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(Good Reads)   "Love isn't a state of perfect caring. 'Love' is an active noun, like 'struggle.' To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now." Happy birthday, Fred Rogers   (goodreads.com) divider line 77
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2014-03-24 05:17:44 PM  
I've always thought of love as a verb.
 
2014-03-24 05:32:41 PM  
It's really just a hormone imbalance
 
2014-03-24 05:57:21 PM  
You're a little late. His birthday was March 20th.

Fred Phelps died on Fred Rogers' birthday. The same Fred Rogers whose funeral he picketed.
 
2014-03-24 05:57:27 PM  
That's a man who I wish I could be more like.
 
2014-03-24 05:57:57 PM  
Love. v. The coincidence of two misunderstandings.
 
2014-03-24 06:00:44 PM  
love is the moment the little red trolley goes into the tunnel
 
2014-03-24 06:00:55 PM  

pgh9fan: Fred Phelps died on Fred Rogers' birthday.


There's a nice theological symmetry there.
 
2014-03-24 06:01:07 PM  
Who wants to make love? Let's get busy!
 
2014-03-24 06:02:04 PM  

encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com


RIP

 
2014-03-24 06:10:21 PM  
Fred Rogers is one of those truly wonderful human beings that is rightly revered by virtually everybody.  He was a truly gentle man who wanted above all for everyone to know that they were valuable and loved, and to teach others how to love people the way he did.  We could use a lot more like him.  I try to do my part, even if it's small and even if I don't always live up to it, because I know that Mr. Rogers would approve of the striving.

RIP Mr. Rogers.  You can ALWAYS be my neighbor.
 
2014-03-24 06:12:22 PM  

UnrepentantApostate: Fred Rogers is one of those truly wonderful human beings that is rightly revered by virtually everybody.  He was a truly gentle man who wanted above all for everyone to know that they were valuable and loved, and to teach others how to love people the way he did.  We could use a lot more like him.  I try to do my part, even if it's small and even if I don't always live up to it, because I know that Mr. Rogers would approve of the striving.

RIP Mr. Rogers.  You can ALWAYS be my neighbor.


He's the man Homer Simpson was really talking about when he said if there were more people we wouldnt need a Heaven because we'd always be there.
 
2014-03-24 06:13:35 PM  
The Slacktivist recently shared one of his favorite quotes from Fred Rogers. It's about how to deal with the existence of so much tragedy and so much awful behavior. He said that whenever you see a disaster, look for the helpers, the people moving towards the disaster to help those caught in it. They are  always there, and they are the reason we should have hope.

In honor of his memory, I'm pledging to always look for the helpers and to do my best to be one when the time comes.
 
2014-03-24 06:19:10 PM  
To paraphrase Mystery Men: "That is so deep, it's like....confusing."
 
2014-03-24 06:20:09 PM  
A man among men.
 
2014-03-24 06:20:35 PM  
You know his sniper victims would have had birthdays too subby .
 
2014-03-24 06:21:12 PM  
That reminds me, it's time to feed the fish.
 
2014-03-24 06:30:30 PM  

Some 'Splainin' To Do: The Slacktivist recently shared one of his favorite quotes from Fred Rogers. It's about how to deal with the existence of so much tragedy and so much awful behavior. He said that whenever you see a disaster, look for the helpers, the people moving towards the disaster to help those caught in it. They are  always there, and they are the reason we should have hope.

In honor of his memory, I'm pledging to always look for the helpers and to do my best to be one when the time comes.


img.fark.net
 
2014-03-24 06:30:31 PM  

pgh9fan: You're a little late. His birthday was March 20th.

Fred Phelps died on Fred Rogers' birthday. The same Fred Rogers whose funeral he picketed.


So close - Phelps died on the 19th.  Rogers' birthday was the 20th.
 
2014-03-24 06:32:28 PM  

RottenEggs: You know his sniper victims would have had birthdays too subby .


I was going to make a snarky, asshattish comment about this, but then I figured in a thread commemorating his birthday I could at least pretend to be the person Mr Rogers knew I could be. So, I'll just link to Snopes and call it a day.
 
2014-03-24 06:33:58 PM  
I remember growing up and watching his show, and being the dork that I am, I always tried to guess which color sweater he would wear that day. There was something about how he did the same thing each day that I found comforting. He is truly one of the good people that walked this Earth, a man who always tried to bring a smile to someone's face. There was a fascinating article that I read a couple of weeks ago about a reporter who followed him around everywhere for a couple of days, and how that experience changed him. Sadly, my Google-Fu is weak and I cannot remember where I read it; I think it was a large magazine/paper like the New Yorker or Rolling Stone. Ugh...
 
2014-03-24 06:34:28 PM  
Love isn't a state of perfect caring

Terrible.  He clearly falls far from love in the Love-Fear lifeline.  Don't be an anger prisoner.
 
2014-03-24 06:34:59 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: pgh9fan: Fred Phelps died on Fred Rogers' birthday.

There's a nice theological symmetry there.


Two ministers named Fred who represented the extreme ends of the spectrum of the best and the worst of Christianity.
Both dead, but the memory Fred Rogers deserves the more prominent place in our thoughts.
Here's the man schooling (and shaming) Congress.
 
2014-03-24 06:35:25 PM  
I'm sure this gets linked every year, but here's one of the best profiles I've ever read:  http://www.esquire.com/features/can-you-say-hero-esq1198
 
2014-03-24 06:35:38 PM  
Fred Rogers was a brilliant and beautiful man. His was the brilliance and beauty that comes from a deep humility, and a love that transcends boundaries.
 
2014-03-24 06:36:02 PM  

RottenEggs: You know his sniper victims would have had birthdays too subby .


LIAR-WHORE!  LIAR-WHORE!!!

There, I did it for Noticeably F.A.T.  You're welcome.
 
2014-03-24 06:36:18 PM  
seattletimes.com
 
2014-03-24 06:37:12 PM  

ArgusRun: I'm sure this gets linked every year, but here's one of the best profiles I've ever read:  http://www.esquire.com/features/can-you-say-hero-esq1198


Ah that was the one... funny, I just found that link myself and was about to post it, but I see that you beat me to the punch :)
 
2014-03-24 06:39:16 PM  

Noticeably F.A.T.: RottenEggs: You know his sniper victims would have had birthdays too subby .

I was going to make a snarky, asshattish comment about this, but then I figured in a thread commemorating his birthday I could at least pretend to be the person Mr Rogers knew I could be. So, I'll just link to Snopes and call it a day.


Sorry ,I couldn't  pass up an opportunity to post the same thing I posted in a thread a couple of days ago .

http://www.fark.com/comments/8186866/Wont-you-be-my-neighbor-Mr-Roge rs -would-have-turned-86-today
 
2014-03-24 06:40:26 PM  
Love is indeed a noun - e.g. He coated her face with his love
 
2014-03-24 06:41:09 PM  

pgh9fan: You're a little late. His birthday was March 20th.

Fred Phelps died on Fred Rogers' birthday. The same Fred Rogers whose funeral he picketed.


This. I know because I share a birthday with him. I didn't find that out until recently. When I was young I only knew about William Hurt and Spike Lee sharing my birthday, both of whom I don't care much for. Then thanks to Wikipedia I found out about Carl Reiner, Mr Rogers, and John de Lancie sharing my birthday!

/Loved Mr Rogers as a kid
 
2014-03-24 06:42:34 PM  

pgh9fan: You're a little late. His birthday was March 20th.

Fred Phelps died on Fred Rogers' birthday. The same Fred Rogers whose funeral he picketed.


And the one who spent his whole life talking about God is the one burning and begging for the others forgiveness. Pisser is, he'd probably get it.
 
2014-03-24 06:43:22 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: pgh9fan: Fred Phelps died on Fred Rogers' birthday.

There's a nice theological symmetry there.


This guy thought so. (It's where I got the information.)
http://triblive.com/opinion/ericheyl/5768317-74/phelps-rogers-westbo ro #axzz2wvHJbj98
 
2014-03-24 06:44:03 PM  
It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood
A beautiful day for a neighbor
Would you be my
Could you be my
Wont you be my neighbor
 
2014-03-24 06:44:35 PM  
Fred Rogers obviously never lived in rural Arizona. Love is a 12 pack of cheap beer, a pickup, desert stars in a black sky, coyotes howling and a female that thinks your eyes are pretty. Oh and maybe some meth.
 
2014-03-24 06:47:26 PM  

RottenEggs: You know his sniper victims would have had birthdays too subby .


Not this shiat again! There are few things left in this world that I wish to remain sacrosanct. Fred Roger's legacy is one of them...

img.fark.net
 
2014-03-24 06:50:39 PM  
Love is just lust in disguise
 
2014-03-24 06:52:25 PM  
True love.....say it with Krylon
 
2014-03-24 06:54:49 PM  

Some 'Splainin' To Do: The Slacktivist recently shared one of his favorite quotes from Fred Rogers. It's about how to deal with the existence of so much tragedy and so much awful behavior. He said that whenever you see a disaster, look for the helpers, the people moving towards the disaster to help those caught in it. They are  always there, and they are the reason we should have hope.

In honor of his memory, I'm pledging to always look for the helpers and to do my best to be one when the time comes.


*Insert Katrina-Heineken man pic here*
 
2014-03-24 06:58:49 PM  
So by this definition, Jihad is Love.
 
2014-03-24 06:59:59 PM  
This is a bookmark.
 
2014-03-24 07:00:34 PM  

ArgusRun: I'm sure this gets linked every year, but here's one of the best profiles I've ever read:  http://www.esquire.com/features/can-you-say-hero-esq1198


"Will you be with me when I die?" is where it gets me.

/dusty
 
2014-03-24 07:12:13 PM  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Upm9LnuCBUM

His emmy speech.

/Hope you have tissues handy
 
2014-03-24 07:12:50 PM  
Love is when someone farts, and you smell their farts, those farts smell just as good as when you smell your own farts.

/farts
//you smell your own farts and like it
///you farting liar
 
2014-03-24 07:13:58 PM  
Is that song stuck in your head yet or should I re-post it

/got to get me some of those cheap ass deck shoes
 
2014-03-24 07:14:50 PM  
"To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now."

Try telling that to a woman.
 
2014-03-24 07:15:07 PM  
Many manly tears were shed...
 
2014-03-24 07:23:17 PM  
Love, Love is a verb, love is a doing word; fearless on my breath.

http://youtu.be/jpLt4LB2pVU
 
2014-03-24 07:24:33 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-03-24 07:25:57 PM  
Like struggle huh. He got that right with one of my ex's. I gave up on that shiat. Girl was crazy. At some point you can give up on crazy and love if you aren't getting paid to care for it. They should teach that one to kids too.

/Liked mr rogers
 
2014-03-24 07:40:50 PM  
i.imgur.com


Won't you be our neighbor?
 
2014-03-24 07:51:00 PM  

Noticeably F.A.T.: RottenEggs: You know his sniper victims would have had birthdays too subby .

I was going to make a snarky, asshattish comment about this, but then I figured in a thread commemorating his birthday I could at least pretend to be the person Mr Rogers knew I could be. So, I'll just link to Snopes and call it a day.


Your polite response and considerate link made me smile. Thank you, kind sir.
 
2014-03-24 07:59:27 PM  
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2014-03-24 08:00:27 PM  
Ever notice that Joel Hodgson has the same laconic, slightly spacey cadence that Fred Rogers had? And also did a TV show alongside some very curious looking puppets, and liked to play make believe with common everyday objects found around the house?

There's a strange conspiracy at work here, but I'm not drunk enough yet to crack it. Let me drain the Keg of Illumination and see if the universe won't open up her veils of mystery and give me a little peek at her hidden wonders. I'll lick this riddle no matter how deep I have to go.
 
2014-03-24 08:07:15 PM  

Anastacya: I remember growing up and watching his show, and being the dork that I am, I always tried to guess which color sweater he would wear that day. There was something about how he did the same thing each day that I found comforting. He is truly one of the good people that walked this Earth, a man who always tried to bring a smile to someone's face. There was a fascinating article that I read a couple of weeks ago about a reporter who followed him around everywhere for a couple of days, and how that experience changed him. Sadly, my Google-Fu is weak and I cannot remember where I read it; I think it was a large magazine/paper like the New Yorker or Rolling Stone. Ugh...


he supposedly did his routine that way because he knew that a lot of children who watched him had no stability in their homes. He believed that bringing a little bit of stability to those kids would be beneficial.

I can barely think of the guy without bawling. What an amazing person.
 
2014-03-24 08:11:28 PM  
"When I was a boy and I would see scary things in the news, my mother would say to me, "Look for the helpers. You will always find people who are helping."

―  Fred Rogers

This quotation sounds like the sayings of Zen Masters and mystics that are quoted in my Zen page-a-day calenders. Some of them bring tears to my eyes, and this is one, now two, that are traceable to Fred Rogers.

Mrs. Rogers, on the basis of those two statements, clearly taught her son well. There's a depth, sincerity and simpleness of wisdom there. My family tree has a number of Saints: Saint Begga, Saint Margaret, Saint Arnulf (aka Arnold). It has a number of Venerables as well, including the Founder of the Order of the Grey Nuns. Children used to pursue them in the streets of Montreal chanting "les soeurs grises! les soeurs grises!" which means the grey sisters but also the drunken sisters.

I'd trade the lot of them for Mrs. Rogers. She was a saint. The Devil's Advocate could not find fault with a woman whose son says such things or was as patient and kindly as her son Fred.

Indians would say that she was an avatar of some great saint or god. The Greeks would say that she was an epiphany. The mystics would say that she was a ruby beyond measure.

Oddly enough, she was a Presbyterian. More proof for my theory that Scottish women are a separate race from their men. Such things have happened--entire armies have settled down with native wives, with the women maintaining the old language and culture for centuries, separate from the language and culture of their menfolk. Perhaps she is the remnant of an ancient race of wise women. Better still, she might be a harbinger or false dawn of a higher type of human yet to come.
 
2014-03-24 08:11:42 PM  

Anastacya: I remember growing up and watching his show, and being the dork that I am, I always tried to guess which color sweater he would wear that day. There was something about how he did the same thing each day that I found comforting. He is truly one of the good people that walked this Earth, a man who always tried to bring a smile to someone's face. There was a fascinating article that I read a couple of weeks ago about a reporter who followed him around everywhere for a couple of days, and how that experience changed him. Sadly, my Google-Fu is weak and I cannot remember where I read it; I think it was a large magazine/paper like the New Yorker or Rolling Stone. Ugh...


There was something done by an MTV producer, "Mr Rogers and Me".  Could that be it?
 
2014-03-24 08:19:14 PM  

brantgoose: "When I was a boy and I would see scary things in the news, my mother would say to me, "Look for the helpers. You will always find people who are helping."

―  Fred Rogers

This quotation sounds like the sayings of Zen Masters and mystics that are quoted in my Zen page-a-day calenders. Some of them bring tears to my eyes, and this is one, now two, that are traceable to Fred Rogers.

Mrs. Rogers, on the basis of those two statements, clearly taught her son well. There's a depth, sincerity and simpleness of wisdom there. My family tree has a number of Saints: Saint Begga, Saint Margaret, Saint Arnulf (aka Arnold). It has a number of Venerables as well, including the Founder of the Order of the Grey Nuns. Children used to pursue them in the streets of Montreal chanting "les soeurs grises! les soeurs grises!" which means the grey sisters but also the drunken sisters.

I'd trade the lot of them for Mrs. Rogers. She was a saint. The Devil's Advocate could not find fault with a woman whose son says such things or was as patient and kindly as her son Fred.

Indians would say that she was an avatar of some great saint or god. The Greeks would say that she was an epiphany. The mystics would say that she was a ruby beyond measure.

Oddly enough, she was a Presbyterian. More proof for my theory that Scottish women are a separate race from their men. Such things have happened--entire armies have settled down with native wives, with the women maintaining the old language and culture for centuries, separate from the language and culture of their menfolk. Perhaps she is the remnant of an ancient race of wise women. Better still, she might be a harbinger or false dawn of a higher type of human yet to come.


media0.giphy.com
 
2014-03-24 08:33:48 PM  

wesmon: "To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now."

Try telling that to a woman.


Hey, he only said "strive". He didn't say "be a doormat". After you've given it your best shot it's okay to withdraw and deal with things later.

Mister Rogers, being human, must've had one day where he was sick of Mrs. Rogers' shiat, said "screw this" and spent the afternoon at the tavern watching the Pirates game.
 
2014-03-24 08:33:59 PM  
Great words from a great, yet humble man.  An example to strive for...
 
2014-03-24 08:55:43 PM  

pgh9fan: You're a little late. His birthday was March 20th.

Fred Phelps died on Fred Rogers' birthday. The same Fred Rogers whose funeral he picketed.


Hopefully Fred Phelps is in a nice warm place now.

/Don't fark with Mr. Rogers
 
2014-03-24 09:04:42 PM  
It's altogether likely that love is an abstract conception borne out of the need for procreation, biological sexual urges, tribal identification, companionship and the desire to not be alone. Other than that, it probably doesn't exist. Especially in the exalted literary sense (which is really just absolute trust and devotion/worship than genuine love).
 
2014-03-24 09:13:06 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: It's really just a hormone imbalance


They stop moaning if you pay them.
 
2014-03-24 09:16:01 PM  
Hmm..I have to disagree with that definition.   I don't remember who said it but the definition that works for me is that anyone/thing you truly love you'd gladly take with you to eternity.  There are a few people in the world who fit that definition for me. And a few things.
 
2014-03-24 09:20:35 PM  

pgh9fan: You're a little late. His birthday was March 20th.

Fred Phelps died on Fred Rogers' birthday. The same Fred Rogers whose funeral he picketed.


There was a thread about it here too. Might have been in the entertainment tab, can't remember for sure.

/greetings, fellow 'burgher
 
2014-03-24 10:27:35 PM  

Abox: Hmm..I have to disagree with that definition.   I don't remember who said it but the definition that works for me is that anyone/thing you truly love you'd gladly take with you to eternity.  There are a few people in the world who fit that definition for me. And a few things.


Right.  Kind of like prayer.  Why take it upon yourself to do the difficult thing in the here and now, where it would effect positive change upon the world, when you can defer that effort indefinitely in favor of an abstract concept?
 
2014-03-24 10:28:39 PM  

Gulper Eel: wesmon: "To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now."

Try telling that to a woman.

Hey, he only said "strive". He didn't say "be a doormat". After you've given it your best shot it's okay to withdraw and deal with things later.

Mister Rogers, being human, must've had one day where he was sick of Mrs. Rogers' shiat, said "screw this" and spent the afternoon at the tavern watching the Pirates game.


He never drank or smoked, his weight was always 143 (the number of letters in "I Love You") and he like to go swimming in the nude, which was probably the most scandalous thing about him.
 
2014-03-24 10:34:34 PM  
Man did I love Mr. Rogers as a kid. Always one of the highlights of my week was getting to watch his show. It was just great.
 
2014-03-24 10:35:09 PM  
"Love is an action, not an emotion" is a concept I figured out by the time I was 12 years old, and it's one of the few philosophical ideas that hasn't changed one bit for me since then.  To read that Fred Rogers held the same conviction makes me feel proud of that fact, and hopeful that I can hold onto it as long as he did.
 
2014-03-24 10:36:14 PM  
Why do you say Happy Birthday to a dead man? He can't hear you.
 
2014-03-24 11:34:37 PM  

Z-clipped: Abox: Hmm..I have to disagree with that definition.   I don't remember who said it but the definition that works for me is that anyone/thing you truly love you'd gladly take with you to eternity.  There are a few people in the world who fit that definition for me. And a few things.

Right.  Kind of like prayer.  Why take it upon yourself to do the difficult thing in the here and now, where it would effect positive change upon the world, when you can defer that effort indefinitely in favor of an abstract concept?


Huh?  I'm saying what you love you would keep forever...not sure how that's deferring effort.
 
2014-03-24 11:47:51 PM  

bratface: Why do you say Happy Birthday to a dead man? He can't hear you.


for the same reason your crack head 40 drinking ass pours some on the gound and say "for my homies".
 
2014-03-25 12:10:59 AM  

Klaumbaz: bratface: Why do you say Happy Birthday to a dead man? He can't hear you.

for the same reason your crack head 40 drinking ass pours some on the gound and say "for my homies".


What? Were you having a stroke when you typed that?
 
2014-03-25 12:40:20 AM  
1 John 4:8 - God is Love

/that is all
 
2014-03-25 01:10:15 AM  

brantgoose: "When I was a boy and I would see scary things in the news, my mother would say to me, "Look for the helpers. You will always find people who are helping."

―  Fred Rogers

This quotation sounds like the sayings of Zen Masters and mystics that are quoted in my Zen page-a-day calenders. Some of them bring tears to my eyes, and this is one, now two, that are traceable to Fred Rogers.

Mrs. Rogers, on the basis of those two statements, clearly taught her son well. There's a depth, sincerity and simpleness of wisdom there. My family tree has a number of Saints: Saint Begga, Saint Margaret, Saint Arnulf (aka Arnold). It has a number of Venerables as well, including the Founder of the Order of the Grey Nuns. Children used to pursue them in the streets of Montreal chanting "les soeurs grises! les soeurs grises!" which means the grey sisters but also the drunken sisters.

I'd trade the lot of them for Mrs. Rogers. She was a saint. The Devil's Advocate could not find fault with a woman whose son says such things or was as patient and kindly as her son Fred.

Indians would say that she was an avatar of some great saint or god. The Greeks would say that she was an epiphany. The mystics would say that she was a ruby beyond measure.

Oddly enough, she was a Presbyterian. More proof for my theory that Scottish women are a separate race from their men. Such things have happened--entire armies have settled down with native wives, with the women maintaining the old language and culture for centuries, separate from the language and culture of their menfolk. Perhaps she is the remnant of an ancient race of wise women. Better still, she might be a harbinger or false dawn of a higher type of human yet to come.


Interesting thought. I grew up with Mr.Rogers on the tube from childhood, but I didn't love him until I was much older. I think I outgrew the tv show, and as a child foolishly yet predictably forgot about him.
Understanding the world with a broader perspective later in life, I get misty when I see his defending of PBS to congress. (but I only was aware of that years later)


//slow to appreciate Pete Seeger also... and Hunter S. Thompson... and many others
///exposed to Mark Twain real early though... and Kurt Vonnegut
////Great Americans who understood freedom, love, and prosperity, perhaps as much as Fred Rogers
 
2014-03-25 03:42:05 AM  

Broke Angry and Depressed: He never drank or smoked


I never said he drank at the tavern, only that in every marriage there's moments when one person or the other is being biatchy and can't be reasoned with until after a cooling-off period - preferably spent with the game on and a beverage of some sort. If that was birch beer for Fred, good for him.
 
2014-03-25 06:45:27 AM  

Clemkadidlefark: 1 John 4:8 - God is Love


What does that mean?
 
2014-03-25 09:28:31 AM  
Thank you subs. I have been struggling with a very personal issue for several months now, and that quote has really helped me out.

/seriously. Thank you.
 
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