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(World Review)   Trouble in Ukraine is causing problems in space. US pays $70 million for each seat on Russia's Soyuz spacecraft, but Russia may pull the plug. And waiting in the wings is China, which wants to build a Death Star and make Star Wars a reality   (worldreview.info) divider line 106
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2014-03-26 07:41:23 AM
So because China managed to do something that both the United States and Russia managed to do in the 1960s, they're going to become the unmitigated leader in space....

This is why we don't get our info from random blogs.

www5.pcmag.com

Guess what. The SLS rocket is the heaviest lift capable rocket since the Saturn V, and it still lifts a few thousand KG less to lunar transit orbit.

If China is choosing to have a dick-measuring contest with the US or Russian space programs, it started with the world's cruelest handicap.

www.spacex.com
 
2014-03-26 07:56:19 AM

hardinparamedic: So because China managed to do something that both the United States and Russia managed to do in the 1960s, they're going to become the unmitigated leader in space....

This is why we don't get our info from random blogs.

[www5.pcmag.com image 275x275]

Guess what. The SLS rocket is the heaviest lift capable rocket since the Saturn V, and it still lifts a few thousand KG less to lunar transit orbit.

If China is choosing to have a dick-measuring contest with the US or Russian space programs, it started with the world's cruelest handicap.

[www.spacex.com image 850x276]


That's the second joke you've ripped from Takahata 101 in 20 minutes, both from the same episode.

Is there a screening I'm missing?
 
2014-03-26 08:01:50 AM
To be fair, I want to build a Death Star and make Star Wars a reality.
 
2014-03-26 08:04:29 AM
We don't need Russia or China. We've got SpaceX, who in cooperation with NASA will have a rescue vehicle ready for our astronauts in a year at most, and in the meantime will be able to keep supplying the ISS.
 
2014-03-26 08:06:38 AM
We should send some space marines up to the ISS and annex it from Russia.
 
2014-03-26 08:07:54 AM

WTF Indeed: We should send some space marines up to the ISS and annex it from Russia.


Or just disconnect their modules.
 
2014-03-26 08:10:27 AM

Tr0mBoNe: WTF Indeed: We should send some space marines up to the ISS and annex it from Russia.

Or just disconnect their modules.


Screw that! Manifest Motherf*cking Destiny in Space!
 
2014-03-26 08:11:05 AM

WTF Indeed: We should send some space marines up to the ISS and annex it from Russia.


The ISS doesn't belong to Russia. We built it in cooperation with several other countries, but it was mostly our project. Russia provides the transportation for people heading to and from the ISS, but we can replace them with SpaceX in due time. SpaceX is already handling the transportation of equipment and supplies to ISS, it's just a matter of time before they can deliver at the very least an escape capsule for the folks up there, and eventually fully take over all manned trips.

Russia is quickly becoming irrelevant in space.
 
2014-03-26 08:16:52 AM
this is good news for my son, an Aerospace major.
 
2014-03-26 08:19:30 AM

Crewmannumber6: this is good news for my son, an Aerospace major.


He'll be an Aerospace lieutenant colonel soon!
 
2014-03-26 08:21:04 AM
I don't see why all the fear of the Yellow Peril.  It's not like they are commies any more, they have a one party state.  They have shown no inclination to start a massive space war.  The more the merrier.
 
2014-03-26 08:21:12 AM

MmmmBacon: WTF Indeed: We should send some space marines up to the ISS and annex it from Russia.

The ISS doesn't belong to Russia. We built it in cooperation with several other countries, but it was mostly our project. Russia provides the transportation for people heading to and from the ISS, but we can replace them with SpaceX in due time. SpaceX is already handling the transportation of equipment and supplies to ISS, it's just a matter of time before they can deliver at the very least an escape capsule for the folks up there, and eventually fully take over all manned trips.

Russia is quickly becoming irrelevant in space.


What happens if they go out of business?
 
2014-03-26 08:21:59 AM
latimesherocomplex.files.wordpress.com
Seems to remember some shuttles sitting in a museum...
 
2014-03-26 08:22:09 AM
Law of unintended consequences at work.
 
2014-03-26 08:22:31 AM
"neil degrasse tyson trolls gravity"

(Just thought I would say it before the Fark robo comment generator throws it into this thread)

/Sandra Bullock approved this message.
 
2014-03-26 08:23:37 AM
Or as Vlad might say, "Gee, that's a mighty fine space station you got up there..."
 
2014-03-26 08:23:45 AM

HotWingConspiracy: MmmmBacon: WTF Indeed: We should send some space marines up to the ISS and annex it from Russia.

The ISS doesn't belong to Russia. We built it in cooperation with several other countries, but it was mostly our project. Russia provides the transportation for people heading to and from the ISS, but we can replace them with SpaceX in due time. SpaceX is already handling the transportation of equipment and supplies to ISS, it's just a matter of time before they can deliver at the very least an escape capsule for the folks up there, and eventually fully take over all manned trips.

Russia is quickly becoming irrelevant in space.

What happens if they go out of business?


Unless I missed a memo somewhere, I don't think SpaceX is going anywhere.
 
2014-03-26 08:24:23 AM

MmmmBacon: HotWingConspiracy: MmmmBacon: WTF Indeed: We should send some space marines up to the ISS and annex it from Russia.

The ISS doesn't belong to Russia. We built it in cooperation with several other countries, but it was mostly our project. Russia provides the transportation for people heading to and from the ISS, but we can replace them with SpaceX in due time. SpaceX is already handling the transportation of equipment and supplies to ISS, it's just a matter of time before they can deliver at the very least an escape capsule for the folks up there, and eventually fully take over all manned trips.

Russia is quickly becoming irrelevant in space.

What happens if they go out of business?

Unless I missed a memo somewhere, I don't think SpaceX is going anywhere.


Ever? For any reason?
 
2014-03-26 08:25:15 AM

HotWingConspiracy: MmmmBacon: HotWingConspiracy: MmmmBacon: WTF Indeed: We should send some space marines up to the ISS and annex it from Russia.

The ISS doesn't belong to Russia. We built it in cooperation with several other countries, but it was mostly our project. Russia provides the transportation for people heading to and from the ISS, but we can replace them with SpaceX in due time. SpaceX is already handling the transportation of equipment and supplies to ISS, it's just a matter of time before they can deliver at the very least an escape capsule for the folks up there, and eventually fully take over all manned trips.

Russia is quickly becoming irrelevant in space.

What happens if they go out of business?

Unless I missed a memo somewhere, I don't think SpaceX is going anywhere.

Ever? For any reason?


What happens if Russia goes out of business?
 
2014-03-26 08:25:54 AM
Maybe it's just me, but couldn't this problem be solved by the US just BUILDING OUR OWN GODDAMN ROCKETS AGAIN?????  What kind of idiot retires the shuttle without having a viable replacement, even in the next 3 years?
 
2014-03-26 08:26:25 AM
Putting NASA out of the shuttle business seems like a real good idea now, doesn't it.

Yeah yeah, I know about Space X.  And Imma real glad for them, and Imma give them credit when credit is due; but are they ready to go now?  Maybe we shouldn't have cancelled the program until a viable American replacement was ready to replace it.
 
2014-03-26 08:26:33 AM

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: HotWingConspiracy: MmmmBacon: HotWingConspiracy: MmmmBacon: WTF Indeed: We should send some space marines up to the ISS and annex it from Russia.

The ISS doesn't belong to Russia. We built it in cooperation with several other countries, but it was mostly our project. Russia provides the transportation for people heading to and from the ISS, but we can replace them with SpaceX in due time. SpaceX is already handling the transportation of equipment and supplies to ISS, it's just a matter of time before they can deliver at the very least an escape capsule for the folks up there, and eventually fully take over all manned trips.

Russia is quickly becoming irrelevant in space.

What happens if they go out of business?

Unless I missed a memo somewhere, I don't think SpaceX is going anywhere.

Ever? For any reason?

What happens if Russia goes out of business?


We've already witnessed that.
 
2014-03-26 08:28:15 AM
Thanks Obrainless.
 
2014-03-26 08:28:36 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: HotWingConspiracy: MmmmBacon: HotWingConspiracy: MmmmBacon: WTF Indeed: We should send some space marines up to the ISS and annex it from Russia.

The ISS doesn't belong to Russia. We built it in cooperation with several other countries, but it was mostly our project. Russia provides the transportation for people heading to and from the ISS, but we can replace them with SpaceX in due time. SpaceX is already handling the transportation of equipment and supplies to ISS, it's just a matter of time before they can deliver at the very least an escape capsule for the folks up there, and eventually fully take over all manned trips.

Russia is quickly becoming irrelevant in space.

What happens if they go out of business?

Unless I missed a memo somewhere, I don't think SpaceX is going anywhere.

Ever? For any reason?

What happens if Russia goes out of business?

We've already witnessed that.


So, that's what happens.
 
2014-03-26 08:29:09 AM

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: HotWingConspiracy: MmmmBacon: HotWingConspiracy: MmmmBacon: WTF Indeed: We should send some space marines up to the ISS and annex it from Russia.

The ISS doesn't belong to Russia. We built it in cooperation with several other countries, but it was mostly our project. Russia provides the transportation for people heading to and from the ISS, but we can replace them with SpaceX in due time. SpaceX is already handling the transportation of equipment and supplies to ISS, it's just a matter of time before they can deliver at the very least an escape capsule for the folks up there, and eventually fully take over all manned trips.

Russia is quickly becoming irrelevant in space.

What happens if they go out of business?

Unless I missed a memo somewhere, I don't think SpaceX is going anywhere.

Ever? For any reason?

What happens if Russia goes out of business?


They'll have a sales blowout and we can get their shuttle at 40% off!
 
2014-03-26 08:29:21 AM

Insaniteus: Maybe it's just me, but couldn't this problem be solved by the US just BUILDING OUR OWN GODDAMN ROCKETS AGAIN?????  What kind of idiot retires the shuttle without having a viable replacement, even in the next 3 years?


Sadly, now we actually have to do the calculus of whether it would be faster to spin up a human-transport rocket program from nearly scratch, or just wait until Space X gets there.  Either way, for now Russia's got our space nuts in a vise.
 
2014-03-26 08:30:03 AM
2.bp.blogspot.com

Get back in, Fartbongo!
 
2014-03-26 08:30:04 AM

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: HotWingConspiracy: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: HotWingConspiracy: MmmmBacon: HotWingConspiracy: MmmmBacon: WTF Indeed: We should send some space marines up to the ISS and annex it from Russia.

The ISS doesn't belong to Russia. We built it in cooperation with several other countries, but it was mostly our project. Russia provides the transportation for people heading to and from the ISS, but we can replace them with SpaceX in due time. SpaceX is already handling the transportation of equipment and supplies to ISS, it's just a matter of time before they can deliver at the very least an escape capsule for the folks up there, and eventually fully take over all manned trips.

Russia is quickly becoming irrelevant in space.

What happens if they go out of business?

Unless I missed a memo somewhere, I don't think SpaceX is going anywhere.

Ever? For any reason?

What happens if Russia goes out of business?

We've already witnessed that.

So, that's what happens.


SpaceX isn't a nation.
 
2014-03-26 08:31:35 AM

Deep Contact: Thanks Obrainless.


Yeah, you can go ahead and thank Republicans for that, dumbass.  The shuttle program ended in 2011.  That whole decision process happened under W-as-in-witless.
 
2014-03-26 08:33:07 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: HotWingConspiracy: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: HotWingConspiracy: MmmmBacon: HotWingConspiracy: MmmmBacon: WTF Indeed: We should send some space marines up to the ISS and annex it from Russia.

The ISS doesn't belong to Russia. We built it in cooperation with several other countries, but it was mostly our project. Russia provides the transportation for people heading to and from the ISS, but we can replace them with SpaceX in due time. SpaceX is already handling the transportation of equipment and supplies to ISS, it's just a matter of time before they can deliver at the very least an escape capsule for the folks up there, and eventually fully take over all manned trips.

Russia is quickly becoming irrelevant in space.

What happens if they go out of business?

Unless I missed a memo somewhere, I don't think SpaceX is going anywhere.

Ever? For any reason?

What happens if Russia goes out of business?

We've already witnessed that.

So, that's what happens.

SpaceX isn't a nation.


Good, all the easier to replace/confiscate/prop up then.
 
2014-03-26 08:33:31 AM

hardinparamedic: So because China managed to do something that both the United States and Russia managed to do in the 1960s, they're going to become the unmitigated leader in space....

This is why we don't get our info from random blogs.

[www5.pcmag.com image 275x275]

Guess what. The SLS rocket is the heaviest lift capable rocket since the Saturn V, and it still lifts a few thousand KG less to lunar transit orbit.

If China is choosing to have a dick-measuring contest with the US or Russian space programs, it started with the world's cruelest handicap.

[www.spacex.com image 850x276]


This is correct, although technically the N1 would have been the most powerful rocket flown had Russia launched it...and they came pretty darn close:
upload.wikimedia.org


Space X's merlin engines are direct descendants of the N1 engine design (They bought a few left in surplus to reverse engineer).

Comparison to Saturn:
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-03-26 08:34:47 AM

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: HotWingConspiracy: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: HotWingConspiracy: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: HotWingConspiracy: MmmmBacon: HotWingConspiracy: MmmmBacon: WTF Indeed: We should send some space marines up to the ISS and annex it from Russia.

The ISS doesn't belong to Russia. We built it in cooperation with several other countries, but it was mostly our project. Russia provides the transportation for people heading to and from the ISS, but we can replace them with SpaceX in due time. SpaceX is already handling the transportation of equipment and supplies to ISS, it's just a matter of time before they can deliver at the very least an escape capsule for the folks up there, and eventually fully take over all manned trips.

Russia is quickly becoming irrelevant in space.

What happens if they go out of business?

Unless I missed a memo somewhere, I don't think SpaceX is going anywhere.

Ever? For any reason?

What happens if Russia goes out of business?

We've already witnessed that.

So, that's what happens.

SpaceX isn't a nation.

Good, all the easier to replace/confiscate/prop up then.


Yeah I'm sure they'll get a bail out. No sweat.

images.politico.com
 
2014-03-26 08:35:26 AM

cptrelentless: I don't see why all the fear of the Yellow Peril.  It's not like they are commies any more, they have a one party state.  They have shown no inclination to start a massive space war.  The more the merrier.


The militarization of space is the only way we're going to get a space budget.  Sad but true.
 
2014-03-26 08:37:47 AM

Insaniteus: Maybe it's just me, but couldn't this problem be solved by the US just BUILDING OUR OWN GODDAMN ROCKETS AGAIN?????  What kind of idiot retires the shuttle without having a viable replacement, even in the next 3 years?


brimed03: Yeah yeah, I know about Space X.  And Imma real glad for them, and Imma give them credit when credit is due; but are they ready to go now?  Maybe we shouldn't have cancelled the program until a viable American replacement was ready to replace it.


The shuttle program was monstrous. You had to kill it with fire, swiftly and in one fell swoop. It was a necessary evil too- who was going to invest the money to build a private space transportation company if they weren't sure whether or not the government was going to get out of the business? No one.

Yes, it leaves us vulnerable to the whims of the Russians, but such is the price of progress. If they seriously made a move against the ISS, a 100% peaceful mission, there'd be public outcry from the entire western world.
 
2014-03-26 08:39:23 AM
Thank god obama refocused NASA to muslim outreach and cancelled the Constellation Program
 
2014-03-26 08:40:38 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: HotWingConspiracy: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: HotWingConspiracy: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: HotWingConspiracy: MmmmBacon: HotWingConspiracy: MmmmBacon: WTF Indeed: We should send some space marines up to the ISS and annex it from Russia.

The ISS doesn't belong to Russia. We built it in cooperation with several other countries, but it was mostly our project. Russia provides the transportation for people heading to and from the ISS, but we can replace them with SpaceX in due time. SpaceX is already handling the transportation of equipment and supplies to ISS, it's just a matter of time before they can deliver at the very least an escape capsule for the folks up there, and eventually fully take over all manned trips.

Russia is quickly becoming irrelevant in space.

What happens if they go out of business?

Unless I missed a memo somewhere, I don't think SpaceX is going anywhere.

Ever? For any reason?

What happens if Russia goes out of business?

We've already witnessed that.

So, that's what happens.

SpaceX isn't a nation.

Good, all the easier to replace/confiscate/prop up then.

Yeah I'm sure they'll get a bail out. No sweat.

[images.politico.com image 605x328]


Or be replaced, or be nationalised, or be bought out, or be operated by a trustee, or whatever, depending on the specific situation.

Ican't even tell what the fark you are trying to say.
 
2014-03-26 08:43:02 AM
cursed monkey:

This is correct, although technically the N1 would have been the most powerful rocket flown had Russia launched it...and they came pretty darn close:

close right up to the point it kept blowing itself to bits!
 
2014-03-26 08:43:10 AM

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: HotWingConspiracy: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: HotWingConspiracy: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: HotWingConspiracy: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: HotWingConspiracy: MmmmBacon: HotWingConspiracy: MmmmBacon: WTF Indeed: We should send some space marines up to the ISS and annex it from Russia.

The ISS doesn't belong to Russia. We built it in cooperation with several other countries, but it was mostly our project. Russia provides the transportation for people heading to and from the ISS, but we can replace them with SpaceX in due time. SpaceX is already handling the transportation of equipment and supplies to ISS, it's just a matter of time before they can deliver at the very least an escape capsule for the folks up there, and eventually fully take over all manned trips.

Russia is quickly becoming irrelevant in space.

What happens if they go out of business?

Unless I missed a memo somewhere, I don't think SpaceX is going anywhere.

Ever? For any reason?

What happens if Russia goes out of business?

We've already witnessed that.

So, that's what happens.

SpaceX isn't a nation.

Good, all the easier to replace/confiscate/prop up then.

Yeah I'm sure they'll get a bail out. No sweat.

[images.politico.com image 605x328]

Or be replaced,


How long will that take?

 or be nationalised,

LOL

 or be bought out, or be operated by a trustee, or whatever, depending on the specific situation.

Who would step in to do this?

Ican't even tell what the fark you are trying to say.

You obviously can.
 
2014-03-26 08:43:27 AM

cursed monkey: This is correct, although technically the N1 would have been the most powerful rocket flown had Russia launched it...and they came pretty darn close:


Close doesn't count in spaceflight.
 
2014-03-26 08:45:42 AM

brimed03: Yeah, you can go ahead and thank Republicans for that, dumbass.  The shuttle program ended in 2011.


Ummm....
 
2014-03-26 08:47:42 AM
But I was told that outsourcing our manufacturing and research was a brilliant move.

Just look at all the money we're saving!
 
2014-03-26 08:49:18 AM
We're all so happy obama canceled our new launch vehicle program.
www.upl.co
 
2014-03-26 08:50:30 AM
hardinparamedic [TotalFark]

So because China managed to do something that both the United States and Russia managed to do in the 1960s, they're going to become the unmitigated leader in space....

No, because the U.S. has given up things it could accomplish way back int he '60's, Russian and china will remain the leaders in space.
 
2014-03-26 08:50:50 AM
Meh, I'm not worried, space doesn't have boundaries, we'll just keep those astronauts up there until we have a replacement vehicle if need be. It's not like the Russians supply the thing completely, too. Also I am not a conspiracy theorist, but I would not be surprised in the least that the Air Force has a few tricks up its sleeve vis-a-vis manned rocketry shenanigans.
 
2014-03-26 08:51:29 AM

Molavian: brimed03: Yeah, you can go ahead and thank Republicans for that, dumbass.  The shuttle program ended in 2011.

Ummm....


W did cancel it in order to move ahead with the Constellation program..... then the current dip shiat scrapped the whole program and became Russia's biatch and refocused NASA as a muslim outreach program
 
2014-03-26 08:51:54 AM
MmmmBacon [TotalFark]

We don't need Russia or China. We've got SpaceX, who in cooperation with NASA will have a rescue vehicle ready for our astronauts in a year at most,

SpaceX is cool and all, but that same claim was made in the threads discussing the landing of the last shuttle mission.

// yes, I will take that bet.
 
2014-03-26 08:55:37 AM

Cheeseface: Meh, I'm not worried, space doesn't have boundaries, we'll just keep those astronauts up there until we have a replacement vehicle if need be. It's not like the Russians supply the thing completely, too. Also I am not a conspiracy theorist, but I would not be surprised in the least that the Air Force has a few tricks up its sleeve vis-a-vis manned rocketry shenanigans.


I wonder if they can put a manned module in the x37 if need be
 
2014-03-26 08:55:52 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: HotWingConspiracy: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: HotWingConspiracy: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: HotWingConspiracy: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: HotWingConspiracy: MmmmBacon: HotWingConspiracy: MmmmBacon: WTF Indeed: We should send some space marines up to the ISS and annex it from Russia.

The ISS doesn't belong to Russia. We built it in cooperation with several other countries, but it was mostly our project. Russia provides the transportation for people heading to and from the ISS, but we can replace them with SpaceX in due time. SpaceX is already handling the transportation of equipment and supplies to ISS, it's just a matter of time before they can deliver at the very least an escape capsule for the folks up there, and eventually fully take over all manned trips.

Russia is quickly becoming irrelevant in space.

What happens if they go out of business?

Unless I missed a memo somewhere, I don't think SpaceX is going anywhere.

Ever? For any reason?

What happens if Russia goes out of business?

We've already witnessed that.

So, that's what happens.

SpaceX isn't a nation.

Good, all the easier to replace/confiscate/prop up then.

Yeah I'm sure they'll get a bail out. No sweat.

[images.politico.com image 605x328]

Or be replaced,

How long will that take?

 or be nationalised,

LOL

 or be bought out, or be operated by a trustee, or whatever, depending on the specific situation.

Who would step in to do this?

Ican't even tell what the fark you are trying to say.

You obviously can.


So you are trying to say, what, that somehow it would be a problem to use Space X because...they aren't a country? That doesn't make any farking sense. Your incredulity at the idea that a business might be replaced or operated by a trustee or bailed out or otherwise maintained or transferred in the event of imminent bankruptcy (or whatever circumstance you're hinting at) is, well, incredible.
 
2014-03-26 09:16:43 AM

Zenith: cursed monkey:

This is correct, although technically the N1 would have been the most powerful rocket flown had Russia launched it...and they came pretty darn close:

close right up to the point it kept blowing itself to bits!


This. Political pressure forced them to built the N1 without a test stand that could handle the first stage. It used a magnificent engine, but the plumbing for feeding 30 of them at once was a nightmare. All that plumbing was only live-fire tested 4 times...each time on the launchpad with a whole N1 stacked on-top. And 4 times that first stage promptly shook itself to pieces. Crazy.
 
2014-03-26 09:20:45 AM

Fubini: cursed monkey: This is correct, although technically the N1 would have been the most powerful rocket flown had Russia launched it...and they came pretty darn close:

Close doesn't count in spaceflight.


In fact, close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.
 
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