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2014-03-24 04:15:16 PM
They didn't in 2008 or 2012 either.
 
2014-03-24 04:18:12 PM
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2014-03-24 04:35:11 PM

bdub77: [s3.amazonaws.com image 510x358]


I realize it's a joke, but Asian should be jutting out of the chart and piercing the guy
 
2014-03-24 05:01:05 PM

SilentStrider: They didn't in 2008 or 2012 either.


As TFA says, midterms are a little different.
 
2014-03-24 05:14:54 PM
Meh, it kinda makes sense given voter turnout (which in turn explains all of the voter ID laws).

http://www.aei-ideas.org/2013/02/the-gops-electoral-collapse-is-post po ned/  (And oh ye gods, that comment section).

And yet, when these numbers are plugged into the standard arithmetic for predicting voting outcomes, the expected increase in the Democratic vote in 2016 is not five, six, or seven percentage points. Nor even one or two percentage points. The demographic changes I just described may be expected to produce an increase in the Democratic presidential vote of just three-tenths of one percentage point.

How is that possible? Because I neglected to mention one other set of numbers that goes into that arithmetic, also produced by the Census Bureau in periodic special surveys for the November Current Population survey: Voter turnout. In the presidential elections from 2000 through 2008 (the 2012 figures aren't yet available), the percentage of Americans eighteen years and older who actually voted averaged 57%. But those percentages varied widely by ethnic group. Among whites, the average turnout was 64%. Among blacks, 57%. Among Latinos and Asians, just 29%.

That's why the headwind is so feeble in the near term. Between 2012 and 2016, the Census Bureau estimates that the population of voting-age Latinos will increase by 3.9 million people compared to an increase of just 1.8 million whites. But because of their much lower turnout, the expected increase in Latino voters is 9,513 fewer-yes, fewer-than the expected increase in white voters. The only reason that the Democrats can expect even a microscopic 0.3 percentage point increase in the 2016 vote is because of an increase in the black voting-age population.
 
2014-03-24 05:27:52 PM
Good luck with that...
 
2014-03-24 06:05:19 PM
Remember they still have their secret weapon.....

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2014-03-24 06:18:09 PM
 
2014-03-24 08:02:44 PM
Vote for us! Vote for us! We don't need you, we don't like you, but VOTE for us!
 
2014-03-24 08:17:22 PM
Well yeah, hypothetically they could won with like 26% of the popular vote.

But that's not a strategy I would suggest.
 
2014-03-24 08:21:43 PM
Amnesty, we don't need no stinking amnesty
 
2014-03-24 08:24:32 PM
So have they booted out Ted Cruz?
 
2014-03-24 08:34:45 PM
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2014-03-24 08:46:55 PM
But what about badgers?

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2014-03-24 09:47:44 PM

Bith Set Me Up: But what about badgers?

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Where did you FIND this guy?!
 
2014-03-24 10:06:37 PM
Bueno.

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2014-03-24 10:16:50 PM

Witty_Retort: "The future of the conservative movement is as a home for white ethnocentrism."


Future? Also present and past.
 
2014-03-24 11:26:15 PM

DiRF: Bith Set Me Up: But what about badgers?

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Where did you FIND this guy?!


... I thought *YOU* hired him?!?!??
 
2014-03-25 12:40:14 AM

God-is-a-Taco: bdub77: [s3.amazonaws.com image 510x358]

I realize it's a joke, but Asian should be jutting out of the chart and piercing the guy


I had a polish guy rant to me for 4 hours about the 17th century..
 
2014-03-25 01:00:13 AM

gaspode: God-is-a-Taco: bdub77: [s3.amazonaws.com image 510x358]

I realize it's a joke, but Asian should be jutting out of the chart and piercing the guy

I had a polish guy rant to me for 4 hours about the 17th century..


I thought most people agreed that the various peoples of the Mideast retired that particular trophy?
 
2014-03-25 01:26:18 AM

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: gaspode: God-is-a-Taco: bdub77: [s3.amazonaws.com image 510x358]

I realize it's a joke, but Asian should be jutting out of the chart and piercing the guy

I had a polish guy rant to me for 4 hours about the 17th century..

I thought most people agreed that the various peoples of the Mideast retired that particular trophy?


I've heard an interesting theory on that topic.

The Middle Eastern people (at least the tribes) are innumerate.  Any time much past "In my grandfather's memory" is the same.  "My grandfather told me the story of when".

We hear

"700 years ago, the Queegs under Sir Qwa Khan came down and slaughtered 2000 people in the village"
vs.
"4 years ago, the Queegs launched an offensive out of the mountains and shot 2000 people to death"

And go "WTF, Let it go," and they hear:

"Dwah years ago, the Queegs under Sir Qwa Khan came down and slaughtered 2000 people in the village"
vs.
"Fweet years ago, the Queegs launched an offensive out of the mountains and shot 2000 people to death"

And sort of equate the 2.
 
2014-03-25 01:38:15 AM
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2014-03-25 02:11:41 AM

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: DiRF: Bith Set Me Up: But what about badgers?

[i1.ytimg.com image 480x360]

Where did you FIND this guy?!

... I thought *YOU* hired him?!?!??


*goes back to staring in disbelief*
 
2014-03-25 07:02:07 AM

meyerkev: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: gaspode: God-is-a-Taco: bdub77: [s3.amazonaws.com image 510x358]

I realize it's a joke, but Asian should be jutting out of the chart and piercing the guy

I had a polish guy rant to me for 4 hours about the 17th century..

I thought most people agreed that the various peoples of the Mideast retired that particular trophy?

I've heard an interesting theory on that topic.

The Middle Eastern people (at least the tribes) are innumerate.  Any time much past "In my grandfather's memory" is the same.  "My grandfather told me the story of when".

We hear

"700 years ago, the Queegs under Sir Qwa Khan came down and slaughtered 2000 people in the village"
vs.
"4 years ago, the Queegs launched an offensive out of the mountains and shot 2000 people to death"

And go "WTF, Let it go," and they hear:

"Dwah years ago, the Queegs under Sir Qwa Khan came down and slaughtered 2000 people in the village"
vs.
"Fweet years ago, the Queegs launched an offensive out of the mountains and shot 2000 people to death"

And sort of equate the 2.


That is an interesting and retarded theory that presupposes that all Middle Easterners are unable to do so much as count their camels. It's especially interesting and retarded given the particular people involved, especially if we're going to be talking about claims dating to medieval times. I mean, sure, the medieval Muslims were stunningly advanced mathematicians who invented algebra and trigonometry, and sure, the medieval Jews were the transnational bankers of Europe, managing interest-generating accounts in virtual currencies with double-entry bookkeeping at at time when illiterate heads of state were a thing. Still, I bet everyone's just holding onto those medieval grudges because Ahmed and Yitzhak forgot how to add two and two.

Besides, grudge-holding is certainly not limited to the Middle East. Never mind Korea and China's ongoing anger over Japanese occupation in the 1930s; that's small time. China claims islands in Indonesian waters because they appear on medieval Chinese fishing maps. Vietnam still resents medieval Chinese occupation, and still puts up statues of generals and warriors who fought to evict the Chinese. In Europe, Milosevic invoked the 1389 Battle of Kosovo to justify his genocide of Bosnian Muslims. Hell, the Irish are still angry about Cromwell.

I'd say that, taking a global perspective, the notion that nationalist outrage over past slights *isn't and shouldn't be* relevant to modern policy is an aberration largely confined to Western Europe and the Anglosphere (and frankly, given the history of the past few centuries, "let's all just forget about who killed whom and stole what" is a notion those societies find especially convenient).
 
2014-03-25 07:49:51 AM
Well the key strategy for outreach by the GOP seems to be getting a spray on tan, then talking "at" and "down" to Latinos. It basically comes across that the GOP feels that what the various Latino voting blocs' view points based on their entire life experiences are meaningless to the GOP; while the GOP bombards Latinos with talking points as reasons why their viewpoints mean nothing, trying to shame them into becoming Republicans. The concept of actually listening to Latinos, realizing the differences between Latino nationalities/ethnicities, and molding policies based on this to actually help them better their lives; escapes the modern GOP.
 
2014-03-25 08:12:36 AM

pkjun: Besides, grudge-holding is certainly not limited to the Middle East. Never mind Korea and China's ongoing anger over Japanese occupation in the 1930s; that's small time. China claims islands in Indonesian waters because they appear on medieval Chinese fishing maps. Vietnam still resents medieval Chinese occupation, and still puts up statues of generals and warriors who fought to evict the Chinese. In Europe, Milosevic invoked the 1389 Battle of Kosovo to justify his genocide of Bosnian Muslims. Hell, the Irish are still angry about Cromwell.

I'd say that, taking a global perspective, the notion that nationalist outrage over past slights *isn't and shouldn't be* relevant to modern policy is an aberration largely confined to Western Europe and the Anglosphere (and frankly, given the history of the past few centuries, "let's all just forget about who killed whom and stole what" is a notion those societies find especially convenient).


Not to mentions how much of western European politics is weirdly driven by things that happened centuries ago (like the English denigrating the French at every chance because they're still sore over what happened in 1066.)
 
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