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(ESPN)   Mark Cuban says NFL is ten years away from implosion because of rampant greed, unlike the NBA which will soar to new heights with ads right on the jerseys   (espn.go.com) divider line 78
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2014-03-24 02:51:39 PM  
Works fine for Nascar and international soccer clubs.

Oh and everyone wearing Nike and Addidas and Reebok are already advertising.
 
2014-03-24 02:54:21 PM  
Cuban was specifically referring to the NFL's recently expanding its television package. He considers it a poor business decision for the NFL, which consistently dominates TV ratings, to play games on days other than Sunday and Monday.

I agree. I didn't watch any Thursday night games this past season.
 
2014-03-24 03:05:59 PM  
Just wait until they start computer projecting the commercials onto the field background.  We already have branded red zones, so why not video too?
 
2014-03-24 03:15:58 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Just wait until they start computer projecting the commercials onto the field background.  We already have branded red zones, so why not video too?


I'd almost take that over the TV commercial breaks. Verizon has been killing me during these tournament games, it seems there's a commercial break every 3 or 4 minutes.

i1.ytimg.com
 
2014-03-24 03:43:40 PM  

drew46n2: I'd almost take that over the TV commercial breaks.


I hadn't been to a pro game in YEARS (last one was an Oilers game at the Dome) and made a Cowboys game a couple of years ago. The new stadium is very impressive but the game was boring as shiat..it seemed like every 2 minutes or so the players were standing around with their thumbs up their asses while some lame ass commercial was being played on the big screen or on one of the stages at either end zone. The Miller Lite drummers were painfully hilarious though.

I'll stick to watching NFL Red Zone.
 
2014-03-24 03:53:00 PM  
Sounds like somebody wishes he was an NFL owner.
 
2014-03-24 03:58:01 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: I'll stick to watching NFL Red Zone.


I'd pay extra for commercial-free viewing of every channel I watch. My DVR has made watching "live" programs almost impossible, except for sports, which I can't bring myself to record just to skim commercials.
 
2014-03-24 04:26:19 PM  
The NFL is an undetermined number of years away from implosion because a lot of parents are going to stop letting their kids play because of concussions, and school districts are going to stop their programs because of liability and expense.
 
2014-03-24 04:48:54 PM  
As opposed to the NBA, which imploded ten+ years ago when anybody with half a brain realized it was Predetermined.
 
2014-03-24 04:50:40 PM  

drew46n2: Marcus Aurelius: Just wait until they start computer projecting the commercials onto the field background.  We already have branded red zones, so why not video too?

I'd almost take that over the TV commercial breaks. Verizon has been killing me during these tournament games, it seems there's a commercial break every 3 or 4 minutes.

[i1.ytimg.com image 480x360]


Yeah, I noticed they went full NFL with the TV timeouts.  Four games on, and they're ALL in commercial?

Please.
 
2014-03-24 04:51:30 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: The NFL is an undetermined number of years away from implosion because a lot of parents are going to stop letting their kids play because of concussions, and school districts are going to stop their programs because of liability and expense.


As my nose tackle nephew Jeffy would say, "Truer words have never been speakeded."
 
2014-03-24 04:52:06 PM  
He makes a fair point about the owners being hogs. I've said it before and I'll say it again. The best and most compelling regular season left in the big three sports in the US is the NFL. Goodell et al are about to shiat on that with yet another playoff expansion. Get ready for multiple .500 teams in your football playoffs. Yawn. As a former MLB/NBA junkie who is down to the NFL as the last sport I watch at all anymore I say go ahead and dare me dumbasses. I will quit you dammit! Stop farking up a good product.
 
2014-03-24 04:52:30 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: The NFL is an undetermined number of years away from implosion because a lot of parents are going to stop letting their kids play because of concussions, and school districts are going to stop their programs because of liability and expense.


Maybe in upper-middle class white suburbia, but there are still plenty of poor corn-fed rednecks and minorities for them to cheer on and risk their health for a lottery ticket.
 
2014-03-24 04:55:18 PM  
He considers it a poor business decision for the NFL, which consistently dominates TV ratings, to play games on days other than Sunday and Monday.

As opposed to NBA, which is on whenever they want. Fark you.

Besides, I don't watch much football, so a Thursday game increases the chance that I might get to actually see my team play.
 
2014-03-24 04:58:27 PM  
5 years ago I would have thought such a statement was ludicrous, but it's gotten to the point that I actually agree with Cuban. Not just because of the Thursday night games (which I mostly don't watch), but
for a few reasons.  The increasing number and ambiguity of penalties - you're apparently not allowed to hit players anymore, and there are frequently penalties that I don't know what exactly was illegal on the play.  There are replays that announcers have admitted 'I don't know which way this is going to go because I really have no idea what the rules are anymore'.  The league is getting sued because of apparent indifference to player health, and their response is 'let's expand the schedule to 18 games and we don't give a rat's ass how many players get hurt'.  And in general, the game has gotten so slow that it's getting difficult to watch.  I don't know if it will be 10 years, but I think the NFL is definitely moving in the wrong direction.
 
2014-03-24 04:59:18 PM  
Yeah the NFL is on TV way too much.

Now, don't forget to tune in tonight on TNT for Bucks v. Wizards! And don't miss Bobcats v. 76ers tomorrow on NBA TV. Then a marquee matchup on Thursday with the Kings and the Mavericks on TBS!! Don't forget Friday's crucial draft lottery position game Celtics v. Lakers. And make sure to tune in Sunday for Heat v. Whoever No One Cares on ABC!

/make sure to catch Shark Tank, too, if anyone knows about over exposure it's Cuban
 
2014-03-24 05:00:41 PM  

buckeyebrain: As opposed to the NBA, which imploded ten+ years ago when anybody with half a brain realized it was Predetermined.


Oh FFS

memedad.com
 
2014-03-24 05:01:10 PM  

buckeyebrain: As opposed to the NBA, which imploded ten+ years ago when anybody with half a brain realized it was Predetermined.


Yeah, not unlike BCS title games, eh?
 
2014-03-24 05:02:39 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: The NFL is an undetermined number of years away from implosion because a lot of parents are going to stop letting their kids play because of concussions, and school districts are going to stop their programs because of liability and expense.


2.bp.blogspot.com

I suggest you read this book.

History is repeating itself, almost to an absurd level of similarity.
 
2014-03-24 05:06:10 PM  
rjakobi:  Yeah, not unlike BCS title games, eh?

NCAA football.  Now there's a sport that's going to implode because of greed.
 
2014-03-24 05:06:12 PM  

drew46n2: Marcus Aurelius: Just wait until they start computer projecting the commercials onto the field background.  We already have branded red zones, so why not video too?

I'd almost take that over the TV commercial breaks. Verizon has been killing me during these tournament games, it seems there's a commercial break every 3 or 4 minutes.

[i1.ytimg.com image 480x360]


They must not be killing you too much, since that's an AT&T commercial.
 
2014-03-24 05:06:57 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: The NFL is an undetermined number of years away from implosion because a lot of parents are going to stop letting their kids play because of concussions, and school districts are going to stop their programs because of liability and expense.



Yeah, greed isn't hurting the league, just its players. This is what will kill the NFL

www.nevadabusiness.com
 
2014-03-24 05:07:17 PM  
Look I know we already know the playoff teams have been determined and about a quarter of the league is tanking to try to get a draft pick, but there's still 37 games left in the season guys...until the two month long playoff. So watch some NBA regular season games. Please?
 
2014-03-24 05:08:12 PM  

buckeyebrain: As opposed to the NBA, which imploded ten+ years ago when anybody with half a brain realized it was Predetermined.



which totally explains the Spurs..........
 
2014-03-24 05:08:18 PM  

The Singing Bush: They must not be killing you too much, since that's an AT&T commercial.


it still sucks and it's still aired during every single commercial break of every single game.
 
2014-03-24 05:16:24 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: drew46n2: I'd almost take that over the TV commercial breaks.

I hadn't been to a pro game in YEARS (last one was an Oilers game at the Dome) and made a Cowboys game a couple of years ago. The new stadium is very impressive but the game was boring as shiat..it seemed like every 2 minutes or so the players were standing around with their thumbs up their asses while some lame ass commercial was being played on the big screen or on one of the stages at either end zone. The Miller Lite drummers were painfully hilarious though.

I'll stick to watching NFL Red Zone.


Wait, you have commercials in the stadium?  Ugh, I thought the ads before movies were bad.
 
2014-03-24 05:25:35 PM  
Mark Cuban is a loudmouth. However, I do not believe he is wrong about this. I already don't watch Monday night and Thursday night games. Sunday is enough. Too much, almost. And considering that Saturday is chock-full of football as well....meh. Even those if us that watch to vicariously recapture our High School playing days are getting bored...
 
2014-03-24 05:25:50 PM  
images.tvrage.com

/wtf is this shiat?
 
2014-03-24 05:27:21 PM  

Leader O'Cola: buckeyebrain: As opposed to the NBA, which imploded ten+ years ago when anybody with half a brain realized it was Predetermined.


which totally explains the Spurs..........


Do the words "International Markets" mean anything to you?
 
2014-03-24 05:27:23 PM  

DarkLancelot: Wait, you have commercials in the stadium?


It was a very surreal experience. (almost) 45 minutes of football and 2 hours and 15 minutes of Jerry trying to cover the electricity bill.
 
2014-03-24 05:42:22 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: The NFL is an undetermined number of years away from implosion because a lot of parents are going to stop letting their kids play because of concussions, and school districts are going to stop their programs because of liability and expense.


It is already affecting Pop Warner/pee wee football...by most estimations, Pop Warner sign ups have been down by 10%+ the last two years.... with some leagues having a 40% decline.  If those feeder programs aren't there, the NFL is looking at a hard road.
 
2014-03-24 05:44:59 PM  

Beerguy: Mr. Coffee Nerves: The NFL is an undetermined number of years away from implosion because a lot of parents are going to stop letting their kids play because of concussions, and school districts are going to stop their programs because of liability and expense.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 398x600]

I suggest you read this book.

History is repeating itself, almost to an absurd level of similarity.


The environment in which it's happening is different, giving it a different context. It was socially acceptable for children to work double shifts in an unsafe factory back then.
 
2014-03-24 05:45:06 PM  

The Singing Bush: drew46n2: Marcus Aurelius: Just wait until they start computer projecting the commercials onto the field background.  We already have branded red zones, so why not video too?

I'd almost take that over the TV commercial breaks. Verizon has been killing me during these tournament games, it seems there's a commercial break every 3 or 4 minutes.

[i1.ytimg.com image 480x360]

They must not be killing you too much, since that's an AT&T commercial.


Not to mention that Lily chick in the commercials has nice T&A.

/keeps me interested
//I'd only switch to at&t if it meant Lily giving me daily blowjobs
 
2014-03-24 05:54:37 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Works fine for Nascar and international soccer clubs.

Oh and everyone wearing Nike and Addidas and Reebok are already advertising.


www.vancouversun.com

They're not too bad on a football uniform if done right either.  I don't even notice them now actually.
 
2014-03-24 06:04:44 PM  

buckeyebrain: Leader O'Cola: buckeyebrain: As opposed to the NBA, which imploded ten+ years ago when anybody with half a brain realized it was Predetermined.


which totally explains the Spurs..........

Do the words "International Markets" mean anything to you?


Lol.  If International Markets ruled the roost, Kobe Bryant would win the Championship every single year, and not just when his team is gifted Pau Gasol for free.
 
2014-03-24 06:07:07 PM  

Triumph: Sounds like somebody wishes he was an NFL owner.


Goodell and Cuban.

There isn't enough popcorn in the world.

If he got Warren Buffett and Sir Richard Branson to be co-owners, they could just chuck a sofa in front of league headquarters and tell Goodell to take the fines from under the cushions.
 
2014-03-24 06:07:48 PM  
Football games are waaaaay too long.  NCAAF is much worse, but the NFL is bad.  Still, they've managed to create the Sunday as an 'event', and it's working.  Thursday games don't factor for me, since you have to buy their League Pass or whatever and I'm not gonna do that.  Monday Night Football is a good option after a tiring day of work.

The problem with the NFL is that the product is commodified within an inch of its life.  Each game is blitzed as some big event but there are few personalities or teams that seem very interesting.  Once Brady and Manning go, the game will suffer.  Plus any given year it's just any random team that will come out ahead.
 
2014-03-24 06:15:56 PM  

Triumph: Sounds like somebody wishes he was an NFL owner.


Yeah since NBA ratings have tanked since the 80s in comparison to the NFL.
 
2014-03-24 06:22:09 PM  

FlippityFlap: Mark Cuban is a loudmouth. However, I do not believe he is wrong about this. I already don't watch Monday night and Thursday night games. Sunday is enough. Too much, almost. And considering that Saturday is chock-full of football as well....meh. Even those if us that watch to vicariously recapture our High School playing days are getting bored...


Hell if there were a game every night I would watch, along with most of the nation, I just want rugby and Australian rules football back on TV in the US.
 
2014-03-24 06:25:36 PM  
I agree with Cuban on this. Personally, the NFL has already run me off. I first thought something was wrong when I got Sunday Ticket in about 2001. I realized that after the first year (which was reduced), it would be cheaper to eat breakfast and drink at the bar. I don't play fantasy football; I only wanted to see my team play.

shiat got worse with the NFL Network, which (IIRC) initially launched on higher tier cable packages. So, more money.

I started missing a few games here and there. All of a sudden, I realized I hadn't watched all season, and didn't miss it.
 
2014-03-24 06:28:13 PM  
Goodell is dead set on ruining the NFL.
 
2014-03-24 06:37:00 PM  

JerseyTim: Cuban was specifically referring to the NFL's recently expanding its television package. He considers it a poor business decision for the NFL, which consistently dominates TV ratings, to play games on days other than Sunday and Monday.

I agree. I didn't watch any Thursday night games this past season.


I just realized that I didn't either....
 
2014-03-24 06:38:54 PM  
Craw Fu: The increasing number and ambiguity of penalties - you're apparently not allowed to hit players anymore, and there are frequently penalties that I don't know what exactly was illegal on the play. There are replays that announcers have admitted 'I don't know which way this is going to go because I really have no idea what the rules are anymore'. The league is getting sued because of apparent indifference to player health, and their response is 'let's expand the schedule to 18 games and we don't give a rat's ass how many players get hurt'. And in general, the game has gotten so slow that it's getting difficult to watch. I don't know if it will be 10 years, but I think the NFL is definitely moving in the wrong direction.

It really has become ridiculous. Some of the officiating crews let them play, but others interject themselves into the game so much that it becomes unwatchable. I have had the NFL Sunday Ticket from DIRECTV, mainly because in my area the two home teams are Jacksonville and Tampa Bay, but I don't think I will renew next year. They claim you can watch 8 games at once, but the commercials are so frequent that at any one time at least four of those games are showing ads. The same ads, over and over until you want to puke. If you follow one team and want to watch their every game it would be worth it, but locally over the years we have gone from the Saints to the Bucs to the Falcons and now to the Jaguars as being our "home team".

I have cut back on my college football viewing because the baloney with the BCS aggravates me greatly and the ACC, the conference that I watch, now has too many teams to keep up with. I still watch all the Florida State games and some of their upcoming opponents games, but that's about it. This year I will drastically cut back on my NFL viewing to see if I can do without it. And the commercials and extra officiating nonsense is the main reason.

The extra patches on the uniforms isn't going to affect anything; at one point last season they were wearing frigging pink shoes and throwing pink flags, for crying out loud. I still maintain that was some kind of plot by drunken feminists and gays to make the NFL look silly: "we'll make all those tough guys wear pink shoes, wouldn't that just be marvelous?"
"we'll make those tough guys wear pink shoes
viewing
 
2014-03-24 06:41:19 PM  
As someone who doesn't have cable and doesn't stream, I hope professional sports all die a painful death. In essence, their seeking the greatest amount of revenue not the greatest amount of viewers.

Everyone could make money, have a good time and count on generations of viewers but NOOOOOOOOOO...

/the interesting thingy is college bowl games were dying until cable and national championships colluded
/I don't think I'd ever would want to pay to see the Hula Bowl...poi!
 
2014-03-24 06:45:26 PM  
Woo!  We needed another NBA hate thread.
 
2014-03-24 06:55:45 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: DarkLancelot: Wait, you have commercials in the stadium?

It was a very surreal experience. (almost) 45 minutes of football and 2 hours and 15 minutes of Jerry trying to cover the electricity bill.


Heck, might as well stay home where you already have to watch commercials and avoid the crowds and stay on your comfy chair. :)
 
2014-03-24 06:59:17 PM  

Gunny Highway: Woo!  We needed another NBA hate thread.


i thought we were hating on the NFL
 
2014-03-24 07:09:19 PM  

JerseyTim: I agree. I didn't watch any Thursday night games this past season.


The NFL is still the only one smart enough to realize it needs to be on OTA channels at least in local markets of the teams playing, but generally speaking, I agree.  I can't plan my week around my team's schedule and Thursday get to be tough.  I'd be perfectly happy if every Redskins game was an early kickoff on Sunday.  And based on their recent performance, that's the only kickoff time they deserve.
 
2014-03-24 07:10:46 PM  
I agree and disagree.  Having one game on Monday and one on Thursday isn't hurting the game but the contracts requiring n hours of non-game broadcasting is what's really going to hurt the league.  Sure the NBA is on every night of the week, but it's a game on every night of the week and maybe a half hour show on ESPN.  There's literally an NFL show on ESPN right before another NFL show on the network.

As far the NBA being "predetermined", not so much that as really biased officiating.  The officials get too wrapped up in the arena atmosphere and thus the home team seems to get 70% of the calls.
 
2014-03-24 07:12:14 PM  

drew46n2: Gunny Highway: Woo!  We needed another NBA hate thread.

i thought we were hating on the NFL


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