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2014-03-25 07:20:44 PM
In their culture they say women should dress in a particular way because men cannot control themselves.  Apparently, in their culture, the men cannot.

I wonder if they would be ashamed if they knew their behavior is look upon by much of the rest of the world as that of untrained children.
 
2014-03-25 07:28:22 PM
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Feels her pain.
 
2014-03-25 08:06:06 PM
Every group is protective of their women, Muslim men often view non-Muslims (or non-Arabs) as cattle. You can treat them however you want as long as you marry the right Muslim baby incubator. They are cursed vessels, toys to be used because they spite god.

She's definitely seen as a Westerner and would be exempt from any respect, and yes those would indeed give more respect to a woman perceived as one of their own.
 
2014-03-25 08:19:10 PM

God-is-a-Taco: Every group is protective of their women, Muslim men often view non-Muslims (or non-Arabs) as cattle. You can treat them however you want as long as you marry the right Muslim baby incubator. They are cursed vessels, toys to be used because they spite god.

She's definitely seen as a Westerner and would be exempt from any respect, and yes those would indeed give more respect to a woman perceived as one of their own.


Bullshiat.

FTFA: "More than 99 per cent of women in Egypt have been subjected to a form of harassment, according to a study carried out in 2013 by UN Women.

Women report that they are harassed regardless of whether they are dressed in conservative Islamic veils or Western-style clothing.

In 2013 there were reports of premeditated and state-backed sex attacks on female protesters in Egypt's Tahrir Square.

Operation Anti-Sexual Harassment/Assault (OpAntiSh), set up to rescue victims from the Square received 19 reports of group sexual assaults, six of which resulted in hospitalisation, while the worst case involved the mutilation of a woman's genitalia with a knife."
 
2014-03-25 08:32:57 PM

timujin: I wonder if they would be ashamed if they knew their behavior is look upon by much of the rest of the world as that of untrained children.

i.imgur.com


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Perhaps you should tone down the smug a bit. This is not terribly unusual behavior for men, regardless of the culture.

/male
 
2014-03-25 08:57:59 PM

Somacandra: Perhaps you should tone down the smug a bit. This is not terribly unusual behavior for men, regardless of the culture.


And that's why you had to go back 14 years for that story?

Spare us the equivalence. Cairo University is allegedly the preeminent college in Egypt. Their best and brightest.

So tell me: what woman in that outfit is going to be treated that way walking across the campus of Harvard or Berkeley or even East Bumfark Bible Community College?

The college's president sure as shiat wouldn't be defending the males' actions, and 4chan etc. would have every guy in that video who so much as half-leered at her named, shamed and their home sprayed with bacon grease.

I think I'll double down on the smug. We're not perfect, but we're a DAMN sight better than Koraned-up goat-farking shiatheels like the president of Cairo University and his not-even-remotely-civilized male student body.
 
2014-03-25 09:18:28 PM
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2014-03-25 09:29:49 PM

Somacandra: timujin: I wonder if they would be ashamed if they knew their behavior is look upon by much of the rest of the world as that of untrained children.

[i.imgur.com image 644x107]

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Perhaps you should tone down the smug a bit. This is not terribly unusual behavior for men, regardless of the culture.

/male


It is unusual, it even says so in the article you linked.  Rare enough that the example you used is from a decade ago.  A woman similarly dressed to the one in the video walking through any university in America would elicit little notice, much less such behavior.
 
2014-03-25 09:36:44 PM
Meh, you wanted a reaction.....and are surprised when you get one.
 
2014-03-25 09:38:41 PM
Need clear, unpixilated pictures before anyone can make a determination if she was hawt or she was just a fugly slut who was asking for it.
 
2014-03-25 10:20:06 PM
So is this like the equivalent of walking around topless in America and then getting butthurt that people are staring at you?

Sucks for them that such a tame outfit is what elicits that kind of response.
 
2014-03-25 11:08:22 PM

Gulper Eel: And that's why you had to go back 14 years for that story?


i.imgur.com

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Both of these were from January. Do you really expect anyone to take you seriously after these similarly horrific crimes in Egypt, Japan and India and yes, America? The evidence is clear that the mass victimization of women is a global phenomenon caused by men from vastly different cultural backgrounds. All these have something in common, and it starts with "M" and ends with "N." Spare me your excuses for the collective behavior of men towards women.
 
2014-03-25 11:22:10 PM

Somacandra: Gulper Eel: And that's why you had to go back 14 years for that story?

[i.imgur.com image 602x86]

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Both of these were from January. Do you really expect anyone to take you seriously after these similarly horrific crimes in Egypt, Japan and India and yes, America? The evidence is clear that the mass victimization of women is a global phenomenon caused by men from vastly different cultural backgrounds. All these have something in common, and it starts with "M" and ends with "N." Spare me your excuses for the collective behavior of men towards women.


While I would argue that the Indian example doesn't bolster, but rather weakens your argument, as India is not far different in their treatment of women as a culture, I do agree that there is a long history of men victimizing women, it's a strong part of history.  However, this is not a singular example of some societal extreme, this was at a college, supposedly an institution of learning and in no western country would you find such widespread treatment of a woman for simply wearing a dress.
 
2014-03-25 11:33:29 PM
"This woman is dressed immodestly and immodest women cause men to react uncontrollably. Let me strip her naked and rape her in the streets. That will teach her a lesson about being immodest."
 
m00
2014-03-25 11:37:42 PM

Somacandra: Both of these were from January. Do you really expect anyone to take you seriously after these similarly horrific crimes in Egypt, Japan and India and yes, America? The evidence is clear that the mass victimization of women is a global phenomenon caused by men from vastly different cultural backgrounds. All these have something in common, and it starts with "M" and ends with "N." Spare me your excuses for the collective behavior of men towards women.


Western culture certainly has miles to go before women achieve social equality, but we're waaaaaay better than Africa, the Middle East, and India on this front. One good thing about the Soviet system was that women were pretty equal as well. I mean, there are still issues obviously. I'm not going to say women aren't discriminated against and harassed in the US. But c'mon. The US doesn't have tribal courts that hand out rape as a punishment for infidelity.
 
2014-03-25 11:38:42 PM

Somacandra: Spare me your excuses for the collective behavior of men towards women.


False equivalence is false, as others have pointed out. You do American women no justice by claiming that they experience the same degree and amount of contempt, hostility, and outright misogyny represented in the Egyptian video.
 
2014-03-25 11:41:09 PM

timujin: In their culture they say women should dress in a particular way because men cannot control themselves.  Apparently, in their culture, the men cannot.

I wonder if they would be ashamed if they knew their behavior is look upon by much of the rest of the world as that of untrained children.


Exactly. farking apes.  If the rest of the world can manage themselves without resorting to untoward actions of women then you ARE the problem. You are a piece of shiat.
/farking apes bears repeating.
 
2014-03-25 11:44:44 PM
You sure about that, subby? As fake as that hair looks, that could be a Wayans brother for all we know.
 
2014-03-25 11:45:40 PM

m00: Somacandra: Both of these were from January. Do you really expect anyone to take you seriously after these similarly horrific crimes in Egypt, Japan and India and yes, America? The evidence is clear that the mass victimization of women is a global phenomenon caused by men from vastly different cultural backgrounds. All these have something in common, and it starts with "M" and ends with "N." Spare me your excuses for the collective behavior of men towards women.

Western culture certainly has miles to go before women achieve social equality, but we're waaaaaay better than Africa, the Middle East, and India on this front. One good thing about the Soviet system was that women were pretty equal as well. I mean, there are still issues obviously. I'm not going to say women aren't discriminated against and harassed in the US. But c'mon. The US doesn't have tribal courts that hand out rape as a punishment for infidelity.


Yeah, they're all the same, those apes.
They're all racist assholes too.
 
2014-03-25 11:46:51 PM

Somacandra: timujin: I wonder if they would be ashamed if they knew their behavior is look upon by much of the rest of the world as that of untrained children.

[i.imgur.com image 644x107]

[i.imgur.com image 520x195]

Perhaps you should tone down the smug a bit. This is not terribly unusual behavior for men, regardless of the culture.


Have 99% of women in the USA been subjected to sexual harassment?  No?  Then you are being an idiot.
 
2014-03-25 11:47:01 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: God-is-a-Taco: Every group is protective of their women, Muslim men often view non-Muslims (or non-Arabs) as cattle. You can treat them however you want as long as you marry the right Muslim baby incubator. They are cursed vessels, toys to be used because they spite god.

She's definitely seen as a Westerner and would be exempt from any respect, and yes those would indeed give more respect to a woman perceived as one of their own.

Bullshiat.

FTFA: "More than 99 per cent of women in Egypt have been subjected to a form of harassment, according to a study carried out in 2013 by UN Women.

Women report that they are harassed regardless of whether they are dressed in conservative Islamic veils or Western-style clothing.

In 2013 there were reports of premeditated and state-backed sex attacks on female protesters in Egypt's Tahrir Square.

Operation Anti-Sexual Harassment/Assault (OpAntiSh), set up to rescue victims from the Square received 19 reports of group sexual assaults, six of which resulted in hospitalisation, while the worst case involved the mutilation of a woman's genitalia with a knife."


schooled.
 
2014-03-25 11:53:45 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: God-is-a-Taco: Every group is protective of their women, Muslim men often view non-Muslims (or non-Arabs) as cattle. You can treat them however you want as long as you marry the right Muslim baby incubator. They are cursed vessels, toys to be used because they spite god.

She's definitely seen as a Westerner and would be exempt from any respect, and yes those would indeed give more respect to a woman perceived as one of their own.

Bullshiat.

FTFA: "More than 99 per cent of women in Egypt have been subjected to a form of harassment, according to a study carried out in 2013 by UN Women.

Women report that they are harassed regardless of whether they are dressed in conservative Islamic veils or Western-style clothing.

In 2013 there were reports of premeditated and state-backed sex attacks on female protesters in Egypt's Tahrir Square.

Operation Anti-Sexual Harassment/Assault (OpAntiSh), set up to rescue victims from the Square received 19 reports of group sexual assaults, six of which resulted in hospitalisation, while the worst case involved the mutilation of a woman's genitalia with a knife."


What's the definition of harassment? Touching your co workers shoulder? Flirting? Japanese men?
 
2014-03-25 11:54:21 PM
When was the last time a female college student was referred to as a coed outside of a FARK headline (or away from coed.com)?

Isn't coed really archaic?

(I have done this too....)
 
2014-03-25 11:54:39 PM

Somacandra: Gulper Eel: And that's why you had to go back 14 years for that story?

[i.imgur.com image 602x86]

[i.imgur.com image 628x198] \


Both of these were from January. Do you really expect anyone to take you seriously after these similarly horrific crimes in Egypt, Japan and India and yes, America? The evidence is clear that the mass victimization of women is a global phenomenon caused by men from vastly different cultural backgrounds. All these have something in common, and it starts with "M" and ends with "N." Spare me your excuses for the collective behavior of men towards women.


To defend American and European men. Most of us find these actions to be at a minimum objectionable and much more likely to be heinous,
 
2014-03-25 11:55:44 PM

Somacandra: Gulper Eel: And that's why you had to go back 14 years for that story?

[i.imgur.com image 602x86]

[i.imgur.com image 628x198] \


Both of these were from January. Do you really expect anyone to take you seriously after these similarly horrific crimes in Egypt, Japan and India and yes, America? The evidence is clear that the mass victimization of women is a global phenomenon caused by men from vastly different cultural backgrounds. All these have something in common, and it starts with "M" and ends with "N." Spare me your excuses for the collective behavior of men towards women.


Methinks the thou doth protest too much, plebeian.

You're saying all men, when really you just mean yourself. You secretly dream of doing horrible things to people you see just walking down the street, don't you. Maybe you even hear a little voice telling you it's a good idea.

Get yourself to a hospital, man. You're a danger to yourself and everyone around you.
 
2014-03-26 12:00:19 AM
On the upside it's good to see the problem is only the men.

In most of these cultures, the women do an enormous amount of slut shaming, clothes policing, making sure other women wear their abayas or don't wear white after labor day, and in general policing of culture mores, up to and including calling each other sluts, getting into fights, and mandating female genital mutilation.

Glad Egypt has that cured and it's only the men in their culture promoting such horrible and regressive behaviors.
 
2014-03-26 12:01:01 AM

ciberido: Somacandra: timujin: I wonder if they would be ashamed if they knew their behavior is look upon by much of the rest of the world as that of untrained children.

[i.imgur.com image 644x107]

[i.imgur.com image 520x195]

Perhaps you should tone down the smug a bit. This is not terribly unusual behavior for men, regardless of the culture.

Have 99% of women in the USA been subjected to sexual harassment?  No?  Then you are being an idiot.


Go tell a sexual joke in your breakroom and see what happens. There are certain groups of politicians here that think rape is okay in certain situations.
 
2014-03-26 12:02:29 AM

Gulper Eel: Somacandra: Perhaps you should tone down the smug a bit. This is not terribly unusual behavior for men, regardless of the culture.

And that's why you had to go back 14 years for that story?

Spare us the equivalence. Cairo University is allegedly the preeminent college in Egypt. Their best and brightest.

So tell me: what woman in that outfit is going to be treated that way walking across the campus of Harvard or Berkeley or even East Bumfark Bible Community College?

The college's president sure as shiat wouldn't be defending the males' actions, and 4chan etc. would have every guy in that video who so much as half-leered at her named, shamed and their home sprayed with bacon grease.

I think I'll double down on the smug. We're not perfect, but we're a DAMN sight better than Koraned-up goat-farking shiatheels like the president of Cairo University and his not-even-remotely-civilized male student body.


Well you might have been, right up until that last paragraph of hate. Your scorn for them is different from their scorn for "Westernized" women... how, exactly?

Hate supports hate, feeds hate, begets hate. Misogyny walks hand-in-hand with what you did right there.

You want to believe you're better than that, then be better than that.
 
2014-03-26 12:02:40 AM
Mitch Taylor's Bro:
Bullshiat.

FTFA: "More than 99 per cent of women in Egypt have been subjected to a form of harassment, according to a study carried out in 2013 by UN Women.


I didn't say they were put on pedestals. I said they were treated better than non-Muslims.
 
2014-03-26 12:03:04 AM

Somacandra: Gulper Eel: And that's why you had to go back 14 years for that story?



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Both of these were from January. Do you really expect anyone to take you seriously after these similarly horrific crimes in Egypt, Japan and India and yes, America? The evidence is clear that the mass victimization of women is a global phenomenon caused by men from vastly different cultural backgrounds. All these have something in common, and it starts with "M" and ends with "N." Spare me your excuses for the collective behavior of men towards women.


Menstruation?
Moon?
Mastadon?
Morman?
Mailperson?
Malaysian?
 
2014-03-26 12:03:23 AM

Somacandra: This is not terribly unusual behavior for men, regardless of the culture.


I would posit that events like the Central Park gang abuse story make the news precisely because they are unusual behavior for the majority of men.
 
2014-03-26 12:03:49 AM

drjekel_mrhyde: Go tell a sexual joke in your breakroom and see what happens.


I've worked a couple of places where that would have the expected outcome of HR involvement, and a couple of places where the women will grade you for effort and one-up you if they knew a better or dirtier joke. Women are not a monolithic entity with the same opinions on everything. Come to think of it, neither are men.
 
2014-03-26 12:04:48 AM
When you teach people to be animals they will act like animals.
 
2014-03-26 12:04:54 AM

brimed03: Your scorn for them is different from their scorn for "Westernized" women... how, exactly?


Look up Paradox of Tolerance.
 
2014-03-26 12:07:23 AM
Raping anyone/anything is not rational no matter who you are. fark your culture and fark your religion and fark your tendencies and fark your lack of self control.
There is absolutely no justifying it no matter what your simple little mind thinks.
You're a piece of shiat that deserves to be dead.
Not debatable.
 
2014-03-26 12:09:43 AM

Prey4reign: Need clear, unpixilated pictures before anyone can make a determination if she was hawt or she was just a fugly slut who was asking for it.


She's an uncovered woman. It doesn't matter.
 
2014-03-26 12:11:34 AM

doglover: You're saying all men, when really you just mean yourself. You secretly dream of doing horrible things to people you see just walking down the street, don't you. Maybe you even hear a little voice telling you it's a good idea.

Get yourself to a hospital, man. You're a danger to yourself and everyone around you.


Oh I just assumed that was a feminist.
 
2014-03-26 12:12:00 AM

drjekel_mrhyde: ciberido: Somacandra: timujin: I wonder if they would be ashamed if they knew their behavior is look upon by much of the rest of the world as that of untrained children.

[i.imgur.com image 644x107]

[i.imgur.com image 520x195]

Perhaps you should tone down the smug a bit. This is not terribly unusual behavior for men, regardless of the culture.

Have 99% of women in the USA been subjected to sexual harassment?  No?  Then you are being an idiot.

Go tell a sexual joke in your breakroom and see what happens. There are certain groups of politicians here that think rape is okay in certain situations.


Using politicians as your control group is your weakness. They represent the worst of society by definition.
 
2014-03-26 12:12:42 AM

Boojum2k: drjekel_mrhyde: Go tell a sexual joke in your breakroom and see what happens.

I've worked a couple of places where that would have the expected outcome of HR involvement, and a couple of places where the women will grade you for effort and one-up you if they knew a better or dirtier joke. Women are not a monolithic entity with the same opinions on everything. Come to think of it, neither are men.


Perhaps it's worth mentioning that neither are Egyptians.
 
2014-03-26 12:18:40 AM

Hickory-smoked: Perhaps it's worth mentioning that neither are Egyptians.


No, but the 99% harassment rate suggests a seriously farked up culture.
 
2014-03-26 12:23:15 AM
Somacandra:
[i.imgur.com image 644x107]

[i.imgur.com image 520x195]

Perhaps you should tone down the smug a bit. This is not terribly unusual behavior for men, regardless of the culture.

/male


Somacandra -- That case "Central Park Youths 'Wilding' " was a horrible miscarriage of justice. Five minority men were wrongly convicted and an entire myth was created and perpetuated about black men "wilding" and raping women.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Park_jogger_case

Although the suspects (except Salaam) had confessed on videotape in the presence of a parent or guardian, they retracted their statements within weeks, claiming that they had been intimidated, lied to, and coerced into making false confessions.[13] The detectives had indeed used ruses to convince the suspects to confess, with Salaam confessing to having been present only after he was told that fingerprints were found on the victim's clothing.[14] While the confessions themselves were videotaped, the hours of interrogation that preceded the confessions were not.

No DNA evidence tied the suspects to the crime, so the prosecution's case rested almost entirely on the confessions.[4] In fact, analysis indicated that the DNA collected at the crime scene did not match any of the suspects - and that the crime scene DNA had all come from a single, as yet unknown person.[13]

One of the suspects' supporters, Reverend Calvin O. Butts of the Abyssinian Baptist Church in Harlem, told the New York Times, "The first thing you do in the United States of America when a white woman is raped is round up a bunch of black youths, and I think that's what happened here."[4]


It's a good thing our society doesn't fall for those fearful myths about black men rampaging and ... Oh. *sigh*

thegrio.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-03-26 12:23:28 AM

strathmeyer: doglover: You're saying all men, when really you just mean yourself. You secretly dream of doing horrible things to people you see just walking down the street, don't you. Maybe you even hear a little voice telling you it's a good idea.

Get yourself to a hospital, man. You're a danger to yourself and everyone around you.

Oh I just assumed that was a feminist.


Six of one, half a dozen of the other. To be man and hold those kinds of extreme feminist views means that somewhere in the recesses of your soul, the accusations that all men are evil rapists must be hitting some kind of truth.

It's the same as the guy who says "Everyone has genital warts, right? Ha ha ha." I don't know about everyone, but now everyone knows about him.
 
2014-03-26 12:24:15 AM
I think that when your religion tells you that women must cover up or they will temp men then you have a green light to act like an animal when you see a woman that is not all Burka'd up.

They are already blaming women when they force them to cover up.

Religions all seem to breed farking cavemen. At least in the west the secular laws make it a crime to inflict this kind of abuse ... they just tell women that they must be silent, subservient or shiat like that.
 
2014-03-26 12:28:30 AM

ciberido: Have 99% of women in the USA been subjected to sexual harassment?  No?


What exactly is the percentage of American women subjected to harassment?

I haven't found global data for the specific harassment study mentioned earlier in this thread, but according to the UN Women's "Violence against Women Prevalence Data: Surveys by Country" data sheet, the percentage of women in Egypt who experienced physical and/or sexual violence in their lifetime is 33.7%. In the US, that number is 24.8%.

A significant difference, to be sure, but perhaps not the night-and-day comparison you might have intended.
 
2014-03-26 12:30:06 AM

strathmeyer: doglover: You're saying all men, when really you just mean yourself. You secretly dream of doing horrible things to people you see just walking down the street, don't you. Maybe you even hear a little voice telling you it's a good idea.

Get yourself to a hospital, man. You're a danger to yourself and everyone around you.

Oh I just assumed that was a feminist.


Not sure what that was - there was just a bit too much crazy there for me to ascribe an easy motive.
 
2014-03-26 12:30:40 AM

doglover: Six of one, half a dozen of the other. To be man and hold those kinds of extreme feminist views means that somewhere in the recesses of your soul, the accusations that all men are evil rapists must be hitting some kind of truth.


harkavagrant.com
 
2014-03-26 12:32:22 AM

Farking Canuck: I think that when your religion tells you that women must cover up or they will temp men then you have a green light to act like an animal when you see a woman that is not all Burka'd up.

They are already blaming women when they force them to cover up.


This is one of those rare and frightening instances when I actually agree with you about something.
 
2014-03-26 12:35:00 AM

Hickory-smoked: physical and/or sexual violence


That's a bs statistic.

100% of people experience "physical and/or sexual violence" by the time they're 1/365th of a year old.

Babby are fromed. Babby are borned. Doctor smacks babby's ass. Book it, done. Unwanted spanking is both.
 
2014-03-26 12:35:00 AM
Apparently, the Middle East is full of militant homos.

/or something
 
2014-03-26 12:39:17 AM

iron_city_ap: Somacandra: Gulper Eel: And that's why you had to go back 14 years for that story?

 \


Both of these were from January. Do you really expect anyone to take you seriously after these similarly horrific crimes in Egypt, Japan and India and yes, America? The evidence is clear that the mass victimization of women is a global phenomenon caused by men from vastly different cultural backgrounds. All these have something in common, and it starts with "M" and ends with "N." Spare me your excuses for the collective behavior of men towards women.

Menstruation?
Moon?
Mastadon?
Morman?
Mailperson?
Malaysian?


Muslin?
 
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