black, right?

/my family is lots of fun
 
2014-03-26 05:19:37 PM

Magorn: So has there always been a drinking culture like this at secret service, or are we seeing chickens come home to roost in the fact that the ex-military ex-SF types who have the Ideal resume for this kind of work are now Iraq and Afghan war combat vets dealing with nasty cases of un-diagnosed PTSD?


To be fair, most of us would be drinking heavily having to be around Obama for extended periods.
 
2014-03-26 07:43:35 PM
Secret Service is making TSA look like professionals.

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2014-03-26 07:46:08 PM
I can't understand shiat-for-brains like this secret service agent. In today's economy, where Ph.Ds are working at Starbucks, this farker had a damn good job. Good pay, healthcare, defined benefit pension....things that most Americans once had, but few in the private sector can get now. So what does numbnutz do? He flings it all into the toilet, acting like a 19 year old frat boy. Un-farking-believable.
 
2014-03-26 08:43:33 PM
Why can't they just go to a sex club and/or coffee shop like everyone else who goes to A'dam?
 
2014-03-26 09:35:01 PM
TheShavingofOccam123

There are rumors that people with security clearances get ruffied all the time. Rumors.

Did you learn nothing in high school?  Watch your drink.

I'm really surprised that someone in the field protecting the president does anything other than eat, sleep, and protect the president.  There are hostile states working to defeat these guys.  I can't believe they would screw around at all.
 
2014-03-26 09:58:53 PM
People in high-stress low paying jobs like to party. Film at 11.

CSB: dad was a college town cop when VP came through. USSS were all business and intimidating. Day after VP left dad had to go handle a noise complaint at a hotel where the Secret Service guys were throwing a party that put the frats to shame, college girls and all.
 
2014-03-26 10:08:47 PM

BalugaJoe: If you take on the bull then you will get the horns.


Came here for this....leaving satisfied.
 
2014-03-26 11:20:46 PM

thehobbes: People in high-stress low paying jobs like to party. Film at 11.

CSB: dad was a college town cop when VP came through. USSS were all business and intimidating. Day after VP left dad had to go handle a noise complaint at a hotel where the Secret Service guys were throwing a party that put the frats to shame, college girls and all.


Low pay?  WTF?  Secret Service Agents start at $50K and top out at $130K, and that's base pay.
 
2014-03-26 11:36:30 PM

Fissile: thehobbes: People in high-stress low paying jobs like to party. Film at 11.

CSB: dad was a college town cop when VP came through. USSS were all business and intimidating. Day after VP left dad had to go handle a noise complaint at a hotel where the Secret Service guys were throwing a party that put the frats to shame, college girls and all.

Low pay?  WTF?  Secret Service Agents start at $50K and top out at $130K, and that's base pay.


Look at the area of the country they live. $50k in D.C. area.
 
2014-03-27 10:18:57 AM

thehobbes: Fissile: thehobbes: People in high-stress low paying jobs like to party. Film at 11.

CSB: dad was a college town cop when VP came through. USSS were all business and intimidating. Day after VP left dad had to go handle a noise complaint at a hotel where the Secret Service guys were throwing a party that put the frats to shame, college girls and all.

Low pay?  WTF?  Secret Service Agents start at $50K and top out at $130K, and that's base pay.

Look at the area of the country they live. $50k in D.C. area.


STARTING PAY IS $50K.  What part of "starting pay" don't you understand?  The guys protecting the prez didn't get hired last week.
 
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