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2014-03-25 12:39:40 PM  
There is no reason to panic here.  If we are on the verge of becoming extinct then it will happen.  If we are to blame for our own demise is this really something that will shock us?  We've known for some time now how stupid we can be so why be shocked if we are stupid enough to destroy ourselves.  And I don't think standing around pointing at each other and assigning blame is a particularly productive way to spend our time.  Make most of what we have and enjoy life in the moment.  We found out a bit too late maybe the whole agriculture thing wasn't all it was cracked up to be, at least it gave us popcorn which we can enjoy while watching the world- as we know it- end.
 
2014-03-25 01:01:28 PM  
FTFA "Participating scientists say warming won't cause wars, but it will add a destabilizing factor that will make existing threats worse."

This is where they lost me.

"You know Jim, I've really had it with you leaving your empties on my lawn. It's a good thing it's stayed a little colder otherwise I'd have to punch you in the face."

facepalm.jpg
 
2014-03-25 01:06:04 PM  
I don't like to feel bad so I'm going to ignore this.
 
2014-03-25 01:08:54 PM  
Nuh-uh. It's all liberal media lies. Drill here, drill now! Clean coal! Clean coal!

www.calvin.edu
 
2014-03-25 01:22:41 PM  
These warnings of imminent collapse have been going on for over 100 years, if they continued for 100 years I will panic.

Core samples prove that the climate has never been constant.
 
2014-03-25 01:23:41 PM  
Are these a) the guys that said this winter was going to be warmer than ever, b) the guys that said that last summer was going to have more hurricanes than ever or c) the guy, while being paid more than anyone else at his agency, which he was in charge of, pretended he was a CIA agent to miss months of work at a time and then when he did show back up, he just made up the numbers out of thin air, faking the data, and it took the agency decades to figure out he wasn't a CIA agent - and anyways he promoted the global warming agenda, which was the only requirement for the job - not whether you actually showed up for it or had valid data or were sane enough to realize whether you were or were not a CIA agent?
 
2014-03-25 01:25:15 PM  
Maybe it is happening already.  maybe GW caused the black hole that MH370 flew into.  239 victims of GW.
 
2014-03-25 01:29:54 PM  

SlothB77: Are these a) the guys that said this winter was going to be warmer than ever, b) the guys that said that last summer was going to have more hurricanes than ever or c) the guy, while being paid more than anyone else at his agency, which he was in charge of, pretended he was a CIA agent to miss months of work at a time and then when he did show back up, he just made up the numbers out of thin air, faking the data, and it took the agency decades to figure out he wasn't a CIA agent - and anyways he promoted the global warming agenda, which was the only requirement for the job - not whether you actually showed up for it or had valid data or were sane enough to realize whether you were or were not a CIA agent?


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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-03-25 01:31:25 PM  
Which glaciers are going to melt this time?
 
2014-03-25 01:31:27 PM  

SlothB77: Maybe it is happening already.  maybe GW caused the black hole that MH370 flew into.  239 victims of GW.


img.fark.net
 
2014-03-25 01:37:32 PM  
If the sea level increased by a few meters because of glacier melt it would solve a more problems than it would cause.
 
2014-03-25 01:40:13 PM  
I predict that, at some point in the future, there will be a drought somewhere in the world that will lead to starvation for some people.  Somewhere else in the world, there will be flooding that will result in loss of property and - quite probably - the loss of life.

My predictions estimate that we will almost certainly begin to see evidence of these natural disasters before the end of 2014, and we can expect similar climatic events to continue for the foreseeable future.

Now, which government do I need to petition for payment for my insight and wisdom?
 
2014-03-25 01:46:21 PM  
OK, so answer me this question, libs.  Did you ever notice that when an ice cube melts that it doesn't make the glass over flow?  Exactly.  The glaciers are the same way.  We should be more concerned about Antarctica floating up to Miami and making it really cold.  Didn't think about that, did you?
 
2014-03-25 01:48:36 PM  

Rapmaster2000: OK, so answer me this question, libs.  Did you ever notice that when an ice cube melts that it doesn't make the glass over flow?  Exactly.  The glaciers are the same way.  We should be more concerned about Antarctica floating up to Miami and making it really cold.  Didn't think about that, did you?


hehehe..
 
2014-03-25 01:51:22 PM  
Well, I'm sure this report will convince everyone.
 
2014-03-25 01:57:08 PM  
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2014-03-25 01:57:10 PM  
Don't panic.

Bad decisions are made when you panic.

My only advice.

"Remember where your towel is."
 
2014-03-25 01:58:59 PM  
Global food prices will rise between 3 and 84 percent

Yeah, well I predict it may rise a little, a lot, or not at all. Could I be right?
 
2014-03-25 01:59:41 PM  
Al Gore!
Its happened before for NO REASONS!
In the 70s my high school science teacher said we would go into an iceage!
Its cold today in the Midwest!
 
2014-03-25 02:00:37 PM  
"Sell Mortimer, sell!!!".jpg
 
2014-03-25 02:00:45 PM  
time to build huge underground cisterns and make desalination plants
 
2014-03-25 02:00:47 PM  

Rapmaster2000: OK, so answer me this question, libs.  Did you ever notice that when an ice cube melts that it doesn't make the glass over flow?  Exactly.  The glaciers are the same way.  We should be more concerned about Antarctica floating up to Miami and making it really cold.  Didn't think about that, did you?


Hey...that gives me an idea
img.fark.net

Problem solved...Once and for all!
 
2014-03-25 02:01:03 PM  
In before "the global temperature hasn't risen in 15 years".  That's one of their current favorites.
 
2014-03-25 02:01:21 PM  

LarryDan43: Al Gore!
Its happened before for NO REASONS!
In the 70s my high school science teacher said we would go into an iceage!
Its cold today in the Midwest!


I think this pretty much sums up how this thread is going to play out.
 
2014-03-25 02:03:07 PM  

LarryDan43: Al Gore!
Its happened before for NO REASONS!
In the 70s my high school science teacher said we would go into an iceage!
Its cold today in the Midwest!


We broke the high temperature record yesterday were I am in the PNW.
 
2014-03-25 02:03:23 PM  

papatex: FTFA "Participating scientists say warming won't cause wars, but it will add a destabilizing factor that will make existing threats worse."

This is where they lost me.

"You know Jim, I've really had it with you leaving your empties on my lawn. It's a good thing it's stayed a little colder otherwise I'd have to punch you in the face."

facepalm.jpg


Yes, that's actually how it works. Violent crime goes up in cities during hotter summers. And there's a large amount of evidence to suggest that high temperatures and extreme rainfall plays a role in larger conflicts.
 
2014-03-25 02:03:35 PM  
"The polar bear is us," says Patricia Romero Lankao of the federally financed National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colo., referring to the first species to be listed as threatened by global warming due to melting sea ice.

"We have met the polar bear, and the polar bear is us."
static.tvtropes.org
 
2014-03-25 02:04:12 PM  
I don't look to the Weather Channel for climate reports. I go to the Climate Channel.
 
2014-03-25 02:04:27 PM  
FTFA:

If climate change continues, the panel's larger report predicts these harms:
Violence:For the first time, the panel is emphasizing the nuanced link between conflict and warming temperatures. Participating scientists say warming won't cause wars, but it will add a destabilizing factor that will make existing threats worse.
Food:Global food prices will rise between 3 and 84 percent by 2050 because of warmer temperatures and changes in rain patterns. Hotspots of hunger may emerge in cities.
Water:About one-third of the world's population will see groundwater supplies drop by more than 10 percent by 2080, when compared with 1980 levels. For every degree of warming, more of the world will have significantly less water available.
Health: Major increases in health problems are likely, with more illnesses and injury from heat waves and fires and more food and water-borne diseases. But the report also notes that warming's effects on health is relatively small compared with other problems, like poverty.
Wealth:Many of the poor will get poorer. Economic growth and poverty reduction will slow down. If temperatures rise high enough, the world's overall income may start to go down, by as much as 2 percent, but that's difficult to forecast.

In other words, not terribly much says the worst predictive algorithms ever.  I love the error bars on their predictions... 3 and 84 percent, that's excellent computing there Lou.
 
2014-03-25 02:04:28 PM  
"It's only a theory, you can't prove nuttin'!"3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-25 02:04:39 PM  

Rapmaster2000: OK, so answer me this question, libs.  Did you ever notice that when an ice cube melts that it doesn't make the glass over flow?  Exactly.  The glaciers are the same way.  We should be more concerned about Antarctica floating up to Miami and making it really cold.  Didn't think about that, did you?


i.telegraph.co.uk
Hey, Mabel, want to see the Statue of Liberty?
 
2014-03-25 02:06:34 PM  
Again?  I thought we already burned up and froze to death already.  Or was it we already died of SARS and Swine Flu.  I can't keep up with the stupid.  Dammit I didn't take these courses in college!
 
2014-03-25 02:09:56 PM  
Face it, folks, the world ends when you die anyways, so we all experience an apocalypse of sorts.  If you don't have any children, what does it matter if the world ends five minutes after you're dead and buried?  And even if the doomsayers' predictions are true, I doubt that the human race will go extinct before my nieces and nephews live to a ripe old age.  On top of that, consider how close the human race came to a nuclear doomsday during the Cuban Missile Crisis, and nobody seems too terribly bummed out about that.  If the world is going to end in 100 or 1000 years, that's just another excuse to go catch a buzz today...
 
2014-03-25 02:11:10 PM  
Is anyone else still getting major lag with Netflix? Pissing me off!
 
2014-03-25 02:11:38 PM  

Rapmaster2000: OK, so answer me this question, libs.  Did you ever notice that when an ice cube melts that it doesn't make the glass over flow?  Exactly.  The glaciers are the same way.  We should be more concerned about Antarctica floating up to Miami and making it really cold.  Didn't think about that, did you?


Watching a PBS thingy on GW a few weeks ago.  They kept showing what they considered to be a glacier that was shrinking.  But, it was just calving, and the mouth of the glacier, (and its extent toward the sea), remained unchanged.   Completely unchanged, through months and months of time-lapse photography.

So, I am not sure what the heck they were trying to exemplify.

Anyway, show me ANY instance of sea-level rise.  If it rose anywhere, it would rise everywhere, right?  Global ocean, and all that.

Show me.
 
2014-03-25 02:14:15 PM  

MooseBayou: Rapmaster2000: OK, so answer me this question, libs.  Did you ever notice that when an ice cube melts that it doesn't make the glass over flow?  Exactly.  The glaciers are the same way.  We should be more concerned about Antarctica floating up to Miami and making it really cold.  Didn't think about that, did you?

Watching a PBS thingy on GW a few weeks ago.  They kept showing what they considered to be a glacier that was shrinking.  But, it was just calving, and the mouth of the glacier, (and its extent toward the sea), remained unchanged.   Completely unchanged, through months and months of time-lapse photography.

So, I am not sure what the heck they were trying to exemplify.

Anyway, show me ANY instance of sea-level rise.  If it rose anywhere, it would rise everywhere, right?  Global ocean, and all that.

Show me.


sealevel.colorado.edu

http://sealevel.colorado.edu/
 
2014-03-25 02:14:15 PM  
I think it's time for everyone to picnic!
 
2014-03-25 02:14:26 PM  

eurotrader: If the sea level increased by a few meters because of glacier melt it would solve a more problems than it would cause.


Fark would have to get rid of the Florida tag...
 
2014-03-25 02:15:01 PM  

abhorrent1: Global food prices will rise between 3 and 84 percent

Yeah, well I predict it may rise a little, a lot, or not at all. Could I be right?


Not to mention - the worst case scenario of 84 percent rise by 2050 would only be a ~1.7% average annual increase... unless they mean a rise in prices above projected inflation.
 
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2014-03-25 02:16:00 PM  
I'll be dead in 20 years (or less) so, all of you enjoy your disaster.
 
2014-03-25 02:18:16 PM  

Rapmaster2000: OK, so answer me this question, libs.  Did you ever notice that when an ice cube melts that it doesn't make the glass over flow?  Exactly.  The glaciers are the same way.  We should be more concerned about Antarctica floating up to Miami and making it really cold.  Didn't think about that, did you?


One of my friend's father used this exact example in all seriousness.

/This thread got really stupid, really fast.
 
2014-03-25 02:18:19 PM  
My suggestion for the slogan to sum up the 2010's;
Time to Panic
 
2014-03-25 02:19:28 PM  

SlothB77: Are these a) the guys that said this winter was going to be warmer than ever,


http://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2014/03/19/global-climate-repor t -winter/6606079/
"...registering the eighth warmest overall winter on record."

Apparently those guys weren't too far off.
 
2014-03-25 02:19:33 PM  

MooseBayou: If it rose anywhere, it would rise everywhere, right? Global ocean, and all that.


http://geography.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.st ra ightdope.com/classics/a5%5F046.html
 
2014-03-25 02:20:16 PM  

dillengest: MooseBayou: Rapmaster2000: OK, so answer me this question, libs.  Did you ever notice that when an ice cube melts that it doesn't make the glass over flow?  Exactly.  The glaciers are the same way.  We should be more concerned about Antarctica floating up to Miami and making it really cold.  Didn't think about that, did you?

Watching a PBS thingy on GW a few weeks ago.  They kept showing what they considered to be a glacier that was shrinking.  But, it was just calving, and the mouth of the glacier, (and its extent toward the sea), remained unchanged.   Completely unchanged, through months and months of time-lapse photography.

So, I am not sure what the heck they were trying to exemplify.

Anyway, show me ANY instance of sea-level rise.  If it rose anywhere, it would rise everywhere, right?  Global ocean, and all that.

Show me.

[sealevel.colorado.edu image 531x370]

http://sealevel.colorado.edu/


3 mm per year?  Scary stuff.

Anyway, I said show me.  Like this:
www.exposureguide.com
It ain't rising.  You're getting shorter.
 
2014-03-25 02:21:10 PM  
Another thing these climatologists failed to take into account:  birth rates around the world are plummeting.  In many Asian countries, the fertility rate is about 1-1.3 kids per woman, well below replacement.  If water is drying up and crop yields are falling in the long term, that will be offset by the decline in world population.  Seriously, the world's nuclear arsenal is scarier than global warming, IMHO.

I live in Minnesota where the winters sometimes reach -20 Fahrenheit.  Global warming is making the winters more tolerable.  This winter was the coldest one in 20-30 years and would have been considered normal back when I was a kid.  Also, only North America had a colder-than-normal winter this year; Australia got baked by heat wave, and the temperature was elevated for most of the world outside of NA...
 
2014-03-25 02:22:31 PM  
Eh, close enough to use...


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And there are people who believe this.
 
2014-03-25 02:23:41 PM  

Micanope: My suggestion for the slogan to sum up the 2010's;
Time to Panic


Really, that was the 00's, we just decided to argue about it instead of panicking like we should have.
 
2014-03-25 02:24:19 PM  
Slow boiling frogs
 
2014-03-25 02:25:03 PM  

MooseBayou: 3 mm per year?  Scary stuff.


30 cm over 100 years is actually pretty nontrivial when it comes to flood defense and erosion.  And that assumes that the sea level rise doesn't accelerate.  But it will accelerate (absent strong emissions controls).

www.scilogs.de
 
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