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(USA Today)   With at least 14 dead and 176 missing after the landslide in Washington, local official decides to blame the victims, saying that the residents disregarded "(our) message after message that there's a high risk of landslides." Stay classy   (usatoday.com ) divider line 99
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2014-03-25 07:04:09 PM  
The developers, REA's and whomever issued the building permits should have known better. This is a disaster.
 
2014-03-25 07:21:36 PM  
As was mentioned yesterday: 176 reports of people missing != 176 people missing.
 
2014-03-25 07:53:51 PM  
Well... did they?
 
2014-03-25 08:02:35 PM  
Wait--if the statement is true, what's wrong with making it?  Is it true?
 
2014-03-25 08:25:55 PM  
Well if you look at the "before" picture of the area, it's pretty clear that there had been landslides there before.

media1.s-nbcnews.com
 
2014-03-25 08:36:12 PM  
this is not a "stay classy, officials" story.

this is a "stay ignorant, residents" story.
 
2014-03-25 09:06:43 PM  
Public officials should tell it like it is, but it sounds like this particular guy wants to be Mr. Speaking Uncomfortable Truths after the fact, when he'd said pretty much the opposite earlier.
 
2014-03-25 09:18:17 PM  

Gulper Eel: Public officials should tell it like it is, but it sounds like this particular guy wants to be Mr. Speaking Uncomfortable Truths after the fact, when he'd said pretty much the opposite earlier.


Reports were issued every 10 years since 1950 about the potential hazards of/in that area. There was a slide in 2006.
There are a number of people that should be held accountable.
 
2014-03-25 09:23:46 PM  
Who cares..

What about that plane?
 
2014-03-25 09:24:22 PM  
I bet they all went fishing in Friday Harbor.
 
2014-03-25 09:25:31 PM  

JoieD'Zen: Gulper Eel: Public officials should tell it like it is, but it sounds like this particular guy wants to be Mr. Speaking Uncomfortable Truths after the fact, when he'd said pretty much the opposite earlier.

Reports were issued every 10 years since 1950 about the potential hazards of/in that area. There was a slide in 2006.
There are a number of people that should be held accountable.


I believe 14 have been, so far.
 
2014-03-25 09:27:07 PM  
I don't get it subby, how is it asinine if they were told of the threats?

"We told the residents it's likely Lovecraftian horrors would crawl out of this designated area. And then they were all raped and slaughtered"
"THE OFFICIALS ARE JERKS!"
 
2014-03-25 09:27:19 PM  

Earguy: Well if you look at the "before" picture of the area, it's pretty clear that there had been landslides there before.

[media1.s-nbcnews.com image 850x317]


This. When I saw the 'before' picture earlier this week, I wondered who in their right mind would build anywhere near that? Then I remembered 'developers'. I wouldn't be surprised if they're planning out the next subdivision that will be built on the new, higher ground that this slide created.
 
2014-03-25 09:27:36 PM  
I hope they can get health care.
 
2014-03-25 09:28:53 PM  
Very much like the fishing camp residents out in Irish Bayou during Katrina.

Of course, you gotta have some family history of insanity to live in a fishing camp.
 
2014-03-25 09:29:18 PM  

BalugaJoe: I hope they can get health care.


...why do dead people need healthcare?

Does Obamacare cover zombies? Wraiths? Ethereal spirits?
 
2014-03-25 09:30:44 PM  

buzzcut73: Earguy: Well if you look at the "before" picture of the area, it's pretty clear that there had been landslides there before.

[media1.s-nbcnews.com image 850x317]

This. When I saw the 'before' picture earlier this week, I wondered who in their right mind would build anywhere near that? Then I remembered 'developers'. I wouldn't be surprised if they're planning out the next subdivision that will be built on the new, higher ground that this slide created.


Subdivision, in my Oso? It's less likely than you think.

There's like 200 people in that village

What I don't get is that land is cheap out there. Buy property away from mudslide areas.
 
2014-03-25 09:31:05 PM  
Oh. Wrong Washington. Poop.
 
2014-03-25 09:31:21 PM  

Earguy: Well if you look at the "before" picture of the area, it's pretty clear that there had been landslides there before.

[media1.s-nbcnews.com image 850x317]


...And look at the trees up the valley there. They're all softwoods between the hills, indicative of new forest, maybe secondary growth. The is a large scar across the river. It broke off, and the hill above it came down, too. These people couldn't read the Signs
 
2014-03-25 09:35:06 PM  

Earguy: Well if you look at the "before" picture of the area, it's pretty clear that there had been landslides there before.


I've been to the area before. I'm not sure how anyone could be surprised a major slide could happen.
 
2014-03-25 09:35:18 PM  
Yes, subby, being heedless of warnings for decades is a perfect reason to blame someone else.
 
2014-03-25 09:35:19 PM  

JoieD'Zen: Reports were issued every 10 years since 1950 about the potential hazards of/in that area. There was a slide in 2006.
There are a number of people that should be held accountable.


We get it, and that woman was warned about walking down that street at night dozens of times, and she still wore that dress anyway.
 
2014-03-25 09:36:59 PM  

Pizilla: Who cares..

What about that plane?


Crashed into some mud in Washington.
 
2014-03-25 09:38:18 PM  

KidneyStone: Yes, subby, being heedless of warnings for decades is a perfect reason to blame someone else.


People have the right to live where they want.  You want to blame someone?  Blame the people who own the land that collapsed.  They obviously knew of the risk it posed to the public...
 
2014-03-25 09:38:19 PM  

major-kong: Wait--if the statement is true, what's wrong with making it?  Is it true?


Pretty sure it is. I also heard overheard that there have been several other landslides of varying severity in roughly the same area since the 60s.
 
GBB
2014-03-25 09:39:32 PM  
"Don't play on the railings"
"Don't play on the railings"
"Don't play on the railings"
"Don't play on the railings"
"Don't play on the railings"
"Don't play on the railings"
"Don't play on the railings"
"Don't play on the railings"
"Don't play on the railings"
 wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net

Look at me, Ma!

media.katu.com
Stop blaming the victim
 
2014-03-25 09:41:58 PM  

GoldSpider: We get it, and that woman was warned about walking down that street at night dozens of times, and she still wore that dress anyway.


What you're saying is that we should placing the blame squarely on God for lacking the self-restraint to not mudslide.
 
2014-03-25 09:42:20 PM  
This sounds a lot like New Orleans when Katrina hit.
People living below sea level for years being told/knowing  that because of the lack of upgrades, someday the dikes would fail.
Then getting all butthurt when it happens.
 
2014-03-25 09:43:15 PM  
people in areas like this build without permits, demanding no government interference until they need someone to go dig out the bodies.

very sad.

co-worker had been living in a cabin on family property that is now under the dirt, moved out just 3 months ago.
 
2014-03-25 09:44:02 PM  

GoldSpider: JoieD'Zen: Reports were issued every 10 years since 1950 about the potential hazards of/in that area. There was a slide in 2006.
There are a number of people that should be held accountable.

We get it, and that woman was warned about walking down that street at night dozens of times, and she still wore that dress anyway.


Daaaaamn, that's some strong trolling hoss
 
2014-03-25 09:46:28 PM  
Yo Subby, quit being stupid.  He knows exactly what he's doing by coming out with this info.  By reminding the media it makes it easier to go after the state and developers who should have known better.  Reports of the potential for a slide in the area are dated back to the 50's.

He knows what's up unlike you.
 
2014-03-25 09:46:40 PM  

Capo Del Bandito: BalugaJoe: I hope they can get health care.

...why do dead people need healthcare?

Does Obamacare cover zombies? Wraiths? Ethereal spirits?


Well Obamacare is suppose to cover pre-existing conditions.
 
2014-03-25 09:49:46 PM  

GBB: "Don't play on the railings"
"Don't play on the railings"
"Don't play on the railings"
"Don't play on the railings"
"Don't play on the railings"
"Don't play on the railings"
"Don't play on the railings"
"Don't play on the railings"
"Don't play on the railings"
 [wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net image 584x244]

Look at me, Ma!

[media.katu.com image 405x304]
Stop blaming the victim


Oh how I rooted for Superman to fark up and miss the kid in that scene. And looking at the before and after pic posted above, it had to be plainly obvious that there would be a slide there sooner than later.
 
2014-03-25 09:51:49 PM  
img.fark.net
This is a map of the Fraser Delta. See the red bits containing some of the most populated area in the Vancouver area and some of the most overpriced real estate in the world? Hit it with a high enough quake and it will liquify and/or flood.
 
2014-03-25 09:56:04 PM  
They knew what they where in for when they bought in the hills, I say let them crash.
 
2014-03-25 09:57:08 PM  

GBB: "Don't play on the railings"
"Don't play on the railings"
"Don't play on the railings"
"Don't play on the railings"
"Don't play on the railings"
"Don't play on the railings"
"Don't play on the railings"
"Don't play on the railings"
"Don't play on the railings"


i1.ytimg.com
 
2014-03-25 09:59:20 PM  
It's not like the State has an easy to find, use and interact with maps of every possible geological danger . . . that would be too easy for property owners and potential buyers to use.

https://fortress.wa.gov/dnr/geology/?Theme=wigm

/owns some recreational property in a high landslide danger area
//doesn't live on that property for a reason
 
2014-03-25 10:02:06 PM  

poot_rootbeer: GoldSpider: We get it, and that woman was warned about walking down that street at night dozens of times, and she still wore that dress anyway.

What you're saying is that we should placing the blame squarely on God for lacking the self-restraint to not mudslide.


www.thebeveragestore.com

I blame TGI Friday's.
 
2014-03-25 10:05:06 PM  

GoldSpider: JoieD'Zen: Reports were issued every 10 years since 1950 about the potential hazards of/in that area. There was a slide in 2006.
There are a number of people that should be held accountable.

We get it, and that woman was warned about walking down that street at night dozens of times, and she still wore that dress anyway.


Well, if she was sufficiently warned about it.........
 
2014-03-25 10:05:07 PM  
I don't care where you live, there is always a risk of something happening. Be it landslides, floods, hurricane, tornadoes, earthquakes, hail storms, lightning, strong winds, wildfires, etc. Something can always go wrong.

Where I live I'm required to carry flood insurance through FEMA. In 15 years I've never seen it flood, but there is a dry creek 2 blocks away that fills up when we get heavy rains. I suppose if the rain was heavy enough and lasted long enough it could escape the creek bank and head toward my house. I'm honestly not concerned with it, if it happens it happens, I'll deal with it then.
 
2014-03-25 10:06:08 PM  
Why does anyone think that a developer had anything to do with this?
 
2014-03-25 10:15:18 PM  
There's a developer in Los Angeles right now who wants to build an apartment complex on top of a fault line, and he's trying to get the government to redraw where the fault is on the map so he can do it. I shiat you not.
 
2014-03-25 10:15:44 PM  

fight club: Why does anyone think that a developer had anything to do with this?


The Developer is God, Right?
 
2014-03-25 10:16:17 PM  
You might recall the seven scientists who recently went to prison for failing to properly predict an earthquake?

Now that the precedent's been set, this guy's probably just trying to get his version of the story out early and often to stay out of prison himself.
 
2014-03-25 10:17:12 PM  
Apparently Brownie is still in charge and still doing a great job.
 
2014-03-25 10:17:44 PM  

The One True TheDavid: Oh. Wrong Washington. Poop.


If only we could trade you for one of the deceased.
 
2014-03-25 10:19:02 PM  
If it was so clearly dangerous, then why was Highway 530 allowed to remain open? Does anyone caught there in the landslide have a massive claim against the state for constructing a highway in a known slide area?
 
2014-03-25 10:20:08 PM  

fight club: Why does anyone think that a developer had anything to do with this?


America's been more than a little suspicious of developers ever since this little incident:

i.ytimg.com

"You son of a biatch! You moved the cemetery, but you left the bodies, didn't you? You son of a biatch, you left the bodies and you only moved the headstones! You only moved the headstones! Lies! Lies!"
 
2014-03-25 10:23:21 PM  
they knew the risks going in, those cheapskates

fark em
 
2014-03-25 10:26:58 PM  

fnordfocus: You might recall the seven scientists who recently went to prison for failing to properly predict an earthquake?

Now that the precedent's been set, this guy's probably just trying to get his version of the story out early and often to stay out of prison himself.


I doubt Italian law is recognized in Washington.
 
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