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(Voice of America)   Malaysian Airlines: Hey, sorry about jerking you around about the whereabouts of your loved ones. Here's $5000 bucks. We're square, now, right?   (voanews.com) divider line 36
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-03-25 04:05:45 PM  
Should I be more or less outraged than I was when Chevron bought pizza for a whole town?
 
2014-03-25 04:30:29 PM  
img.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-25 04:41:44 PM  
Utter crap headline and shiatty article. First, from article up-page, the automatic payout is $176,000 from a treaty alone, and still gives families the right to bring private actions against the airline. The fact that they've paid out $5,000 so quickly is actually fairly commendable, and lets families suffering immediate financial hardship tend to their immediate needs.

Second, the issue is that the damages under a successful private cause of action are going to be based on the law of the jurisdiction in which such action is brought, and for many passengers, that will necessarily be Malaysia or China. Different jurisdictions have different laws. It's no different than the disparity in suing in states in the U.S. that have different caps on punitive and/or non-economic damages.
 
2014-03-25 04:42:29 PM  
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/mh370-families-might-get - millions-if-theyre-american-n61521

Apparently Americans are worth a lot more than citizens of other nations.
 
2014-03-25 04:46:44 PM  
dollarbucks, the traditional currency of malaysia
 
2014-03-25 04:51:26 PM  

DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 599x864]


um that's not a 777
 
2014-03-25 05:23:19 PM  
Protests are rare in China, especially in the country's capital, but authorities allowed it to go on apparently out of sympathy for the passengers' families because they weren't protesting the Chinese government.

Fixt.
 
2014-03-25 05:35:01 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Apparently Americans are worth a lot more than citizens of other nations.


Duh.
 
2014-03-25 05:35:26 PM  
I don't know if they were jerking them around. They just don't know where the plane it. The ocean is a big place.
 
2014-03-25 05:36:03 PM  
"They are hiding information. Everything they say turns out to be false, nothing is true or correct and that's why we're here," one woman said.

Methinks you're complaining about the wrong government.
 
2014-03-25 05:40:00 PM  
With all due respect sir, it's a big-ass sky ocean.
 
2014-03-25 05:43:32 PM  
Error rendering storify.
 
2014-03-25 05:43:55 PM  

abhorrent1: I don't know if they were jerking them around. They just don't know where the plane it. The ocean is a big place.


It is entirely possible that what appears to be incompetence is merely incredibly hard work that didn't yield the desired result.  It's also possible that the problem stems from so many different agencies communicating with the media.
 
2014-03-25 05:46:17 PM  
They could have given them miles instead. So, not bad.
 
2014-03-25 05:48:04 PM  

kronicfeld: Utter crap headline and shiatty article.


Never let the facts get in the way of a good old-fashioned anti-corporation lynch mob.
 
2014-03-25 05:48:49 PM  

scottydoesntknow: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/mh370-families-might-get - millions-if-theyre-american-n61521

Apparently Americans are worth a lot more than citizens of other nations.


That is less outrageous than you might think.

Costs of living vary widely.
 
2014-03-25 05:51:53 PM  

kronicfeld: First, from article up-page, the automatic payout is $176,000 from a treaty alone, and still gives families the right to bring private actions against the airline. The fact that they've paid out $5,000 so quickly is actually fairly commendable, and lets families suffering immediate financial hardship tend to their immediate needs.


I don't know if that's strictly true.

Under the Montreal treaty, the airline is strictly liable for up to 113,100 special drawing rights (or $176,000) for proven damages. So, yes, while it's great that Malaysia is giving out $5,000 now and maybe some more of their own volition, for the families to get the rest, they're going to have to go to court and prove that they were damaged for at least $176,000.
 
2014-03-25 06:00:19 PM  

nekom: DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 599x864]

um that's not a 777


This. The 777 is a twin engined craft for one....
 
2014-03-25 06:06:25 PM  

RexTalionis: kronicfeld: First, from article up-page, the automatic payout is $176,000 from a treaty alone, and still gives families the right to bring private actions against the airline. The fact that they've paid out $5,000 so quickly is actually fairly commendable, and lets families suffering immediate financial hardship tend to their immediate needs.

I don't know if that's strictly true.

Under the Montreal treaty, the airline is strictly liable for up to 113,100 special drawing rights (or $176,000) for proven damages. So, yes, while it's great that Malaysia is giving out $5,000 now and maybe some more of their own volition, for the families to get the rest, they're going to have to go to court and prove that they were damaged for at least $176,000.


It is really too early to go to court. IIf the investigation finds that it was pilot suicide, then that's an employee of the airline actively killing his passengers, plus the added negligence around falling to screen for mental health issues. That goes beyond compensation and into a claim for punitive damages.
 
2014-03-25 06:06:28 PM  

scottydoesntknow: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/mh370-families-might-get - millions-if-theyre-american-n61521

Apparently Americans are worth a lot more than citizens of other nations.


The work most Americans do generates more

Smackledorfer: scottydoesntknow: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/mh370-families-might-get - millions-if-theyre-american-n61521

Apparently Americans are worth a lot more than citizens of other nations.

That is less outrageous than you might think.

Costs of living vary widely.


And productivity, and economic value of the work done, and customary payouts per nation, and.....
 
2014-03-25 06:16:25 PM  

Sasquach: nekom: DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 599x864]

um that's not a 777

This. The 777 is a twin engined craft for one....



And doesn't have two decks of seating.
 
2014-03-25 06:25:07 PM  

Sasquach: nekom: DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 599x864]

um that's not a 777

This. The 777 is a twin engined craft for one....


Yeah it's a shooped Airbus A380
 
2014-03-25 06:46:43 PM  
In a rare public show of defiance...

Yeah, Asians amassing to vent anger at other types of Asians is pretty rare, especially when China is one of the groups.

Protests are rare in China, especially in the country's capital, but authorities allowed it to go on apparently out of sympathy for the passengers' families.

Mm hmm.
 
2014-03-25 06:55:29 PM  

Sasquach: nekom: DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 599x864]

um that's not a 777

This. The 777 is a twin engined craft for one....


Well that explains why they havent found it, we are all looking for the wrong plane....
 
2014-03-25 07:14:33 PM  
For the zillionth time it's MALAYSIA AIRLINES!

/There, I feel better.
 
2014-03-25 07:25:15 PM  
Well, the Malaysian authorities' performance is kind of a case study in HOW NOT TO DO PR, but having said that, it's probably difficult to release any statement that won't have people shiatting a brick of outrage when they're screaming at you to tell them something and you have nothing definitive to tell them.

EVERYBODY: Where's the plane???!!!!???!!!

AIRLINE: We don't know. Here's the last place we saw it (map showing last radar contact).

EVERYBODY: Whar is plane???!!! WHAR!!????
 
2014-03-25 07:28:48 PM  
Several hours ago I was listening on NPR to family member reactions in Beijing when Malaysia Airlines announced everyone was dead, and thought to myself, "Now, they'll offer $250 to the families...cuz, ya know...that's what the airlines give for a lost bag."

/sad I wasn't too far off the mark
 
2014-03-25 07:34:57 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: Well, the Malaysian authorities' performance is kind of a case study in HOW NOT TO DO PR, but having said that, it's probably difficult to release any statement that won't have people shiatting a brick of outrage when they're screaming at you to tell them something and you have nothing definitive to tell them.


Pfft.... they originally had searches out in the completely opposite area to where they are now claiming it crashed. They apparently had the information indicating the plane did a 180 degree loop and went the other way entirely, but for some reason decided to keep it under their hats for a week while everyone else wasted time looking in completely the wrong place. Do I trust them in any way shape or form after that? Nope. Looks like an awful lot of cover-up activity to me.
 
2014-03-25 08:02:05 PM  

Stone Meadow: Several hours ago I was listening on NPR to family member reactions in Beijing when Malaysia Airlines announced everyone was dead, and thought to myself, "Now, they'll offer $250 to the families...cuz, ya know...that's what the airlines give for a lost bag."

/sad I wasn't too far off the mark


Yes, you were only wrong by a factor of 20, forgot to consider drastically different costs of living in other countries, and, oh, the fact that this is a first payment out of way more. So close.
 
2014-03-25 09:02:46 PM  

DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 599x864]


Fail, that's not even close to being a 777.
 
2014-03-25 09:18:25 PM  

HenryFnord: Yeah it's a shooped Airbus A380


Shooped?

i141.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-25 09:47:07 PM  
Thats 5k each right?
 
2014-03-25 10:00:36 PM  

Thats_right_ALL_the_tea: Stone Meadow: Several hours ago I was listening on NPR to family member reactions in Beijing when Malaysia Airlines announced everyone was dead, and thought to myself, "Now, they'll offer $250 to the families...cuz, ya know...that's what the airlines give for a lost bag."

/sad I wasn't too far off the mark

Yes, you were only wrong by a factor of 20, forgot to consider drastically different costs of living in other countries, and, oh, the fact that this is a first payment out of way more. So close.


Your sarcasm meter...

i817.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-25 11:12:27 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Apparently Americans are worth a lot more than citizens of other nations.


i141.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-26 12:59:58 AM  
It's still in one of the 'Stans ..
 
2014-03-26 01:54:09 PM  

Sasquach: scottydoesntknow: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/mh370-families-might-get - millions-if-theyre-american-n61521

Apparently Americans are worth a lot more than citizens of other nations.

The work most Americans do generates more Smackledorfer: scottydoesntknow: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/mh370-families-might-get - millions-if-theyre-american-n61521

Apparently Americans are worth a lot more than citizens of other nations.

That is less outrageous than you might think.

Costs of living vary widely.

And productivity, and economic value of the work done, and customary payouts per nation, and.....


According to the article linked up-thread, it has nothing to do with any of those factors and everything to do with the reputation of US lawyers to completely game the system when it comes to commercial airline accident cases.
 
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