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2014-03-25 01:44:54 PM  

jst3p: svanmeter: Those people you claim have jobs are quiting in high numbers because it makes more financial sense for them to get obamacare and unemployment

You don't get unemployment when you quit you ignorant chud. When you have to lie to make your point it says a lot about your point.


Yeah, I don't know how unemployment works because I've never quit a job. I guess you're the authority on that. Our local welfare office had to set up an additional desk for all the people who quit their jobs because they found it easier to get Obama care and other handouts. Keep that head in the sand there amigo. Algún día dirás...¿Qué pasó? ¿Porqué se calló el gobierno?
 
2014-03-25 01:45:27 PM  

SevenizGud: Eliminate food stamps.

Problem solved.


lol.i.trollyou.com
 
2014-03-25 01:45:36 PM  

svanmeter: jst3p: svanmeter: Those people you claim have jobs are quiting in high numbers because it makes more financial sense for them to get obamacare and unemployment

You don't get unemployment when you quit you ignorant chud. When you have to lie to make your point it says a lot about your point.

Yeah, I don't know how unemployment works because I've never quit a job. I guess you're the authority on that. Our local welfare office had to set up an additional desk for all the people who quit their jobs because they found it easier to get Obama care and other handouts. Keep that head in the sand there amigo. Algún día dirás...¿Qué pasó? ¿Porqué se calló el gobierno?


What the fark is with the spanish in every post? Does that make you feel special?
 
2014-03-25 01:45:44 PM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: archichris: doublesecretprobation: 1) drive wages so low your employees qualify for food stamps
2) profit

/welcome to wal-mart, i love you.

Walmarts wages are above minimum. Typically 50 people show up to apply for every position.

The Other thing is that if that money were not being taxed or borrowed out of the economy, it would still exist....and it would still create economic activity. The fact that Obama is trying to funnel as much of the economy through the Government as possible to create dependence is the real topic here.

Perhaps some of those people could find jobs if we didnt have 38 Trillion dollars per year in Economic activity being prevented by regulation. Wages for the bottom 30% of Americas workforce represent something like a Trillion dollars of the GDP....so merely reducing targeted regulation by 3% could double those workers wages through normal economic forces like supply and demand.

But liberals wont do that because it is more important for them to have control than it is for the lower class to double its wealth.

Is this satire?


I believe it is. Just slightly too over the top to be real.

Good effort, though.
 
2014-03-25 01:47:53 PM  

meat0918: Here it is


It's raining lunch, hallelujah!
 
2014-03-25 01:47:54 PM  

Headso: GnomePaladin: Headso: archichris: But liberals wont do that because it is more important for them to have control than it is for the lower class to double its wealth.

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That looks like a great lifestyle, but how am I supposed to learn about it??

oh it is your lucky day my friend, for just 17 easy installments of 99.95 you can have all the secrets to double your wealth on 6 vhs tapes.


Is there "one weird trick" involved?
 
2014-03-25 01:48:24 PM  

jayphat: svanmeter: jst3p: svanmeter: Those people you claim have jobs are quiting in high numbers because it makes more financial sense for them to get obamacare and unemployment

You don't get unemployment when you quit you ignorant chud. When you have to lie to make your point it says a lot about your point.

Yeah, I don't know how unemployment works because I've never quit a job. I guess you're the authority on that. Our local welfare office had to set up an additional desk for all the people who quit their jobs because they found it easier to get Obama care and other handouts. Keep that head in the sand there amigo. Algún día dirás...¿Qué pasó? ¿Porqué se calló el gobierno?

What the fark is with the spanish in every post? Does that make you feel special?


Are you discriminating against a someone for speaking Spanish. How shameful. I guess you haven't worshiped at the alter of "diversity" enough.
 
2014-03-25 01:48:57 PM  

what_now: I love that we're picking on Wal Mart and not that other huge employer who's employees are often on food stamps because the pay is so low: The US Armed Forces.


Personally, I want there to be Facebook posters about all the working people on food stamps. I often mention our troops rely on food stamps because people need to know that the bulk of people getting assistance are not at all like the one surfer dude Fox keeps dragging out.

But is the government making a huge profit on the armed services? No, they are not. The Walton family is. They get to lower their overhead by paying crap wages because you and I are forced to make up up the difference. And, because the amount of food stamps is so low, people go to Walmart thinking they will get good food deals (in my experience, it's not cheaper to shop for food there).

It does not grind any of my gears to help our troops and their families eat well (food stamps go a longer way at the BX). It grinds every gear I have that my tax dollars are enriching the already loaded Walton family.
 
2014-03-25 01:49:37 PM  

svanmeter: It is shameful how little my son in the Army is paid. It is even more shameful that the government just CUT the military's pay even further. ¡Que vergüenza señor Obama!


What rank is he?  When did he start?  Does he have dependants?  Nobody in the military is hurting for money.  I've been in for 14 years now and when I first started I complained about how much I made then I realized what the cost of all those other benefits were and then it was "Wow this is a sweet racket".   Fast forward 14 years and I'm still like "Wow this is a sweet racket".
 
2014-03-25 01:52:20 PM  

svanmeter: jst3p: svanmeter: Those people you claim have jobs are quiting in high numbers because it makes more financial sense for them to get obamacare and unemployment

You don't get unemployment when you quit you ignorant chud. When you have to lie to make your point it says a lot about your point.

Yeah, I don't know how unemployment works because I've never quit a job.


Really? You have had the same job your entire working life? Never quit because you had a better opportunity come along? That's kind of sad. Just curious, what do you do and how long have you been doing it?


 I guess you're the authority on that.

I work in IT, I have been laid off. You seem ignorant about this subject so I will clue you in. Unemployment is insurance that your employer pays for incase they decide to make you unemployed through no fault of your own. It isn't a handout.

 Our local welfare office had to set up an additional desk for all the people who quit their jobs because they found it easier to get Obama care and other handouts.

Citation needed, because I think you are lying again.
 
2014-03-25 01:55:39 PM  

svanmeter: jst3p: svanmeter: Those people you claim have jobs are quiting in high numbers because it makes more financial sense for them to get obamacare and unemployment

You don't get unemployment when you quit you ignorant chud. When you have to lie to make your point it says a lot about your point.

Yeah, I don't know how unemployment works because I've never quit a job. I guess you're the authority on that. Our local welfare office had to set up an additional desk for all the people who quit their jobs because they found it easier to get Obama care and other handouts. Keep that head in the sand there amigo. Algún día dirás...¿Qué pasó? ¿Porqué se calló el gobierno?


Just what this thread needs, more made up hyperbole.
 
2014-03-25 01:59:01 PM  

Mrs.Sharpier: Wal-Mart CEOs, Presidents and Board of Directors should have to undergo drug tests every month. Also, they shouldn't spend their billions on lobster, cigarettes or soda.

Rep Paul Ryan is going to have a field day going after Wal-Mart! Right?


99.99% of Walmart executives own a REFRIGERATOR!
 
2014-03-25 02:00:21 PM  

jst3p: svanmeter: jst3p: svanmeter: Those people you claim have jobs are quiting in high numbers because it makes more financial sense for them to get obamacare and unemployment

You don't get unemployment when you quit you ignorant chud. When you have to lie to make your point it says a lot about your point.

Yeah, I don't know how unemployment works because I've never quit a job.

Really? You have had the same job your entire working life? Never quit because you had a better opportunity come along? That's kind of sad. Just curious, what do you do and how long have you been doing it?


 I guess you're the authority on that.

I work in IT, I have been laid off. You seem ignorant about this subject so I will clue you in. Unemployment is insurance that your employer pays for incase they decide to make you unemployed through no fault of your own. It isn't a handout.

 Our local welfare office had to set up an additional desk for all the people who quit their jobs because they found it easier to get Obama care and other handouts.

Citation needed, because I think you are lying again.


All I can provide you with is the name of my friend who provides security at the welfare palace who set the desk up. But that I'm sure would not be sufficient proof for you. I've had many jobs but I always left one job for another, so no need (I'm proud to say) for public assistance in any form. I see you are very pro Welfare. Even the Nazis had a form of welfare. A ver que estupidezes va a decir ahora.
 
2014-03-25 02:01:02 PM  

svanmeter: Those people you claim have jobs are quiting in high numbers because it makes more financial sense for them to get obamacare and unemployment. As the song goes, "it's free. Swipe your EBT".


You cannot get unemployment if you quit your job. You cannot get unemployment if you turn down paying offers.

The most people on food stamps are working. Many of our on-shore troops and their families are on food stamps.  Shame on you.
 
2014-03-25 02:01:25 PM  

Born_Again_Bavarian: The U.S. military is an extremely stable and financially sound career choice. You might get shot, but you will be taken care of financially.

I tell people that if they want the stability of being in the military but don't want to get shot at, pick a service and job that accomidates that.  Coast Guard?  Yep.  The USCG has some dangerous jobs but those are all voluntary positions.  I have a friend in the USCG who spend a portion of his career patroling a lake in Vermont that sits on the border.  I'm sure they run into some unsavory characters on occasion but its nothing like walking a beat in Afghanistan.  You can also pick a clerical job in any of the services.  It might not be right but E-4 pay is the same everywhere............doesn't matter if you are making copies in a air conditioned office at a AF base in Oklahoma or clearing a house of suspected terrorists in Afghanistan.


The problem with choosing the military if you want to avoid combat comes when you're a dumb person. There are two kinds of combat infantrymen -- guys who chose it for the adventure, and guys who were too stupid to avoid being put in it. If you flunk out of any technical school in the Army, you become a grunt. If you don't get your recruiter to put your technical school in your enlistment contract, you may become a grunt. The Coast Guard is a fine option, but my thought if you want to serve in a paramilitary organization is just to join the Air Force. :^P
 
2014-03-25 02:03:03 PM  

DeaH: svanmeter: Those people you claim have jobs are quiting in high numbers because it makes more financial sense for them to get obamacare and unemployment. As the song goes, "it's free. Swipe your EBT".

You cannot get unemployment if you quit your job. You cannot get unemployment if you turn down paying offers.

The most people on food stamps are working. Many of our on-shore troops and their families are on food stamps.  Shame on you.


No, shame on a liberal government who pays soldiers so little that they have to rely on food stamps.
 
2014-03-25 02:03:09 PM  
Wow a company that places stores in economically depressed areas and offers cheap food sees a lot of people using food stamps as a proportion of their sales.  What next Whole Foods sees an unusually low percentage of sales from food stamps?
 
2014-03-25 02:03:17 PM  

jst3p: dascott: Dwindle: LazyMedia: Fortunately, the vast majority of able-bodied people who get welfare or food stamps wind up eventually getting a job and moving off benefits. The "perpetual welfare" myth today applies only to old and disabled people.

You're hilarious. Most of the people I know on welfare have been on welfare for over 20 years, most their entire lives. I know people in their 50's who have never had a job.

The two year rule only applies to Federal welfare, the state has to pick it up after that.

The whole point of welfare is to keep people out of the workforce and dependent on government. The Democrats flood every city nationwide with poor people who will vote for them to keep the benefits flowing. That is why they control almost every city in the nation.

More than 45% of people on welfare have been for over 2 years.
http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/
That's not even including those on food stamps, disability, and unemployment.

Just when you thought you have found the most ignorant thing said on the internet, someone comes along and sets the bar even higher.

It isn't a unique thought. I listen to right wing radio (Sun Tzu, know your enemy) and that is one of their main thrusts against Democrats.

Social Safety nets aren't pushed but the left because the left wants to help people, it is because the left wants as much of the population dependent on government as possible. Once you are completely dependent on government then the left can control you.

Seriously, they say this regularly and they say it as if it as logical as 2+2=potato


But that low-pay, part time job with the "flexible" (read: ever changing) schedule doesn't control or enslave the worker, no, sir.
 
2014-03-25 02:03:24 PM  

svanmeter: jst3p: svanmeter: Those people you claim have jobs are quiting in high numbers because it makes more financial sense for them to get obamacare and unemployment

You don't get unemployment when you quit you ignorant chud. When you have to lie to make your point it says a lot about your point.

Yeah, I don't know how unemployment works because I've never quit a job. I guess you're the authority on that. Our local welfare office had to set up an additional desk for all the people who quit their jobs because they found it easier to get Obama care and other handouts. Keep that head in the sand there amigo. Algún día dirás...¿Qué pasó? ¿Porqué se calló el gobierno?


He's just a troll, ignore him. He knows as well as anybody else that quitting a job makes you ineligible for unemployment.
 
2014-03-25 02:04:33 PM  

svanmeter: jst3p: svanmeter: jst3p: svanmeter: Those people you claim have jobs are quiting in high numbers because it makes more financial sense for them to get obamacare and unemployment

You don't get unemployment when you quit you ignorant chud. When you have to lie to make your point it says a lot about your point.

Yeah, I don't know how unemployment works because I've never quit a job.

Really? You have had the same job your entire working life? Never quit because you had a better opportunity come along? That's kind of sad. Just curious, what do you do and how long have you been doing it?


 I guess you're the authority on that.

I work in IT, I have been laid off. You seem ignorant about this subject so I will clue you in. Unemployment is insurance that your employer pays for incase they decide to make you unemployed through no fault of your own. It isn't a handout.

 Our local welfare office had to set up an additional desk for all the people who quit their jobs because they found it easier to get Obama care and other handouts.

Citation needed, because I think you are lying again.

All I can provide you with is the name of my friend who provides security at the welfare palace who set the desk up. But that I'm sure would not be sufficient proof for you. I've had many jobs but I always left one job for another, so no need (I'm proud to say) for public assistance in any form. I see you are very pro Welfare. Even the Nazis had a form of welfare. A ver que estupidezes va a decir ahora.


jst3p - You just got trolled!
 
2014-03-25 02:05:57 PM  

LazyMedia: svanmeter: jst3p: svanmeter: Those people you claim have jobs are quiting in high numbers because it makes more financial sense for them to get obamacare and unemployment

You don't get unemployment when you quit you ignorant chud. When you have to lie to make your point it says a lot about your point.

Yeah, I don't know how unemployment works because I've never quit a job. I guess you're the authority on that. Our local welfare office had to set up an additional desk for all the people who quit their jobs because they found it easier to get Obama care and other handouts. Keep that head in the sand there amigo. Algún día dirás...¿Qué pasó? ¿Porqué se calló el gobierno?

He's just a troll, ignore him. He knows as well as anybody else that quitting a job makes you ineligible for unemployment.


I like how when people start losing an argument they start branding people a troll. Not very original. I could call you a mental midget, but I won't stoop to your level. Ay, pero me dan un dolor de cabeza estos brutos aquí.
 
2014-03-25 02:07:11 PM  

The Southern Dandy: Mrs.Sharpier: Wal-Mart CEOs, Presidents and Board of Directors should have to undergo drug tests every month. Also, they shouldn't spend their billions on lobster, cigarettes or soda.

Rep Paul Ryan is going to have a field day going after Wal-Mart! Right?

99.99% of Walmart executives own a REFRIGERATOR!


One of the signs of the March of Progress is how the outraged chain letters about poor people have evolved from "They have teevees!" to "They have color teevees!" to "They have flatscreen teevees!"
 
2014-03-25 02:08:13 PM  

svanmeter: LazyMedia: svanmeter: jst3p: svanmeter: Those people you claim have jobs are quiting in high numbers because it makes more financial sense for them to get obamacare and unemployment

You don't get unemployment when you quit you ignorant chud. When you have to lie to make your point it says a lot about your point.

Yeah, I don't know how unemployment works because I've never quit a job. I guess you're the authority on that. Our local welfare office had to set up an additional desk for all the people who quit their jobs because they found it easier to get Obama care and other handouts. Keep that head in the sand there amigo. Algún día dirás...¿Qué pasó? ¿Porqué se calló el gobierno?

He's just a troll, ignore him. He knows as well as anybody else that quitting a job makes you ineligible for unemployment.

I like how when people start losing an argument they start branding people a troll. Not very original. I could call you a mental midget, but I won't stoop to your level. Ay, pero me dan un dolor de cabeza estos brutos aquí.


Coming from the guy who just Godwin'd the thread.  Yeah, high road.
 
2014-03-25 02:09:24 PM  

svanmeter: jst3p: svanmeter: jst3p: svanmeter: Those people you claim have jobs are quiting in high numbers because it makes more financial sense for them to get obamacare and unemployment

You don't get unemployment when you quit you ignorant chud. When you have to lie to make your point it says a lot about your point.

Yeah, I don't know how unemployment works because I've never quit a job.

Really? You have had the same job your entire working life? Never quit because you had a better opportunity come along? That's kind of sad. Just curious, what do you do and how long have you been doing it?


 I guess you're the authority on that.

I work in IT, I have been laid off. You seem ignorant about this subject so I will clue you in. Unemployment is insurance that your employer pays for incase they decide to make you unemployed through no fault of your own. It isn't a handout.

 Our local welfare office had to set up an additional desk for all the people who quit their jobs because they found it easier to get Obama care and other handouts.

Citation needed, because I think you are lying again.

All I can provide you with is the name of my friend who provides security at the welfare palace who set the desk up.
But that I'm sure would not be sufficient proof for you.


You are correct. That would not demonstrate that people are quitting their jobs because they found it easier to get Obamacare and other handouts.

 I've had many jobs but I always left one job for another, so no need (I'm proud to say) for public assistance in any form.

So you lied when you said this:

svanmeter: I've never quit a job.


OK, liar is trolling or troll is lying.
 
2014-03-25 02:10:09 PM  

Carn: jst3p - You just got trolled!


yeah, should have caught on sooner. My bad.
 
2014-03-25 02:10:23 PM  

svanmeter: LazyMedia: svanmeter: jst3p: svanmeter: Those people you claim have jobs are quiting in high numbers because it makes more financial sense for them to get obamacare and unemployment

You don't get unemployment when you quit you ignorant chud. When you have to lie to make your point it says a lot about your point.

Yeah, I don't know how unemployment works because I've never quit a job. I guess you're the authority on that. Our local welfare office had to set up an additional desk for all the people who quit their jobs because they found it easier to get Obama care and other handouts. Keep that head in the sand there amigo. Algún día dirás...¿Qué pasó? ¿Porqué se calló el gobierno?

He's just a troll, ignore him. He knows as well as anybody else that quitting a job makes you ineligible for unemployment.

I like how when people start losing an argument they start branding people a troll. Not very original. I could call you a mental midget, but I won't stoop to your level. Ay, pero me dan un dolor de cabeza estos brutos aquí.


See? He throws out a load of easily disprovable lies, changes the subject when people call him on them, and then claims to be winning the argument when they stop responding to his bullshiat. Classic trolling.
 
2014-03-25 02:10:55 PM  
I buy my socks at Wal-Mart.  Also, I buy cat food there as well... sometimes.
 
2014-03-25 02:11:24 PM  

what_now: I love that we're picking on Wal Mart and not that other huge employer who's employees are often on food stamps because the pay is so low: The US Armed Forces.


Not that these corporations don't deserve our ire, but you're right about the armed forces. Being former military myself back in the 80's, the enlisted pay rates are still at a level where it would be unfeasable to even think about getting married or having children until you're at least an E-6 or above, which usually takes 10 years or more. If you're rank is lower than that, you're expected to be single, living and eating on base/ship, and wearing the same clothing you brought with you to boot camp when not in uniform.

Considering that at least for the Navy you're working 12 hour (or more) shifts 7 days a week when out at sea for 6 or 7 months at a time, an E-4 with 4 year's $27,936 salary comes out to less than $6.50 an hour while at sea (180 days, 2160 hours, half year @$13,968). Living in a Navy town I see this all the time, and there isn't a single military family in my apartment complex that I know who doesn't have an EBT card or other assistance. That they should need this is a crime.
 
2014-03-25 02:12:35 PM  

jst3p: OK, liar is trolling or troll is lying.


I think it's safe to say svanmeter is either;
1. bored at work and entertaining itself with a little internet fishing
2. the perfect example of a Conservative's view on welfare and the working poor that is a byproduct of Capitalism.
 
2014-03-25 02:14:20 PM  
Svanmeter's work in this thread is commendable. His derp is pitch-perfectly off-point and the Spanish seasoning at the end really drives it home. We can actually learn alot from him.
 
2014-03-25 02:19:39 PM  

LazyMedia: svanmeter: LazyMedia: svanmeter: jst3p: svanmeter: Those people you claim have jobs are quiting in high numbers because it makes more financial sense for them to get obamacare and unemployment

You don't get unemployment when you quit you ignorant chud. When you have to lie to make your point it says a lot about your point.

Yeah, I don't know how unemployment works because I've never quit a job. I guess you're the authority on that. Our local welfare office had to set up an additional desk for all the people who quit their jobs because they found it easier to get Obama care and other handouts. Keep that head in the sand there amigo. Algún día dirás...¿Qué pasó? ¿Porqué se calló el gobierno?

He's just a troll, ignore him. He knows as well as anybody else that quitting a job makes you ineligible for unemployment.

I like how when people start losing an argument they start branding people a troll. Not very original. I could call you a mental midget, but I won't stoop to your level. Ay, pero me dan un dolor de cabeza estos brutos aquí.

See? He throws out a load of easily disprovable lies, changes the subject when people call him on them, and then claims to be winning the argument when they stop responding to his bullshiat. Classic trolling.


The next step when labeling a troll doesn't work is to start throwing the "liar" bomb. Stick to the facts and stop demeaning yourself by hurtling false labels and "liar" bombs. Ya basta. Ya no voy a perder más tiempo con ignorantes como vds.
 
2014-03-25 02:19:45 PM  
Ima just leave this here, it's one of my favorites...    http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Leo13/l13rerum.htm

"The following duties bind the wealthy owner and the employer: not to look upon their work people as their bondsmen, but to respect in every man his dignity as a person ennobled by Christian character." Paragraph 20

...

"Let the working man and the employer make free agreements, and in particular let them agree freely as to the wages; nevertheless, there underlies a dictate of natural justice more imperious and ancient than any bargain between man and man, namely, that wages ought not to be insufficient to support a frugal and well-behaved wage-earner. If through necessity or fear of a worse evil the workman accept harder conditions because an employer or contractor will afford him no better, he is made the victim of force and injustice. " Paragraph 45
 
2014-03-25 02:19:53 PM  

rewind2846: what_now: I love that we're picking on Wal Mart and not that other huge employer who's employees are often on food stamps because the pay is so low: The US Armed Forces.

Not that these corporations don't deserve our ire, but you're right about the armed forces. Being former military myself back in the 80's, the enlisted pay rates are still at a level where it would be unfeasable to even think about getting married or having children until you're at least an E-6 or above, which usually takes 10 years or more. If you're rank is lower than that, you're expected to be single, living and eating on base/ship, and wearing the same clothing you brought with you to boot camp when not in uniform.

Considering that at least for the Navy you're working 12 hour (or more) shifts 7 days a week when out at sea for 6 or 7 months at a time, an E-4 with 4 year's $27,936 salary comes out to less than $6.50 an hour while at sea (180 days, 2160 hours, half year @$13,968). Living in a Navy town I see this all the time, and there isn't a single military family in my apartment complex that I know who doesn't have an EBT card or other assistance. That they should need this is a crime.


Yup.  Armies in other countries mutiny of shiat like this.  Here we just keep taking up the poop chute.
 
2014-03-25 02:20:30 PM  

SevenizGud: Eliminate food stamps.

Problem solved.


Yup.  Walmart will no longer have either customers or employees.
 
2014-03-25 02:21:27 PM  

svanmeter: jst3p: svanmeter: jst3p: svanmeter: Those people you claim have jobs are quiting in high numbers because it makes more financial sense for them to get obamacare and unemployment

You don't get unemployment when you quit you ignorant chud. When you have to lie to make your point it says a lot about your point.

Yeah, I don't know how unemployment works because I've never quit a job.

Really? You have had the same job your entire working life? Never quit because you had a better opportunity come along? That's kind of sad. Just curious, what do you do and how long have you been doing it?


 I guess you're the authority on that.

I work in IT, I have been laid off. You seem ignorant about this subject so I will clue you in. Unemployment is insurance that your employer pays for incase they decide to make you unemployed through no fault of your own. It isn't a handout.

 Our local welfare office had to set up an additional desk for all the people who quit their jobs because they found it easier to get Obama care and other handouts.

Citation needed, because I think you are lying again.

All I can provide you with is the name of my friend who provides security at the welfare palace who set the desk up. But that I'm sure would not be sufficient proof for you. I've had many jobs but I always left one job for another, so no need (I'm proud to say) for public assistance in any form. I see you are very pro Welfare. Even the Nazis had a form of welfare. A ver que estupidezes va a decir ahora.


It's not like something else happened recently that could contribute to this, such as a major recession kicked off by some sort of housing crisis.  Nah, it's Obummercare!
 
2014-03-25 02:25:02 PM  

drew46n2: Svanmeter's work in this thread is commendable. His derp is pitch-perfectly off-point and the Spanish seasoning at the end really drives it home. We can actually learn alot from him.


We may not agree on issues, but I would be proud to buy you a beer.
Cheers!
 
2014-03-25 02:25:22 PM  

svanmeter: The next step when labeling a troll doesn't work


lol, it's too late bud. I will give you credit, it was a very good run but you went too far and made it too obvious.

Well done though.
 
2014-03-25 02:30:48 PM  

LazyMedia: IRQ12: I loathe walmart and what they represent but that shiathole is not a good example.  The prices are probably +50-100% of walmart and the employees are stereotypical union.  There's a reason they only survive in places where a walmart wont fit.

I used to shop at Safeway in DC all the time. Prices are almost exactly comparable to Wal-Mart. Grocery stores operate on only about a 1 percent margin; they CAN'T mark up prices for the same thing and stay in business. Where I live, I can get groceries at Kroger, Publix or Wal-Mart. The prices are the same, but Kroger and Publix pay better (I assume; Wal-Mart may be forced to pay more because this is an urban area where employees can go elsewhere).

Unionized grocery workers don't get paid that much more than non-union, they're just protected from the sort of worker abuse that Wal-Mart is so infamous for (forced, unpaid overtime, understaffing, trimming hours to keep people part time).


There is a grocery chain in the New York/New Jersey area called Shoprite.   Shoprite was established as a buying co-op after WWII.  The stores are all individually owned and the store owners all hold shares in the co-op which is called Wakfern Food Corp. Shoprite sucessfully competes with Walmart in this area.  The prices are as good or better than Walmart.  While most of the Shoprite workers are part time, every store has its compliment of full time workers, many who have been with Shoprite for years.  So you see, it is possible to compete with Walmart.  Unfortunately, in places where Walmart is established, it becomes impossible for others to enter the market.
 
2014-03-25 02:31:35 PM  

Fissile: rewind2846: what_now: I love that we're picking on Wal Mart and not that other huge employer who's employees are often on food stamps because the pay is so low: The US Armed Forces.

Not that these corporations don't deserve our ire, but you're right about the armed forces. Being former military myself back in the 80's, the enlisted pay rates are still at a level where it would be unfeasable to even think about getting married or having children until you're at least an E-6 or above, which usually takes 10 years or more. If you're rank is lower than that, you're expected to be single, living and eating on base/ship, and wearing the same clothing you brought with you to boot camp when not in uniform.

Considering that at least for the Navy you're working 12 hour (or more) shifts 7 days a week when out at sea for 6 or 7 months at a time, an E-4 with 4 year's $27,936 salary comes out to less than $6.50 an hour while at sea (180 days, 2160 hours, half year @$13,968). Living in a Navy town I see this all the time, and there isn't a single military family in my apartment complex that I know who doesn't have an EBT card or other assistance. That they should need this is a crime.

Yup.  Armies in other countries mutiny of shiat like this.  Here we just keep taking up the poop chute.


Armies in other countries are paid a fraction of what ours are. When I work with NATO folks, it always freaks them out how much I get paid. I always wind up picking up restaurant checks because my travel per diem is so much higher than theirs.

It's not fair to just divide up the base pay by hours worked, and leave out the value of free food, lodging, health care, education savings, etc. The reason those families get EBT cards is because none of those non-pay benefits like the housing allowance are calculated into their income eligibility. They're getting food stamps based on the basic pay rate, and they make a LOT more money than a similarly eligible civilian. If you added in all the non-taxed benefits (including the cash housing allowance of $1,000 to $2,000 per month), they wouldn't be eligible for food stamps.
 
2014-03-25 02:33:09 PM  

Carn: Nutsac_Jim: Carn: If you're in favor of large corporations paying sub-standard wages


Let us know what a standard wage is.  Thx.

Living Wage Calculator.

I live in Fairfax County VA, and according to this site, the minimum living wage is $13.22 an hour, which even though I know you probably know this, I'll explain anyway, is the minimum wage that a person in my county (on average) needs to earn in order to be able to afford food, shelter (heat) and transportation.

Your counter to this will be "well people aren't supposed to live off of minimum wage jobs".  And that's fine as long as you accept that the price for this is your tax dollars making up the $6 shortfall in wages.


Thanks for posting that - I'm going to get a LOT of mileage out of it.
 
2014-03-25 02:34:13 PM  

archichris: Perhaps some of those people could find jobs if we didnt have 38 Trillion dollars per year in Economic activity being prevented by regulation


Okay... so what regulations would you eliminate? Difficulty: no regulations which have impact on the environment, workplace safety, child labor, consumer protections, corporate taxation, parental leave or equal pay for equal work.

Also, list what economic activity is being prevented and by which regulation, as well as your sources. No FoxNews, Breitbart or similar  allowed unless they link to an official govt, nonprofit or nonpartisan source.

Not expecting an answer, but watching the thread anyway.
 
2014-03-25 02:35:13 PM  

Fissile: LazyMedia: IRQ12: I loathe walmart and what they represent but that shiathole is not a good example.  The prices are probably +50-100% of walmart and the employees are stereotypical union.  There's a reason they only survive in places where a walmart wont fit.

I used to shop at Safeway in DC all the time. Prices are almost exactly comparable to Wal-Mart. Grocery stores operate on only about a 1 percent margin; they CAN'T mark up prices for the same thing and stay in business. Where I live, I can get groceries at Kroger, Publix or Wal-Mart. The prices are the same, but Kroger and Publix pay better (I assume; Wal-Mart may be forced to pay more because this is an urban area where employees can go elsewhere).

Unionized grocery workers don't get paid that much more than non-union, they're just protected from the sort of worker abuse that Wal-Mart is so infamous for (forced, unpaid overtime, understaffing, trimming hours to keep people part time).

There is a grocery chain in the New York/New Jersey area called Shoprite.   Shoprite was established as a buying co-op after WWII.  The stores are all individually owned and the store owners all hold shares in the co-op which is called Wakfern Food Corp. Shoprite sucessfully competes with Walmart in this area.  The prices are as good or better than Walmart.  While most of the Shoprite workers are part time, every store has its compliment of full time workers, many who have been with Shoprite for years.  So you see, it is possible to compete with Walmart.  Unfortunately, in places where Walmart is established, it becomes impossible for others to enter the market.


In the Twin Cities market, SuperTarget and the local grocery chains outperform Walmart by what appears to be miles. I've been in SuperWalmarts (or whatever they're called) and man alive, it's so depressing that you want to shoot yourself in the head. I don't know why anybody would go in one of those. Plus, they usually smell like pee somehow.
 
2014-03-25 02:36:23 PM  

jst3p: svanmeter: The next step when labeling a troll doesn't work

lol, it's too late bud. I will give you credit, it was a very good run but you went too far and made it too obvious.

Well done though.


Yeah, the "living on Obamacare" was a bit of a tell. I have low-cost or no-cost health insurance, that will pay for my rent and groceries!
 
2014-03-25 02:36:34 PM  
Wal-Mart has a nice selection and variety of lightbulbs.  I needed one for the hallway light the other day.
 
2014-03-25 02:37:51 PM  

LazyMedia: jst3p: svanmeter: The next step when labeling a troll doesn't work

lol, it's too late bud. I will give you credit, it was a very good run but you went too far and made it too obvious.

Well done though.

Yeah, the "living on Obamacare" was a bit of a tell. I have low-cost or no-cost health insurance, that will pay for my rent and groceries!


You probably pretend to be sick so they put you the hospital where you get free room and board.
 
2014-03-25 02:39:28 PM  

jst3p: svanmeter: The next step when labeling a troll doesn't work

lol, it's too late bud. I will give you credit, it was a very good run but you went too far and made it too obvious.

Well done though.


Thanks and we part friends I hope. I believe in my position as well as others here believe equally in theirs. Cheers and beers to worthy opponents!
 
2014-03-25 02:40:40 PM  

Fissile: So you see, it is possible to compete with Walmart. Unfortunately, in places where Walmart is established, it becomes impossible for others to enter the market.


in my area, the Mart has decided to take their business to a lower neighborhood level.

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/Jul/11/walmart-neighborhood-mark et -opens-san-diego/

basically, they will be the big box store that erases the local markets AND the local market that erases the original local market.

great for profit, bad for society.
 
2014-03-25 02:41:13 PM  

Fissile: LazyMedia: jst3p: svanmeter: The next step when labeling a troll doesn't work

lol, it's too late bud. I will give you credit, it was a very good run but you went too far and made it too obvious.

Well done though.

Yeah, the "living on Obamacare" was a bit of a tell. I have low-cost or no-cost health insurance, that will pay for my rent and groceries!

You probably pretend to be sick so they put you the hospital where you get free room and board.


Can you do that? How sick do I need to pretend to be? That sounds like a pretty sweet deal that I'm sure our for-profit hospital chains are glad to provide.
 
2014-03-25 02:42:28 PM  

LazyMedia: jst3p: svanmeter: The next step when labeling a troll doesn't work

lol, it's too late bud. I will give you credit, it was a very good run but you went too far and made it too obvious.

Well done though.

Yeah, the "living on Obamacare" was a bit of a tell. I have low-cost or no-cost health insurance, that will pay for my rent and groceries!


The whole quote was " living on obamacare and other handouts"
 
2014-03-25 02:43:03 PM  

LazyMedia: It's not fair to just divide up the base pay by hours worked, and leave out the value of free food, lodging, health care, education savings, etc.


The family doesn't get "free food", nor are there EVER enough places to put them all, especially where I am, which means they will have to live on the local economy where cheap 2 bedroom apartments will run $1200.00 a month. If you want to live nearer the base or somewhere there aren't gunshots every week, it will cost substantially more.

Plus there's something to be said for "eating what you want" versus "eating what they give you", which is what happens when you eat at the mess hall.

I've been there. It's more than fair.
 
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