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2014-03-24 09:51:16 PM
4 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: Why would an apartment complex have a rule that you have to park 'head first'?  If I can I always prefer to back in to parking spaces, it makes it much safer when pulling out.


And this is a load of crap. Unless you don't know how to turn your head and back out slowly, there is little to no difference when it comes to pulling out. Plus, everyone has to wait around on the asshole backing in to get out of the damn way when they're pulling in.
2014-03-24 11:31:46 PM
3 votes:

brandent: debug: Pokey.Clyde: TuteTibiImperes: Why would an apartment complex have a rule that you have to park 'head first'?  If I can I always prefer to back in to parking spaces, it makes it much safer when pulling out.

And this is a load of crap. Unless you don't know how to turn your head and back out slowly, there is little to no difference when it comes to pulling out. Plus, everyone has to wait around on the asshole backing in to get out of the damn way when they're pulling in.

Exactly.  It's always faster to pull in and back out.  If you can't look around to see if anything's coming, you shouldn't be driving to begin with.  If your view is blocked while backing out, it's going to be blocked while pulling out as well.

So we managed to start the whole 'back in or not' controversy tonight.  Count me in with the 'do not back in' crowd with you. People who say it is easier/safer to back in are just plain morons and should be banned from owning/driving vehicles.  For those who think this do me a favor.  Next time you park this way count how many times you have to look in a mirror both in and out and how many times you have to adjust your steering.  Now do it again only parking normally (head first).  There is no comparison.  Period.  It's right up there with driving with both feet left foot for brake and right foot for gas.  I've known people who do it and it's just plain dumb and dangerous.For those who do it though there just is no amount of reason that will dissuade them.


Except that you can use your mirrors far more effectively when backing into a space than you can backing out. It's not that I can't look around, it's that the vast majority of vehicles are shorter from the front bumper to the driver's head than from the back bumper to the driver's head, doubly true for pickups/SUVs. When cars are parked to either side, it means that you get a clear line of sight with less of your vehicle is in the travel lane. When backing in, you have complete vision of traffic around you. When backing out, you don't.

If you can't park your car in reverse with a minimum of steering adjustments you should be banned from driving. Backing your car into a space should be just as easy as pulling in; if not, you don't know how to drive or don't know your car well enough.
2014-03-24 11:15:04 PM
3 votes:

debug: Pokey.Clyde: TuteTibiImperes: Why would an apartment complex have a rule that you have to park 'head first'?  If I can I always prefer to back in to parking spaces, it makes it much safer when pulling out.

And this is a load of crap. Unless you don't know how to turn your head and back out slowly, there is little to no difference when it comes to pulling out. Plus, everyone has to wait around on the asshole backing in to get out of the damn way when they're pulling in.

Exactly.  It's always faster to pull in and back out.  If you can't look around to see if anything's coming, you shouldn't be driving to begin with.  If your view is blocked while backing out, it's going to be blocked while pulling out as well.


I'm gonna disagree with you both, and on all counts. First: either way, you're doing the same thing, just in reverse order. So no time savings. Also, you're as likely to mess up traffic backing out as reversing in, so forget that too. Finally- and the reason (all else being equal) backing in is better: you can see small kids and animals a lot more easily over your hood than over your rear deck lid, a problem that worsens with some car models and all trucks, vans, minivans, and SUVs without rear cameras or sensors. Additionally, you're less likely to overlook something in the 90° zone right in front of you than when craning your neck 120° to look over your shoulder one way and whipping your head 240° to look over the other shoulder.

And yeah, there are more likely to be small children and animals in the parking lot aisle that you two want to back into than the single parking space we want to back into.
2014-03-24 10:54:44 PM
3 votes:

Pokey.Clyde: And this is a load of crap. Unless you don't know how to turn your head and back out slowly, there is little to no difference when it comes to pulling out. Plus, everyone has to wait around on the asshole backing in to get out of the damn way when they're pulling in.


That's all well and good, until a pair of F-9750 grocery conquerors park to either side of you. Then if you pulled in forwards you can't see anything coming down the side lanes until your ass is out in traffic. If you backed in, you can see by poking your hood out and leaning forward.

When you are approaching a spot from the right-of-way, you can be aware of the entire area, when you are leaving the spot you are only aware of what you have LOS on; to me, it's worth the extra 10 seconds to back into the spot.
2014-03-24 07:50:38 PM
3 votes:
Great Toys-R-Us commercial.
2014-03-25 12:31:04 AM
2 votes:

Pokey.Clyde: Mikey1969: Except that with me, I have days where I can barely turn my head to watch in 42 directions at once, whereas if I back in, I've had the benefit of checking the area when I pulled up, and turned around.

If you aren't physically capable of turning your damn head to look for traffic/pedestrians, you shouldn't be driving.

lizyrd: If you can't park your car in reverse with a minimum of steering adjustments you should be banned from driving.

If you can't back out of a parking space, like a normal person, you should be banned from driving. This is doubly so when the parking spots are angled, rather than straight in. Because when they are angled, backing in/pulling out head first means you are driving the wrong damn way down a one way lane.


Who said anything about angled spots? And who said anything about "can't" back out of a spot? I pull in as often as I back in. All I'm saying is that backing in affords the opportunity to use your mirrors effectively, as they begin in parallel to moving traffic and sweep toward your target. Backing out starts your mirrors perpendicular to moving traffic, making them them almost useless. I prefer using my mirrors out of habit; I trailer fairly often for my side-business and I drive heavy trucks at my main job, both of which require lots of backing and mirror use.
2014-03-24 11:23:58 PM
2 votes:
Back in the 90s, when I worked in downtown Phoenix, the Meter Maids were getting tired of being trash talked by the cops for not being "real" cops. As a result, when they found cop cars parked in fire lanes or with expired parking meters, they'd ticket them. Apparently, police do NOT get some kind of special right, people just look the other way. If they get a ticket, they still get a ticket, and it has to be paid.

It's one thing if they are actually responding to an emergency, but if you have parked your car and gone inside, that's not an "emergency", you need to be running code, have the lights on, responding to an immediate issue. Patrolling an apartment complex isn't an emergency.

And I thought the lesson to be learned here is that even the cops need to follow the law, but apparently that's not what this cop learned from the whole thing. Maybe next time he parks in a fire lane, they'll have to forcibly remove his car to fight the fire.

Or this...

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2014-03-24 11:20:13 PM
2 votes:

brandent: debug: Pokey.Clyde: TuteTibiImperes: Why would an apartment complex have a rule that you have to park 'head first'?  If I can I always prefer to back in to parking spaces, it makes it much safer when pulling out.

And this is a load of crap. Unless you don't know how to turn your head and back out slowly, there is little to no difference when it comes to pulling out. Plus, everyone has to wait around on the asshole backing in to get out of the damn way when they're pulling in.

Exactly.  It's always faster to pull in and back out.  If you can't look around to see if anything's coming, you shouldn't be driving to begin with.  If your view is blocked while backing out, it's going to be blocked while pulling out as well.

So we managed to start the whole 'back in or not' controversy tonight.  Count me in with the 'do not back in' crowd with you. People who say it is easier/safer to back in are just plain morons and should be banned from owning/driving vehicles.  For those who think this do me a favor.  Next time you park this way count how many times you have to look in a mirror both in and out and how many times you have to adjust your steering.  Now do it again only parking normally (head first).  There is no comparison.  Period.  It's right up there with driving with both feet left foot for brake and right foot for gas.  I've known people who do it and it's just plain dumb and dangerous.For those who do it though there just is no amount of reason that will dissuade them.


You're kidding, right? You're not really so dumb as to not realize you have to do the exact same thing backing *out* of the space? Which, incidentally, you're doing into an active traffic lane. Backwards.

You need to think a little harder before you jump into these arguments.
2014-03-24 11:19:22 PM
2 votes:

brandent: debug: Pokey.Clyde: TuteTibiImperes: Why would an apartment complex have a rule that you have to park 'head first'?  If I can I always prefer to back in to parking spaces, it makes it much safer when pulling out.

And this is a load of crap. Unless you don't know how to turn your head and back out slowly, there is little to no difference when it comes to pulling out. Plus, everyone has to wait around on the asshole backing in to get out of the damn way when they're pulling in.

Exactly.  It's always faster to pull in and back out.  If you can't look around to see if anything's coming, you shouldn't be driving to begin with.  If your view is blocked while backing out, it's going to be blocked while pulling out as well.

So we managed to start the whole 'back in or not' controversy tonight.  Count me in with the 'do not back in' crowd with you. People who say it is easier/safer to back in are just plain morons and should be banned from owning/driving vehicles.  For those who think this do me a favor.  Next time you park this way count how many times you have to look in a mirror both in and out and how many times you have to adjust your steering.  Now do it again only parking normally (head first).  There is no comparison.  Period.  It's right up there with driving with both feet left foot for brake and right foot for gas.  I've known people who do it and it's just plain dumb and dangerous.For those who do it though there just is no amount of reason that will dissuade them.


You know who else always backs in?
/the cops
//so they can leave faster
///you also cannot baitch at them, so there.
2014-03-24 11:10:48 PM
2 votes:

brandent: debug: Pokey.Clyde: TuteTibiImperes: Why would an apartment complex have a rule that you have to park 'head first'?  If I can I always prefer to back in to parking spaces, it makes it much safer when pulling out.

And this is a load of crap. Unless you don't know how to turn your head and back out slowly, there is little to no difference when it comes to pulling out. Plus, everyone has to wait around on the asshole backing in to get out of the damn way when they're pulling in.

Exactly.  It's always faster to pull in and back out.  If you can't look around to see if anything's coming, you shouldn't be driving to begin with.  If your view is blocked while backing out, it's going to be blocked while pulling out as well.

So we managed to start the whole 'back in or not' controversy tonight.  Count me in with the 'do not back in' crowd with you. People who say it is easier/safer to back in are just plain morons and should be banned from owning/driving vehicles.  For those who think this do me a favor.  Next time you park this way count how many times you have to look in a mirror both in and out and how many times you have to adjust your steering.  Now do it again only parking normally (head first).  There is no comparison.  Period.  It's right up there with driving with both feet left foot for brake and right foot for gas.  I've known people who do it and it's just plain dumb and dangerous.For those who do it though there just is no amount of reason that will dissuade them.


You fail to see leaving parked between two fat ass suv's at a mall.
I fell for your troll didn't I?
2014-03-24 10:54:20 PM
2 votes:

Silicon Sam: Pokey.Clyde: TuteTibiImperes: Why would an apartment complex have a rule that you have to park 'head first'?  If I can I always prefer to back in to parking spaces, it makes it much safer when pulling out.

And this is a load of crap. Unless you don't know how to turn your head and back out slowly, there is little to no difference when it comes to pulling out. Plus, everyone has to wait around on the asshole backing in to get out of the damn way when they're pulling in.

  Nearly all, make that all of the energy companies, Halliburton, etc, make the employees back into their spaces.  If there is a fire or emergency at the plant, the parking lot will empty out 3-5 times faster if everyone has to just drive forward to leave.  Much more efficient for evacuation.


In my case, I drive a large truck with a long bed, so backing in is much easier in a tight space because of the ridiculously long wheel base.  Unless I have TONS of room in the aisleway, where I can make a wide sweep around, I always back in.
2014-03-24 10:42:14 PM
2 votes:

debug: Pokey.Clyde: TuteTibiImperes: Why would an apartment complex have a rule that you have to park 'head first'?  If I can I always prefer to back in to parking spaces, it makes it much safer when pulling out.

And this is a load of crap. Unless you don't know how to turn your head and back out slowly, there is little to no difference when it comes to pulling out. Plus, everyone has to wait around on the asshole backing in to get out of the damn way when they're pulling in.

Exactly.  It's always faster to pull in and back out.  If you can't look around to see if anything's coming, you shouldn't be driving to begin with.  If your view is blocked while backing out, it's going to be blocked while pulling out as well.


It's faster to pull in, sure, and if there's traffic, I'll pull in.  If there's none, taking the time to back in is worthwhile.

Forward visibility is always better than rearward visibility, and it's easier to see cross traffic pulling out forward than backing out.
2014-03-24 08:57:29 PM
2 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: Why would an apartment complex have a rule that you have to park 'head first'?  If I can I always prefer to back in to parking spaces, it makes it much safer when pulling out.


If it's against the building it's to keep exhaust pipes away from open windows.
2014-03-24 08:33:29 PM
2 votes:
Why would an apartment complex have a rule that you have to park 'head first'?  If I can I always prefer to back in to parking spaces, it makes it much safer when pulling out.
2014-03-24 08:32:03 PM
2 votes:
On the one hand, it's nice to see a cop get rung up. On the other hand, it's not good that society is growing another little nazi.
2014-03-25 10:34:39 PM
1 votes:

Frederick: mgshamster: I agree. Unfortunately, when you are constantly dealing with the worst of society, it can be easy to forget that.

Not a valid excuse.  And certainly not something that should be tolerated to be said aloud.  "Dealing with the worst of society" is an obvious part of the job.  If an officer cannot tolerate that aspect, cannot learn to adapt or find constructive ways to handle it, then they should not be cops.


I don't think anyone believes that it is a valid excuse. What it is is the reality of the situation.  That's why I think regular counseling and reminders need to be a part of a police department.

A jaded cop is a dangerous cop.

Agreed.
2014-03-25 04:13:48 PM
1 votes:

steve42: Wow... 4 hours before anyone made an unwarranted attack on Alabama.  I guess all the anti-backing-in wharrgarbl threw off the dynamic.


I hope you're not referring to my comment, which I was just kidding about and admitted it was mean in the same post.  I actually have nothing against Alabamans.  It was a bad joke.  

It's a cute little story, and it's nice to see the cop not only had a sense of humor about it, but he took the time to get to know a bit about the girl and her family.

It would be cute if I believed it.  I just don't.  I think I'm going to contact the reporter and ask who let them know about this story and ask if she didn't make it all up herself and arrange for a cop and his niece to play-act like it really happened.

For the record, police, fire and rescue personnel are trained very early in their careers to always back into perpendicular parking spaces.  It gives them the ability to completely evaluate the situation as they enter the area and then back in when safe.  It means they can pull directly out when there is an emergency call when seconds can actually matter.  It prevents them from getting into situations where they cannot see around taller vehicles as they leave the parking space.  They aren't the only ones.  If phone company trucks have to be parked in a perpendicular spot, they are typically instructed to back in as well.

That explains why Sheriff Joke drove head into a parking space at a grocery store a few years back in his cop car and jammed the accelerator instead of the brake and then refused sobriety tests and blamed the car.

Is it a crime for civilians to do it? Not usually. In the case of parking on a campus or in a complex where parking decals are required, I can see the reason for the "no backing in" rule, but I would imagine cop who live in those situations would still back in. As a former firelighter, I frequently still do it out of habit.

Of course it's not a farking crime unless there's a specific city ordinance against it.    Even if there were an ordinance against it, it would probably be a civil infraction, much like speeding or illegal parking.  Oh, wait.  It would be illegal parking.  You might get a ticket for that, but most cities don't even care.
2014-03-25 06:34:58 AM
1 votes:

debug: See, if you actually learn how to drive, you won't have to back in to parking spaces to be able to get out of them without causing an accident.


If you can back into a space, then you can back out of a space.  It's not people not knowing how to drive, especially since backing in is more likely more difficult (less maneuvering room).  The difference is, some of us prefer having the wider range of vision pulling out forwards.  When you pull out backwards, it doesn't matter how good of a driver you are, you aren't going to stop in time if some bicycle comes whizzing by extremely close... not that there is a real chance of that happening, and hopefully you'd be going slow enough backward to prevent injury anyway.
2014-03-25 02:16:08 AM
1 votes:

CruiserTwelve: "I would say the lesson is not to be afraid of law enforcement, we're here to help," he said. "From the officer's side of things, we learn not to take ourselves so seriously. There's a lot of responsibility and power that comes with a badge but every once in a while we can step back and say, 'You know what, a lot of these people we're protecting, not everyone is a bad guy.'"

Good attitude, but I'd change it to "Very few are bad guys."


One good apple doesn't save the whole bunch.
2014-03-25 01:10:22 AM
1 votes:

Pokey.Clyde: No, mikey said I had a "need to insist that anyone backing into a spot is just there to make your day that much worse". I never said that.


You did however, say this:

Plus, everyone has to wait around on the asshole backing in to get out of the damn way when they're pulling in.

That's admittedly not the same thing, but people who back in do seem to upset you quite a bit.
2014-03-25 01:05:17 AM
1 votes:

Pokey.Clyde: brimed03: Pokey.Clyde: Mikey1969: It's preferable to not have to back out of a parking space, but I understand your need to insist that anyone backing into a spot is just there to make your day that much worse. Everyone obviously needs to conform to your standards. We'll all mark it in our "Tasks".

Never said any such thing. But you keep feeling like I'm out to get you and the rest of the "backers", crippy boy.

Yeah, you did. Exactly that, in fact. Just seven comments up:

"If you can't back out of a parking space, like a normal person, you should be banned from driving."

Frankly, I'm more concerned about people driving who can't remember their own words from 20 minutes ago.

Also: "crippy boy?" What are you, a fat Southern man in a white suit from 1952? Or just a really untalented troll?

No, mikey said I had a "need to insist that anyone backing into a spot is just there to make your day that much worse". I never said that. And crippy boy was just a crack it him for saying that there were days where he couldn't physically turn his head to look while driving/parking. And what the hell does a white suit and 1952 have to do with that? You lost me there.


Ah. You see, what mikey did there was called *sarcasm.* It's a literary effect, often used not merely for mockery but also to point out the ridiculous, often unstated implication of someone else's illogical argument.

Now that you know what to look for, you'll sometimes see *sarcasm* used right here in the comment sections of Fark. Yes, here!

"Crippy boy" is the sort of old-fashioned phrase a stereotypical bigot would use, hence my caricature of an old bigot paired with the hope that you were actually just trolling. But since you seem pretty ignorant of the fact that terms like "crippy" and "boy" (as a derogative) went out of use somewhere around 1969, I'll have to resign myself to the fact that ignorant slobs, too, can sometimes be found right here in the comment sections of Fark.
2014-03-25 01:00:32 AM
1 votes:

Pokey.Clyde: Mikey1969: It's preferable to not have to back out of a parking space, but I understand your need to insist that anyone backing into a spot is just there to make your day that much worse. Everyone obviously needs to conform to your standards. We'll all mark it in our "Tasks".

Never said any such thing. But you keep feeling like I'm out to get you and the rest of the "backers", crippy boy.


Wailing on about how people backing in sure makes it sound like you just wish everybody could do things JUST like you,,,

Actually apartment complexes have a few reasons for not backing in, and none of them are 'You will interfere with the Great Pokey Clyde'.

They're more like this:

1. Parking lots are tight, kids, wagons dogs and strollers,as adult pedestrians, as well as the roof pillar .
Pulling in and backing around is safer. You get a grand view of the area, you can spot what is going on in .You climb in the car and and can slowly back in.

2. You can create traffic jams, Mostly by people who just have to insert themselves into, always wanna tell everybody that you are there and have poked the wrong lion with a stick. The atmosphere in the are a gets almost electric, and you're ready to get in this guy's face, I know how it goes, you strut around the car in question. Your shirt probably came straight off so that you can preen more. You storm around, slapping the hood, maybe you get a bat, break a fe windows, that's the way to stick it to them.

3. when cars are pointed nose out, and the parking places are door-side(of the motel or apartment buildings), any car parked has its tailpipe MAYBE 5ft from the door. Even worse when someone rolls right up as close as they can, so two people can't walk two abreast behind the car. Now Goofus will probably leave the car running, so all of that nasty shiat is pumped directly into the room for the next lucky souls.

Now see THOSE are reason, yours is just whining because someone dared to not agree with your assessment.
2014-03-25 12:59:14 AM
1 votes:
Seriously, I would be more concerned at the quality of her hand writing than anything else. For somebody that is supposedly 14, that is appalling. A 5 year old with a pencil clenched between the butt-cheeks could produce a more legible effort.

/end of rant
2014-03-25 12:59:03 AM
1 votes:

Pokey.Clyde: TuteTibiImperes: Why would an apartment complex have a rule that you have to park 'head first'?  If I can I always prefer to back in to parking spaces, it makes it much safer when pulling out.

And this is a load of crap. Unless you don't know how to turn your head and back out slowly, there is little to no difference when it comes to pulling out. Plus, everyone has to wait around on the asshole backing in to get out of the damn way when they're pulling in.


I used to be a breaking news reporter before my kids were born. I probably covered 3-4 stories every year involving someone backing out over a kid. Never happened when they were pulling in. Now that I have four kids and live on a street with neighbors who have kids, I always back in to park so that I have full visibility pulling out.

/ to be fair, this anecdote may not apply in an apartment setting
2014-03-25 12:48:29 AM
1 votes:

debug: brimed03: brandent: debug: Pokey.Clyde: TuteTibiImperes: Why would an apartment complex have a rule that you have to park 'head first'?  If I can I always prefer to back in to parking spaces, it makes it much safer when pulling out.

And this is a load of crap. Unless you don't know how to turn your head and back out slowly, there is little to no difference when it comes to pulling out. Plus, everyone has to wait around on the asshole backing in to get out of the damn way when they're pulling in.

Exactly.  It's always faster to pull in and back out.  If you can't look around to see if anything's coming, you shouldn't be driving to begin with.  If your view is blocked while backing out, it's going to be blocked while pulling out as well.

So we managed to start the whole 'back in or not' controversy tonight.  Count me in with the 'do not back in' crowd with you. People who say it is easier/safer to back in are just plain morons and should be banned from owning/driving vehicles.  For those who think this do me a favor.  Next time you park this way count how many times you have to look in a mirror both in and out and how many times you have to adjust your steering.  Now do it again only parking normally (head first).  There is no comparison.  Period.  It's right up there with driving with both feet left foot for brake and right foot for gas.  I've known people who do it and it's just plain dumb and dangerous.For those who do it though there just is no amount of reason that will dissuade them.

You're kidding, right? You're not really so dumb as to not realize you have to do the exact same thing backing *out* of the space? Which, incidentally, you're doing into an active traffic lane. Backwards.

You need to think a little harder before you jump into these arguments.

I have a much wider area to back into than you do, thus it is faster and easier.  I have yet to ever cause or be involved in an accident while backing out of a space.  Trust me, it's faster pulling in and backing out.  I realize this isn't going to change they way anyone decides to park, so continue to park however you want.


Perhaps it is you who needs to think  a little harder before jumping into arguments.


Let me get this straight. You jump into the "not this argument again" by telling everyone else who backs in that they "should count" and realize they "are morons." And when I point out that it's the same number of steps to back out as to back in, your argument suddenly becomes about your personal challenges and comforts with backing in or out, and people can "continue to park however you want."

Nope. Pretty sure I'm not the one having trouble with the thinking and the arguing.
2014-03-25 12:28:56 AM
1 votes:

debug: LoneVVolf: Pokey.Clyde: And this is a load of crap. Unless you don't know how to turn your head and back out slowly, there is little to no difference when it comes to pulling out. Plus, everyone has to wait around on the asshole backing in to get out of the damn way when they're pulling in.

That's all well and good, until a pair of F-9750 grocery conquerors park to either side of you. Then if you pulled in forwards you can't see anything coming down the side lanes until your ass is out in traffic. If you backed in, you can see by poking your hood out and leaning forward.

When you are approaching a spot from the right-of-way, you can be aware of the entire area, when you are leaving the spot you are only aware of what you have LOS on; to me, it's worth the extra 10 seconds to back into the spot.

And yet I have managed to make it through almost 30 years of driving without ever being hit or hitting anything while backing out of a parking space.  Amazing, isn't it.

See, if you actually learn how to drive, you won't have to back in to parking spaces to be able to get out of them without causing an accident.

My all time favorite are the people who either pull through or back into a space at a grocery store.  I like to park as close to the back of their car as I can so they can't open the tailgate or trunk.


Why the fark should you or anyone else care if someone pulls forward into the next spot at the grocery store? Are you trolling?

Honestly the only people that irritate me with their parking are the ones who think their car is so great that they park in the middle of 2 spots so no one can park next to them.
2014-03-25 12:20:52 AM
1 votes:

Pokey.Clyde: Mikey1969: Except that with me, I have days where I can barely turn my head to watch in 42 directions at once, whereas if I back in, I've had the benefit of checking the area when I pulled up, and turned around.

If you aren't physically capable of turning your damn head to look for traffic/pedestrians, you shouldn't be driving.

lizyrd: If you can't park your car in reverse with a minimum of steering adjustments you should be banned from driving.

If you can't back out of a parking space, like a normal person, you should be banned from driving. This is doubly so when the parking spots are angled, rather than straight in. Because when they are angled, backing in/pulling out head first means you are driving the wrong damn way down a one way lane.


So backing into spaces-- which mechanically is exactly like backing out of spaces-- is somehow WRONG and SINFUL and reason to have your license revoked.

What I like about you is your openness to new ideas and ability to reason logically.

And who the hell said anything about angled spaces?
2014-03-25 12:15:25 AM
1 votes:

Pokey.Clyde: Mikey1969: Except that with me, I have days where I can barely turn my head to watch in 42 directions at once, whereas if I back in, I've had the benefit of checking the area when I pulled up, and turned around.

If you aren't physically capable of turning your damn head to look for traffic/pedestrians, you shouldn't be driving.


Unless your head pivots 360 degrees, you have a better field of vision looking forward than turning around in your seat and looking backwards while checking mirrors.  Plus, as has been stated above, in most vehicles the back end is higher than the front end, further impeding visibility.

lizyrd: If you can't park your car in reverse with a minimum of steering adjustments you should be banned from driving.

If you can't back out of a parking space, like a normal person, you should be banned from driving. This is doubly so when the parking spots are angled, rather than straight in. Because when they are angled, backing in/pulling out head first means you are driving the wrong damn way down a one way lane.


I agree about angled spaces, they're easier to just pull into straight.  As far as straight spaces go, it's not about 'can't' it's about what's better.

The same goes for rearview cameras - anyone should be able to back up a vehicle without one, but having one adds an extra chunk of visibility and improves safety.  Just because you _can_ do things the hard way, doesn't mean that you _should_.
2014-03-25 12:06:43 AM
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Pokey.Clyde: Mikey1969: Except that with me, I have days where I can barely turn my head to watch in 42 directions at once, whereas if I back in, I've had the benefit of checking the area when I pulled up, and turned around.

If you aren't physically capable of turning your damn head to look for traffic/pedestrians, you shouldn't be driving.

lizyrd: If you can't park your car in reverse with a minimum of steering adjustments you should be banned from driving.

If you can't back out of a parking space, like a normal person, you should be banned from driving. This is doubly so when the parking spots are angled, rather than straight in. Because when they are angled, backing in/pulling out head first means you are driving the wrong damn way down a one way lane.


It's preferable to not have to back out of a parking space, but I understand your need to insist that anyone backing into a spot is just there to make your day that much worse. Everyone obviously needs to conform to your standards. We'll all mark it in our "Tasks".
2014-03-24 11:59:43 PM
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Stoker: Can I spin again?
I bet the front plate doesn't have the expiration date on it like the back does.


Try again. Tags haven't gone on the plates in Texas for years. So no expiration date on front or back plate.
2014-03-24 11:57:49 PM
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Stoker: 99sportster: Stoker:

It's for the cops. So they can drive through and check your plates... so they can give you a ticket.
I bet her name went into his special black book. "I'll see you later."

This is in Texas.  We have plates on the back AND front.

Nice try, though.

Can I spin again?
I bet the front plate doesn't have the expiration date on it like the back does.


Actually, your plate's expiration date is on your windshield right with your inspection sticker.  No sticker on the plate at all.  Front or back.

Strike two.  Try again.
2014-03-24 11:53:16 PM
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Mikey1969: Except that with me, I have days where I can barely turn my head to watch in 42 directions at once, whereas if I back in, I've had the benefit of checking the area when I pulled up, and turned around.


If you aren't physically capable of turning your damn head to look for traffic/pedestrians, you shouldn't be driving.

lizyrd: If you can't park your car in reverse with a minimum of steering adjustments you should be banned from driving.


If you can't back out of a parking space, like a normal person, you should be banned from driving. This is doubly so when the parking spots are angled, rather than straight in. Because when they are angled, backing in/pulling out head first means you are driving the wrong damn way down a one way lane.
2014-03-24 11:51:29 PM
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I try to back in, when I can.
In addition to several of the reasons listed above, backing into a spot means it might be easier to get a jump if my battery dies.  Of course, the friend who mentioned that to me no longer backs into parking spaces, so YMMV.
2014-03-24 11:51:16 PM
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I wish the local police would start ticketing the idiots that always park on the sidewalk in front of our Walmart... some do it while they hit the Redbox inside the entrance, but I've seen others park there while they do a cart full of shopping.

WTF?

It's not some sort of special parking area for self-entitled jackasses.

Target, at least, has the right idea, putting giant red balls in that area, though their parking lots tend to separate the spaces from the entrance with large areas of landscaping. Between the landscaping and the handicap spots, it's rare to be able to park within 20 spaces of the entrance of a Target.

KMart... well, ours is a ghost town. Easy parking there, no waiting in line at the registers.
2014-03-24 11:45:01 PM
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gfid: brandent: d be banned from owning/driving vehicles.  For those who think this do me a favor.  Next time you park this way count how many times you have to look in a mirror both in and out and how many times you have to adjust your steering.  Now do it again only parking normally (head first).  There is no comparison.  Period.  It's right up there with driving with both feet left foot for brake and right foot for gas.  I've known people who do it and it's just plain dumb and

I don't back into spaces in parking lots, but I do back into my garage and it's partly because I like just jumping in my car and going forwards, but there is also a safety element.  There's a bunch of other garages all in the same alley along with other cars and sometimes kids, small animals and an occasional garbage truck.  My windows are tinted dark and rear visibility is not great.  I don't know what's out there when I leave.  I do however know what's in my garage when I come home.

I wonder if that other guy complaining about having to wait for people to back in whines about having to wait for people to back out, because for any competent driver they both take the same amount of time.

Of course a lot of people aren't competent drivers.  An SUV nearly backed into me a couple months ago.  She was trying to back out and I'm waiting for the car in front of me to move.  I should have been visible through all 3 of her mirrors as well as if she had turned her head, but she just puts it in reverse and starts coming at me.  I honked 3 times before she noticed me and then SHE got mad and honked back at me.  Maybe I should have let her hit me.  I don't know.


Similar story, Christmas season '98. Guy in a hurry backs out of his spot, t - boning my passenger door. He admitted he didn't re - check his mirrors after shifting into reverse. Now, had he backed into the spot, this would not have happened. He would have seen me right in front of him.

Meh, I sent him a $700 repair estimate; he sent me an $800 check for not reporting it to his insurance. Honestly, I think he was afraid his wife would find out. Best of all, it was an old car so I never had the repairs done. Christmas was free with money left over that year.
2014-03-24 11:31:54 PM
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brandent: d be banned from owning/driving vehicles.  For those who think this do me a favor.  Next time you park this way count how many times you have to look in a mirror both in and out and how many times you have to adjust your steering.  Now do it again only parking normally (head first).  There is no comparison.  Period.  It's right up there with driving with both feet left foot for brake and right foot for gas.  I've known people who do it and it's just plain dumb and


I don't back into spaces in parking lots, but I do back into my garage and it's partly because I like just jumping in my car and going forwards, but there is also a safety element.  There's a bunch of other garages all in the same alley along with other cars and sometimes kids, small animals and an occasional garbage truck.  My windows are tinted dark and rear visibility is not great.  I don't know what's out there when I leave.  I do however know what's in my garage when I come home.

I wonder if that other guy complaining about having to wait for people to back in whines about having to wait for people to back out, because for any competent driver they both take the same amount of time.

Of course a lot of people aren't competent drivers.  An SUV nearly backed into me a couple months ago.  She was trying to back out and I'm waiting for the car in front of me to move.  I should have been visible through all 3 of her mirrors as well as if she had turned her head, but she just puts it in reverse and starts coming at me.  I honked 3 times before she noticed me and then SHE got mad and honked back at me.  Maybe I should have let her hit me.  I don't know.
2014-03-24 11:31:02 PM
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debug: LoneVVolf: Pokey.Clyde: And this is a load of crap. Unless you don't know how to turn your head and back out slowly, there is little to no difference when it comes to pulling out. Plus, everyone has to wait around on the asshole backing in to get out of the damn way when they're pulling in.

That's all well and good, until a pair of F-9750 grocery conquerors park to either side of you. Then if you pulled in forwards you can't see anything coming down the side lanes until your ass is out in traffic. If you backed in, you can see by poking your hood out and leaning forward.

When you are approaching a spot from the right-of-way, you can be aware of the entire area, when you are leaving the spot you are only aware of what you have LOS on; to me, it's worth the extra 10 seconds to back into the spot.

And yet I have managed to make it through almost 30 years of driving without ever being hit or hitting anything while backing out of a parking space.  Amazing, isn't it.

See, if you actually learn how to drive, you won't have to back in to parking spaces to be able to get out of them without causing an accident.

My all time favorite are the people who either pull through or back into a space at a grocery store.  I like to park as close to the back of their car as I can so they can't open the tailgate or trunk.


Ahh, you're one of those people who argues that there's no global warming because it's cold where you are right now, aren't you? Ignoring the overall data showing consecutive years of milder winters.

So your one special pristine driving record proves the whole point? You'd base a whole argument in a single data point. Know how I know you're not a scientist? Or any other kind of rational thinker?

Oh and btw: as one of those people whose cars you park so close to that I can't reach my trunk? Yeah, I just jump up on your bumper and walk on it with all my heavy bags until I can reach my trunk lock. And give a few good jumps on the way back out for good measure. You should probably check your suspension.
2014-03-24 11:25:38 PM
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Pokey.Clyde: TuteTibiImperes: Why would an apartment complex have a rule that you have to park 'head first'?  If I can I always prefer to back in to parking spaces, it makes it much safer when pulling out.

And this is a load of crap. Unless you don't know how to turn your head and back out slowly, there is little to no difference when it comes to pulling out. Plus, everyone has to wait around on the asshole backing in to get out of the damn way when they're pulling in.


Except that with me, I have days where I can barely turn my head to watch in 42 directions at once, whereas if I back in, I've had the benefit of checking the area when I pulled up, and turned around.
2014-03-24 11:19:19 PM
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In response to the back in v.pull in debate, I propose a third option, and my personal favorite: pull through. All the speed of pulling in combined with the quick egress of backing in.
2014-03-24 11:16:14 PM
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Benevolent Misanthrope: Silicon Sam: Pokey.Clyde: TuteTibiImperes: Why would an apartment complex have a rule that you have to park 'head first'?  If I can I always prefer to back in to parking spaces, it makes it much safer when pulling out.

And this is a load of crap. Unless you don't know how to turn your head and back out slowly, there is little to no difference when it comes to pulling out. Plus, everyone has to wait around on the asshole backing in to get out of the damn way when they're pulling in.

  Nearly all, make that all of the energy companies, Halliburton, etc, make the employees back into their spaces.  If there is a fire or emergency at the plant, the parking lot will empty out 3-5 times faster if everyone has to just drive forward to leave.  Much more efficient for evacuation.

In my case, I drive a large truck with a long bed, so backing in is much easier in a tight space because of the ridiculously long wheel base.  Unless I have TONS of room in the aisleway, where I can make a wide sweep around, I always back in.


It's way simpler. Most apartment complexes require you to have a sticker on your car that identifies you as a resident. It's a lot easier for the tow truck guys if the sticker is in the same place (the back of the car).
2014-03-24 11:07:46 PM
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It's not news, it's... not news.
2014-03-24 10:53:53 PM
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Pokey.Clyde: TuteTibiImperes: Why would an apartment complex have a rule that you have to park 'head first'?  If I can I always prefer to back in to parking spaces, it makes it much safer when pulling out.

And this is a load of crap. Unless you don't know how to turn your head and back out slowly, there is little to no difference when it comes to pulling out. Plus, everyone has to wait around on the asshole backing in to get out of the damn way when they're pulling in.


It's for the cops. So they can drive through and check your plates... so they can give you a ticket.
I bet her name went into his special black book. "I'll see you later."
2014-03-24 10:50:29 PM
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"Turns out we're both from Alabama," said [Officer] King. "And we ended up in Texas. We talked and now I have a new friend."

An adult has a 14yo girl as a "friend".

blurbrain.com
/great part is, he can arrest himself
2014-03-24 10:34:32 PM
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The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the red zone.
2014-03-24 10:28:47 PM
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CruiserTwelve: "I would say the lesson is not to be afraid of law enforcement, we're here to help," he said. "From the officer's side of things, we learn not to take ourselves so seriously. There's a lot of responsibility and power that comes with a badge but every once in a while we can step back and say, 'You know what, a lot of these people we're protecting, not everyone is a bad guy.'"

Good attitude, but I'd change it to "Very few are bad guys."


I agree. Unfortunately, when you are constantly dealing with the worst of society, it can be easy to forget that.
2014-03-24 10:19:31 PM
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"I would say the lesson is not to be afraid of law enforcement, we're here to help," he said. "From the officer's side of things, we learn not to take ourselves so seriously. There's a lot of responsibility and power that comes with a badge but every once in a while we can step back and say, 'You know what, a lot of these people we're protecting, not everyone is a bad guy.'"

Good attitude, but I'd change it to "Very few are bad guys."
 
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