doublesecretprobation: 1) drive wages so low your employees qualify for food stamps2) profit/welcome to wal-mart, i love you.
factoryconnection: Never mind that our $15T+ GDP is being held back by a factor of 240% by regulations... it all seems airtight.
Mrs.Sharpier: Wal-Mart CEOs, Presidents and Board of Directors should have to undergo drug tests every month. Also, they shouldn't spend their billions on lobster, cigarettes or soda.Rep Paul Ryan is going to have a field day going after Wal-Mart! Right?
Three Crooked Squirrels: Is this satire?
Linux_Yes: Brilliant! throw the baby out with the bathwater. as long as its not your baby. i smell a republican again. well done!
MyRandomName: More proof liberal policies are really the corporate welfare.
archichris: But liberals wont do that because it is more important for them to have control than it is for the lower class to double its wealth.
SovietCanuckistan: Is Walmart Black and poor?
what_now: I love that we're picking on Wal Mart and not that other huge employer who's employees are often on food stamps because the pay is so low: The US Armed Forces.
stonicus: I bought a reversible belt from Wal-Mart a few weeks ago. It fits well and was a reasonable price.
Mike Chewbacca: Besides, only 5000 folks on SNAP listed their occupation as active duty military. It's hardly a rampant problem, considering we have 1.5 million people on active duty. Just 1/3 of 1%.
Bazzlex001: Has anyone mentioned that this has allowed Wal-Mart to externalize one of its largest costs, which has allowed it to compete at an unnatural level in the marketplace, allowing it to become as large as it is today by swallowing up entire communities worth of other establishments?
menschenfresser: I've been in SuperWalmarts (or whatever they're called) and man alive, it's so depressing that you want to shoot yourself in the head. I don't know why anybody would go in one of those. Plus, they usually smell like pee somehow.
svanmeter: Born_Again_Bavarian: jst3p: Alonjar: meat0918: I dunno, I think we should pay those guys a bit more than that. I know they get hazard pay (they do get hazard pay right?!?!?) when deployed, but they should be getting a bit more given the risk they are assumed to be taking.$18,000 is their paycheck... they also get free healthcare, free food and free housing. When you factor in the benefits, it ends up being way more than just the base pay.Tax free, right?Sub $20k wage earners aren't pay much if anything in federal taxes. They do pay payroll taxes, of course. All of their allowances (BAH, BAS, etc) are tax free. The healthcare expense isn't even seen by the military member. If you enlisted from a state where they pay state income taxes, change your home residence state.. You can pick any state you want.It is shameful how little my son in the Army is paid. It is even more shameful that the government just CUT the military's pay even further. ¡Que vergüenza señor Obama!
Mathematics of Wonton Burrito Meals: Hobodeluxe: yeah I mean what kind of problems could 60 million hungry people cause?60 million people to get a job and not be bums?
jst3p: The Holy Mackerel: Stop attacking Wal-Mart. Without them, fat and vulgar moms would have no sanctuary to smack their feral offspring upside the head.[i2.cdn.turner.com image 340x255]
Yellow Beard: I see my son's paycheck every 2 weeks as I deposit it for him. Honestly, I've only asked my niece and her fiance about the whole food stamp counseling thing and have not asked to see their paychecks.
Carn: If you're in favor of large corporations paying sub-standard wages
The Holy Mackerel: Stop attacking Wal-Mart. Without them, fat and vulgar moms would have no sanctuary to smack their feral offspring upside the head.
AllYourFarkAreBelongToMe: firefly212: MemeSlave: firefly212: BMFPitt: Hey, it's this thread again. Always interesting to see the people who most strongly support these programs get butthurt because they are working as designed.To be clear, I support food stamps because nobody should go hungry. I support a reasonable minimum wage because nobody who works 40 hours a week should need food stamps.People need to start the race at the same point, not finish it at the same point.I'm not saying everyone should finish at the same point and we should all by communists... I'm saying starting the race should mean that nobody starves to death in the richest country in the world. I'm also saying that if you work 40 hours a week, you should be making enough to provide basic food, healthcare, and shelter to your family... nobody's saying finish the race at the same point, except for you.The only people who starve to death in the US are children of welfare recipients who use their hand-outs to buy dope rather than food. Link me to an article where someone who can walk and talk has starved to death here in the past 50 years. Also, as has been pointed out up-thread, WalMart is like McD', BK, KFC, etc. It's a starting point for kids, or a way for older people to pick up some walking around money. I doubt very many people take a job there expecting to make a career out of it. Don't like their policies, don't take a job there and don't shop there. Never see so much whiny butt-hurt in any threads (politics tab excepted) than in the weekly "WalMart sucks threads. For fark's sake, it's nobody's fault but your own that you can't get a better job. Maybe instead of wasting all that money on a worthless BA in quilting you should have gone to trade school? But no. Let's all blame somebody else for our own shortcomings and demand people make $40K/year + Bennies for knowing how to stock shelves, and in which aisle I can find toilet paper.
m1ke: Linux_Yes: Brilliant! throw the baby out with the bathwater. as long as its not your baby. i smell a republican again. well done!Do people still throw out bath water? I mean, isn't easier just to let it go down the drain? Babies don't go down drains very well...
Hobodeluxe: that should be an embarrassment to every American. That our largest corporations and our richest family is on welfare.
dascott: Living high on the hog on welfare, that's a good one.Those people might exist, and we have a word for them: Criminals.
MFAWG: SovietCanuckistan: Is Walmart Black and poor?Just their employees customers.
Nemo's Brother: Of course, the banks own Obama so he will not speak against them, thus there will be no pressure from the left to fix this.
quietwalker: As someone who's family was on food stamps and government cheese for most of my adolescent life, who's girlfriend throughout highschool was living in subsidized housing with her part-time-work-only mom and 2 siblings, I can say this: In America, you have to choose to go hungry if you're poor.That choice might be expressed by spending money on cable and trading benefits for cash to buy lottery tickets, but you have to deliberately make those choices. As the mexican immigrants say, "In America, even the poor people are fat."So it makes good copy, but it's not true that the poor people starve. Not unless they want to.
Hobodeluxe: SevenizGud: Eliminate food stamps.Problem solved.yeah I mean what kind of problems could 60 million hungry people cause?
NutWrench: mekki: How the hell are these people are considered job creators?Actually, they're really "wealth creators." A subtle but important difference because they don't create wealth for ordinary people.And by "ordinary people" I mean people who don't own platinum-shafted polo mallets or buy jets made out of diamonds and veal.
anuran: Carn: If you're in favor of large corporations paying sub-standard wages you're also in favor of your tax dollars going towards welfare to fill in the gap between those wages and a living wage, whether or notyou are smart enough to understand it or honest enough to admit it. Well the third option is you're a sociopath who says "f*ck em" but one usually hopes that sociopaths don't get to drive policy.You've never heard of John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, Rand Paul or FOX News, have you?
Dusk-You-n-Me: How about instead of you the taxpayer paying to support Walmart workers, Walmart does.
hinten: There is nothing more communist than capitalist America. I first noticed this when McDonald's was handing out uniforms and stars to employees in the seventies and enforced sameness across locations, outfits and product. it hasn't changed since then.American capitalists are the big equalizers: We are all the same just not before the government but before our corporate gods.
archichris: doublesecretprobation: 1) drive wages so low your employees qualify for food stamps2) profit/welcome to wal-mart, i love you.Walmarts wages are above minimum. Typically 50 people show up to apply for every position.The Other thing is that if that money were not being taxed or borrowed out of the economy, it would still exist....and it would still create economic activity. The fact that Obama is trying to funnel as much of the economy through the Government as possible to create dependence is the real topic here.Perhaps some of those people could find jobs if we didnt have 38 Trillion dollars per year in Economic activity being prevented by regulation. Wages for the bottom 30% of Americas workforce represent something like a Trillion dollars of the GDP....so merely reducing targeted regulation by 3% could double those workers wages through normal economic forces like supply and demand.But liberals wont do that because it is more important for them to have control than it is for the lower class to double its wealth.
Carn: If you're in favor of large corporations paying sub-standard wages you're also in favor of your tax dollars going towards welfare to fill in the gap between those wages and a living wage, whether or notyou are smart enough to understand it or honest enough to admit it. Well the third option is you're a sociopath who says "f*ck em" but one usually hopes that sociopaths don't get to drive policy.
SevenizGud: Eliminate food stamps.Problem solved.
ZAZ: any business accepting food stamps has to pay its workers $15 per hour
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