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2014-03-25 04:05:30 PM  
I knew it.
 
2014-03-25 04:27:19 PM  
That dude comes off as a smarmy douchebag, but it is true that our country is taking astonishing backwards strides, and yes, it is because of religion.

Of course, the rise of theological indoctrination schools is a direct result of how badly broken our public school system is.

In summation; everything is fu*ked up. Prepare to barter for canned goods.
 
2014-03-25 04:41:22 PM  

Calmamity: That dude comes off as a smarmy douchebag


so much this... I mean, damn. If you'd rather read the article he's talking about, here it is:
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/education-creationism-104934.h tm l
 
2014-03-25 05:07:30 PM  

Calmamity: That dude comes off as a smarmy douchebag, but it is true that our country is taking astonishing backwards strides, and yes, it is because of religion.

Of course, the rise of theological indoctrination schools is a direct result of how badly broken our public school system is.

In summation; everything is fu*ked up. Prepare to barter for canned goods.


The public school systems across the country have been under constant attack by the right-wing lunatics since I was in school in the '80s. Of course they're in rough shape.
 
2014-03-25 05:15:40 PM  
I was told there would be no secular hoax
 
2014-03-25 05:17:09 PM  

dr_blasto: Calmamity: That dude comes off as a smarmy douchebag, but it is true that our country is taking astonishing backwards strides, and yes, it is because of religion.

Of course, the rise of theological indoctrination schools is a direct result of how badly broken our public school system is.

In summation; everything is fu*ked up. Prepare to barter for canned goods.

The public school systems across the country have been under constant attack by the right-wing lunatics since I was in school in the '80s. Of course they're in rough shape.


A cheap labor force needs no math beyond arithmetic, and is better off controlled by clergy than it is doing its own thinking. We can get our scientists and engineers from India. Keep America Pure!
 
2014-03-25 05:38:35 PM  

timujin: Calmamity: That dude comes off as a smarmy douchebag

so much this... I mean, damn. If you'd rather read the article he's talking about, here it is:
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/education-creationism-104934.h tm l


Thirded. Why link to a stupid video instead of the actual article?
 
2014-03-25 06:19:25 PM  
This dude fails at math.

Not all private schools teach that crap, probably not even a significant percentage, but let's keep farking that chicken and use the figures that include far more then the nutjobs to alarm the masses.

He's not really helping.

That said... if we could standardize the required knowledge for meeting accreditation standards, this creationist nonsense could be sent back to dwell in Sunday Schools and backwater churches again.
 
2014-03-25 06:20:21 PM  

timujin: Calmamity: That dude comes off as a smarmy douchebag

so much this... I mean, damn. If you'd rather read the article he's talking about, here it is:
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/education-creationism-104934.h tm l


At least Rush will try to throw in a joke or, at the very least, what he considers a funny insult.  It may not always work, but at least it's some effort.  This guy is just sarcastically reading an article.  I'm assuming it's a radio show as well, but man, up the entertainment value a little bit.
 
2014-03-25 06:35:06 PM  

LesserEvil: Not all private schools teach that crap, probably not even a significant percentage, but let's keep farking that chicken and use the figures that include far more then the nutjobs to alarm the masses


When I lived in Chicago, the Catholic schools I knew about were pretty reasonable about teaching real stuff. Sure, you had a religion class, but those were more like "Catholocism" classes- not really evangelical things. You didn't have to believe anything, you just had to know what the Catholics believed. A lot of non-Catholics sent their kids to those places.
But these "Christian schools" you find in the South, they're farking Madrassas.
 
2014-03-25 06:42:14 PM  

LesserEvil: That said... if we could standardize the required knowledge for meeting accreditation standards, this creationist nonsense could be sent back to dwell in Sunday Schools and backwater churches again.


I'm apprehensively on board with your crazy new plan. Just reassure me that we can keep the fundy assholes out of the accreditation boards and I'm good. They've overrun the school boards because it's a shiat job that smart people don't run for so nobody opposes them. How do you keep the nutters off the accreditation standards boards?
 
2014-03-25 06:43:46 PM  

rumpelstiltskin: LesserEvil: Not all private schools teach that crap, probably not even a significant percentage, but let's keep farking that chicken and use the figures that include far more then the nutjobs to alarm the masses

When I lived in Chicago, the Catholic schools I knew about were pretty reasonable about teaching real stuff. Sure, you had a religion class, but those were more like "Catholocism" classes- not really evangelical things. You didn't have to believe anything, you just had to know what the Catholics believed. A lot of non-Catholics sent their kids to those places.
But these "Christian schools" you find in the South, they're farking Madrassas.


That's the irony. In many areas, the best way to avoid getting caught up in fundy bullshiat with textbooks and whatever is to go to a farking Catholic school.
 
2014-03-25 06:50:39 PM  
Only a high-end Toshiba laptop can put up with that much bullshiat...

/wonder if he gets something for having it so perfectly placed, or he's just showing off
 
2014-03-25 06:57:19 PM  

dr_blasto: rumpelstiltskin: LesserEvil: Not all private schools teach that crap, probably not even a significant percentage, but let's keep farking that chicken and use the figures that include far more then the nutjobs to alarm the masses

When I lived in Chicago, the Catholic schools I knew about were pretty reasonable about teaching real stuff. Sure, you had a religion class, but those were more like "Catholocism" classes- not really evangelical things. You didn't have to believe anything, you just had to know what the Catholics believed. A lot of non-Catholics sent their kids to those places.
But these "Christian schools" you find in the South, they're farking Madrassas.

That's the irony. In many areas, the best way to avoid getting caught up in fundy bullshiat with textbooks and whatever is to go to a farking Catholic school.


Look at the Supreme Court.  It's either Jesuits or Jews, because even Bush knows that Baptists can't think their way out of a wet paper bag.
 
2014-03-25 06:57:59 PM  
what about the sexyhos?  came for sexyhos
 
2014-03-25 07:03:14 PM  

PI IS EXACTLY THREE!

i235.photobucket.com

 
2014-03-25 07:26:32 PM  
Why is he using two microphones?
 
2014-03-25 07:37:58 PM  

Tillmaster: Why is he using two microphones?


the one on his head would be internal comm.
 
2014-03-25 08:29:28 PM  
this guy comes across as a liberal rush limbaugh
 
2014-03-25 08:56:10 PM  

LesserEvil: This dude fails at math.

Not all private schools teach that crap, probably not even a significant percentage, but let's keep farking that chicken and use the figures that include far more then the nutjobs to alarm the masses.

He's not really helping.

That said... if we could standardize the required knowledge for meeting accreditation standards, this creationist nonsense could be sent back to dwell in Sunday Schools and backwater churches again.


If even one school like that is getting public funds, it's too much.
 
2014-03-25 10:04:57 PM  
The irony of things are astounding.  In the middle ages while christians were burning other christians for taking baths and having their milk spoil out of season.  The arabs had one of the most technically advanced societies on the planet.  They had one of the best grasp of disease and science in the world for the age they lived in.  Fast forward to today and most arabs are as ignorant as they come.  They believe in all manner of nonsense that their ancestors would have laughed at.  This is the fate of any advanced/decaying religion.  The older it gets, the more it destroys its own history to preserve its hold on its congregation.
 
2014-03-25 10:10:29 PM  

Revek: The irony of things are astounding.  In the middle ages while christians were burning other christians for taking baths and having their milk spoil out of season.  The arabs had one of the most technically advanced societies on the planet.  They had one of the best grasp of disease and science in the world for the age they lived in.  Fast forward to today and most arabs are as ignorant as they come.  They believe in all manner of nonsense that their ancestors would have laughed at.  This is the fate of any advanced/decaying religion.  The older it gets, the more it destroys its own history to preserve its hold on its congregation.


From what I understand, it's due to a rise in religious fundamentalism in the 50's.  The world you see today is extremely different than it was only 70 years ago.  Of course, America is part of the reason for that, but only part.  We had something similar happen here, too, around the same time and it's had long lasting effects on our culture as well.
 
2014-03-25 10:14:35 PM  

Calmamity: That dude comes off as a smarmy douchebag, but it is true that our country is taking astonishing backwards strides, and yes, it is because of religion.

Of course, the rise of theological indoctrination schools is a direct result of how badly broken our public school system is.

In summation; everything is fu*ked up. Prepare to barter for canned goods.


Canned food is socialist.
 
2014-03-25 10:21:24 PM  
A dozen, a gross, and a score,
plus three times the square root of four,
divided by seven,
plus five times eleven,
is nine squared and not a bit more.
 
2014-03-25 10:27:05 PM  

TheMega: Only a high-end Toshiba laptop can put up with that much bullshiat...

/wonder if he gets something for having it so perfectly placed, or he's just showing off


Sony Vaio is the poseur model (assuming you don't have a MacBook).
Toshiba is a smart buy. Lenovo and Asus are also acceptable.
 
2014-03-25 10:34:19 PM  

ltdanman44: this guy comes across as a liberal rush limbaugh


My thoughts exactly.
 
2014-03-25 10:49:07 PM  
Using profanity always makes you sound smarter.
 
2014-03-25 10:54:47 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
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Yes, he seems like a smarmy liberal-Limbaugh-esque Tinfoil hat alarmist type, but his assertions seem to have a bit more weight behind them than most... Probably because I wouldn't put any of it past our government or Christian/Evangelist private schools.
 
2014-03-25 10:59:14 PM  

lostcat: Using profanity always makes you sound smarter.


Yep. Was about to say the same thing... for fark's sake god damn it.
 
2014-03-25 11:01:31 PM  
Do not copy your fundie asshole neighbor's answer.

Real math is easy.
 
2014-03-26 12:04:54 AM  
Sorry, but I don't watch math videos unless they're by Vi Hart.
 
2014-03-26 12:39:40 AM  
Chaz Bono has a vlog?
 
2014-03-26 12:48:08 AM  

timujin: Revek: The irony of things are astounding.  In the middle ages while christians were burning other christians for taking baths and having their milk spoil out of season.  The arabs had one of the most technically advanced societies on the planet.  They had one of the best grasp of disease and science in the world for the age they lived in.  Fast forward to today and most arabs are as ignorant as they come.  They believe in all manner of nonsense that their ancestors would have laughed at.  This is the fate of any advanced/decaying religion.  The older it gets, the more it destroys its own history to preserve its hold on its congregation.

From what I understand, it's due to a rise in religious fundamentalism in the 50's.  The world you see today is extremely different than it was only 70 years ago.  Of course, America is part of the reason for that, but only part.  We had something similar happen here, too, around the same time and it's had long lasting effects on our culture as well.


There were functional democracies throughout the Middle East until we started farking with them for their oil.
 
2014-03-26 12:49:07 AM  
I've gone to a few private schools, including a Catholic high school, and I can say that I received a much better education there than I expect I could have gotten in a public school. It was where I was introduced to quantum physics, Frank Zappa, and J.R.R. Tolkien. I have no complaints.
When I went to college, i was astonished to find that half the classes were remedial ones, for people who had graduated from (public) high school with no concept of simple math, grammar, or writing skills. I am firmly in favor of the voucher plan, I do, however, feel that the Department of Education might want to disqualify schools that teach arrant nonsense instead of knowledge.
 
2014-03-26 12:50:25 AM  

Bith Set Me Up: timujin: Revek: The irony of things are astounding.  In the middle ages while christians were burning other christians for taking baths and having their milk spoil out of season.  The arabs had one of the most technically advanced societies on the planet.  They had one of the best grasp of disease and science in the world for the age they lived in.  Fast forward to today and most arabs are as ignorant as they come.  They believe in all manner of nonsense that their ancestors would have laughed at.  This is the fate of any advanced/decaying religion.  The older it gets, the more it destroys its own history to preserve its hold on its congregation.

From what I understand, it's due to a rise in religious fundamentalism in the 50's.  The world you see today is extremely different than it was only 70 years ago.  Of course, America is part of the reason for that, but only part.  We had something similar happen here, too, around the same time and it's had long lasting effects on our culture as well.

There were functional democracies throughout the Middle East until we started farking with them for their oil.


Let me better elaborate:

Many Middle Eastern nations had been functional democracies until the mid-20th century, when we started sticking our dicks into their metaphorical mashed potatoes, such as the 1953 coup of Iran, leading to the rise of leaders who served as useful idiots to us.

I've said it before, but this needs to be said again and again:

So many problems in the Middle East today are socioeconomic rather than religious. Until the 20th century, the extremists were never really in charge. The 1953 US-backed coup of Iran and the later invasion of Afghanistan by the USSR all led to the downfall of the more sensible leaders in favor of idiot rulers who could easily be exploited. With Afghanistan in particular, the US was so obsessed with stopping the Soviets that we didn't think about who were supporting against them. Namely, the more fundamentalist members of the Mujahadeen who filled the power vacuum once the Soviets left altogether and turned Afghanistan into a larger hellhole. To this day, no American politician will own up to their mistakes there, to the reality that *we* made our enemies.

If someone has been radicalizing the Middle East, it's been us. By manipulating their governments, by bombing their cities with little regard for the people, by unquestionably supporting Israel with their apartheid policies, we have been constantly antagonizing the people of the Middle East. And we act all shocked like "Oh, why do they hate us?". We must take some responsibility over the wrongdoings we've caused.
 
2014-03-26 03:01:02 AM  

Bith Set Me Up: Bith Set Me Up: timujin: Revek: The irony of things are astounding.  In the middle ages while christians were burning other christians for taking baths and having their milk spoil out of season.  The arabs had one of the most technically advanced societies on the planet.  They had one of the best grasp of disease and science in the world for the age they lived in.  Fast forward to today and most arabs are as ignorant as they come.  They believe in all manner of nonsense that their ancestors would have laughed at.  This is the fate of any advanced/decaying religion.  The older it gets, the more it destroys its own history to preserve its hold on its congregation.

From what I understand, it's due to a rise in religious fundamentalism in the 50's.  The world you see today is extremely different than it was only 70 years ago.  Of course, America is part of the reason for that, but only part.  We had something similar happen here, too, around the same time and it's had long lasting effects on our culture as well.

There were functional democracies throughout the Middle East until we started farking with them for their oil.

Let me better elaborate:

Many Middle Eastern nations had been functional democracies until the mid-20th century, when we started sticking our dicks into their metaphorical mashed potatoes, such as the 1953 coup of Iran, leading to the rise of leaders who served as useful idiots to us.

I've said it before, but this needs to be said again and again:

So many problems in the Middle East today are socioeconomic rather than religious. Until the 20th century, the extremists were never really in charge. The 1953 US-backed coup of Iran and the later invasion of Afghanistan by the USSR all led to the downfall of the more sensible leaders in favor of idiot rulers who could easily be exploited. With Afghanistan in particular, the US was so obsessed with stopping the Soviets that we didn't think about who were supporting against them. Namely, the more fundamen ...


Kabul, Afghanistan 1950

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1990's - after roughly a decade of Taliban rule

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2014-03-26 04:15:32 AM  
dr_blasto:

LesserEvil: That said... if we could standardize the required knowledge for meeting accreditation standards, this creationist nonsense could be sent back to dwell in Sunday Schools and backwater churches again.

I'm apprehensively on board with your crazy new plan. Just reassure me that we can keep the fundy assholes out of the accreditation boards and I'm good. They've overrun the school boards because it's a shiat job that smart people don't run for so nobody opposes them. How do you keep the nutters off the accreditation standards boards?


This is why I show up at the polls every voting day, even in odd years. I'm "unaffiliated" in a state with a closed primary system so I can't usually vote *for* anyone, but I can sure as heck vote *against* fundies trying to get on the local school board.

So in answer to your question, read your local voter guide and show up at the polls so these people keep their day jobs as realtors and Mary Kay salesmen and never get a toehold.

Bith Set Me Up:

With Afghanistan in particular, the US was so obsessed with stopping the Soviets that we didn't think about who were supporting against them. Namely, the more fundamentalist members of the Mujahadeen who filled the power vacuum once the Soviets left altogether and turned Afghanistan into a larger hellhole. To this day, no American politician will own up to their mistakes there, to the reality that *we* made our enemies.

I'm gonna disagree there... Afghanistan has *ALWAYS* been a pretty arbitrary state that British mapmakers delineated because the lines looked nice. Even Alexander The Great got that far and had a big "NOPE, not touching that!" moment.

After the Soviets wrecked an otherwise functioning monarchy and left nothing, could the US have salvaged it? Maybe, if we had saturation-bombed it with McDonalds and Madonna... But we didn't and every local clan and crook with any power took hold of their little bit of turf. It basically went to Somalia-levels of lawless shiat. The defining moment for Mullah Omar and the Taliban was when some local warlord raped a young girl and they were the only ones to do anything about it... They hung the SOB in a public square from the cannon of a Soviet tank. In that moment, they were the goddamn Batman and could do no wrong... It wasn't until later that folks started figuring out that the same people were beating women in the street for showing their ankles.

tl,dr: It's a lot more complex than "oh yeah, the US did it." If you can find a copy of this book I can strongly recommend it as a good if sorta dry read.  If anyone is the villan in Afghanistan's story, it'd be the House of Saud, not that the US hasn't enabled them.
 
2014-03-26 06:25:20 AM  
That would be an ecumenical matter
 
2014-03-26 07:08:38 AM  
http://blog.jorgenschaefer.de/2012/10/the-burden-of-set-theory.html

Set theory!  Booga booga booga!
Apparently set theory is an abomination in the eyes of Nuggan and an outrage to true believers everywhere.
Because only God is infinite, and how dare those heathen math people talk about infinite things that are not God.  Or something like that.

/And the case for reopening the state insane asylums rests.
 
2014-03-26 08:14:38 AM  

LesserEvil: This dude fails at math.

Not all private schools teach that crap, probably not even a significant percentage, but let's keep farking that chicken and use the figures that include far more then the nutjobs to alarm the masses.

He's not really helping.

That said... if we could standardize the required knowledge for meeting accreditation standards, this creationist nonsense could be sent back to dwell in Sunday Schools and backwater churches again.


/States rights!
//No Common Core!!
///Tenth Amendment!!!
 
2014-03-26 08:34:33 AM  
TL;DW
 
2014-03-26 08:45:24 AM  

timujin: Calmamity: That dude comes off as a smarmy douchebag

so much this... I mean, damn. If you'd rather read the article he's talking about, here it is:
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/education-creationism-104934.h tm l


Thank you, because I kept looking at the video and calculating how much longer I had to listen to him, He could have covered his little spiel in about 30 seconds.
 
2014-03-26 04:24:32 PM  

Snapper Carr: Bith Set Me Up: Bith Set Me Up: timujin: Revek: The irony of things are astounding.  In the middle ages while christians were burning other christians for taking baths and having their milk spoil out of season.  The arabs had one of the most technically advanced societies on the planet.  They had one of the best grasp of disease and science in the world for the age they lived in.  Fast forward to today and most arabs are as ignorant as they come.  They believe in all manner of nonsense that their ancestors would have laughed at.  This is the fate of any advanced/decaying religion.  The older it gets, the more it destroys its own history to preserve its hold on its congregation.

From what I understand, it's due to a rise in religious fundamentalism in the 50's.  The world you see today is extremely different than it was only 70 years ago.  Of course, America is part of the reason for that, but only part.  We had something similar happen here, too, around the same time and it's had long lasting effects on our culture as well.

There were functional democracies throughout the Middle East until we started farking with them for their oil.

Let me better elaborate:

Many Middle Eastern nations had been functional democracies until the mid-20th century, when we started sticking our dicks into their metaphorical mashed potatoes, such as the 1953 coup of Iran, leading to the rise of leaders who served as useful idiots to us.

I've said it before, but this needs to be said again and again:

So many problems in the Middle East today are socioeconomic rather than religious. Until the 20th century, the extremists were never really in charge. The 1953 US-backed coup of Iran and the later invasion of Afghanistan by the USSR all led to the downfall of the more sensible leaders in favor of idiot rulers who could easily be exploited. With Afghanistan in particular, the US was so obsessed with stopping the Soviets that we didn't think about who were supporting against them. Namely, t ...


What a god damned shame....
 
2014-03-26 05:31:57 PM  

Calmamity: That dude comes off as a smarmy douchebag, but it is true that our country is taking astonishing backwards strides, and yes, it is because of religion.

Of course, the rise of theological indoctrination schools is a direct result of how badly broken our public school system is.

In summation; everything is fu*ked up. Prepare to barter for canned goods.


That dude is such a colossal douche it almost makes me want to give up atheism and go to church.  Almost.

And all the douches I'd find at church.
 
2014-03-27 12:46:24 AM  

bikerbob59: TL;DW


timujin: Calmamity: That dude comes off as a smarmy douchebag

so much this... I mean, damn. If you'd rather read the article he's talking about, here it is:
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/education-creationism-104934.h tm l


THANK YOU!

God, I couldn't stand that guy's delivery.   "let me repeat that..."  NO!  you said it slow enough the first time!
 
2014-03-27 01:27:35 AM  
While I was on the pro Catholic schooling side until last week, I was to assume that the Catholic church as pretty much on the up and up with regards to science.  John Paul II said evolution was prefectly acceptable and that God created the soul to which there was no point to argue with because there was no burden of proof, for or against that.  Francis being a man of science himself, I thought would push the advancement of science in the church even further forward.  Alas, I might be mistaken.  My friend's child goes to a Catholic school.  Watching Cosmos a couple weeks ago with the episode on evolution, he said, "but that's not what we were taught in school."  My heart sank at that notion.  My coworker said that he corrected him and said that there has to be faith behind all of this.  I so wanted to discuss with my coworker this matter, but he would not listen.  Faith has nothing to do with science.  Science is about questioning what we are presented with and trying to understand the world around us.  We have established methods of discovery and they work extremely well.  When we use faith, we accept something without question. Justifying something with faith is a slap in the face to all of those who developed the scientific method.  You can use your faith for that which there is no way to prove, but don't use your faith on questions that science and math have already proven.
 
2014-03-27 08:33:09 AM  
"Hokey religions and ancient textbooks are no way to go through life, son."
Socrates
 
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