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(Salon)   Chris Christie's lawyers have cleared Chris Christie of any wrongdoing. Well, that settles that   (salon.com) divider line 39
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2014-03-24 12:42:16 PM
He isn't going to be elected President, bridge or no bridge.  And I think everyone knew he was kind of a dick.
 
2014-03-24 12:42:27 PM
"New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie has spent nearly all of 2014 attempting to outrun the Bridgegate controversy and reassert himself as the GOP's 2016 frontrunner."

Wait, is it 2015 already?
 
2014-03-24 12:45:58 PM

nmrsnr: "New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie has spent nearly all of 2014 attempting to outrun the Bridgegate controversy and reassert himself as the GOP's 2016 frontrunner."

Wait, is it 2015 already?


What do you mean?
 
2014-03-24 12:46:40 PM
Just look how the results of that internal investigation swept President Palin into the White House!
 
2014-03-24 12:55:19 PM

DamnYankees: What do you mean?


It's only 3 months into 2014, therefor Christie can't have spent nearly all of 2014 on anything. It should be all of 2014 so far.

/No jokes are funny when explained, especially not pedantic ones.
 
2014-03-24 12:57:08 PM

nmrsnr: It's only 3 months into 2014, therefor Christie can't have spent nearly all of 2014 on anything. It should be all of 2014 so far.


If we're going to be pedantic (and yay lets!), the quoted sentence says "has spent", so I think the sentence still works. Your objection would be valid had the word "has" not been present.
 
2014-03-24 01:19:36 PM

DamnYankees: nmrsnr: It's only 3 months into 2014, therefor Christie can't have spent nearly all of 2014 on anything. It should be all of 2014 so far.

If we're going to be pedantic (and yay lets!), the quoted sentence says "has spent", so I think the sentence still works. Your objection would be valid had the word "has" not been present.


The only distinction I'm aware of between "spent" and "has spent" is that "spent" implies that the period is over, while "has spent" connotes ongoing. So you could say that Christie has spent the majority of 2014 on something in the latter half of the year, or he spent the majority of the year after the year, either way connotes that the "majority of 2014" is a thing that already exists, which it currently does not.
 
2014-03-24 01:22:52 PM
I honestly can't tell if Christie was involved, but at best he has bad judgement in appointments at the very top of his administration, and at worst he's a criminal.

It wouldn't surprise me if he was politically vindictive though. He knew what he was doing at the GOP convention and during Sandy when he threw Romney under the bus. (And I'm OK with that.)

Then again, he chose to be a Republican. If you surround yourself with the GOP don't be surprised if they go behind your back to do terrible things.

Either way the dude has got to be politically dead for 2016.
 
2014-03-24 01:34:55 PM

DamnYankees: nmrsnr: It's only 3 months into 2014, therefor Christie can't have spent nearly all of 2014 on anything. It should be all of 2014 so far.

If we're going to be pedantic (and yay lets!), the quoted sentence says "has spent", so I think the sentence still works. Your objection would be valid had the word "has" not been present.


If we are going to be super pedantic, "spent" implies using up something until there is nothing left.  In this case "all of 2014".

What is "spent"?  Answer: "all of 2014".    To imply he "spent" all of 2014 from January 1st to the date of the article would be mean that this range is somehow significant.   In any case, if something is written properly it shouldn't be necessary for the reader to guess that he needs to check the article's date to make sense of it.

We should at least agree on it being poorly written.
 
2014-03-24 01:43:58 PM
"Never argue nomenclature with a pedant. It wastes your time and annoys the pedant."

For the record, I'm on the side of "poorly written but probably conveys its meaning anyway".
 
2014-03-24 01:45:09 PM
I had forgotten about the story.  Thank you Gov. Christie for creating another news story to remind me of how much a douche you are.  Had you not done anything, the story would have disappeared.
 
2014-03-24 01:46:40 PM

bdub77: I honestly can't tell if Christie was involved, but at best he has bad judgement in appointments at the very top of his administration, and at worst he's a criminal.

It wouldn't surprise me if he was politically vindictive though. He knew what he was doing at the GOP convention and during Sandy when he threw Romney under the bus. (And I'm OK with that.)

Then again, he chose to be a Republican. If you surround yourself with the GOP don't be surprised if they go behind your back to do terrible things.

Either way the dude has got to be politically dead for 2016.


Christie may be a bully and an asshole, but I don't think he's incompetent.

He absolutely knew what was going on with the bridge closure.
 
2014-03-24 01:46:45 PM

bdub77: Either way the dude has got to be politically dead for 2016.


And coronarily dead by 2017.
 
2014-03-24 01:48:25 PM

qorkfiend: "Never argue nomenclature with a pedant. It wastes your time and annoys the pedant."

For the record, I'm on the side of "poorly written but probably conveys its meaning anyway".

I prefer urbane and glib, not gruff and pedantic.

/not obscure
 
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2014-03-24 01:48:35 PM
Now that that's settled... time to eat

patriotplanet.com

Because with Christie, fat jokes are ALWAYS appropriate.
 
2014-03-24 01:49:52 PM

AeAe: bdub77: I honestly can't tell if Christie was involved, but at best he has bad judgement in appointments at the very top of his administration, and at worst he's a criminal.

It wouldn't surprise me if he was politically vindictive though. He knew what he was doing at the GOP convention and during Sandy when he threw Romney under the bus. (And I'm OK with that.)

Then again, he chose to be a Republican. If you surround yourself with the GOP don't be surprised if they go behind your back to do terrible things.

Either way the dude has got to be politically dead for 2016.

Christie may be a bully and an asshole, but I don't think he's incompetent.

He absolutely knew what was going on with the bridge closure.


Yeah, the fact that he claimed not to know about it at all until months later sets off the bullshiat alarm. It wasn't exactly unreported at the time.
 
2014-03-24 01:52:14 PM

AeAe: Christie may be a bully and an asshole, but I don't think he's incompetent.


I dunno. Remember when he blamed Obama for his own inability to fill out paper work for the Race to the Top contest? Christie can be incompetent and an asshole, which I think is an example of conservative exceptionalism.
 
2014-03-24 01:55:32 PM

EyeballKid: AeAe: Christie may be a bully and an asshole, but I don't think he's incompetent.

I dunno. Remember when he blamed Obama for his own inability to fill out paper work for the Race to the Top contest? Christie can be incompetent and an asshole, which I think is an example of conservative exceptionalism.


Lol.  That may be, but he was right in the middle of it when it was going on, so I find incredibly unlikely he had no farking idea.
 
2014-03-24 01:57:16 PM

AeAe: bdub77: I honestly can't tell if Christie was involved, but at best he has bad judgement in appointments at the very top of his administration, and at worst he's a criminal.

It wouldn't surprise me if he was politically vindictive though. He knew what he was doing at the GOP convention and during Sandy when he threw Romney under the bus. (And I'm OK with that.)

Then again, he chose to be a Republican. If you surround yourself with the GOP don't be surprised if they go behind your back to do terrible things.

Either way the dude has got to be politically dead for 2016.

Christie may be a bully and an asshole, but I don't think he's incompetent.

He absolutely knew what was going on with the bridge closure.


I'm pretty sure he's involved but I'm not 100% sure. I've not been following it much, so if there's a smoking gun I haven't seen it. There's a difference between being incompetent and being in full command of everyone around you. But I agree that it bears the mark of something he would have no problems doing.

I think what happened was he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar doing the kind of thing that happens in every big city. Which is really not surprising when you look at the size of that hand.
 
2014-03-24 02:16:45 PM
It certainly does. President Christie can now eat his way into the future. Yes, Pecan!
 
2014-03-24 02:26:40 PM

AeAe: EyeballKid: AeAe: Christie may be a bully and an asshole, but I don't think he's incompetent.

I dunno. Remember when he blamed Obama for his own inability to fill out paper work for the Race to the Top contest? Christie can be incompetent and an asshole, which I think is an example of conservative exceptionalism.

Lol.  That may be, but he was right in the middle of it when it was going on, so I find incredibly unlikely he had no farking idea.


there's no way all his subordinates did that without his approval. one of them would have snitched the other out to try to score points with the big guy.
 
2014-03-24 02:41:56 PM

mrshowrules: DamnYankees: nmrsnr: It's only 3 months into 2014, therefor Christie can't have spent nearly all of 2014 on anything. It should be all of 2014 so far.

If we're going to be pedantic (and yay lets!), the quoted sentence says "has spent", so I think the sentence still works. Your objection would be valid had the word "has" not been present.

If we are going to be super pedantic, "spent" implies using up something until there is nothing left.  In this case "all of 2014".

What is "spent"?  Answer: "all of 2014".    To imply he "spent" all of 2014 from January 1st to the date of the article would be mean that this range is somehow significant.   In any case, if something is written properly it shouldn't be necessary for the reader to guess that he needs to check the article's date to make sense of it.

We should at least agree on it being poorly written.


I say it's perfectly valid to assume "2014" is referring to the year up until now, since the broader interpretation assumes the hypothetical that "2014" will exist for an entire year. I don't think it's fair to judge people against an abstract hypothetical. Time and existence could simply cease to be and the sentence would be perfectly accurate
 
2014-03-24 02:46:59 PM
I'd be willing to give him a little slack on the Bridgegahzi if he slacked up on the medical marijuana dispensaries around here. New Jersey voters voted in medical pot in 2008, but the big guy figures he knows better-http://www.politickernj.com/node/71024

One of the couples mentioned in the article are friends of mine. Life long Jersey folk who are now moving away from their friends, family, and careers to Colorado so their 2 y/o daughter who suffers from Dravet syndrome can legally receive a low/no THC tincture that is proven to relieve her severe seizures and headaches.  The sooner the big guy leaves office the better, so I'm really hoping that the bridge stuff sticks.

In the interest of maybe helping him out the door, I'm plopping this link right here -    http://gawker.com/the-chris-christie-gangbang-sex-tape-that-wasnt-nsf w -1543352886  -  Uncanny, right?
 
2014-03-24 02:51:29 PM

Lost Thought 00: mrshowrules: DamnYankees: nmrsnr: It's only 3 months into 2014, therefor Christie can't have spent nearly all of 2014 on anything. It should be all of 2014 so far.

If we're going to be pedantic (and yay lets!), the quoted sentence says "has spent", so I think the sentence still works. Your objection would be valid had the word "has" not been present.

If we are going to be super pedantic, "spent" implies using up something until there is nothing left.  In this case "all of 2014".

What is "spent"?  Answer: "all of 2014".    To imply he "spent" all of 2014 from January 1st to the date of the article would be mean that this range is somehow significant.   In any case, if something is written properly it shouldn't be necessary for the reader to guess that he needs to check the article's date to make sense of it.

We should at least agree on it being poorly written.

I say it's perfectly valid to assume "2014" is referring to the year up until now, since the broader interpretation assumes the hypothetical that "2014" will exist for an entire year. I don't think it's fair to judge people against an abstract hypothetical. Time and existence could simply cease to be and the sentence would be perfectly accurate


With the Fartbongo in charge, it is truly optimistic to assume that we will get through all of 2014 with intelligent life on earth still being able to measure time and understand the concept of a year.
 
2014-03-24 03:12:02 PM
as a fat guy I would like to point out that running and keeping the lead is not something a fat guy can generally do for a long time.   I can run fairly fast on a sprint, as with a dwarf, but on distance I would need to walk.  I can walk 10 miles no problem, but run?  takes a lot out of me.
 
2014-03-24 03:29:47 PM
Rachel Maddow's been discussing the crisis in the Crimea, the Malaysian airplane, and oil leaks all over the country for the past few weeks. Guess it's time to bring back the bridge to the show. Whether you think it's sensationalism or just dragging Christie and his peons through the mud or not, it was damn entertaining commentary.
 
2014-03-24 03:32:49 PM
I don't like him.
 
2014-03-24 03:53:48 PM

bdub77: I honestly can't tell if Christie was involved, but at best he has bad judgement in appointments at the very top of his administration, and at worst he's a criminal.


From some of the reporting Maddow has done, it seems Christie operates like a mob boss. Nobody talks directly to him. Everything goes through of his two lawyers, and they decide whether or not to tell him. That way, he can legally say he didn't know nuthin' `bout nuthin'.

That is why he didn't ask Kelley what she meant with 'Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee.'

\The misappropriation of Sandy funds is what will ultimately do him in.
\\Maybe.
 
2014-03-24 04:02:38 PM
Fat boy is the next president of the United States. Bet on it.
 
2014-03-24 04:13:16 PM

bdub77: I honestly can't tell if Christie was involved, but at best he has bad judgement in appointments at the very top of his administration, and at worst he's a criminal.

It wouldn't surprise me if he was politically vindictive though. He knew what he was doing at the GOP convention and during Sandy when he threw Romney under the bus. (And I'm OK with that.)

Then again, he chose to be a Republican. If you surround yourself with the GOP don't be surprised if they go behind your back to do terrible things.

Either way the dude has got to be politically dead for 2016.


The chances that he wasn't involved are vanishingly slim and, if he in fact wasn't, it still means Christie is a ridiculously incompetent fool, whose closest advisers can formulate and pursue a criminal conspiracy right under his nose over the course of weeks without him catching so much as a whiff of it. Like I said though, the idea he didn't know this was going on, and that he didn't order it, is laughable in the extreme. This is basically Iran-Contra all over again, except that Christie ain't Reagan or the President, so neither the media nor the political elite have much invested in making sure he doesn't get caught out for his absurd falsehoods.
 
2014-03-24 04:16:55 PM

Witty_Retort: bdub77: I honestly can't tell if Christie was involved, but at best he has bad judgement in appointments at the very top of his administration, and at worst he's a criminal.

From some of the reporting Maddow has done, it seems Christie operates like a mob boss. Nobody talks directly to him. Everything goes through of his two lawyers, and they decide whether or not to tell him. That way, he can legally say he didn't know nuthin' `bout nuthin'.

That is why he didn't ask Kelley what she meant with 'Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee.'

\The misappropriation of Sandy funds is what will ultimately do him in.
\\Maybe.


Considering the persistent rumors in New Jersey that he is mobbed up, that wouldn't be surprising in the least.
 
2014-03-24 04:17:35 PM

doubled99: Fat boy is the next president of the United States. Bet on it.


That's a terrible thing to call Hillary.
 
2014-03-24 04:23:31 PM

max_pooper: doubled99: Fat boy is the next president of the United States. Bet on it.

That's a terrible thing to call Hillary.


Huh?

/Lame
 
2014-03-24 04:37:51 PM
SHhhhhh. Investigation is ongoing. Hold your breath. Any day now.
 
2014-03-24 04:39:52 PM

nmrsnr: attempting to outrun the Bridgegate controversy


Someone trying to catch you, while you remain uncaught ≠ running from.
 
2014-03-24 04:56:01 PM

s2s2s2: SHhhhhh. Investigation is ongoing. Hold your breath. Any day now.


Yeah, they'll all look so stupid when that traffic study is released.
 
2014-03-24 05:03:58 PM
If he lied and did know about the bridge, the Democrats will smear him for being a liar and untrustworthy.
If he didn't know, and his subordinates were doing this on their own, the Democrats will smear him for being incompetent and unable to manage his staff.

Either way, only idiots will even let Christie show up on the Republican ballot.

Therefore, it's only natural to assume he will be the top GOP choice.
 
2014-03-24 05:06:03 PM

Heron: Witty_Retort: bdub77: I honestly can't tell if Christie was involved, but at best he has bad judgement in appointments at the very top of his administration, and at worst he's a criminal.

From some of the reporting Maddow has done, it seems Christie operates like a mob boss. Nobody talks directly to him. Everything goes through of his two lawyers, and they decide whether or not to tell him. That way, he can legally say he didn't know nuthin' `bout nuthin'.

That is why he didn't ask Kelley what she meant with 'Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee.'

\The misappropriation of Sandy funds is what will ultimately do him in.
\\Maybe.

Considering the persistent rumors in New Jersey that he is mobbed up, that wouldn't be surprising in the least.


New Jersey politician.
Sicilian.
Yep, he's probably connected to organized crime.
 
2014-03-25 11:18:52 AM

Witty_Retort: s2s2s2: SHhhhhh. Investigation is ongoing. Hold your breath. Any day now.

Yeah, they'll all look so stupid when that traffic study is released.


The one where we determine how a scandal can affect people's fantasies about two people who aren't running for president?
 
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