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(Chicago Trib)   Has Wal-Mart become a welfare queen after revealing it is dependent on food stamps?   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 74
    More: Interesting, Walmart, welfare queen, Michael Hiltzik, median household income, welfare programs, Barry Ritholtz  
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2014-03-25 10:53:51 AM
9 votes:
4.bp.blogspot.com
2014-03-25 12:45:58 PM
8 votes:
img.fark.net
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-03-25 09:17:17 AM
7 votes:
We'll find out when Obama decrees any business accepting food stamps has to pay its workers $15 per hour plus a free rainbow flag on Harvey Milk's birthday. If they go along, they're addicted to welfare.
2014-03-25 10:44:12 AM
6 votes:
Is this where we say; Oh SNAP
2014-03-25 09:18:04 AM
6 votes:
Wal-Mart CEOs, Presidents and Board of Directors should have to undergo drug tests every month. Also, they shouldn't spend their billions on lobster, cigarettes or soda.

Rep Paul Ryan is going to have a field day going after Wal-Mart! Right?
2014-03-25 10:48:58 AM
5 votes:
Finally we figured out what is trickling down...food stamps.

Reaganomics is a success!
2014-03-25 10:40:51 AM
5 votes:
Much of this problem would be solved if some of these people would choose to stop being poor.
2014-03-25 10:41:08 AM
4 votes:

doublesecretprobation: 1) drive wages so low your employees qualify for food stamps
2) profit

/welcome to wal-mart, i love you.


Walmarts wages are above minimum. Typically 50 people show up to apply for every position.

The Other thing is that if that money were not being taxed or borrowed out of the economy, it would still exist....and it would still create economic activity. The fact that Obama is trying to funnel as much of the economy through the Government as possible to create dependence is the real topic here.

Perhaps some of those people could find jobs if we didnt have 38 Trillion dollars per year in Economic activity being prevented by regulation. Wages for the bottom 30% of Americas workforce represent something like a Trillion dollars of the GDP....so merely reducing targeted regulation by 3% could double those workers wages through normal economic forces like supply and demand.

But liberals wont do that because it is more important for them to have control than it is for the lower class to double its wealth.
2014-03-25 12:46:49 PM
3 votes:
"I got laid off and can't find another job in my field."

"Slacker! You should just get a job, any job! Its better than living off the UE teat, you parasite."

"Err ok. Walmart's the only other local place hiring that doesn't require years of further education. But they don't pay so good and I have a family to feed."

"Idiot! Jobs like Walmart weren't meant to support you. Go get a different job and get off the foodstamp teat, you parasite."

"Err ok. But now after going back to college and getting a new degree, I'm buried in debt and can't possibly hope to climb out of this financial hole."

"You should have gotten a degree in Job Creationism then, parasite!"
2014-03-25 11:04:03 AM
3 votes:

factoryconnection: Never mind that our $15T+ GDP is being held back by a factor of 240% by regulations... it all seems airtight.


If companies could just dump toxic waste directly into the soil it would make poor people 20 billion dollars a year, study it out libs.
2014-03-25 10:43:11 AM
3 votes:

doublesecretprobation: 1) drive wages so low your employees qualify for food stamps
2) profit

/welcome to wal-mart, i love you.


Haven't you ever loved anything so much you crippled it so it couldn't get away to be with anyone else?
2014-03-25 10:35:47 AM
3 votes:
Always low expectations

/Always
2014-03-25 10:35:39 AM
3 votes:
Y-you mean the Republicans cunning plan to starve the country is coming back to bite the ass of one of it's bigger benefactors?

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2014-03-25 09:23:27 AM
3 votes:
1) drive wages so low your employees qualify for food stamps
2) profit

/welcome to wal-mart, i love you.
2014-03-25 09:17:13 AM
3 votes:
that should be an embarrassment to every American. That our largest corporations and our richest family is on welfare.
2014-03-25 01:59:01 PM
2 votes:

Mrs.Sharpier: Wal-Mart CEOs, Presidents and Board of Directors should have to undergo drug tests every month. Also, they shouldn't spend their billions on lobster, cigarettes or soda.

Rep Paul Ryan is going to have a field day going after Wal-Mart! Right?


99.99% of Walmart executives own a REFRIGERATOR!
2014-03-25 12:56:28 PM
2 votes:
It's only the inner city walmarts that have that problem.  they don't have a culture of work.  the rural walmarts are all PhDs and put themselves through technical college while buying products at hobby lobby.
2014-03-25 12:30:04 PM
2 votes:
Stop attacking Wal-Mart. Without them, fat and vulgar moms would have no sanctuary to smack their feral offspring upside the head.
2014-03-25 12:19:14 PM
2 votes:
So much anecdotal evidence! Well since we're just going to throw out our own stories here goes: I work around wealthy people all day, every day.  Let me tell you, they are all assholes.  Every single last one of them.  I have proof of this, but I'd rather you all just took my word for it.
2014-03-25 10:59:18 AM
2 votes:

Three Crooked Squirrels: Is this satire?


How could it be?  The premise is so rock-solid: if we reduce regulation in this country to the tune of +$1T in economic impact, all the benefit will go to low-level employees, thus doubling their take-home pay.

Isn't that how businesses always react to windfalls?

Never mind that our $15T+ GDP is being held back by a factor of 240% by regulations... it all seems airtight.
2014-03-25 10:55:10 AM
2 votes:

Linux_Yes: Brilliant!   throw the baby out with the bathwater.  as long as its not your baby.   i smell a republican again.  well done!


Do people still throw out bath water?  I mean, isn't easier just to let it go down the drain?  Babies don't go down drains very well...
2014-03-25 10:49:16 AM
2 votes:

MyRandomName: More proof liberal policies are really the corporate welfare.



yea, when i think of huge mega corporations in 'murica who own (because they can afford it) our  Legislators, i think of Liberal policies.   brilliant!  no one can fool you!
2014-03-25 10:46:41 AM
2 votes:

archichris: But liberals wont do that because it is more important for them to have control than it is for the lower class to double its wealth.


3.bp.blogspot.com
2014-03-25 10:39:06 AM
2 votes:
Clearly, the solution is to give the super-rich tax cuts.

The Waltons could then continue with their job creation duties. They won't do that, though, unless we cut their taxes even more, because we're hostage to their whims or something.
2014-03-25 10:37:01 AM
2 votes:
More proof liberal policies are really the corporate welfare.
2014-03-25 10:36:41 AM
2 votes:

SovietCanuckistan: Is Walmart Black and poor?


Just their employees.
2014-03-25 10:36:03 AM
2 votes:
Eliminate food stamps.

Problem solved.
2014-03-25 10:27:53 AM
2 votes:

what_now: I love that we're picking on Wal Mart and not that other huge employer who's employees are often on food stamps because the pay is so low: The US Armed Forces.


None of this is as sexy as 'mudslide: the muddening' or 'airplane 3: disappered?' or 'crimea river, ukraine too much russia'

You are asking for real change.
2014-03-25 10:13:18 AM
2 votes:
I love that we're picking on Wal Mart and not that other huge employer who's employees are often on food stamps because the pay is so low: The US Armed Forces.
2014-03-25 04:23:21 PM
1 votes:

stonicus: I bought a reversible belt from Wal-Mart a few weeks ago.  It fits well and was a reasonable price.


one side gives you cancer and the other just a rash, the fun is finding out which is which.
2014-03-25 04:09:13 PM
1 votes:

Mike Chewbacca: Besides, only 5000 folks on SNAP listed their occupation as active duty military. It's hardly a rampant problem, considering we have 1.5 million people on active duty. Just 1/3 of 1%.


1/3 of 1% ?!? Sweet honey mustard! I had no idea it was that much!

Hell, PBS was only getting .012 of 1% of the federal budget, and Mitt Romney's Lickspittle Brigade were practically sh#tting themselves over it for months.
2014-03-25 04:08:15 PM
1 votes:
I bought a reversible belt from Wal-Mart a few weeks ago.  It fits well and was a reasonable price.
2014-03-25 02:50:36 PM
1 votes:

Bazzlex001: Has anyone mentioned that this has allowed Wal-Mart to externalize one of its largest costs, which has allowed it to compete at an unnatural level in the marketplace, allowing it to become as large as it is today by swallowing up entire communities worth of other establishments?


Well said. I had a Republican friend in college who had a housecat that he used to let out all day so it could pass the time by killing birds and small animals in the neighborhood. He defended the practice because "cats are part of nature." He completely missed the point that animals that are actually "part of nature" don't get to sleep in a safe house with food and water provided. They're part of the food chain, not simply visitors to it.

By absorbing every possible benefit available to corporations, and simultaneously pushing off their payroll responsibilities onto the American taxpayer, Walmart is that cat: big, lazy, and stupid, but continually patted on the head by simple-minded Republicans who refuse to understand the big picture even when it's pointed out to them.
2014-03-25 02:46:08 PM
1 votes:

menschenfresser: I've been in SuperWalmarts (or whatever they're called) and man alive, it's so depressing that you want to shoot yourself in the head. I don't know why anybody would go in one of those. Plus, they usually smell like pee somehow.


Check the vegetables. They're damp from the WalMart night shift...
2014-03-25 01:35:07 PM
1 votes:

svanmeter: Born_Again_Bavarian: jst3p: Alonjar: meat0918: I dunno, I think we should pay those guys a bit more than that.  I know they get hazard pay (they do get hazard pay right?!?!?) when deployed, but they should be getting a bit more given the risk they are assumed to be taking.

$18,000 is their paycheck... they also get free healthcare,  free food and free housing.  When you factor in the benefits, it ends up being way more than just the base pay.

Tax free, right?

Sub $20k wage earners aren't pay much if anything in federal taxes.  They do pay payroll taxes, of course.  All of their allowances (BAH, BAS, etc) are tax free.  The healthcare expense isn't even seen by the military member.  If you enlisted from a state where they pay state income taxes, change your home residence state..  You can pick any state you want.

It is shameful how little my son in the Army is paid. It is even more shameful that the government just CUT the military's pay even further. ¡Que vergüenza señor Obama!


What the crap are you talking about? We just got a 1.8 percent pay raise. Your son is lying to you so he doesn't have to send as much money home, the little puta.
2014-03-25 01:29:45 PM
1 votes:

Mathematics of Wonton Burrito Meals: Hobodeluxe: yeah I mean what kind of problems could 60 million hungry people cause?

60 million people to get a job and not be bums?


Hey, everyone!  Look at this idiot who thinks people on food stamps don't have jobs!  Even though the whole point of the article we're discussing is that there are so many people with jobs who still can't afford food!  Pointing and laughing is free, but if you want a tomato to throw that'll cost you (food stamps accepted).
2014-03-25 01:08:48 PM
1 votes:

Bazzlex001: Has anyone mentioned that this has allowed Wal-Mart to externalize one of its largest costs, which has allowed it to compete at an unnatural level in the marketplace, allowing it to become as large as it is today by swallowing up entire communities worth of other establishments?


Some of its other costs are also externalized. How many Supercenters do you think open without some kind of tax break?

Small town Fox News viewers: "Wal-Mart is interested in our town? Our economy will explode! Do anything they want to get them here!"

(2 years later)

Small town Fox News viewers: "All the small business in our town are gone, and Wal-Mart is our biggest employer. Most of Wal-Mart's employees are on food stamps. This is the liberals' fault!"
2014-03-25 12:59:23 PM
1 votes:
Well I guess it trickled down...
2014-03-25 12:57:26 PM
1 votes:

jst3p: The Holy Mackerel: Stop attacking Wal-Mart. Without them, fat and vulgar moms would have no sanctuary to smack their feral offspring upside the head.

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2014-03-25 12:45:07 PM
1 votes:

Yellow Beard: I see my son's paycheck every 2 weeks as I deposit it for him. Honestly, I've only asked my niece and her fiance about the whole food stamp counseling thing and have not asked to see their paychecks.


Your son has a nice gig going for him, having a personal secretary and all
2014-03-25 12:44:25 PM
1 votes:

Carn: If you're in favor of large corporations paying sub-standard wages



Let us know what a standard wage is.  Thx.
2014-03-25 12:33:51 PM
1 votes:
so now that we know food stamps are going to big multi-national corporations, we're good, right Republicans?
2014-03-25 12:31:07 PM
1 votes:

The Holy Mackerel: Stop attacking Wal-Mart. Without them, fat and vulgar moms would have no sanctuary to smack their feral offspring upside the head.


i2.cdn.turner.com
2014-03-25 12:21:24 PM
1 votes:

AllYourFarkAreBelongToMe: firefly212: MemeSlave: firefly212: BMFPitt: Hey, it's this thread again. Always interesting to see the people who most strongly support these programs get butthurt because they are working as designed.

To be clear, I support food stamps because nobody should go hungry. I support a reasonable minimum wage because nobody who works 40 hours a week should need food stamps.

People need to start the race at the same point, not finish it at the same point.

I'm not saying everyone should finish at the same point and we should all by communists... I'm saying starting the race should mean that nobody starves to death in the richest country in the world. I'm also saying that if you work 40 hours a week, you should be making enough to provide basic food, healthcare, and shelter to your family... nobody's saying finish the race at the same point, except for you.

The only people who starve to death in the US are children of welfare recipients who use their hand-outs to buy dope rather than food.  Link me to an article where someone who can walk and talk has starved to death here in the past 50 years.  Also, as has been pointed out up-thread, WalMart is like McD', BK, KFC, etc.  It's a starting point for kids, or a way for older people to pick up some walking around money.  I doubt very many people take a job there expecting to make a career out of it.  Don't like their policies, don't take a job there and don't shop there.  Never see so much whiny butt-hurt in any threads (politics tab excepted) than in the weekly "WalMart sucks threads.  For fark's sake, it's nobody's fault but your own that you can't get a better job.  Maybe instead of wasting all that money on a worthless BA in quilting you should have gone to trade school?   But no.  Let's all blame somebody else for our own shortcomings and demand people make $40K/year + Bennies for knowing how to stock shelves, and in which aisle I can find toilet paper.


Do they make bootstraps big enough for you?
2014-03-25 12:16:25 PM
1 votes:
Lotta angry, selfish little men, fussing and fuming on Fark this morning.
2014-03-25 12:14:50 PM
1 votes:

m1ke: Linux_Yes: Brilliant!   throw the baby out with the bathwater.  as long as its not your baby.   i smell a republican again.  well done!

Do people still throw out bath water?  I mean, isn't easier just to let it go down the drain?  Babies don't go down drains very well...


Yeah, but try telling THEM that. Those little bastards are terrified of getting sucked down.
2014-03-25 12:07:48 PM
1 votes:

Hobodeluxe: that should be an embarrassment to every American. That our largest corporations and our richest family is on welfare.


We should drug test all of their executives and managers monthly until they get their act together
2014-03-25 12:07:32 PM
1 votes:

Hobodeluxe: that should be an embarrassment to every American. That our largest corporations and our richest family is on welfare.


It works for England...
2014-03-25 11:58:24 AM
1 votes:

dascott: Living high on the hog on welfare, that's a good one.

Those people might exist, and we have a word for them: Criminals.


And here I thought we called them the WalMart Board of Directors.
2014-03-25 11:38:21 AM
1 votes:

MFAWG: SovietCanuckistan: Is Walmart Black and poor?

Just their employees customers.


FTFY
2014-03-25 11:33:40 AM
1 votes:

Nemo's Brother: Of course, the banks own Obama so he will not speak against them, thus there will be no pressure from the left to fix this.


The right wing would like to know: Why hasn't Obama fixed a problem we care nothing about?
2014-03-25 11:28:02 AM
1 votes:

quietwalker: As someone who's family was on food stamps and government cheese for most of my adolescent life, who's girlfriend throughout highschool was living in subsidized housing with her part-time-work-only mom and 2 siblings, I can say this: In America, you have to choose to go hungry if you're poor.

That choice might be expressed by spending money on cable and trading benefits for cash to buy lottery tickets, but you have to deliberately make those choices. As the mexican immigrants say, "In America, even the poor people are fat."

So it makes good copy, but it's not true that the poor people starve. Not unless they want to.


Good point. You know what poverty is like. You were on food stamps. You were on welfare. But did anyone come along and help you out? No. So it makes perfect sense to cut food stamps now.
2014-03-25 11:27:08 AM
1 votes:

Hobodeluxe: SevenizGud: Eliminate food stamps.

Problem solved.

yeah I mean what kind of problems could 60 million hungry people cause?


Use the money saved to buy anti-personnel rounds.
2014-03-25 11:22:47 AM
1 votes:
Slavery is alive and well in America.

Ya know, I hope they do cancel food stamps and every other form of welfare. Cut benefits to veterans, cut funding to police and fire departments, cut any kind of social assistance, fark the healthcare system to hell and back, and deregulate everything.  Do it. DO IT! And then we'll see just how fast you can run motherfarker. Guarantee not all of ya will make it out of the country before the lynch mob gets ahold of ya.
2014-03-25 11:22:13 AM
1 votes:
static.giantbomb.com
2014-03-25 11:19:27 AM
1 votes:
I can't tell what is satire and what is real in this thread. Somebody hold me.
2014-03-25 11:17:22 AM
1 votes:

Hobodeluxe: that should be an embarrassment to every American. That our largest corporations and our richest family is on welfare.


We're an embarrassment to the planet.
2014-03-25 11:13:47 AM
1 votes:

NutWrench: mekki: How the hell are these people are considered job creators?

Actually, they're really "wealth creators." A subtle but important difference because they don't create wealth for ordinary people.
And by "ordinary people" I mean people who don't own platinum-shafted polo mallets or buy jets made out of diamonds and veal.


I prefer "wealth transferers".
2014-03-25 11:05:36 AM
1 votes:
Become? WalMart was the welfare queen this entire time.

And you all are all suspicious of Shaniqua. WalMart is the one with the diamond-encrusted spinnerz.
2014-03-25 11:01:01 AM
1 votes:
I don't think people know how this works? If low/mid-range wages go up the working poor who don't qualify for food stamps and such will no longer be able to shop even at Wal-mart because Wal-mart will raise their prices. Then businesses will lay people off which will put even more stress on the welfare system.

Things will then adjust themselves and the dust will settle. What will be left will be a even BIGGER gap between the working poor and rich (making more money) but things now cost more. The upper middle class will never be able to get ahead and will not be able to retire until 70.

Why do we keep doing this? It's not working.  How about champing around bringing real jobs back to America? Not vilifying fast food and the Wal-marts of the world that have always been teen jobs or part time extra money jobs. These are people who want to work yet can't find anything and or are unqualified. These are not high skilled jobs meant to support families. If we bring back jobs then maybe households will be able to pay a little more for things and buy American again.
2014-03-25 11:00:23 AM
1 votes:

archichris: But liberals wont do that because it is more important for them to have control than it is for the lower class to double its wealth.


Yes that's it!  You've discovered our cunning plan.

/Watchout.  Those clever cons are on to us.
2014-03-25 10:54:46 AM
1 votes:

anuran: Carn: If you're in favor of large corporations paying sub-standard wages you're also in favor of your tax dollars going towards welfare to fill in the gap between those wages and a living wage, whether or notyou are smart enough to understand it or honest enough to admit it.  Well the third option is you're a sociopath who says "f*ck em" but one usually hopes that sociopaths don't get to drive policy.

You've never heard of John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, Rand Paul or FOX News, have you?


I said hope.  Maybe wish would be better.  After 20 years of derp, and 30+ years of de-regulation and pro-crony-capitalism, I'm hoping we can have a couple years where rational thought and actual facts can drive dialogue.  This will probably happen right after I find my unicorn and/or leprechaun and pot of gold.

Institute the $10.10 minimum wage across the board (including for servers) and start a new Federal Works Projects Agency to rebuild our infrastructure.  Those two things will do wonders for our economy.
2014-03-25 10:52:52 AM
1 votes:

Dusk-You-n-Me: How about instead of you the taxpayer paying to support Walmart workers, Walmart does.


but that's un'murican!   that's unfreemarket capitalism!
2014-03-25 10:52:26 AM
1 votes:
Mmmm...food stamps...

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2014-03-25 10:51:35 AM
1 votes:

hinten: There is nothing more communist than capitalist America. I first noticed this when McDonald's was handing out uniforms and stars to employees in the seventies and enforced sameness across locations, outfits and product. it hasn't changed since then.
American capitalists are the big equalizers: We are all the same just not before the government but before our corporate gods.



Under a capitalist system, man exploits man.
under a communist one, its just the opposite.  --renowned american economist john kenneth gabraith.
2014-03-25 10:50:51 AM
1 votes:
I will accept both Welfare & EBT cards with great pride. Thank you.
2014-03-25 10:49:27 AM
1 votes:

what_now: I love that we're picking on Wal Mart and not that other huge employer who's employees are often on food stamps because the pay is so low: The US Armed Forces.


My other love is that the mention of "walmart is often the largest private employer with the most employees on government assistance" in these articles. What's usually left out, state employees are number 1 in many cases. But, state employees make too much, right?
2014-03-25 10:49:16 AM
1 votes:

archichris: doublesecretprobation: 1) drive wages so low your employees qualify for food stamps
2) profit

/welcome to wal-mart, i love you.

Walmarts wages are above minimum. Typically 50 people show up to apply for every position.

The Other thing is that if that money were not being taxed or borrowed out of the economy, it would still exist....and it would still create economic activity. The fact that Obama is trying to funnel as much of the economy through the Government as possible to create dependence is the real topic here.

Perhaps some of those people could find jobs if we didnt have 38 Trillion dollars per year in Economic activity being prevented by regulation. Wages for the bottom 30% of Americas workforce represent something like a Trillion dollars of the GDP....so merely reducing targeted regulation by 3% could double those workers wages through normal economic forces like supply and demand.

But liberals wont do that because it is more important for them to have control than it is for the lower class to double its wealth.


Is this satire?
2014-03-25 10:48:34 AM
1 votes:

Carn: If you're in favor of large corporations paying sub-standard wages you're also in favor of your tax dollars going towards welfare to fill in the gap between those wages and a living wage, whether or notyou are smart enough to understand it or honest enough to admit it.  Well the third option is you're a sociopath who says "f*ck em" but one usually hopes that sociopaths don't get to drive policy.


You've never heard of John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, Rand Paul or FOX News, have you?
2014-03-25 10:46:54 AM
1 votes:
Become?
2014-03-25 10:46:39 AM
1 votes:

SevenizGud: Eliminate food stamps.

Problem solved.


Brilliant!   throw the baby out with the bathwater.  as long as its not your baby.   i smell a republican again.  well done!
2014-03-25 10:40:07 AM
1 votes:
MaoMart: We exploit cheap, communist (according to CIA.gov) chinese labor so you don't have to!!


God, stockholders do love Freedom!
2014-03-25 10:35:34 AM
1 votes:
Is Walmart Black and poor?
2014-03-25 09:32:37 AM
1 votes:

ZAZ: any business accepting food stamps has to pay its workers $15 per hour


Huh.  I'm sure there are many unintended consequences that will be pointed out to me, but at first glance, I'd support that businesses accepting food stamps should pay $10.10.
 
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