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(Chicago Trib)   Has Wal-Mart become a welfare queen after revealing it is dependent on food stamps?   (chicagotribune.com ) divider line
    More: Interesting, Walmart, welfare queen, Michael Hiltzik, median household income, welfare programs, Barry Ritholtz  
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2014-03-25 10:53:40 PM  

Linux_Yes: God, stockholders do love Freedom!


"If there is anything the stockholders hate worse than bad press, it's a bad quarterly report."

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2014-03-25 10:59:58 PM  

jst3p: svanmeter: I've had many jobs but I always left one job for another

svanmeter: I've never quit a job.


One of these two statements you made must be a lie, they can not both be true.


svanmeter: Those people you claim have jobs are quiting in high numbers because it makes more financial sense for them to get obamacare and unemployment.

Lie. You never demonstrated that people were quitting their jobs in high numbers nor their motivation for them doing so. In fact your claim is impossible because it isn't possible to quit your job because you want want to go on the dole and collect unemployment.

svanmeter:

Jst3p: did you learn propaganda techniques from Goebels? You repeat the same lie over and over. Maybe the Germans were gullible enough to believe repeated lies, but I suspect the FARK community may be a little less gullible. Get a life girl.


Do tell about the lies you don't tell...


I said I never quit a job but I did quit in order to take a better job. I guess you feel greatly deceived by such a claim which is regrettable.

Can you stop stalking me now?
 
2014-03-25 11:03:38 PM  

svanmeter: freetomato: svanmeter: freetomato: svanmeter:mLet's compare DD-214's scumbag. Oh wait, you don't have one.

I do have one. 26 years, just retired in January, thank you very much. What you don't get is that fark isn't like Fox or Free Republic, where you can state any outrageous grievance without citation. You have made claims of people quitting their jobs with the sole intent of living off government largesse, yet have not provided one factual citation to support your assertion. Of course you will be called on it. Of course you will be mocked when you fail to back it up. You are relatively new here. A tip. Have your sources at the ready. It makes for a more convincing argument.

You seem like an intelligent guy. I am sure you can find the supporting data that will clear matters right up. I look forward to seeing it.

It just occurred to me what seems far fetched to you, and so self evident to me may be a result of your not living in California. I'm pretty sure there is much information out there which shows how California compares with hand-outs in relation to other states, but I'm not interested enough to research it, nor am I interested in proving anything to you. You strike me as a close minded person who quickly resorts to ad homonym attacks when someone has an opinion that does not fit your world view. If you did in fact serve our country as you say, then I owe you an apology for saying "shame on you" for not serving. I stand by my opinion that our government pays our troops too little and is to generous with "entitlements" for those who are NOT entitled.

I grew up in Citrus Heights, CA, a suburb of Sacramento. My family resides across the narrow neck of CA, from Tahoe to San Francisco. I know Northern California like the back of my hand. My working poor sisters have health insurance for the first time in their lives, and they are thrilled by it. Many of us who have had insurance for years don't get how big a deal that is. I have Tricare, and once my active duty husband retires, Tricare for Life at a reasonable fee. You as a vet have the same VA coverage, right?

Kind of socialist, isn't it? I'm grateful for it. If I get a weird growth or start crapping blood, I can see a doc rather than get admitted in the ER.

I don't begrudge you or your husband. I take issue with welfare cheats and people who use the "safety net" as a hammock. BTW, my issue is with Stockton. You will no doubt be familiar. (Enough said). It is quite easy to have a jaded view of society with that example as a point of reference. I believe I may have misjudged you. You seem like a reasonable person.


I like to think I am reasonable. As I said earlier, in different words, this forum does not suffer fools gladly ( and I love that). Be prepared to support what you say with links, cites, studies....

Redeem yourself, and show us the media coverage of the horde of freeloaders that invaded The Welfare-Gettin' Place. Or the studies, or investigational journalism that supports that story. You just saying it is limp.

You are new to fark. I kind of am too, compared to some. I personally welcome opposing views, when they can back it up with science and research. That makes great debate, and learning opportunity...unless science is scary voodoo and I toss you a happy smily rubber ball and say "bye bye!""


/doh
.
You are showing no science, just emotion.
 
2014-03-25 11:04:57 PM  

svanmeter: jst3p: svanmeter: I've had many jobs but I always left one job for another

svanmeter: I've never quit a job.


One of these two statements you made must be a lie, they can not both be true.


svanmeter: Those people you claim have jobs are quiting in high numbers because it makes more financial sense for them to get obamacare and unemployment.

Lie. You never demonstrated that people were quitting their jobs in high numbers nor their motivation for them doing so. In fact your claim is impossible because it isn't possible to quit your job because you want want to go on the dole and collect unemployment.

svanmeter:

Jst3p: did you learn propaganda techniques from Goebels? You repeat the same lie over and over. Maybe the Germans were gullible enough to believe repeated lies, but I suspect the FARK community may be a little less gullible. Get a life girl.


Do tell about the lies you don't tell...

I said I never quit a job but I did quit in order to take a better job. I guess you feel greatly deceived by such a claim which is regrettable.

Can you stop stalking me now?


Maybe the Germans were gullible enough to believe such spin, but I suspect the Fark community may be a little less gullible.
 
2014-03-25 11:07:16 PM  

jst3p: Social Safety nets aren't pushed but the left because the left wants to help people, it is because the left wants as much of the population dependent on government as possible. Once you are completely dependent on government then the left can control you.


Control?  That's a bit harsh.  We just need votes, so it's like agreeing.  Once you know who to vote for to extend unemployment benefits and lower entitlement thresholds, then you've actually just found a friend.
 
2014-03-25 11:56:30 PM  

inglixthemad: Linux_Yes: SevenizGud: Eliminate food stamps.

Problem solved.

Brilliant!   throw the baby out with the bathwater.  as long as its not your baby.   i smell a republican again.  well done!

Actually, it might be a good short term idea. Eliminate food stamps and say: 'Well, if your employer actually paid you a living wage, you and your kids wouldn't starve.'

Sit back and enjoy the riots.



yea, i didn't think of that perspective.  it would  be a good time to pop some popcorn and crank up CNN.
 
2014-03-26 12:08:39 AM  

inglixthemad: Actually, it might be a good short term idea. Eliminate food stamps and say: 'Well, if your employer actually paid you a living wage, you and your kids wouldn't starve.'

Sit back and enjoy the riots.


Actually, it might be a good long term solution.  Those people don't know how to build a guillotine out of x-boxes and blue ray players.  Much less spell it.  Loot rioting will hardly be a blip on the economy.  And with the taxes lowered on the people being forced to pay for this debacle, real spending would increase.  Meaning spending not going into purchasing Wal-mart's cheap China electronics.  Seems like a win-win-win.
 
2014-03-26 02:47:26 AM  
If you've ever been inside a Wal-Mart at midnight, there is not a single revelation in this article.
 
2014-03-26 11:10:18 AM  

archichris: doublesecretprobation: 1) drive wages so low your employees qualify for food stamps
2) profit

/welcome to wal-mart, i love you.

Walmarts wages are above minimum. Typically 50 people show up to apply for every position.

The Other thing is that if that money were not being taxed or borrowed out of the economy, it would still exist....and it would still create economic activity. The fact that Obama is trying to funnel as much of the economy through the Government as possible to create dependence is the real topic here.

Perhaps some of those people could find jobs if we didnt have 38 Trillion dollars per year in Economic activity being prevented by regulation. Wages for the bottom 30% of Americas workforce represent something like a Trillion dollars of the GDP....so merely reducing targeted regulation by 3% could double those workers wages through normal economic forces like supply and demand.

But liberals wont do that because it is more important for them to have control than it is for the lower class to double its wealth.


Why don't you and your loved ones go take a swim in Galveston Bay right now? When you find yourself drinking the a few pints of that sludge currently sitting on top of the water, come tell me that all government regulation is bad.
 
2014-03-26 06:41:55 PM  

bgilmore5: Why don't you and your loved ones go take a swim in Galveston Bay right now? When you find yourself drinking the a few pints of that sludge currently sitting on top of the water, come tell me that all government regulation is bad.


Because more government regulation would have prevented that spill.
 
2014-03-26 07:22:23 PM  

It's Me Bender: bgilmore5: Why don't you and your loved ones go take a swim in Galveston Bay right now? When you find yourself drinking the a few pints of that sludge currently sitting on top of the water, come tell me that all government regulation is bad.

Because more government regulation would have prevented that spill.


Better enforcement would have.  Brazil and the nations around the North Sea hold British Petroleum to stricter safety standards than the USA does, and it follows them when drilling in their waters, because it doesn't want to lose access to that oil.  It follows much looser standards when drilling offshore of the USA because it can.
 
2014-03-26 11:30:41 PM  

archichris: doublesecretprobation: 1) drive wages so low your employees qualify for food stamps
2) profit

/welcome to wal-mart, i love you.

Walmarts wages are above minimum. Typically 50 people show up to apply for every position.

The Other thing is that if that money were not being taxed or borrowed out of the economy, it would still exist....and it would still create economic activity. The fact that Obama is trying to funnel as much of the economy through the Government as possible to create dependence is the real topic here.

Perhaps some of those people could find jobs if we didnt have 38 Trillion dollars per year in Economic activity being prevented by regulation. Wages for the bottom 30% of Americas workforce represent something like a Trillion dollars of the GDP....so merely reducing targeted regulation by 3% could double those workers wages through normal economic forces like supply and demand.

But liberals wont do that because it is more important for them to have control than it is for the lower class to double its wealth.


Not sure if trolling... 8/10.

Your argument only applies If workers have mobility and are financially secure enough to spend time unemployed between jobs.

Unskilled workers (or skilled workers in saturated professions) would see no benefit and would suffer the most from the consequences of any deregulation as they are the losers in any NIMBY dispute.
 
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